Re: More on unexplained SM 'hangs'?

2011-10-31 Thread Rickles

Rickles wrote:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110928 Firefox/7.0.1
SeaMonkey/2.4.1.

Others have complained about SM appearing to hang, or at least take a
ridiculously long time to do something as simple as delete an email. I'd
never seen it before, until today.

Normally the PC's been on most of the day while I've been at work, but
today the house was empty all day  I was the first home. Turned PC on
and left it un-logged in for approx. an hour.

Logged in, waited for systray icons to all appear showing all 'run' apps
completed, and opened SM Mail. It opened, downloaded 3 short text
messages. The wife read one message over my shoulder, said that message
could be deleted. So I did, or thought so, anyway.

Pressed delete key but message stayed in Inbox. Checked Deleted folder,
empty. Went back to Inbox, but only Folder pane showed any
content--thread  message panes were both blank. Assumed some background
process was taking up processor time, but Task Manager showed 99% system
idle time, and there was no network traffic.

No background CPU takeover, no scheduled tasks running, no busy network.
I left it ticking over for a full 5 minutes without change, then closed
the SM Mail window (browser never open). Verified seamonkey.exe process
was absent from Task Manager and re-opened Mail--deleted same message
again and it worked perfectly, and for everything after that.

Suggestions?
A new wrinkle: just finished deleting a collection of emails from my 
Inbox, which had been held onto for various reasons.  Didn't keep track 
of quantity or overall size, but only 2 had attachments of any size.


Since browser window wasn't open at this point, I opened it to look for 
something, and instead of my home group (4 tabs), I got one single blank 
tab with no address to load from.


Killed the browser, killed email, then had to kill 'seamonkey.exe' 
process in Task Mgr.  Then re-opened browser and all is normal.  Same 
after opening Mail window as well.


Can something between the Mail component be playing tug-of-war with the 
browser component, esp. since the takeup of the SQLITE database storage 
for some aspects of profile?

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Re: More on unexplained SM 'hangs'?

2011-10-28 Thread Rickles

Pete wrote:

Unfortunately, it still does it for me. I've tried this suggestion, and
the earlier one about deleting the trash.msf files, and neither seem to
have made any difference at all.


I've tried a few more things now, such as deleting my huge bookmarks
file, and severely reducing the number of newsgroups, and it now seems
that newsgroups may have some bearing on the problem, at least in my case.

I deleted most of my newsgroups, but with no noticeable difference. I
then went into the settings, and turned off check for new messages at
startup and Check for new messages every. The idea was to try to stop
SeaMonkey from doing anything with newsgroups without me needing to
actually delete everything, which I didn't want to do.

I noticed that the To recover disk space options were set to Don't
delete any messages. I changed this to Delete messages more than 14
days old and set the Remove bodies from messages more than also to 14
days.

Eureka - I can now use SeaMonkey again on this computer! It still hangs
sometimes, but nowhere near the literally four minutes out of every
five level that it did before.

This information, together with the previously posted information about
possible links to email and .MSF files, strongly suggests (to me,
anyway) where the problem lies. Seamonkey never used to behave like
this, so any background (hmm) cleanup routines that have changed in
recent versions are clearly suspects.

I'm sure those of us suffering this hanging problem would appreciate it
if some development time could go into nailing this bug.

Regards, Peter
Your point about the storage of old newsgroup messages is well-taken, 
even though the issue I had didn't appear to relate to NNTP traffic.  I 
have set my expiration dates to 30 days rather than 14, but none had 
been set prior to that.  We'll see.


I've also had a few instances of sending emails not completing as 
expected, but I'll post that separately as a new thread.  Related? Who 
knows.


Rick.
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Re: More on unexplained SM 'hangs'?

2011-10-28 Thread Michael Gordon

Rickles wrote:

Pete wrote:

Unfortunately, it still does it for me. I've tried this suggestion, and
the earlier one about deleting the trash.msf files, and neither seem to
have made any difference at all.


