Re: Lost Emails and need HELP!!!
Danny Kile wrote: OK, upgraded about 10 days ago to SM 2.24 and all is well. Until yesterday when I noticed in my Netscape.net email account I had a couple of folders missing. This is an IMAP account and the folders lets call them Folder1 and Folder2. Folder1 is in the roof of the account and folder2 is a sub-folder of folder1. Folder2 was the first to go, at this time I did a get mail and then folder1 went missing. I then went to the browser for a check of the account via web mail. Folder2 was now missing and Folder2 is still there. I would like to get them both back in SM, however, since Folder2 is not the even in web mail I assume it is gone for good. However, why does Folder1 not show in SM anymore. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Danny Well I guess no one has any ideas about this. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost Emails and need HELP!!!
On 03/02/2014 06:03 PM, Danny Kile wrote: Danny Kile wrote: OK, upgraded about 10 days ago to SM 2.24 and all is well. Until yesterday when I noticed in my Netscape.net email account I had a couple of folders missing. This is an IMAP account and the folders lets call them Folder1 and Folder2. Folder1 is in the roof of the account and folder2 is a sub-folder of folder1. Folder2 was the first to go, at this time I did a get mail and then folder1 went missing. I then went to the browser for a check of the account via web mail. Folder2 was now missing and Folder2 is still there. I would like to get them both back in SM, however, since Folder2 is not the even in web mail I assume it is gone for good. However, why does Folder1 not show in SM anymore. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Danny Well I guess no one has any ideas about this. Not a clue here. I don't have any IMAP accounts, Netscape account, or nest folders. I'm a bit baffled by your statement. I then went to the browser for a check of the account via web mail. Folder2 was now missing and Folder2 is still there. I would like to get them both back in SM, however, since Folder2 is not the even in web mail I assume it is gone for good. So how can Folder2 both be missing and there. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost Emails and need HELP!!!
WaltS wrote: On 03/02/2014 06:03 PM, Danny Kile wrote: Danny Kile wrote: OK, upgraded about 10 days ago to SM 2.24 and all is well. Until yesterday when I noticed in my Netscape.net email account I had a couple of folders missing. This is an IMAP account and the folders lets call them Folder1 and Folder2. Folder1 is in the roof of the account and folder2 is a sub-folder of folder1. Folder2 was the first to go, at this time I did a get mail and then folder1 went missing. I then went to the browser for a check of the account via web mail. Folder2 was now missing and Folder2 is still there. I would like to get them both back in SM, however, since Folder2 is not the even in web mail I assume it is gone for good. However, why does Folder1 not show in SM anymore. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Danny Well I guess no one has any ideas about this. Not a clue here. I don't have any IMAP accounts, Netscape account, or nest folders. I'm a bit baffled by your statement. I then went to the browser for a check of the account via web mail. Folder2 was now missing and Folder2 is still there. I would like to get them both back in SM, however, since Folder2 is not the even in web mail I assume it is gone for good. So how can Folder2 both be missing and there. Should have read: Folder1 was now missing and Folder2 is still there. Danny, ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost Emails and need HELP!!!
WaltS wrote: On 03/02/2014 06:03 PM, Danny Kile wrote: Danny Kile wrote: OK, upgraded about 10 days ago to SM 2.24 and all is well. Until yesterday when I noticed in my Netscape.net email account I had a couple of folders missing. This is an IMAP account and the folders lets call them Folder1 and Folder2. Folder1 is in the roof of the account and folder2 is a sub-folder of folder1. Folder2 was the first to go, at this time I did a get mail and then folder1 went missing. I then went to the browser for a check of the account via web mail. Folder2 was now missing and Folder2 is still there. I would like to get them both back in SM, however, since Folder2 is not the even in web mail I assume it is gone for good. However, why does Folder1 not show in SM anymore. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Danny Well I guess no one has any ideas about this. Not a clue here. I don't have any IMAP accounts, Netscape account, or nest folders. I'm a bit baffled by your statement. I then went to the browser for a check of the account via web mail. Folder2 was now missing and Folder2 is still there. I would like to get them both back in SM, however, since Folder2 is not the even in web mail I assume it is gone for good. So how can Folder2 both be missing and there. Should have read: Folder2 was now missing and Folder1 is still there. Thank you, Danny ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost Emails and need HELP!!!
