Re: How to move SeaMonkey to a new computer
Trane Francks wrote: Thank you! That's another completely different process than that I plan to try first, see my response to Paul earlier. Will MozBackup work with my setup, mail files on a drive other than the C drive? If so, perhaps I should install it and run it on a regular basis. Jay MozBackup reads the profile structure from the profile itself, so it has no problem collecting stuff in the backup. With regard to restoring, I'm unsure of how that would work should your new computer not have the same drives available. It's not a time-consuming issue to experiment, though. I believe that MozBackup should have no problem restoring to a non-standard location. I haven't checked, but as long as it can find %APPDATA%\profiles.ini, then the profiles.ini file should provide the necessary pointers to wherever the profile is located. As for backups in general, MozBackup is NOT a computer backup strategy and should not be treated as such. You should be doing proper system-wide backups from which restores can be done. Windows has capable tools for administering this task. Although some depends on how you're doing your backups. If I remember correctly, the default target location for MozBackup is My Documents. If you write your backups there, that will protect you from oops overwrites and deletions. However, if you've backed up there, then a regular system backup will copy that archive, as well. Yes, a proper system backup will get your data from the normal location, and you'll have duplicate data in your backup archive, but you have the convenience to recover with MozBackup. For me, I do my system backups to a LAN-connected drive, and I also make occasional runs of MozBackup, where I write the MozBackup archive to the LAN drive. Smith ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to move SeaMonkey to a new computer
I used MOZBACKUP it was so easy... backup everything on a thumb drive then restore all done - Jay O'Brien wrote, On 5/24/2014 4:27 PM: I've been with SeaMonkey since the Netscape days, and I have installed it in many computers over the years. Due to my personal memory problems, I can't remember the details. I have a new Win 7 Pro SP1 64 bit computer into which I want to install a clone of my present Win 7 Pro SP1 64 bit installation of SeaMonkey 2.26. Once SeaMonkey is working the same in both computers, I plan to use GoodSync to keep the mail files the same. I use Goodsync now in that manner, except that the recipient computer runs XP; the new Win 7 computer will take the place of the XP computer. I recall seeing a reference to on-line cloning instructions, but I can't find it now. I suspect I should start by installing SeaMonkey 2.26 in the new computer, but I will hold off until I get guidance from this knowledgeable group. Help please? Thanks. Jay O'Brien Folsom, CA ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to move SeaMonkey to a new computer
Jay O'Brien wrote: I've been with SeaMonkey since the Netscape days, and I have installed it in many computers over the years. Due to my personal memory problems, I can't remember the details. I have a new Win 7 Pro SP1 64 bit computer into which I want to install a clone of my present Win 7 Pro SP1 64 bit installation of SeaMonkey 2.26. Once SeaMonkey is working the same in both computers, I plan to use GoodSync to keep the mail files the same. I use Goodsync now in that manner, except that the recipient computer runs XP; the new Win 7 computer will take the place of the XP computer. I recall seeing a reference to on-line cloning instructions, but I can't find it now. I suspect I should start by installing SeaMonkey 2.26 in the new computer, but I will hold off until I get guidance from this knowledgeable group. Help please? Thanks. Since you have the same OS and the same version of SM on the two computers, here's a quick and easy way of doing it. I also assume you have installed SM on both computers and have the same plugins (Flash, Acrobat, etc.) on the two computers. Locate the folder C:\Users\YourWindowsName\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\ on both computers (your Windows username may be different, doesn't matter). 1) With SM closed, rename the one on the target computer to \OldMozilla or some other distinctive name of your choosing so SeaMonkey won't notice it. 2) With SM closed, copy the one on the source computer to the target computer so it's in the same directory as \OldMozilla. SeaMonkey will see and accept the new \Mozilla. (Note that if you need to copy to a CD as an intermediate step, you will have to change the read-only property of all files in the directory back to no after you copy from the CD to the target HDD). You're done. Once you're satisfied that all is well, you can delete \OldMozilla. If it doesn't work, delete the new \Mozilla and unrename \OldMozilla back to \Mozilla, which will leave you back where you started. You may have minor glitches if your Helper Applications list points to things that don't exist on the target computer, but that's easily fixed by installing the missing apps. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to move SeaMonkey to a new computer
