Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon! / SeaMonkey 2.49.2 Is Released!

2018-02-15 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

Ewong didn't sound hopeful.

Linux i686 and osx downloads give a 404. Linux x64 points to a truncated file. 
Website still has some problems which will hopefully be ironed out tomorrow.


Pick them from here:
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.49.2/

And the Linux x64 from here:
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.49.2/linux-x86_64/en-US/


FRG

Ant wrote:

No internal updaters again?

On 2/15/2018 2:09 PM, Lloyd Frazier wrote:

SeaMonkey 2.49.2 Is Released!

February 15, 2018

SeaMonkey 2.49.2 is released, and I just loaded SeaMonkey 2.49.2, over 
SeaMonkey 2.49.1, and SeaMonkey 2.49.2 loaded correctly!  I am operating on 
Microsoft Windows 10 Home, with all current updates, running with 16 GB of 
Installed Memory (RAM), operating on an Intel Core i7 processor.


Best wishes,

Lloyd

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Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 1:45 PM
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2.49.2 is out. The webserver hasn't updated the news section yet but the 
release notes already made it:


https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

Unfortunately osx and Linux i686 download links seem to be broken right now. 
I alerted ewong but he is probably sound asleep now so it will take some time.

If you want the release you can get it from here:

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.49.2/

Please read the release notes if you have problems with Stylish or themes.

FRG

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

If 2.57a1 then no Bookmark Manager, no mail, no news, no sidebar and
no help currently too. Stick with 2.49.x for now.

If you need it the candidate is probably the final:

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/candidates/2.49.2-candidates
/build1/

It just needs to be verified and move to release. There is a 0.01%
chance that one of the final steps fails in such a way that a new
build is needed but even then it would be working fine until a build 2 is 
finished.


FRG

Luis wrote:

If urgent go to Nightly. Last is 2.57a1

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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon! / SeaMonkey 2.49.2 Is Released!

2018-02-15 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey
Darn. Oh well. Release notes said no internal updaters again: 
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.2/ ... :(


I just used the full files from 
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.49.2/. So far, no problems.



On 2/15/2018 2:46 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Ewong didn't sound hopeful.

Linux i686 and osx downloads give a 404. Linux x64 points to a truncated 
file. Website still has some problems which will hopefully be ironed out 
tomorrow.


Pick them from here:
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.49.2/

And the Linux x64 from here:
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.49.2/linux-x86_64/en-US/ 




FRG

Ant wrote:

No internal updaters again?

On 2/15/2018 2:09 PM, Lloyd Frazier wrote:

SeaMonkey 2.49.2 Is Released!

February 15, 2018

SeaMonkey 2.49.2 is released, and I just loaded SeaMonkey 2.49.2, 
over SeaMonkey 2.49.1, and SeaMonkey 2.49.2 loaded correctly!  I am 
operating on Microsoft Windows 10 Home, with all current updates, 
running with 16 GB of Installed Memory (RAM), operating on an Intel 
Core i7 processor.


Best wishes,

Lloyd

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From: support-seamonkey 
[mailto:support-seamonkey-bounces+lfftx=outlook@lists.mozilla.org] On 
Behalf Of Frank-Rainer Grahl

Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 1:45 PM
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2.49.2 is out. The webserver hasn't updated the news section yet but 
the release notes already made it:


https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

Unfortunately osx and Linux i686 download links seem to be broken 
right now. I alerted ewong but he is probably sound asleep now so it 
will take some time.

If you want the release you can get it from here:

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.49.2/

Please read the release notes if you have problems with Stylish or 
themes.


FRG

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

If 2.57a1 then no Bookmark Manager, no mail, no news, no sidebar and
no help currently too. Stick with 2.49.x for now.

If you need it the candidate is probably the final:

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/candidates/2.49.2-candidates
/build1/

It just needs to be verified and move to release. There is a 0.01%
chance that one of the final steps fails in such a way that a new
build is needed but even then it would be working fine until a build 
2 is finished.


FRG

Luis wrote:

If urgent go to Nightly. Last is 2.57a1



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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon! / SeaMonkey 2.49.2 Is Released!

2018-02-15 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey

No internal updaters again?

On 2/15/2018 2:09 PM, Lloyd Frazier wrote:

SeaMonkey 2.49.2 Is Released!

February 15, 2018

SeaMonkey 2.49.2 is released, and I just loaded SeaMonkey 2.49.2, over 
SeaMonkey 2.49.1, and SeaMonkey 2.49.2 loaded correctly!  I am operating on 
Microsoft Windows 10 Home, with all current updates, running with 16 GB of 
Installed Memory (RAM), operating on an Intel Core i7 processor.

