Re: High Memory Usage 2.53.3 64 bit

[David H. Durgee]

I'm afraid I don't know the answer to either of your questions.  The one
I am using is:

Restart Application Button 53.0
By Baris Derin

Restart Application Button lets you restart your Firefox and SeaMonkey
application by a quick toolbar button click.

This is in my list of extensions and it should be easy to find it and
try it for your problems.

Dave

> Ant wrote:
> Ah. I wonder what command it is using to tell it to automatically
> relaunch. Does it work when SM is stuck and automatically tell its
> startup's prompt to force exit the stuckage and relaunch? I get those
> once in a while with seamonkey.exe process stuck even though I quit SM
> earlier.
> 
> 
> On 9/17/2020 4:56 AM, David H. Durgee wrote:
>> The restart application button closes SeaMonkey and then launches it
>> again.  With the hot key you must start SeaMonkey manually.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>> Ant wrote:
>>> What is the difference between than regular exit (I use its default
>>> ctrl-q hotkeys)?
>>>
>>> On 9/16/2020 6:02 PM, David H. Durgee wrote:
 I use the "restart Application Button" add-on here for this.
> ...

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Re: High Memory Usage 2.53.3 64 bit

[Ant]

Ah. I wonder what command it is using to tell it to automatically 
relaunch. Does it work when SM is stuck and automatically tell its 
startup's prompt to force exit the stuckage and relaunch? I get those 
once in a while with seamonkey.exe process stuck even though I quit SM 
earlier.



On 9/17/2020 4:56 AM, David H. Durgee wrote:

The restart application button closes SeaMonkey and then launches it
again.  With the hot key you must start SeaMonkey manually.

Dave


Ant wrote:
What is the difference between than regular exit (I use its default
ctrl-q hotkeys)?

On 9/16/2020 6:02 PM, David H. Durgee wrote:

I use the "restart Application Button" add-on here for this.

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Re: High Memory Usage 2.53.3 64 bit

[David H. Durgee]

The restart application button closes SeaMonkey and then launches it
again.  With the hot key you must start SeaMonkey manually.

Dave

> Ant wrote:
> What is the difference between than regular exit (I use its default
> ctrl-q hotkeys)?
> 
> On 9/16/2020 6:02 PM, David H. Durgee wrote:
>> I use the "restart Application Button" add-on here for this.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>> Ant wrote:
>>> You can't do a normal quit? Sometimes I can do that if it lets me and
>>> still save my sessions.
>>>
>>> On 9/16/2020 1:29 AM, Szymon Stryczek wrote:
 I have exactly the same experience (just on 64-bit Windows).
 Slowdowns start to happen around Seamonkey reaching 2GB of RAM usage
 and they extend for me not only to tab switching but all, site
 scrolling, mail sending etc.
 "about:memory" + GC seems to help a little bit but honestly the only
 option that really helps me is brutal kill of process and my beloved
 "restore previous session" functionality - that does the trick for few
 next hours.
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Re: High Memory Usage 2.53.3 64 bit

[Ant]

What is the difference between than regular exit (I use its default 
ctrl-q hotkeys)?


On 9/16/2020 6:02 PM, David H. Durgee wrote:

I use the "restart Application Button" add-on here for this.

Dave


Ant wrote:
You can't do a normal quit? Sometimes I can do that if it lets me and
still save my sessions.

On 9/16/2020 1:29 AM, Szymon Stryczek wrote:

I have exactly the same experience (just on 64-bit Windows).
Slowdowns start to happen around Seamonkey reaching 2GB of RAM usage
and they extend for me not only to tab switching but all, site
scrolling, mail sending etc.
"about:memory" + GC seems to help a little bit but honestly the only
option that really helps me is brutal kill of process and my beloved
"restore previous session" functionality - that does the trick for few
next hours.

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Re: High Memory Usage 2.53.3 64 bit

[David H. Durgee]

I use the "restart Application Button" add-on here for this.