Jay O'Brien wrote: I've been with SeaMonkey since the Netscape days, and I have installed it in many computers over the years. Due to my personal memory problems, I can't remember the details. I have a new Win 7 Pro SP1 64 bit computer into which I want to install a clone of my present Win 7 Pro SP1 64 bit installation of SeaMonkey 2.26. Once SeaMonkey is working the same in both computers, I plan to use GoodSync to keep the mail files the same. I use Goodsync now in that manner, except that the recipient computer runs XP; the new Win 7 computer will take the place of the XP computer. I recall seeing a reference to on-line cloning instructions, but I can't find it now. I suspect I should start by installing SeaMonkey 2.26 in the new computer, but I will hold off until I get guidance from this knowledgeable group. Help please? Thanks. MozBackup is ideal for this one. If you know the locations of your profiles on each computer (namely %APPDATA%\Mozilla\seamonkey, it's easy enough to copy the contents of the profile folder from the old machine to the new machine. However, MozBackup gives you a little easier control over the process (and options for stuff to include/exclude), and puts everything into a nice .ZIP-format archive. Thus, run MozBackup on the old computer, then copy the archive to the new computer. On the new computer, install SeaMonkey, and launch it once, so that you see the beginning of the configuration wizard. Once you have that, you can abort, because that will be enough to create profiles.ini and also create the default profile folder. From there, run MozBackup on the new machine, and recover all your data from the backup archive into the profile on the new machine. Although I'm adept enough at doing raw data transfer (including from Windows to both Linux and Mac), for Windows-to-Windows, I find MozBackup to be a little quicker and easier. For good measure, MozBackup works fine for both Firefox and Thunderbird. Plus, with a little bit of tinkering, you can get it to work for moving data in and out of portable apps profiles. Smith ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to move SeaMonkey to a new computer
On 5/24/2014 3:30 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Jay O'Brien wrote: I've been with SeaMonkey since the Netscape days, and I have installed it in many computers over the years. Due to my personal memory problems, I can't remember the details. I have a new Win 7 Pro SP1 64 bit computer into which I want to install a clone of my present Win 7 Pro SP1 64 bit installation of SeaMonkey 2.26. Once SeaMonkey is working the same in both computers, I plan to use GoodSync to keep the mail files the same. I use Goodsync now in that manner, except that the recipient computer runs XP; the new Win 7 computer will take the place of the XP computer. I recall seeing a reference to on-line cloning instructions, but I can't find it now. I suspect I should start by installing SeaMonkey 2.26 in the new computer, but I will hold off until I get guidance from this knowledgeable group. Help please? Thanks. Since you have the same OS and the same version of SM on the two computers, here's a quick and easy way of doing it. I also assume you have installed SM on both computers and have the same plugins (Flash, Acrobat, etc.) on the two computers. Locate the folder C:\Users\YourWindowsName\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\ on both computers (your Windows username may be different, doesn't matter). 1) With SM closed, rename the one on the target computer to \OldMozilla or some other distinctive name of your choosing so SeaMonkey won't notice it. 2) With SM closed, copy the one on the source computer to the target computer so it's in the same directory as \OldMozilla. SeaMonkey will see and accept the new \Mozilla. (Note that if you need to copy to a CD as an intermediate step, you will have to change the read-only property of all files in the directory back to no after you copy from the CD to the target HDD). You're done. Once you're satisfied that all is well, you can delete \OldMozilla. If it doesn't work, delete the new \Mozilla and unrename \OldMozilla back to \Mozilla, which will leave you back where you started. You may have minor glitches if your Helper Applications list points to things that don't exist on the target computer, but that's easily fixed by installing the missing apps. Paul, Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately that won't work directly for me, as I just learned. I have all of my mail files on my D drive. What is in the C:\Users\YourWindowsName\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\ folder are some 2010 empty files from when I installed SeaMonkey on the Win 7 computer and before I set up the D drive. Each of my mail accounts has a folder there with empty Inbox, Trash and msgFilterRules files. Here's what I plan to try, your comments please? First I will install SeaMonkey 2.26 on the new computer. I don't know what I will tell it as it installs, hopefully it will make sense as I go. Then I will copy the files as you suggested, and I will duplicate my D:\Mail folder on the new computer. Then I will go to the View settings for this account entry for each of my email accounts on the new computer and change the Server Settings Message Storage Local Directory entries to agree with the Message Storage Local directory on the working computer. Do you think this will work? Jay ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to move SeaMonkey to a new computer