On 3/03/2014 1:01 PM, Danny Kile wrote: WaltS wrote: On 03/02/2014 06:03 PM, Danny Kile wrote: Danny Kile wrote: OK, upgraded about 10 days ago to SM 2.24 and all is well. Until yesterday when I noticed in my Netscape.net email account I had a couple of folders missing. This is an IMAP account and the folders lets call them Folder1 and Folder2. Folder1 is in the roof of the account and folder2 is a sub-folder of folder1. Folder2 was the first to go, at this time I did a get mail and then folder1 went missing. I then went to the browser for a check of the account via web mail. Folder2 was now missing and Folder2 is still there. I would like to get them both back in SM, however, since Folder2 is not the even in web mail I assume it is gone for good. However, why does Folder1 not show in SM anymore. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Danny Well I guess no one has any ideas about this. Not a clue here. I don't have any IMAP accounts, Netscape account, or nest folders. I'm a bit baffled by your statement. I then went to the browser for a check of the account via web mail. Folder2 was now missing and Folder2 is still there. I would like to get them both back in SM, however, since Folder2 is not the even in web mail I assume it is gone for good. So how can Folder2 both be missing and there. Should have read: Folder1 was now missing and Folder2 is still there. Danny, But you typed folder2 is a sub-folder of folder1 so if the root folder1 is now missing that should also have taken out folder2!! -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:28.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/28.0 SeaMonkey/2.25 Build identifier: 20140211200211 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:28.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.25 Build identifier: 20140211195952 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost Emails and need HELP!!!
On 3/03/2014 3:55 PM, Daniel wrote: On 3/03/2014 1:01 PM, Danny Kile wrote: WaltS wrote: On 03/02/2014 06:03 PM, Danny Kile wrote: Danny Kile wrote: OK, upgraded about 10 days ago to SM 2.24 and all is well. Until yesterday when I noticed in my Netscape.net email account I had a couple of folders missing. This is an IMAP account and the folders lets call them Folder1 and Folder2. Folder1 is in the roof of the account and folder2 is a sub-folder of folder1. Folder2 was the first to go, at this time I did a get mail and then folder1 went missing. I then went to the browser for a check of the account via web mail. Folder2 was now missing and Folder2 is still there. I would like to get them both back in SM, however, since Folder2 is not the even in web mail I assume it is gone for good. However, why does Folder1 not show in SM anymore. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Danny Well I guess no one has any ideas about this. Not a clue here. I don't have any IMAP accounts, Netscape account, or nest folders. I'm a bit baffled by your statement. I then went to the browser for a check of the account via web mail. Folder2 was now missing and Folder2 is still there. I would like to get them both back in SM, however, since Folder2 is not the even in web mail I assume it is gone for good. So how can Folder2 both be missing and there. Should have read: Folder1 was now missing and Folder2 is still there. Danny, But you typed folder2 is a sub-folder of folder1 so if the root folder1 is now missing that should also have taken out folder2!! O.K., so I read your other reply, *after* I'd posted this ... of course!! -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:28.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/28.0 SeaMonkey/2.25 Build identifier: 20140211200211 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:28.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.25 Build identifier: 20140211195952 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Lost Emails and need HELP!!!
OK, upgraded about 10 days ago to SM 2.24 and all is well. Until yesterday when I noticed in my Netscape.net email account I had a couple of folders missing. This is an IMAP account and the folders lets call them Folder1 and Folder2. Folder1 is in the roof of the account and folder2 is a sub-folder of folder1. Folder2 was the first to go, at this time I did a get mail and then folder1 went missing. I then went to the browser for a check of the account via web mail. Folder2 was now missing and Folder2 is still there. I would like to get them both back in SM, however, since Folder2 is not the even in web mail I assume it is gone for good. However, why does Folder1 not show in SM anymore. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Danny ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost emails
Dear all, Thank you for your help in trying to recover my emails. I am afraid I was unable to recover them, however, I did find a backup of 3 months ago..which is better than nothing I guess so I will work with that. Thanks and I will sign off the list now. Happy Holiday Season and a Merry Christmas to all of you who celebrate Christmas. Happy New Year to the ones who go by the Jan 1 calendar and to the rest, all the best. Gita On Dec 11, 2013, at 12:04 AM, Trane Francks wrote: On 12/11/13 8:00 AM +0900, Trane Francks wrote: On 12/11/13 7:46 AM +0900, Trane Francks wrote: On 12/10/13 11:49 AM +0900, Geoff Welsh wrote: Trane Francks wrote: On 12/9/13 5:39 PM +0900, Gita Diem wrote: At the prompting of the Seamonkey Project, I downloaded the new version 2.22.1 to my Mac OS X 10.5.8. I previously used 1.1.13 version. Now I have lost all emails, address book etc. How can I retrieve this? Thanks. As far as I understand it, the upgrade path from v1.x would be to install v2.0 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.0 