Dave

> Ant wrote:
> You can't do a normal quit? Sometimes I can do that if it lets me and
> still save my sessions.
> 
> On 9/16/2020 1:29 AM, Szymon Stryczek wrote:
>> I have exactly the same experience (just on 64-bit Windows).
>> Slowdowns start to happen around Seamonkey reaching 2GB of RAM usage
>> and they extend for me not only to tab switching but all, site
>> scrolling, mail sending etc.
>> "about:memory" + GC seems to help a little bit but honestly the only
>> option that really helps me is brutal kill of process and my beloved
>> "restore previous session" functionality - that does the trick for few
>> next hours.
>>
>>
>>
>> bdelmee wrote:
>>> Unfortunately this is my experience, too (on 64-bit linux)
>>>
>>> I typically keep 8-10 tabs open, which a t the end of a day
>>> typically means SM2.49.5 uses about 1-1.2 GB RAM.
>>> With SM2.53.3 this balloons to 2.5-3GB - much higher.
>>> There are also perceivable delays to switch between tabs.
>>>
>>> I am not complaining - i have been using the Mozilla suite since
>>> before its 1.0
>>> release and am very thankful to the developers who have kept
>>> SeaMonkey alive.
>>> Perhaps if I (and other users) spent more time with betas, things
>>> would be
>>> better but the trend is worrying.
>>>
>>>
>>>  Mr. Ed  wrote on 2020-09-10 02:06:
 I noticed today while running FaceBook and trying to turn off 
 Messenger
 Active Status the screen went slightly blurry, the "X" in upper
 right corner
 turned RED and the pointer became a spinning  circle. Everything
 froze.  I was
 able to open Task Manager via the "Control-Alt-Delete" and checked
 SeanMonkey.  Memory was just running up the scale.  Was a little
 over1GB when
 opened Task Manager and was increase like crazy.  In about 30
 seconds it was
 almost to 3GB.  I then 'stopped' SeaMonkey.

 I tried this again - same results.  Then I disabled Java Script.
 Tried again
 - same results.

 Anyone else experience this with FaceBook?  Sending SM into a loop?
 SeaMonkey
 or FaceBook or (heaven forbid) my problem?

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Re: High Memory Usage 2.53.3 64 bit

[Ant]

You can't do a normal quit? Sometimes I can do that if it lets me and 
still save my sessions.


On 9/16/2020 1:29 AM, Szymon Stryczek wrote:

I have exactly the same experience (just on 64-bit Windows).
Slowdowns start to happen around Seamonkey reaching 2GB of RAM usage and 
they extend for me not only to tab switching but all, site scrolling, 
mail sending etc.
"about:memory" + GC seems to help a little bit but honestly the only 
option that really helps me is brutal kill of process and my beloved 
"restore previous session" functionality - that does the trick for few 
next hours.




bdelmee wrote:

Unfortunately this is my experience, too (on 64-bit linux)

I typically keep 8-10 tabs open, which a t the end of a day
typically means SM2.49.5 uses about 1-1.2 GB RAM.
With SM2.53.3 this balloons to 2.5-3GB - much higher.
There are also perceivable delays to switch between tabs.

I am not complaining - i have been using the Mozilla suite since 
before its 1.0
release and am very thankful to the developers who have kept SeaMonkey 
alive.
Perhaps if I (and other users) spent more time with betas, things 
would be

better but the trend is worrying.


 Mr. Ed  wrote on 2020-09-10 02:06:

I noticed today while running FaceBook and trying to turn off  Messenger
Active Status the screen went slightly blurry, the "X" in upper right 
corner
turned RED and the pointer became a spinning  circle. Everything 
froze.  I was

able to open Task Manager via the "Control-Alt-Delete" and checked
SeanMonkey.  Memory was just running up the scale.  Was a little 
over1GB when
opened Task Manager and was increase like crazy.  In about 30 seconds 
it was

almost to 3GB.  I then 'stopped' SeaMonkey.

I tried this again - same results.  Then I disabled Java Script. 
Tried again

- same results.

Anyone else experience this with FaceBook?  Sending SM into a loop? 
SeaMonkey

or FaceBook or (heaven forbid) my problem?

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Re: High Memory Usage 2.53.3 64 bit

[Szymon Stryczek]

I have exactly the same experience (just on 64-bit Windows).
Slowdowns start to happen around Seamonkey reaching 2GB of RAM usage and 
they extend for me not only to tab switching but all, site scrolling, 
mail sending etc.
"about:memory" + GC seems to help a little bit but honestly the only 
option that really helps me is brutal kill of process and my beloved 
"restore previous session" functionality - that does the trick for few 
next hours.




bdelmee wrote:

Unfortunately this is my experience, too (on 64-bit linux)

I typically keep 8-10 tabs open, which a t the end of a day
typically means SM2.49.5 uses about 1-1.2 GB RAM.
With SM2.53.3 this balloons to 2.5-3GB - much higher.
There are also perceivable delays to switch between tabs.

I am not complaining - i have been using the Mozilla suite since before 
its 1.0
release and am very thankful to the developers who have kept SeaMonkey 
alive.

Perhaps if I (and other users) spent more time with betas, things would be
better but the trend is worrying.