I've tried a few more things now, such as deleting my huge bookmarks
file, and severely reducing the number of newsgroups, and it now seems
that newsgroups may have some bearing on the problem, at least in my
case.

I deleted most of my newsgroups, but with no noticeable difference. I
then went into the settings, and turned off check for new messages at
startup and Check for new messages every. The idea was to try to stop
SeaMonkey from doing anything with newsgroups without me needing to
actually delete everything, which I didn't want to do.

I noticed that the To recover disk space options were set to Don't
delete any messages. I changed this to Delete messages more than 14
days old and set the Remove bodies from messages more than also to 14
days.

Eureka - I can now use SeaMonkey again on this computer! It still hangs
sometimes, but nowhere near the literally four minutes out of every
five level that it did before.

This information, together with the previously posted information about
possible links to email and .MSF files, strongly suggests (to me,
anyway) where the problem lies. Seamonkey never used to behave like
this, so any background (hmm) cleanup routines that have changed in
recent versions are clearly suspects.

I'm sure those of us suffering this hanging problem would appreciate it
if some development time could go into nailing this bug.

Regards, Peter

Your point about the storage of old newsgroup messages is well-taken,
even though the issue I had didn't appear to relate to NNTP traffic. I
have set my expiration dates to 30 days rather than 14, but none had
been set prior to that. We'll see.

I've also had a few instances of sending emails not completing as
expected, but I'll post that separately as a new thread. Related? Who
knows.

Rick.


One thing you will want to keep in mind with e-mail is when you delete a 
message, or send it to trash, or empty trash, is that you have not 
completely removed those messages.  You have only hidden them from view.


When you want to completely remove them from your system you need to 
Compact the folder.


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Re: More on unexplained SM 'hangs'?

2011-10-27 Thread Pete

Unfortunately, it still does it for me.  I've tried this suggestion, and
the earlier one about deleting the trash.msf files, and neither seem to
have made any difference at all.


I've tried a few more things now, such as deleting my huge bookmarks 
file, and severely reducing the number of newsgroups, and it now seems 
that newsgroups may have some bearing on the problem, at least in my case.


I deleted most of my newsgroups, but with no noticeable difference.  I 
then went into the settings, and turned off check for new messages at 
startup and Check for new messages every.  The idea was to try to 
stop SeaMonkey from doing anything with newsgroups without me needing to 
actually delete everything, which I didn't want to do.


I noticed that the To recover disk space options were set to Don't 
delete any messages.  I changed this to Delete messages more than 14 
days old and set the Remove bodies from messages more than also to 14 
days.


Eureka - I can now use SeaMonkey again on this computer!  It still hangs 
sometimes, but nowhere near the literally four minutes out of every 
five level that it did before.


This information, together with the previously posted information about 
possible links to email and .MSF files, strongly suggests (to me, 
anyway) where the problem lies.  Seamonkey never used to behave like 
this, so any background (hmm) cleanup routines that have changed in 
recent versions are clearly suspects.


I'm sure those of us suffering this hanging problem would appreciate it 
if some development time could go into nailing this bug.


Regards, Peter
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Re: More on unexplained SM 'hangs'?

2011-10-24 Thread Peter

This hang is caused by SM 'helpfully' calculating how much disk space
you would save if you compacted all your folders after you just deleted
something.

Go to Preferences  Mail  Newsgroups  Network  Storage
and untick Compact folders when it will save.
Then it won't do it any more.


Unfortunately, it still does it for me.  I've tried this suggestion, and 
the earlier one about deleting the trash.msf files, and neither seem to 
have made any difference at all.


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Re: More on unexplained SM 'hangs'?

2011-10-23 Thread Rickles

Errol Smith wrote:

This hang is caused by SM 'helpfully' calculating how much disk space
you would save if you compacted all your folders after you just deleted
something.

Go to Preferences  Mail  Newsgroups  Network  Storage
and untick Compact folders when it will save.
Then it won't do it any more.

And remember to manually compact your mail folders once in a while.

YMMV.