and after that, upgrade to the latest version. So, download 2.0, trash your 2.22.1, delete ~/Library/Application Support/SeaMonkey/, install 2.0 and then see whether your mail is back. If not, restore your profile in ~/Library/Application Support/ from backup and try again. From memory, the old 1.x branch stored its profile in ~/Library/Application Support/Mozilla whereas the newer releases migrated the profile into ~/Library/Application Support/ SeaMonkey. The latest releases to not do the migration directly, which is why installing 2.0 is required. Best of luck with it. trane It's just ~/Library/Mozilla on the old 1.x stuff but he'll have an additional problem in that you need OS X 10.6 to run SM 2.14 or higher; http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.14/ GW Excellent point! I'd completely forgotten about Leopard support being discontinued. That's make 2.13.1 the latest supported release for Gita. http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.13.1 So, Gita, if you're still with us: Follow the same original upgrade path as spelled out before, but with a minor change: 1. Delete your ~/Library/Application Support/SeaMonkey folder; 2. Install SM 2.0 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.0; 3. Let it migrate your profile (your mail should be in place already); 4. Open preferences and disable automatic checking of SM updates; 5. Install SM 2.13.1 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.13.1 . Let us know how it goes. Oh, and get Time Machine happening already. ;-) On second thought, re: 1 - RENAME your SeaMonkey folder rather than delete it. As you've received new mail, maybe somebody can help you through the process of recovering the new mail you've already downloaded into SM 2.x -- / // Trane Franckstr...@gol.comTokyo, Japan // Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost emails
Ray Davison wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: If you are looking for lost mail search for the file INBOX. You could search for any file in the mail sub-directory, but that one is easy to remember and is rather unique. True. But having found it, what is the OP supposed to do? You didn't say. See below. With Mozilla products you never need to kill or deinstall anything. You can have as many versions of the apps and profiles as you have room on the HDD; and use each of them as you chose. True in principle. But do I want my email history scattered over half-a-dozen profiles? I think not. One of the features of SM I really like is that everything I've ever sent or received since the late 1990s is in one place. Intact. I agree completely. See if the following is something you could live with. I probably could, but it seems unnecessarily complicated, so why would I want to? My mail files began life in Netscape, under OS/2. Then I added Win9X to the machine. And since then the OSs and Mozilla apps have evolved. I do not get rid of an OS or Mozilla app until I no longer want it. So every machine has had since the beginning, at a minimum, two OS/2-eCS, two Win, and two Mozilla or SM suite. In the beginning I had multiples of DOS but now only have freeDOS. TB and FF is what we got when they split the Mozilla suite. The suite continued as SM which was the internal name of the development product. Once I had such a problem with SM that I sorta glued TB and FF back together by having TB run FF and pass a URL that I clicked in TB. But that got fixed and I am back to SM. Both software and hardware have changed often in the last decade and a half. I am now running a mix of W2K, WXP and W7, I skipped Vista. I recently got a laptop with W8. I looked at it, and scrubbed the HDD and formatted it for W7. But that one set of original mail files is all I have ever used. They have served Netscape, Mozilla suite, SM and TB, have gone from machine to machine, under various versions of two OSs, and many versions of the apps, and to my laptop when I go on the road, and back to the desktop when I return. The set has grown a bit. My primary account now has 184 files/folders. I have six other accounts plus a few that that are other people's that I setup/monitor. If I add a new version of SM/TB/FF I need only create a shortcut for it. If I add an OS I need to create a shortcut for each app. No part of Mozilla moves. That is because I have divided the world into OSs, apps, and data. Profiles and mail are data. And mail/news are not part of the profile; that just happens to be where the default install dumps them. I have the apps on an apps partition, and profiles and mail/news on a data partition. Profiles and mail/news are in separate trees. The profile does not contain the mail/news, it points the app to it's location. That is the overview. Anyone interested in how? -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost emails
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: If you are looking for lost mail search for the file INBOX. You could search for any file in the mail sub-directory, but that one is easy to remember and is rather unique. True. But having found it, what is the OP supposed to do? You didn't say. See below. With Mozilla products you never need to kill or deinstall anything. You can have as many versions of the apps and profiles as you have room on the HDD; and use each of them as you chose. True in principle. But do I want my email history scattered over half-a-dozen profiles? I think not. One of the features of SM I really like is that everything I've ever sent or received since the late 1990s is in one place. Intact. I agree completely. See if the following is something you could live with. My mail files began life in Netscape, under OS/2. Then I added Win9X to the machine. And since then the OSs and Mozilla apps have evolved. I do not