 Mr. Ed  wrote on 2020-09-10 02:06:

I noticed today while running FaceBook and trying to turn off  Messenger
Active Status the screen went slightly blurry, the "X" in upper right 
corner
turned RED and the pointer became a spinning  circle. Everything 
froze.  I was

able to open Task Manager via the "Control-Alt-Delete" and checked
SeanMonkey.  Memory was just running up the scale.  Was a little 
over1GB when
opened Task Manager and was increase like crazy.  In about 30 seconds 
it was

almost to 3GB.  I then 'stopped' SeaMonkey.

I tried this again - same results.  Then I disabled Java Script.  
Tried again

- same results.

Anyone else experience this with FaceBook?  Sending SM into a loop?  
SeaMonkey

or FaceBook or (heaven forbid) my problem?



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Re: High Memory Usage 2.53.3 64 bit

[bdelmee]

Unfortunately this is my experience, too (on 64-bit linux)

I typically keep 8-10 tabs open, which a t the end of a day
typically means SM2.49.5 uses about 1-1.2 GB RAM.
With SM2.53.3 this balloons to 2.5-3GB - much higher.
There are also perceivable delays to switch between tabs.

I am not complaining - i have been using the Mozilla suite since before 
its 1.0
release and am very thankful to the developers who have kept SeaMonkey 
alive.

Perhaps if I (and other users) spent more time with betas, things would be
better but the trend is worrying.


 Mr. Ed  wrote on 2020-09-10 02:06:

I noticed today while running FaceBook and trying to turn off  Messenger
Active Status the screen went slightly blurry, the "X" in upper right corner
turned RED and the pointer became a spinning  circle. Everything froze.  I was
able to open Task Manager via the "Control-Alt-Delete" and checked
SeanMonkey.  Memory was just running up the scale.  Was a little over1GB when
opened Task Manager and was increase like crazy.  In about 30 seconds it was
almost to 3GB.  I then 'stopped' SeaMonkey.

I tried this again - same results.  Then I disabled Java Script.  Tried again
- same results.

Anyone else experience this with FaceBook?  Sending SM into a loop?  SeaMonkey
or FaceBook or (heaven forbid) my problem?


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Re: High Memory Usage 2.53.3 64 bit

[Edward]

On 9/9/20 8:06 PM,  Mr. Ed  wrote:

I noticed today while running FaceBook and trying to turn off  Messenger
Active Status the screen went slightly blurry, the "X" in upper right corner
turned RED and the pointer became a spinning  circle. Everything froze.  I was
able to open Task Manager via the "Control-Alt-Delete" and checked
SeanMonkey.  Memory was just running up the scale.  Was a little over1GB when
opened Task Manager and was increase like crazy.  In about 30 seconds it was
almost to 3GB.  I then 'stopped' SeaMonkey.

I tried this again - same results.  Then I disabled Java Script.  Tried again
- same results.

Anyone else experience this with FaceBook?  Sending SM into a loop?  SeaMonkey
or FaceBook or (heaven forbid) my problem?


Sometimes, it can be the web site causing this. I found the Yahoo home 
page causing SeaMonkey memory usage to go beyond 1Gb.




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Re: High Memory Usage 2.53.3 64 bit

[Ant]

Yes. Same with YouTube, LinkedIn, Gmail, Twitter, etc. :(

On 9/9/2020 5:06 PM,  Mr. Ed  wrote:

I noticed today while running FaceBook and trying to turn off  Messenger
Active Status the screen went slightly blurry, the "X" in upper right corner
turned RED and the pointer became a spinning  circle. Everything froze.  I was
able to open Task Manager via the "Control-Alt-Delete" and checked
SeanMonkey.  Memory was just running up the scale.  Was a little over1GB when
opened Task Manager and was increase like crazy.  In about 30 seconds it was
almost to 3GB.  I then 'stopped' SeaMonkey.

I tried this again - same results.  Then I disabled Java Script.  Tried again
- same results.

Anyone else experience this with FaceBook?  Sending SM into a loop?  SeaMonkey
or FaceBook or (heaven forbid) my problem?-- 
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Re: High Memory Usage?

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Apples and oranges.
IE is build into Windows and uses internal functions which are not reported by 
the memory usage. It also does not support many newer web features which are 
unfortunately memory hungrier.


SM 64 bit is around 300 MB from start with a few add-ons. x86 50 to 100 MB less.

Tom Pamin wrote:
SM 2.49.4 is using 414,000K of memory in Task Manager. IE uses about 55,000. 
Why the big difference? Can I reduce memory usage for SM?

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Re: High Memory Usage?

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

On 9/12/2018 12:09 PM, Ant wrote:
...