Rickles wrote:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110928 Firefox/7.0.1
SeaMonkey/2.4.1.

Others have complained about SM appearing to hang, or at least take a
ridiculously long time to do something as simple as delete an email. I'd
never seen it before, until today.

Normally the PC's been on most of the day while I've been at work, but
today the house was empty all day  I was the first home. Turned PC on
and left it un-logged in for approx. an hour.

Logged in, waited for systray icons to all appear showing all 'run' apps
completed, and opened SM Mail. It opened, downloaded 3 short text
messages. The wife read one message over my shoulder, said that message
could be deleted. So I did, or thought so, anyway.

Pressed delete key but message stayed in Inbox. Checked Deleted folder,
empty. Went back to Inbox, but only Folder pane showed any
content--thread  message panes were both blank. Assumed some background
process was taking up processor time, but Task Manager showed 99% system
idle time, and there was no network traffic.

No background CPU takeover, no scheduled tasks running, no busy network.
I left it ticking over for a full 5 minutes without change, then closed
the SM Mail window (browser never open). Verified seamonkey.exe process
was absent from Task Manager and re-opened Mail--deleted same message
again and it worked perfectly, and for everything after that.

Suggestions?


Forgive me for being obtuse, but what's the point of having that setting 
available when it 'freezes' SM into complete inaction?  If SM was tied 
up making the calculations at every Delete action, I'd expect to see 
system resources being used for it, but when SM freezes, the rest of the 
PC is normal.  If I'm not doing anything else with it, the PC resources 
show 99% idle.  If SM is busy with disc access and space calculations, 
where's the evidence?  As far as I can tell, SM is 'stuck' at this point.


If you read further along in the thread as posted, you'll see that once 
I threw out the Trash.msf file, everything has gone back to normal in 
all respects.  The only confusing part I ran into was that the 'Deleted' 
folder in the Folder Pane view of Mail doesn't point to a 'Deleted' file 
under the profile.  It points to a 'Trash' file, but there's nothing in 
the GUI to tell you that.  Process of elimination is all I had to find 
it out.  In all other cases, the name of a folder in the Folder Pane is 
the same as the file(s) on the hard drive where the profile is stored. 
But for 'Deleted' that's not the case.


Minor point, but it took a few extra minutes to work out.  My suggestion 
for anyone experiencing issues with SM mail freezing is to shut down SM 
and delete MSF files in their profile's Mail directory, then restart SM. 
 The MSF files are indexes which will be rebuilt when SM starts again.

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Re: More on unexplained SM 'hangs'?

2011-10-22 Thread Daniel

Rickles wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Rickles wrote:

Bob Fleischer wrote:

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

Rickles wrote:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110928 Firefox/7.0.1
SeaMonkey/2.4.1.

Others have complained about SM appearing to hang, or at least take a
ridiculously long time to do something as simple as delete an email.
I'd
never seen it before, until today.

Normally the PC's been on most of the day while I've been at work,
but
today the house was empty all day  I was the first home. Turned
PC on
and left it un-logged in for approx. an hour.

Logged in, waited for systray icons to all appear showing all 'run'
apps
completed, and opened SM Mail. It opened, downloaded 3 short text
messages. The wife read one message over my shoulder, said that
message
could be deleted. So I did, or thought so, anyway.

Pressed delete key but message stayed in Inbox. Checked Deleted
folder,
empty. Went back to Inbox, but only Folder pane showed any
content--thread  message panes were both blank. Assumed some
background
process was taking up processor time, but Task Manager showed 99%
system
idle time, and there was no network traffic.

No background CPU takeover, no scheduled tasks running, no busy
network.
I left it ticking over for a full 5 minutes without change, then
closed
the SM Mail window (browser never open). Verified seamonkey.exe
process
was absent from Task Manager and re-opened Mail--deleted same message
again and it worked perfectly, and for everything after that.

Suggestions?


You must allow your hard working SM program to take a coffee break.
As you know that since the start of the rapid release policy
the program hasn't had a chance to stop to draw a decent breath.