get rid of an OS or Mozilla app until I no longer want it. So every machine has had since the beginning, at a minimum, two OS/2-eCS, two Win, and two Mozilla or SM suite. In the beginning I had multiples of DOS but now only have freeDOS. TB and FF is what we got when they split the Mozilla suite. The suite continued as SM which was the internal name of the development product. Once I had such a problem with SM that I sorta glued TB and FF back together by having TB run FF and pass a URL that I clicked in TB. But that got fixed and I am back to SM. Both software and hardware have changed often in the last decade and a half. I am now running a mix of W2K, WXP and W7, I skipped Vista. I recently got a laptop with W8. I looked at it, and scrubbed the HDD and formatted it for W7. But that one set of original mail files is all I have ever used. They have served Netscape, Mozilla suite, SM and TB, have gone from machine to machine, under various versions of two OSs, and many versions of the apps, and to my laptop when I go on the road, and back to the desktop when I return. The set has grown a bit. My primary account now has 184 files/folders. I have six other accounts plus a few that that are other people's that I setup/monitor. If I add a new version of SM/TB/FF I need only create a shortcut for it. If I add an OS I need to create a shortcut for each app. No part of Mozilla moves. That is because I have divided the world into OSs, apps, and data. Profiles and mail are data. And mail/news are not part of the profile; that just happens to be where the default install dumps them. I have the apps on an apps partition, and profiles and mail/news on a data partition. Profiles and mail/news are in separate trees. The profile does not contain the mail/news, it points the app to it's location. That is the overview. Anyone interested in how? Ray ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost emails
On 12/10/13 5:25 AM +0900, W3BNR wrote: On 12/9/2013 2:17 PM Ed Mullen submitted the following: Ray Davison wrote: Gita Diem wrote: Now I have lost all emails, address book etc. How can I retrieve this? Search for INBOX. Broken record rant alert!!! On average this subject comes up about once a week. If you get the mail out of the profile, and put it somewhere you want it, you won't lose it. Ray And first and foremost do daily backups of your entire profile. Which is easily done with MozBackup. Available at: http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ On a Mac, as the OP is, one uses Time Machine. -- / // Trane Franckstr...@gol.comTokyo, Japan // Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost emails
On 12/10/13 11:49 AM +0900, Geoff Welsh wrote: Trane Francks wrote: On 12/9/13 5:39 PM +0900, Gita Diem wrote: At the prompting of the Seamonkey Project, I downloaded the new version 2.22.1 to my Mac OS X 10.5.8. I previously used 1.1.13 version. Now I have lost all emails, address book etc. How can I retrieve this? Thanks. As far as I understand it, the upgrade path from v1.x would be to install v2.0 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.0 and after that, upgrade to the latest version. So, download 2.0, trash your 2.22.1, delete ~/Library/Application Support/SeaMonkey/, install 2.0 and then see whether your mail is back. If not, restore your profile in ~/Library/Application Support/ from backup and try again. From memory, the old 1.x branch stored its profile in ~/Library/Application Support/Mozilla whereas the newer releases migrated the profile into ~/Library/Application Support/SeaMonkey. The latest releases to not do the migration directly, which is why installing 2.0 is required. Best of luck with it. trane It's just ~/Library/Mozilla on the old 1.x stuff but he'll have an additional problem in that you need OS X 10.6 to run SM 2.14 or higher; http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.14/ GW Excellent point! I'd completely forgotten about Leopard support being discontinued. That's make 2.13.1 the latest supported release for Gita. http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.13.1 -- / // Trane Franckstr...@gol.comTokyo, Japan // Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost emails
On 12/11/13 7:46 AM +0900, Trane Francks wrote: On 12/10/13 11:49 AM +0900, Geoff Welsh wrote: Trane Francks wrote: On 12/9/13 5:39 PM +0900, Gita Diem wrote: At the prompting of the Seamonkey Project, I downloaded the new version 2.22.1 to my Mac OS X 10.5.8. I previously used 1.1.13 version. Now I have lost all emails, address book etc. How can I retrieve this? Thanks. As far as I understand it, the upgrade path from v1.x would be to install v2.0 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.0 and after that, upgrade to the latest version. So, download 2.0, trash your 2.22.1, delete ~/Library/Application Support/SeaMonkey/, install 2.0 and then see whether your mail is back. If not, restore your profile in ~/Library/Application Support/ from backup and try again. From memory, the old 1.x branch stored its profile in ~/Library/Application Support/Mozilla whereas the newer releases migrated the profile into ~/Library/Application Support/SeaMonkey. The latest releases to not do the migration directly, which is why installing 2.0 is required. Best of luck with it. trane It's just ~/Library/Mozilla on the old 1.x stuff but he'll have an additional problem in that you need OS X 10.6 to run SM 2.14 or higher; http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.14/ GW Excellent point! I'd completely forgotten about Leopard support being discontinued. That's make 2.13.1 the latest supported release for Gita. http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.13.1 So, Gita, if you're still with us: Follow the same original upgrade path as spelled out before, but with a minor change: 1. Delete your ~/Library/Application Support/SeaMonkey folder; 2. Install SM 2.0 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.0; 3. Let it migrate your profile (your mail should be in place already); 4. Open preferences and disable automatic checking of SM updates; 5. Install SM 2.13.1 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.13.1. Let us know how it goes. Oh, and get Time Machine happening already. ;-) -- / // Trane Franckstr...@gol.comTokyo, Japan // Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost emails