On 5/25/14 12:56 PM +0900, Jay O'Brien wrote: On 5/24/2014 3:30 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Jay O'Brien wrote: I've been with SeaMonkey since the Netscape days, and I have installed it in many computers over the years. Due to my personal memory problems, I can't remember the details. I have a new Win 7 Pro SP1 64 bit computer into which I want to install a clone of my present Win 7 Pro SP1 64 bit installation of SeaMonkey 2.26. Once SeaMonkey is working the same in both computers, I plan to use GoodSync to keep the mail files the same. I use Goodsync now in that manner, except that the recipient computer runs XP; the new Win 7 computer will take the place of the XP computer. I recall seeing a reference to on-line cloning instructions, but I can't find it now. I suspect I should start by installing SeaMonkey 2.26 in the new computer, but I will hold off until I get guidance from this knowledgeable group. Help please? Thanks. Since you have the same OS and the same version of SM on the two computers, here's a quick and easy way of doing it. I also assume you have installed SM on both computers and have the same plugins (Flash, Acrobat, etc.) on the two computers. Locate the folder C:\Users\YourWindowsName\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\ on both computers (your Windows username may be different, doesn't matter). 1) With SM closed, rename the one on the target computer to \OldMozilla or some other distinctive name of your choosing so SeaMonkey won't notice it. 2) With SM closed, copy the one on the source computer to the target computer so it's in the same directory as \OldMozilla. SeaMonkey will see and accept the new \Mozilla. (Note that if you need to copy to a CD as an intermediate step, you will have to change the read-only property of all files in the directory back to no after you copy from the CD to the target HDD). You're done. Once you're satisfied that all is well, you can delete \OldMozilla. If it doesn't work, delete the new \Mozilla and unrename \OldMozilla back to \Mozilla, which will leave you back where you started. You may have minor glitches if your Helper Applications list points to things that don't exist on the target computer, but that's easily fixed by installing the missing apps. Paul, Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately that won't work directly for me, as I just learned. I have all of my mail files on my D drive. What is in the C:\Users\YourWindowsName\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\ folder are some 2010 empty files from when I installed SeaMonkey on the Win 7 computer and before I set up the D drive. Each of my mail accounts has a folder there with empty Inbox, Trash and msgFilterRules files. Here's what I plan to try, your comments please? First I will install SeaMonkey 2.26 on the new computer. I don't know what I will tell it as it installs, hopefully it will make sense as I go. Then I will copy the files as you suggested, and I will duplicate my D:\Mail folder on the new computer. Then I will go to the View settings for this account entry for each of my email accounts on the new computer and change the Server Settings Message Storage Local Directory entries to agree with the Message Storage Local directory on the working computer. Do you think this will work? Jay Since your profile files are kinda mixed up, I'd use MozBackup to backup the profile from the one machine and then restore it to the new one. It's pretty seamless. The only caveat, in my experience, is that it doesn't like backing up straight to USB flash memory, so have it backup to the HDD and then copy the profile to USB or across the network manually. -- / // Trane Francks tr...@tranefrancks.com Tokyo, Japan // Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to move SeaMonkey to a new computer
