Re: Change in password retention in MailNews?

[NFN Smith]

David E. Ross wrote:

I was having a similar problem but with Thunderbird.  It turned out that
the problem was NOT in Thunderbird but in the authentication software in
the ISP's mail server.  Have you tried contacting your ISP about this?


A useful question, but this is happening with multiple mail service 
providers (and widely divergent server software).


Smith
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Re: Change in password retention in MailNews?

[Dirk Fieldhouse]

On 18/12/2020 19:53, Torsten Funk wrote:

...

In the past we could define a timer/timeout somewhere in the
preferences, which 'logs out' the password manager. ...

Can anybody find this setting in the Preferences?



How about signon.masterPasswordReprompt.timeout_ms ?

Apparently the default is 15 minutes.

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Re: Change in password retention in MailNews?

[David E. Ross]

On 11/21/2020 11:23 AM, NFN Smith wrote:
> This one may be a little bit of a personal quirk, but my handling of 
> email going to my work account and primary personal account is done 
> where I let the Seamonkey password manager remember my password for SMTP 
> and LDAP access, but where I don't allow it to remember for POP access. 
> To me, because I have complex passwords, it's useful to have to enter 
> those regularly, as a way of ensuring that I never forget them -- and 
> there are occasions where it is useful to know that I have them 
> memorized, without having to rely on my external password manager.
> 
> I'm used to the idea that a password needs to be entered once per 
> session, and since I have Seamonkey open all day, entering those 
> passwords once per day is an acceptable intrusion, if I don't have need 
> to restart Seamonkey.
> 
> However, I'm seeing that after a few hours open, Seamonkey seems to be 
> forgetting the entered passwords, and where I have to manually re-enter 
> to check for new mail.  I just upgraded to 2.53.5.1 it's still 
> happening.  I haven't watched closely, but this seems to have started 
> happening since 2.53.4.  Is there some change to Seamonkey that would 
> cause the difference in handling?
> 
> I checked my server settings, and I have one set to check for new 
> messages every 15 minutes and the other every 30 minutes. I've 
> experimented with lowering both to 5 minute intervals, and I'm still 
> seeing the same effect. I'm not sure how frequently I have to re-enter 
> passwords, but over the course of about 9 hours, I have to re-enter at 
> least twice.
> 
> Should I just accept things, and let Seamonkey remember my POP passwords?
> 
> Smith
> 

I was having a similar problem but with Thunderbird.  It turned out that
the problem was NOT in Thunderbird but in the authentication software in
the ISP's mail server.  Have you tried contacting your ISP about this?

-- 
David E. Ross


I just do not understand why so many people think
a sore looser makes a great President.
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Re: Change in password retention in MailNews?

[Torsten Funk]

I have the same issue since a while, and already had opened a thread
here with the title 'Seamonkey Mail keeps asking for master password',
but got now reply on it.

In the past we could define a timer/timeout somewhere in the
preferences, which 'logs out' the password manager. This logged out the
browser only after x minutes, but Mail remained logged into the password
manager the entire session. Unfortunately, I can not find this setting
back in preferences. I had it set to 5 minutes, and it still works
correct on browser side, but it logs out Mail too now, and the setting
apparently vanished. One still can manually log out the browser manually
in the Extra menu (not sure about proper English menu names).

Can anybody find this setting in the Preferences?
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Re: Change in password retention in MailNews?

[NFN Smith]

Lemuel Johnson wrote:

On 11/21/2020 1:23 PM, NFN Smith wrote:


Seamonkey seems to be 
forgetting the entered passwords, and where I have to manually 
re-enter to check for new mail.  I just upgraded to 2.53.5.1 it's 
still happening.  I haven't watched closely, but this seems to have 
started happening since 2.53.4.  Is there some change to Seamonkey 
that would cause the difference in handling?





I noticed similar behavior beginning in 2.53.4.  I'm now entering IMAP 
passwords several times a day instead of when first opening SeaMonkey Mail.


This one seems to be intermittent.  Sometimes, I'm re-entering passwords 
a couple of times per day.  On the other hand, I left Seamonkey open 
overnight, and my accounts show alerts of new mail received.


It also seems that the pattern applies to all my accounts, and isn't 
server-specific.  If I have to re-enter a password for one account, I 
have to re-enter for the other, as well.


I may file a Bugzilla report on this one...

Smith


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Re: Change in password retention in MailNews?

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 11/21/2020 1:23 PM, NFN Smith wrote:
This one may be a little bit of a personal quirk, but my handling of 
email going to my work account and primary personal account is done 
where I let the Seamonkey password manager remember my password for SMTP 
and LDAP access, but where I don't allow it to remember for POP access. 
To me, because I have complex passwords, it's useful to have to enter 
those regularly, as a way of ensuring that I never forget them -- and 
there are occasions where it is useful to know that I have them 
memorized, without having to rely on my external password manager.


I'm used to the idea that a password needs to be entered once per 
session, and since I have Seamonkey open all day, entering those 
passwords once per day is an acceptable intrusion, if I don't have need 
to restart Seamonkey.


However, I'm seeing that after a few hours open, Seamonkey seems to be 
forgetting the entered passwords, and where I have to manually re-enter 
to check for new mail.  I just upgraded to 2.53.5.1 it's still 
happening.  I haven't watched closely, but this seems to have started 
happening since 2.53.4.  Is there some change to Seamonkey that would 
cause the difference in handling?


I checked my server settings, and I have one set to check for new 
messages every 15 minutes and the other every 30 minutes. I've 
experimented with lowering both to 5 minute intervals, and I'm still 
seeing the same effect. I'm not sure how frequently I have to re-enter 
passwords, but over the course of about 9 hours, I have to re-enter at 
least twice.


Should I just accept things, and let Seamonkey remember my POP passwords?

Smith


I noticed similar behavior beginning in 2.53.4.  I'm now entering IMAP 
passwords several times a day instead of when first opening SeaMonkey Mail.


Lem Johnson

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