On 12/11/13 8:00 AM +0900, Trane Francks wrote: On 12/11/13 7:46 AM +0900, Trane Francks wrote: On 12/10/13 11:49 AM +0900, Geoff Welsh wrote: Trane Francks wrote: On 12/9/13 5:39 PM +0900, Gita Diem wrote: At the prompting of the Seamonkey Project, I downloaded the new version 2.22.1 to my Mac OS X 10.5.8. I previously used 1.1.13 version. Now I have lost all emails, address book etc. How can I retrieve this? Thanks. As far as I understand it, the upgrade path from v1.x would be to install v2.0 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.0 and after that, upgrade to the latest version. So, download 2.0, trash your 2.22.1, delete ~/Library/Application Support/SeaMonkey/, install 2.0 and then see whether your mail is back. If not, restore your profile in ~/Library/Application Support/ from backup and try again. From memory, the old 1.x branch stored its profile in ~/Library/Application Support/Mozilla whereas the newer releases migrated the profile into ~/Library/Application Support/SeaMonkey. The latest releases to not do the migration directly, which is why installing 2.0 is required. Best of luck with it. trane It's just ~/Library/Mozilla on the old 1.x stuff but he'll have an additional problem in that you need OS X 10.6 to run SM 2.14 or higher; http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.14/ GW Excellent point! I'd completely forgotten about Leopard support being discontinued. That's make 2.13.1 the latest supported release for Gita. http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.13.1 So, Gita, if you're still with us: Follow the same original upgrade path as spelled out before, but with a minor change: 1. Delete your ~/Library/Application Support/SeaMonkey folder; 2. Install SM 2.0 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.0; 3. Let it migrate your profile (your mail should be in place already); 4. Open preferences and disable automatic checking of SM updates; 5. Install SM 2.13.1 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.13.1. Let us know how it goes. Oh, and get Time Machine happening already. ;-) On second thought, re: 1 - RENAME your SeaMonkey folder rather than delete it. As you've received new mail, maybe somebody can help you through the process of recovering the new mail you've already downloaded into SM 2.x -- / // Trane Franckstr...@gol.comTokyo, Japan // Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Lost emails
At the prompting of the Seamonkey Project, I downloaded the new version 2.22.1 to my Mac OS X 10.5.8. I previously used 1.1.13 version. Now I have lost all emails, address book etc. How can I retrieve this? Thanks. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost emails
On 12/9/13 5:39 PM +0900, Gita Diem wrote: At the prompting of the Seamonkey Project, I downloaded the new version 2.22.1 to my Mac OS X 10.5.8. I previously used 1.1.13 version. Now I have lost all emails, address book etc. How can I retrieve this? Thanks. As far as I understand it, the upgrade path from v1.x would be to install v2.0 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.0 and after that, upgrade to the latest version. So, download 2.0, trash your 2.22.1, delete ~/Library/Application Support/SeaMonkey/, install 2.0 and then see whether your mail is back. If not, restore your profile in ~/Library/Application Support/ from backup and try again. From memory, the old 1.x branch stored its profile in ~/Library/Application Support/Mozilla whereas the newer releases migrated the profile into ~/Library/Application Support/SeaMonkey. The latest releases to not do the migration directly, which is why installing 2.0 is required. Best of luck with it. trane -- / // Trane Franckstr...@gol.comTokyo, Japan // Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost emails
Gita Diem wrote: Now I have lost all emails, address book etc. How can I retrieve this? Search for INBOX. Broken record rant alert!!! On average this subject comes up about once a week. If you get the mail out of the profile, and put it somewhere you want it, you won't lose it. Ray ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost emails
Ray Davison wrote: Gita Diem wrote: Now I have lost all emails, address book etc. How can I retrieve this? Search for INBOX. Broken record rant alert!!! On average this subject comes up about once a week. If you get the mail out of the profile, and put it somewhere you want it, you won't lose it. Ray And first and foremost do daily backups of your entire profile. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ A Clean House Is A Sign Of A Misspent Life ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost emails
On 12/9/2013 2:17 PM Ed Mullen submitted the following: Ray Davison wrote: Gita Diem wrote: Now I have lost all emails, address book etc. How can I retrieve this? Search for INBOX. Broken record rant alert!!! On average this subject comes up about once a week. If you get the mail out of the profile, and put it somewhere you want it, you won't lose it. Ray And first and foremost do daily backups of your entire profile. Which is easily done with MozBackup. Available at: http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ -- Ed, W3BNR Live every day as though it was your last day on earth, and one day you'll be right. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost emails