Best wishes,

Lloyd

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From: support-seamonkey 
[mailto:support-seamonkey-bounces+lfftx=outlook@lists.mozilla.org] On 
Behalf Of Frank-Rainer Grahl
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 1:45 PM
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2.49.2 is out. The webserver hasn't updated the news section yet but the 
release notes already made it:

https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

Unfortunately osx and Linux i686 download links seem to be broken right now. I 
alerted ewong but he is probably sound asleep now so it will take some time.
If you want the release you can get it from here:

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.49.2/

Please read the release notes if you have problems with Stylish or themes.

FRG

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

If 2.57a1 then no Bookmark Manager, no mail, no news, no sidebar and
no help currently too. Stick with 2.49.x for now.

If you need it the candidate is probably the final:

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/candidates/2.49.2-candidates
/build1/

It just needs to be verified and move to release. There is a 0.01%
chance that one of the final steps fails in such a way that a new
build is needed but even then it would be working fine until a build 2 is 
finished.

FRG

Luis wrote:

If urgent go to Nightly. Last is 2.57a1

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It's out now! Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2018-02-15 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey

Thanks! No internal updaters again? :(

On 2/15/2018 11:44 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
2.49.2 is out. The webserver hasn't updated the news section yet but the 
release notes already made it:


https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

Unfortunately osx and Linux i686 download links seem to be broken right 
now. I alerted ewong but he is probably sound asleep now so it will take 
some time. If you want the release you can get it from here:


https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.49.2/

Please read the release notes if you have problems with Stylish or themes.

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RE: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon! / SeaMonkey 2.49.2 Is Released!

2018-02-15 Thread Lloyd Frazier
SeaMonkey 2.49.2 Is Released!

February 15, 2018

SeaMonkey 2.49.2 is released, and I just loaded SeaMonkey 2.49.2, over 
SeaMonkey 2.49.1, and SeaMonkey 2.49.2 loaded correctly!  I am operating on 
Microsoft Windows 10 Home, with all current updates, running with 16 GB of 
Installed Memory (RAM), operating on an Intel Core i7 processor.

Best wishes,

Lloyd

-Original Message-
From: support-seamonkey 
[mailto:support-seamonkey-bounces+lfftx=outlook@lists.mozilla.org] On 
Behalf Of Frank-Rainer Grahl
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 1:45 PM
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2.49.2 is out. The webserver hasn't updated the news section yet but the 
release notes already made it:

https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

Unfortunately osx and Linux i686 download links seem to be broken right now. I 
alerted ewong but he is probably sound asleep now so it will take some time. 
If you want the release you can get it from here:

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.49.2/

Please read the release notes if you have problems with Stylish or themes.

FRG

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
> If 2.57a1 then no Bookmark Manager, no mail, no news, no sidebar and 
> no help currently too. Stick with 2.49.x for now.
> 
> If you need it the candidate is probably the final:
> 
> https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/candidates/2.49.2-candidates
> /build1/
> 
> It just needs to be verified and move to release. There is a 0.01% 
> chance that one of the final steps fails in such a way that a new 
> build is needed but even then it would be working fine until a build 2 is 
> finished.
> 
> FRG
> 
> Luis wrote:
>> If urgent go to Nightly. Last is 2.57a1
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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2018-02-15 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl
2.49.2 is out. The webserver hasn't updated the news section yet but the 
release notes already made it:


https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

Unfortunately osx and Linux i686 download links seem to be broken right now. I 
alerted ewong but he is probably sound asleep now so it will take some time. 
If you want the release you can get it from here:


https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.49.2/

Please read the release notes if you have problems with Stylish or themes.

FRG

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
If 2.57a1 then no Bookmark Manager, no mail, no news, no sidebar and no help 
currently too. Stick with 2.49.x for now.


If you need it the candidate is probably the final:

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/candidates/2.49.2-candidates/build1/

It just needs to be verified and move to release. There is a 0.01% chance that 
one of the final steps fails in such a way that a new build is needed but even 
then it would be working fine until a build 2 is finished.


FRG

Luis wrote:

If urgent go to Nightly. Last is 2.57a1

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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2018-02-14 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey

On 2/13/2018 9:56 PM, Daniel wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 2/13/18 9:55 PM, Daniel wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 2/11/2018 8:03 PM, Ant wrote:

On 2/7/2018 9:13 PM, Ant wrote:

On 2/5/2018 8:30 PM, Ant wrote:
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/06/quick-update/ and 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/05/next-release-is-2-49-2-and/ 





Delayed due to issues: 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/08/murphy-is-a-very-very-bad-person/ 





Maybe tomorrow or Tuesday according to 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/12/monday-definitely-monday/. 
;)


Delayed again. 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/14/not-monday-nor-tuesday/ ... 
Let's just say when it's done. :P


When it is ready ... it will be ready!! ;-)


Well said!!