Thus, the content of Web pages -- text, images, scripts, etc -- is the
major factor in sizing.


LinkedIn.com is the worse. Very slow, bloated, and a hogger especially 
with multiple tabs. :(


Facebook.com is another one. :(
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Re: High Memory Usage?

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

On 9/12/2018 8:23 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/12/2018 3:13 AM, Tom Pamin wrote:

SM 2.49.4 is using 414,000K of memory in Task Manager. IE uses about
55,000. Why the big difference? Can I reduce memory usage for SM?



Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.4
28 extensions

The Windows Task Manager indicates less than 132,000 KB with 2 tabs
open, including Web content.

The about:addons-memory indicates that SeaMonkey itself is using about
12,130 KB with only 1 tab open.  The about:addons-memory extension
itself is the largest extension with 4,310 KB.  Next largest is AdBlock
Plus with 671.5 KB.  Four others each require 106 KB to 266 KB.  All
other extensions are less than 100 KB.  These sizes exclude Web content.

Thus, the content of Web pages -- text, images, scripts, etc -- is the
major factor in sizing.


LinkedIn.com is the worse. Very slow, bloated, and a hogger especially 
with multiple tabs. :(

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Re: High Memory Usage?

[Richmond]

Tom Pamin wrote:
> Richmond wrote:
>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>> SM 2.49.4 is using 414,000K of memory in Task Manager. IE uses about
>>> 55,000. Why the big difference? Can I reduce memory usage for SM?
>>
>> Are you using any addons? I found adblock plus was memory greedy.
>>
> Just disabled Adblock Plus. Usage went down to 364,000.

Are you visiting the same websites with IE and SM? In my experience it
is websites and their adverts, and extensions, which cause memory usage
to creep up.

You could look at about:memory to see if it gives some clues.

You could close all the tabs/windows and then open them again one at a
time to see which makes the memory go up.

You could use Noscript to restrict javascript to the domain being
visited. I am using Noscript 5.1.8.2 as later ones won't work with SM.
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Re: High Memory Usage?

[David E. Ross]

On 9/12/2018 3:13 AM, Tom Pamin wrote:
> SM 2.49.4 is using 414,000K of memory in Task Manager. IE uses about 
> 55,000. Why the big difference? Can I reduce memory usage for SM?
> 

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.4
28 extensions

The Windows Task Manager indicates less than 132,000 KB with 2 tabs
open, including Web content.

The about:addons-memory indicates that SeaMonkey itself is using about
12,130 KB with only 1 tab open.  The about:addons-memory extension
itself is the largest extension with 4,310 KB.  Next largest is AdBlock
Plus with 671.5 KB.  Four others each require 106 KB to 266 KB.  All
other extensions are less than 100 KB.  These sizes exclude Web content.

Thus, the content of Web pages -- text, images, scripts, etc -- is the
major factor in sizing.

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Re: High Memory Usage?

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

On 9/12/2018 3:45 AM, Tom Pamin wrote:

Richmond wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:

SM 2.49.4 is using 414,000K of memory in Task Manager. IE uses about
55,000. Why the big difference? Can I reduce memory usage for SM?


Are you using any addons? I found adblock plus was memory greedy.


Just disabled Adblock Plus. Usage went down to 364,000.


Try uBlock Origin extension (https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock) and less 
ad filters and subscriptions. My SM can go over 1 GB of RAM on some web 
sites with multiple tabs. :(

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Re: High Memory Usage?

[Tom Pamin]

Richmond wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:

SM 2.49.4 is using 414,000K of memory in Task Manager. IE uses about
55,000. Why the big difference? Can I reduce memory usage for SM?


Are you using any addons? I found adblock plus was memory greedy.


Just disabled Adblock Plus. Usage went down to 364,000.
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Re: High Memory Usage?

[Tom Pamin]

GerardJan wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:
SM 2.49.4 is using 414,000K of memory in Task Manager. IE uses about 
55,000. Why the big difference? Can I reduce memory usage for SM?


Dear Tom,
I have a ¨top¨ attached so you can see how much /memory/ *seamonkey* 
uses at my site.

I have 4Gbyte RAM and uses Fedora version 20


Screenshot from 2018-09-12 12:30:58.png



Not sure I understand how to read it. How much memory is your SM using?
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Re: High Memory Usage?

[Richmond]

Tom Pamin wrote:
> SM 2.49.4 is using 414,000K of memory in Task Manager. IE uses about
> 55,000. Why the big difference? Can I reduce memory usage for SM?

Are you using any addons? I found adblock plus was memory greedy.

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