W3BNR wrote: On 12/9/2013 2:17 PM Ed Mullen submitted the following: Ray Davison wrote: Gita Diem wrote: Now I have lost all emails, address book etc. How can I retrieve this? Search for INBOX. Broken record rant alert!!! On average this subject comes up about once a week. If you get the mail out of the profile, and put it somewhere you want it, you won't lose it. Ray And first and foremost do daily backups of your entire profile. Which is easily done with MozBackup. Available at: http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ Or with any reliable disk backup utility. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost emails
Ray Davison wrote: Gita Diem wrote: Now I have lost all emails, address book etc. How can I retrieve this? Search for INBOX. Not a complete set of directions. Better refer to Trane Francks' reply in this thread. As long as v. 2.0 finds and imports your old profile, you'll be fine. If not, you may have to go into the profile manager and import it by pointing it out to the program. Here, again, refer to Trane Francks' reply for guidance on where to look. Once you've done that, upgrading within v. 2.x should go smoothly. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost emails
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: W3BNR wrote: On 12/9/2013 2:17 PM Ed Mullen submitted the following: Ray Davison wrote: Gita Diem wrote: Now I have lost all emails, address book etc. How can I retrieve this? Search for INBOX. Broken record rant alert!!! On average this subject comes up about once a week. If you get the mail out of the profile, and put it somewhere you want it, you won't lose it. Ray And first and foremost do daily backups of your entire profile. Which is easily done with MozBackup. Available at: http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ Or with any reliable disk backup utility. Or just copy the profile folder to a removable drive. -- You either teach people to treat you with dignity and respect, or you don't. This means you are partly responsible for the mistreatment that you get at the hands of someone else. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost emails
On 12/9/2013 4:49 PM, JAS wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: W3BNR wrote: On 12/9/2013 2:17 PM Ed Mullen submitted the following: Ray Davison wrote: Gita Diem wrote: Now I have lost all emails, address book etc. How can I retrieve this? Search for INBOX. Broken record rant alert!!! On average this subject comes up about once a week. If you get the mail out of the profile, and put it somewhere you want it, you won't lose it. Ray And first and foremost do daily backups of your entire profile. Which is easily done with MozBackup. Available at: http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ Or with any reliable disk backup utility. Or just copy the profile folder to a removable drive. I'm a big fan of Second Copy. I pick the directories and folders, and when and copy them to another computer drive on the network. Works great in the background without my input so I don't have to remember to start a backup. http://www.secondcopy.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost emails
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ray Davison wrote: Gita Diem wrote: Now I have lost all emails, address book etc. How can I retrieve this? Search for INBOX. Not a complete set of directions. Better refer to Trane Francks' reply in this thread. If you insist on automatic upgrades, you just might get a new profile, and that may or may not have destroyed the previous profile. If you are looking for lost mail search for the file INBOX. You could search for any file in the mail sub-directory, but that one is easy to remember and is rather unique. Here are some things that may effect your philosophy regarding Mozilla. With Mozilla products you never need to kill or deinstall anything. You can have as many versions of the apps and profiles as you have room on the HDD; and use each of them as you chose. On this machine I currently have a total of twelve SM/TB/FF profiles, and a total of fifteen SM/TB/FF apps, counting both OS/2 and Win versions. OS/2 and Win use the same profile files. I once had twenty SM when I was looking for the date/time of a bug creation. I never upgrade a Mozilla app. That destroys the previous and you might not want or be able to use the new one. The new version gets a new tree, and I only delete the older when I decide I don't want it any more. Ray ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost emails
hawker wrote: And first and foremost do daily backups of your entire profile. Which is easily done with MozBackup. Available at: http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ Or with any reliable disk backup utility. Or just copy the profile folder to a removable drive. I'm a big fan of Second Copy. If you get a decent file manager you can save and modify Mozilla and do a lot more - like dealing with compressed files - and you only need learn one utility. This one is great. http://www.efsoftware.com/cw/e.htm Ray ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost emails