I've had hangs with 2.4.1 where my only recourse (I've waited as
much as
an hour) is to kill the process. Many of them, but by no means all of
them, seem to be associated with downloads.

(Before 2.4.1, I've almost never had a hang or crash with SeaMonkey.
Now
it is once every day or two.)

(This is on Windows 7 64 bit.)

Bob

I think I've sorted this one. My only known issue is with deleting
messages. Killing all SM processes, I've gone into my profile directory
and deleted the Mail\Trash.msf file, then restarted SM. Prior to this,
anytime anything was selected for deletion, that's when SM stops playing
nice. The clue this time was that I could click on any folder/subfolder
in my folder pane with instant results, but clicking on 'Deleted' gave
me a blank message thread pane and a cursor with an hourglass. Soon as I
clicked on something else the hourglass disappeared and everything
worked normally.

First tried to go through SM email account prefs to change the pointer
for Deleted, but there's no GUI option to change that one folder
destination. So I did it the hard way. For now, SM seems to be happy.

We'll see.


Rickles, have you tried File-Empty Trash and then File-Compact Folders
to reduce the size of your mail folders??


Yeah, but that hadn't helped. Nothing is very big, and I have the
options set to auto-compact when the space savings is over 1 Mbyte.
While I do have some emails that go back nearly 10 years, I don't have
1,000's of them, and my entire mail profile folder is less than 400Meg.
My trash is auto-emptied whenever I close Mail, as well. I try to keep
things from getting too cluttered.


I hadn't read, here, that you had done that, so thought it was worth 
mentioning.


No harm done, sorry it didn't help.

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Re: More on unexplained SM 'hangs'?

2011-10-22 Thread Errol Smith
This hang is caused by SM 'helpfully' calculating how much disk space 
you would save if you compacted all your folders after you just deleted 
something.


Go to Preferences  Mail  Newsgroups  Network  Storage
and untick Compact folders when it will save.
Then it won't do it any more.

And remember to manually compact your mail folders once in a while.

YMMV.

Rickles wrote:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110928 Firefox/7.0.1
SeaMonkey/2.4.1.

Others have complained about SM appearing to hang, or at least take a
ridiculously long time to do something as simple as delete an email. I'd
never seen it before, until today.

Normally the PC's been on most of the day while I've been at work, but
today the house was empty all day  I was the first home. Turned PC on
and left it un-logged in for approx. an hour.

Logged in, waited for systray icons to all appear showing all 'run' apps
completed, and opened SM Mail. It opened, downloaded 3 short text
messages. The wife read one message over my shoulder, said that message
could be deleted. So I did, or thought so, anyway.

Pressed delete key but message stayed in Inbox. Checked Deleted folder,
empty. Went back to Inbox, but only Folder pane showed any
content--thread  message panes were both blank. Assumed some background
process was taking up processor time, but Task Manager showed 99% system
idle time, and there was no network traffic.

No background CPU takeover, no scheduled tasks running, no busy network.
I left it ticking over for a full 5 minutes without change, then closed
the SM Mail window (browser never open). Verified seamonkey.exe process
was absent from Task Manager and re-opened Mail--deleted same message
again and it worked perfectly, and for everything after that.

Suggestions?


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Re: More on unexplained SM 'hangs'?

2011-10-21 Thread Rickles

Daniel wrote:

Rickles wrote:

Bob Fleischer wrote:

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

Rickles wrote:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110928 Firefox/7.0.1
SeaMonkey/2.4.1.

Others have complained about SM appearing to hang, or at least take a
ridiculously long time to do something as simple as delete an email.
I'd
never seen it before, until today.

Normally the PC's been on most of the day while I've been at work, but
today the house was empty all day  I was the first home. Turned PC on
and left it un-logged in for approx. an hour.

Logged in, waited for systray icons to all appear showing all 'run'
apps
completed, and opened SM Mail. It opened, downloaded 3 short text
messages. The wife read one message over my shoulder, said that
message
could be deleted. So I did, or thought so, anyway.