On 5/24/2014 6:28 PM, NFN Smith wrote: Jay O'Brien wrote: I've been with SeaMonkey since the Netscape days, and I have installed it in many computers over the years. Due to my personal memory problems, I can't remember the details. I have a new Win 7 Pro SP1 64 bit computer into which I want to install a clone of my present Win 7 Pro SP1 64 bit installation of SeaMonkey 2.26. Once SeaMonkey is working the same in both computers, I plan to use GoodSync to keep the mail files the same. I use Goodsync now in that manner, except that the recipient computer runs XP; the new Win 7 computer will take the place of the XP computer. I recall seeing a reference to on-line cloning instructions, but I can't find it now. I suspect I should start by installing SeaMonkey 2.26 in the new computer, but I will hold off until I get guidance from this knowledgeable group. Help please? Thanks. MozBackup is ideal for this one. If you know the locations of your profiles on each computer (namely %APPDATA%\Mozilla\seamonkey, it's easy enough to copy the contents of the profile folder from the old machine to the new machine. However, MozBackup gives you a little easier control over the process (and options for stuff to include/exclude), and puts everything into a nice .ZIP-format archive. Thus, run MozBackup on the old computer, then copy the archive to the new computer. On the new computer, install SeaMonkey, and launch it once, so that you see the beginning of the configuration wizard. Once you have that, you can abort, because that will be enough to create profiles.ini and also create the default profile folder. From there, run MozBackup on the new machine, and recover all your data from the backup archive into the profile on the new machine. Although I'm adept enough at doing raw data transfer (including from Windows to both Linux and Mac), for Windows-to-Windows, I find MozBackup to be a little quicker and easier. For good measure, MozBackup works fine for both Firefox and Thunderbird. Plus, with a little bit of tinkering, you can get it to work for moving data in and out of portable apps profiles. Smith Thank you! That's another completely different process than that I plan to try first, see my response to Paul earlier. Will MozBackup work with my setup, mail files on a drive other than the C drive? If so, perhaps I should install it and run it on a regular basis. Jay ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to move SeaMonkey to a new computer
On 5/25/14 1:11 PM +0900, Jay O'Brien wrote: On 5/24/2014 6:28 PM, NFN Smith wrote: Jay O'Brien wrote: I've been with SeaMonkey since the Netscape days, and I have installed it in many computers over the years. Due to my personal memory problems, I can't remember the details. I have a new Win 7 Pro SP1 64 bit computer into which I want to install a clone of my present Win 7 Pro SP1 64 bit installation of SeaMonkey 2.26. Once SeaMonkey is working the same in both computers, I plan to use GoodSync to keep the mail files the same. I use Goodsync now in that manner, except that the recipient computer runs XP; the new Win 7 computer will take the place of the XP computer. I recall seeing a reference to on-line cloning instructions, but I can't find it now. I suspect I should start by installing SeaMonkey 2.26 in the new computer, but I will hold off until I get guidance from this knowledgeable group. Help please? Thanks. MozBackup is ideal for this one. If you know the locations of your profiles on each computer (namely %APPDATA%\Mozilla\seamonkey, it's easy enough to copy the contents of the profile folder from the old machine to the new machine. However, MozBackup gives you a little easier control over the process (and options for stuff to include/exclude), and puts everything into a nice .ZIP-format archive. Thus, run MozBackup on the old computer, then copy the archive to the new computer. On the new computer, install SeaMonkey, and launch it once, so that you see the beginning of the configuration wizard. Once you have that, you can abort, because that will be enough to create profiles.ini and also create the default profile folder. From there, run MozBackup on the new machine, and recover all your data from the backup archive into the profile on the new machine. Although I'm adept enough at doing raw data transfer (including from Windows to both Linux and Mac), for Windows-to-Windows, I find MozBackup to be a little quicker and easier. For good measure, MozBackup works fine for both Firefox and Thunderbird. Plus, with a little bit of tinkering, you can get it to work for moving data in and out of portable apps profiles. Smith Thank you! That's another completely different process than that I plan to try first, see my response to Paul earlier. Will MozBackup work with my setup, mail files on a drive other than the C drive? If so, perhaps I should install it and run it on a regular basis. Jay MozBackup reads the profile structure from the profile itself, so it has no problem collecting stuff in the backup. With regard to restoring, I'm unsure of how that would work should your new computer not have the same drives available. It's not a time-consuming issue to experiment, though. As for backups in general, MozBackup is NOT a computer backup strategy and should not be treated as such. You should be doing proper system-wide backups from which restores can be done. Windows has capable tools for administering this task. -- / // Trane Francks tr...@tranefrancks.com Tokyo, Japan // Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