On 12/9/2013 4:49 PM JAS submitted the following: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: W3BNR wrote: On 12/9/2013 2:17 PM Ed Mullen submitted the following: Ray Davison wrote: Gita Diem wrote: Now I have lost all emails, address book etc. How can I retrieve this? Search for INBOX. Broken record rant alert!!! On average this subject comes up about once a week. If you get the mail out of the profile, and put it somewhere you want it, you won't lose it. Ray And first and foremost do daily backups of your entire profile. Which is easily done with MozBackup. Available at: http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ Or with any reliable disk backup utility. Or just copy the profile folder to a removable drive. True, but since I keep all SM stuff in its default directory (except for cache files) MozBackup creates one nice file which I can put on my thumb drive - take it to my Linux laptop and transfer just what I want by using it's check boxes. I might want to only update the bookmark file. Done in less than a minute. Very little chance of operator error. -- Ed, W3BNR Everyone has a photographic memory. Some just don't have film. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost emails
Ray Davison wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ray Davison wrote: Gita Diem wrote: Now I have lost all emails, address book etc. How can I retrieve this? Search for INBOX. Not a complete set of directions. Better refer to Trane Francks' reply in this thread. If you insist on automatic upgrades, ... I don't, and that's not what the OP described... you just might get a new profile, and that may or may not have destroyed the previous profile. The most likely scenario here is that SM 2.21 didn't recognize and import the old SM 1.13 profile. Since they are stored in different locations, it's highly UNlikely that the old profile was affected at all. If you are looking for lost mail search for the file INBOX. You could search for any file in the mail sub-directory, but that one is easy to remember and is rather unique. True. But having found it, what is the OP supposed to do? You didn't say. Here are some things that may [a]ffect your philosophy regarding Mozilla. With Mozilla products you never need to kill or deinstall anything. You can have as many versions of the apps and profiles as you have room on the HDD; and use each of them as you chose. True in principle. But do I want my email history scattered over half-a-dozen profiles? I think not. One of the features of SM I really like is that everything I've ever sent or received since the late 1990s is in one place. Intact. On this machine I currently have a total of twelve SM/TB/FF profiles, and a total of fifteen SM/TB/FF apps, counting both OS/2 and Win versions. OS/2 and Win use the same profile files. I once had twenty SM when I was looking for the date/time of a bug creation. I never upgrade a Mozilla app. That destroys the previous and you might not want or be able to use the new one. The new version gets a new tree, and I only delete the older when I decide I don't want it any more. That's fine if you're a beta tester. If you live out here in the real world, not so much. If you're advising users to be really careful protecting their files, then you might advise them to import their old profiles to a new location when installing the new version, and having successfully tested them, discard the old ones. But that's a lot more trouble than most people want to go to. A much simpler way to go is to shut SM down before a backup, run the backup, upgrade SM, and see if it worked. If all is well, no problem. If there's a problem, restore the profile from the backup and again no problem. At most, you lose a couple of emails that came or went during testing. The key is to have a backup, which is good computing practice anyway. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost emails
Trane Francks wrote: On 12/9/13 5:39 PM +0900, Gita Diem wrote: At the prompting of the Seamonkey Project, I downloaded the new version 2.22.1 to my Mac OS X 10.5.8. I previously used 1.1.13 version. Now I have lost all emails, address book etc. How can I retrieve this? Thanks. As far as I understand it, the upgrade path from v1.x would be to install v2.0 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.0 and after that, upgrade to the latest version. So, download 2.0, trash your 2.22.1, delete ~/Library/Application Support/SeaMonkey/, install 2.0 and then see whether your mail is back. If not, restore your profile in ~/Library/Application Support/ from backup and try again. From memory, the old 1.x branch stored its profile in ~/Library/Application Support/Mozilla whereas the newer releases migrated the profile into ~/Library/Application Support/SeaMonkey. The latest releases to not do the migration directly, which is why installing 2.0 is required. Best of luck with it. trane It's just ~/Library/Mozilla on the old 1.x stuff but he'll have an additional problem in that you need OS X 10.6 to run SM 2.14 or higher; http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.14/ GW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Restoring Lost Emails - permanently
TMitchell wrote: My last attempt to update messed up (it's the first time this happened) and I ended up losing (the files are still in the old Profile, The permanent fix for lost mail files is to get them out of the profile and stored in a neutral location. My mail files started life in Netscape. I have been using the same files in every version of NS, Mozilla suite, SM and TB, cross platform, and multiple profiles, alternately between all those. Ray ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Restoring Lost Emails
Hartmut Figge wrote: Daniel: and, of course, Hartmut meant you should do similar name changing and moving to your new profile, the sent file and any other files in the old profile (i.e. drafts, maybe) Ehm, yes. With the exception, that i would not 'move' but 'copy', just in case. ;) Hartmut Sarcasm mode on Gee whiz, Hartmut, I'm guessing your one of those people that keeps back-ups as well!! Sarcasm mode off Good pick! -- Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and yours, and may 2012 be better than 2011. Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Restoring Lost Emails