Pressed delete key but message stayed in Inbox. Checked Deleted
folder,
empty. Went back to Inbox, but only Folder pane showed any
content--thread  message panes were both blank. Assumed some
background
process was taking up processor time, but Task Manager showed 99%
system
idle time, and there was no network traffic.

No background CPU takeover, no scheduled tasks running, no busy
network.
I left it ticking over for a full 5 minutes without change, then
closed
the SM Mail window (browser never open). Verified seamonkey.exe
process
was absent from Task Manager and re-opened Mail--deleted same message
again and it worked perfectly, and for everything after that.

Suggestions?


You must allow your hard working SM program to take a coffee break.
As you know that since the start of the rapid release policy
the program hasn't had a chance to stop to draw a decent breath.



I've had hangs with 2.4.1 where my only recourse (I've waited as much as
an hour) is to kill the process. Many of them, but by no means all of
them, seem to be associated with downloads.

(Before 2.4.1, I've almost never had a hang or crash with SeaMonkey. Now
it is once every day or two.)

(This is on Windows 7 64 bit.)

Bob

I think I've sorted this one. My only known issue is with deleting
messages. Killing all SM processes, I've gone into my profile directory
and deleted the Mail\Trash.msf file, then restarted SM. Prior to this,
anytime anything was selected for deletion, that's when SM stops playing
nice. The clue this time was that I could click on any folder/subfolder
in my folder pane with instant results, but clicking on 'Deleted' gave
me a blank message thread pane and a cursor with an hourglass. Soon as I
clicked on something else the hourglass disappeared and everything
worked normally.

First tried to go through SM email account prefs to change the pointer
for Deleted, but there's no GUI option to change that one folder
destination. So I did it the hard way. For now, SM seems to be happy.

We'll see.


Rickles, have you tried File-Empty Trash and then File-Compact Folders
to reduce the size of your mail folders??

Yeah, but that hadn't helped.  Nothing is very big, and I have the 
options set to auto-compact when the space savings is over 1 Mbyte. 
While I do have some emails that go back nearly 10 years, I don't have 
1,000's  of them, and my entire mail profile folder is less than 400Meg. 
 My trash is auto-emptied whenever I close Mail, as well.  I try to 
keep things from getting too cluttered.

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Re: More on unexplained SM 'hangs'?

2011-10-20 Thread Bob Fleischer

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

Rickles wrote:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110928 Firefox/7.0.1
SeaMonkey/2.4.1.

Others have complained about SM appearing to hang, or at least take a
ridiculously long time to do something as simple as delete an email. I'd
never seen it before, until today.

Normally the PC's been on most of the day while I've been at work, but
today the house was empty all day  I was the first home. Turned PC on
and left it un-logged in for approx. an hour.

Logged in, waited for systray icons to all appear showing all 'run' apps
completed, and opened SM Mail. It opened, downloaded 3 short text
messages. The wife read one message over my shoulder, said that message
could be deleted. So I did, or thought so, anyway.

Pressed delete key but message stayed in Inbox. Checked Deleted folder,
empty. Went back to Inbox, but only Folder pane showed any
content--thread  message panes were both blank. Assumed some background
process was taking up processor time, but Task Manager showed 99% system
idle time, and there was no network traffic.

No background CPU takeover, no scheduled tasks running, no busy network.
I left it ticking over for a full 5 minutes without change, then closed
the SM Mail window (browser never open). Verified seamonkey.exe process
was absent from Task Manager and re-opened Mail--deleted same message
again and it worked perfectly, and for everything after that.

Suggestions?


You must allow your hard working SM program to take a coffee break.
As you know that since the start of the rapid release policy
the program hasn't had a chance to stop to draw a decent breath.



I've had hangs with 2.4.1 where my only recourse (I've waited as much as 
an hour) is to kill the process.  Many of them, but by no means all of 
them, seem to be associated with downloads.


(Before 2.4.1, I've almost never had a hang or crash with SeaMonkey. 
Now it is once every day or two.)


(This is on Windows 7 64 bit.)

Bob
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Re: More on unexplained SM 'hangs'?

2011-10-20 Thread Rickles

Bob Fleischer wrote:

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

Rickles wrote:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110928 Firefox/7.0.1
SeaMonkey/2.4.1.

Others have complained about SM appearing to hang, or at least take a
ridiculously long time to do something as simple as delete an email. I'd
never seen it before, until today.

Normally the PC's been on most of the day while I've been at work, but
today the house was empty all day  I was the first home. Turned PC on
and left it un-logged in for approx. an hour.

Logged in, waited for systray icons to all appear showing all 'run' apps
completed, and opened SM Mail. It opened, downloaded 3 short text
messages. The wife read one message over my shoulder, said that message
could be deleted. So I did, or thought so, anyway.

Pressed delete key but message stayed in Inbox. Checked Deleted folder,
empty. Went back to Inbox, but only Folder pane showed any
content--thread  message panes were both blank. Assumed some background
process was taking up processor time, but Task Manager showed 99% system
idle time, and there was no network traffic.

No background CPU takeover, no scheduled tasks running, no busy network.
I left it ticking over for a full 5 minutes without change, then closed
the SM Mail window (browser never open). Verified seamonkey.exe process
was absent from Task Manager and re-opened Mail--deleted same message
again and it worked perfectly, and for everything after that.

Suggestions?


You must allow your hard working SM program to take a coffee break.
As you know that since the start of the rapid release policy
the program hasn't had a chance to stop to draw a decent breath.



I've had hangs with 2.4.1 where my only recourse (I've waited as much as
an hour) is to kill the process. Many of them, but by no means all of
them, seem to be associated with downloads.

(Before 2.4.1, I've almost never had a hang or crash with SeaMonkey. Now
it is once every day or two.)

(This is on Windows 7 64 bit.)

Bob
I think I've sorted this one.  My only known issue is with deleting 
messages.  Killing all SM processes, I've gone into my profile directory 
and deleted the Mail\Trash.msf file, then restarted SM.  Prior to this, 
anytime anything was selected for deletion, that's when SM stops playing 
nice.  The clue this time was that I could click on any folder/subfolder 
in my folder pane with instant results, but clicking on 'Deleted' gave 
me a blank message thread pane and a cursor with an hourglass.  Soon as 
I clicked on something else the hourglass disappeared and everything 
worked normally.


First tried to go through SM email account prefs to change the pointer 
for Deleted, but there's no GUI option to change that one folder 
destination.  So I did it the hard way.  For now, SM seems to be happy.


We'll see.
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Re: More on unexplained SM 'hangs'?

2011-10-20 Thread Daniel

Rickles wrote:

Bob Fleischer wrote:

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

Rickles wrote:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110928 Firefox/7.0.1
SeaMonkey/2.4.1.

Others have complained about SM appearing to hang, or at least take a
ridiculously long time to do something as simple as delete an email.
I'd
never seen it before, until today.

Normally the PC's been on most of the day while I've been at work, but
today the house was empty all day  I was the first home. Turned PC on
and left it un-logged in for approx. an hour.

Logged in, waited for systray icons to all appear showing all 'run'
apps
completed, and opened SM Mail. It opened, downloaded 3 short text
messages. The wife read one message over my shoulder, said that message
could be deleted. So I did, or thought so, anyway.

Pressed delete key but message stayed in Inbox. Checked Deleted folder,
empty. Went back to Inbox, but only Folder pane showed any
content--thread  message panes were both blank. Assumed some
background
process was taking up processor time, but Task Manager showed 99%
system
idle time, and there was no network traffic.

No background CPU takeover, no scheduled tasks running, no busy
network.
I left it ticking over for a full 5 minutes without change, then closed
the SM Mail window (browser never open). Verified seamonkey.exe process
was absent from Task Manager and re-opened Mail--deleted same message
again and it worked perfectly, and for everything after that.

Suggestions?