Daniel: Hartmut Figge wrote: Ehm, yes. With the exception, that i would not 'move' but 'copy', just in case. ;) Sarcasm mode on Gee whiz, Hartmut, I'm guessing your one of those people that keeps back-ups as well!! Sarcasm mode off Being lazy, backups are a great help to be able to. :-D Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Restoring Lost Emails
Hartmut Figge wrote: TMitchell: My last attempt to update messed up (it's the first time this happened) and I ended up losing (the files are still in the old Profile, but Seamonkey couldn't access them)all my emails, newsgroups, etc., so I ran an old system backup, but now need to get those more-recent (pre-crash) email messages back into my active inbox. Can I just copy them over from the intact, most recent (pre-crash) profile folder into the active profile folder overwriting the existing older emails, and, if so, which files? I note, for example, there is a large file called inbox and a smaller one called inbox.msf; Do I copy them both? Your old mails are in the Inbox of your old profile? Close SM and copy from your old profile the file with the name Inbox to a file with the name Inbox_old in your current profile. The target directory should the one which holds your current Inbox. On the next start of SM you will have not only your Inbox, but also a new folder with the name Inbox_old containing your old mails. Now you can copy or move the mails as normal. Hartmut and, of course, Hartmut meant you should do similar name changing and moving to your new profile, the sent file and any other files in the old profile (i.e. drafts, maybe) Do not bother renaming/moving the .msf files, they will be re-created as you need them. After you have done all the re-naming/moving, do a File-Empty Trash and a File-Compact Files to remove any rubbish in your profile. -- Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and yours, and may 2012 be better than 2011. Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Restoring Lost Emails
Daniel wrote: Hartmut Figge wrote: TMitchell: My last attempt to update messed up (it's the first time this happened) and I ended up losing (the files are still in the old Profile, but Seamonkey couldn't access them)all my emails, newsgroups, etc., so I ran an old system backup, but now need to get those more-recent (pre-crash) email messages back into my active inbox. Can I just copy them over from the intact, most recent (pre-crash) profile folder into the active profile folder overwriting the existing older emails, and, if so, which files? I note, for example, there is a large file called inbox and a smaller one called inbox.msf; Do I copy them both? Your old mails are in the Inbox of your old profile? Close SM and copy from your old profile the file with the name Inbox to a file with the name Inbox_old in your current profile. The target directory should the one which holds your current Inbox. On the next start of SM you will have not only your Inbox, but also a new folder with the name Inbox_old containing your old mails. Now you can copy or move the mails as normal. Hartmut and, of course, Hartmut meant you should do similar name changing and moving to your new profile, the sent file and any other files in the old profile (i.e. drafts, maybe) Do not bother renaming/moving the .msf files, they will be re-created as you need them. After you have done all the re-naming/moving, do a File-Empty Trash and a File-Compact Files to remove any rubbish in your profile. Thank you all. Your suggestions worked like a charm. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Restoring Lost Emails
Daniel: and, of course, Hartmut meant you should do similar name changing and moving to your new profile, the sent file and any other files in the old profile (i.e. drafts, maybe) Ehm, yes. With the exception, that i would not 'move' but 'copy', just in case. ;) Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Restoring Lost Emails
My last attempt to update messed up (it's the first time this happened) and I ended up losing (the files are still in the old Profile, but Seamonkey couldn't access them)all my emails, newsgroups, etc., so I ran an old system backup, but now need to get those more-recent (pre-crash) email messages back into my active inbox. Can I just copy them over from the intact, most recent (pre-crash) profile folder into the active profile folder overwriting the existing older emails, and, if so, which files? I note, for example, there is a large file called inbox and a smaller one called inbox.msf; Do I copy them both? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Restoring Lost Emails
TMitchell: My last attempt to update messed up (it's the first time this happened) and I ended up losing (the files are still in the old Profile, but Seamonkey couldn't access them)all my emails, newsgroups, etc., so I ran an old system backup, but now need to get those more-recent (pre-crash) email messages back into my active inbox. Can I just copy them over from the intact, most recent (pre-crash) profile folder into the active profile folder overwriting the existing older emails, and, if so, which files? I note, for example, there is a large file called inbox and a smaller one called inbox.msf; Do I copy them both? Your old mails are in the Inbox of your old profile? Close SM and copy from your old profile the file with the name Inbox to a file with the name Inbox_old in your current profile. The target directory should the one which holds your current Inbox. On the next start of SM you will have not only your Inbox, but also a new folder with the name Inbox_old containing your old mails. Now you can copy or move the mails as normal. Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