You must allow your hard working SM program to take a coffee break.
As you know that since the start of the rapid release policy
the program hasn't had a chance to stop to draw a decent breath.



I've had hangs with 2.4.1 where my only recourse (I've waited as much as
an hour) is to kill the process. Many of them, but by no means all of
them, seem to be associated with downloads.

(Before 2.4.1, I've almost never had a hang or crash with SeaMonkey. Now
it is once every day or two.)

(This is on Windows 7 64 bit.)

Bob

I think I've sorted this one. My only known issue is with deleting
messages. Killing all SM processes, I've gone into my profile directory
and deleted the Mail\Trash.msf file, then restarted SM. Prior to this,
anytime anything was selected for deletion, that's when SM stops playing
nice. The clue this time was that I could click on any folder/subfolder
in my folder pane with instant results, but clicking on 'Deleted' gave
me a blank message thread pane and a cursor with an hourglass. Soon as I
clicked on something else the hourglass disappeared and everything
worked normally.

First tried to go through SM email account prefs to change the pointer
for Deleted, but there's no GUI option to change that one folder
destination. So I did it the hard way. For now, SM seems to be happy.

We'll see.


Rickles, have you tried File-Empty Trash and then File-Compact Folders 
to reduce the size of your mail folders??


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More on unexplained SM 'hangs'?

2011-10-19 Thread Rickles
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110928 Firefox/7.0.1 
SeaMonkey/2.4.1.


Others have complained about SM appearing to hang, or at least take a 
ridiculously long time to do something as simple as delete an email. 
I'd never seen it before, until today.


Normally the PC's been on most of the day while I've been at work, but 
today the house was empty all day  I was the first home.  Turned PC on 
and left it un-logged in for approx. an hour.


Logged in, waited for systray icons to all appear showing all 'run' apps 
completed, and opened SM Mail.  It opened, downloaded 3 short text 
messages.  The wife read one message over my shoulder, said that message 
could be deleted.  So I did, or thought so, anyway.


Pressed delete key but message stayed in Inbox.  Checked Deleted folder, 
empty.  Went back to Inbox, but only Folder pane showed any 
content--thread  message panes were both blank.  Assumed some 
background process was taking up processor time, but Task Manager showed 
99% system idle time, and there was no network traffic.


No background CPU takeover, no scheduled tasks running, no busy network. 
 I left it ticking over for a full 5 minutes without change, then 
closed the SM Mail window (browser never open).  Verified seamonkey.exe 
process was absent from Task Manager and re-opened Mail--deleted same 
message again and it worked perfectly, and for everything after that.


Suggestions?
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Re: More on unexplained SM 'hangs'?

2011-10-19 Thread Rostyslaw Lewyckyj

Rickles wrote:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110928 Firefox/7.0.1
SeaMonkey/2.4.1.

Others have complained about SM appearing to hang, or at least take a
ridiculously long time to do something as simple as delete an email. I'd
never seen it before, until today.

Normally the PC's been on most of the day while I've been at work, but
today the house was empty all day  I was the first home. Turned PC on
and left it un-logged in for approx. an hour.

Logged in, waited for systray icons to all appear showing all 'run' apps
completed, and opened SM Mail. It opened, downloaded 3 short text
messages. The wife read one message over my shoulder, said that message
could be deleted. So I did, or thought so, anyway.

Pressed delete key but message stayed in Inbox. Checked Deleted folder,
empty. Went back to Inbox, but only Folder pane showed any
content--thread  message panes were both blank. Assumed some background
process was taking up processor time, but Task Manager showed 99% system
idle time, and there was no network traffic.

No background CPU takeover, no scheduled tasks running, no busy network.
I left it ticking over for a full 5 minutes without change, then closed
the SM Mail window (browser never open). Verified seamonkey.exe process
was absent from Task Manager and re-opened Mail--deleted same message
again and it worked perfectly, and for everything after that.

Suggestions?


You must allow your hard working SM program to take a coffee break.
As you know that since the start of the rapid release policy
the program hasn't had a chance to stop to draw a decent breath.

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