  ... but we will all want more!! ... and quicker, too! ;-)


And more bugs with this rush and demands? :-P
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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2018-02-14 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl
If 2.57a1 then no Bookmark Manager, no mail, no news, no sidebar and no help 
currently too. Stick with 2.49.x for now.


If you need it the candidate is probably the final:

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/candidates/2.49.2-candidates/build1/

It just needs to be verified and move to release. There is a 0.01% chance that 
one of the final steps fails in such a way that a new build is needed but even 
then it would be working fine until a build 2 is finished.


FRG

Luis wrote:

If urgent go to Nightly. Last is 2.57a1

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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2018-02-14 Thread Luis

Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote on 14-02-18 02:49:

On 2/11/2018 8:03 PM, Ant wrote:

On 2/7/2018 9:13 PM, Ant wrote:

On 2/5/2018 8:30 PM, Ant wrote:
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/06/quick-update/ and 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/05/next-release-is-2-49-2-and/ 



Delayed due to issues: 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/08/murphy-is-a-very-very-bad-person/ 





Maybe tomorrow or Tuesday according to 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/12/monday-definitely-monday/. 
;)


Delayed again. 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/14/not-monday-nor-tuesday/ 
... Let's just say when it's done. :P

Why did you need the latest version as soon as it is published ?
Is it URGENT ? :-)

If urgent go to Nightly. Last is 2.57a1
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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2018-02-13 Thread Ray_Net

Ant wrote on 14-02-18 02:49:

On 2/11/2018 8:03 PM, Ant wrote:

On 2/7/2018 9:13 PM, Ant wrote:

On 2/5/2018 8:30 PM, Ant wrote:
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/06/quick-update/ and 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/05/next-release-is-2-49-2-and/ 



Delayed due to issues: 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/08/murphy-is-a-very-very-bad-person/ 




Maybe tomorrow or Tuesday according to 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/12/monday-definitely-monday/. 
;)


Delayed again. 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/14/not-monday-nor-tuesday/ 
... Let's just say when it's done. :P

Why did you need the latest version as soon as it is published ?
Is it URGENT ? :-)
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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2018-02-13 Thread Daniel

WaltS48 wrote:

On 2/13/18 9:55 PM, Daniel wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 2/11/2018 8:03 PM, Ant wrote:

On 2/7/2018 9:13 PM, Ant wrote:

On 2/5/2018 8:30 PM, Ant wrote:
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/06/quick-update/ and 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/05/next-release-is-2-49-2-and/ 




Delayed due to issues: 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/08/murphy-is-a-very-very-bad-person/ 




Maybe tomorrow or Tuesday according to 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/12/monday-definitely-monday/. 
;)


Delayed again. 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/14/not-monday-nor-tuesday/ 
... Let's just say when it's done. :P


When it is ready ... it will be ready!! ;-)


Well said!!


 ... but we will all want more!! ... and quicker, too! ;-)

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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2018-02-13 Thread WaltS48

On 2/13/18 9:55 PM, Daniel wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 2/11/2018 8:03 PM, Ant wrote:

On 2/7/2018 9:13 PM, Ant wrote:

On 2/5/2018 8:30 PM, Ant wrote:
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/06/quick-update/ and 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/05/next-release-is-2-49-2-and/ 



Delayed due to issues: 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/08/murphy-is-a-very-very-bad-person/ 



Maybe tomorrow or Tuesday according to 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/12/monday-definitely-monday/. 
;)


Delayed again. 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/14/not-monday-nor-tuesday/ 
... Let's just say when it's done. :P


When it is ready ... it will be ready!! ;-)



Well said!!

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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2018-02-13 Thread Daniel

Ant wrote:

On 2/11/2018 8:03 PM, Ant wrote:

On 2/7/2018 9:13 PM, Ant wrote:

On 2/5/2018 8:30 PM, Ant wrote:
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/06/quick-update/ and 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/05/next-release-is-2-49-2-and/ 


Delayed due to issues: 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/08/murphy-is-a-very-very-bad-person/ 


Maybe tomorrow or Tuesday according to 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/12/monday-definitely-monday/. 
;)


Delayed again. 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/14/not-monday-nor-tuesday/ 
... Let's just say when it's done. :P


When it is ready ... it will be ready!! ;-)

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SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418


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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2018-02-13 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey

On 2/11/2018 8:03 PM, Ant wrote:

On 2/7/2018 9:13 PM, Ant wrote:

On 2/5/2018 8:30 PM, Ant wrote:
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/06/quick-update/ and 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/05/next-release-is-2-49-2-and/ 



Delayed due to issues: 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/08/murphy-is-a-very-very-bad-person/ 



Maybe tomorrow or Tuesday according to 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/12/monday-definitely-monday/. ;)


Delayed again. 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/14/not-monday-nor-tuesday/ 
... Let's just say when it's done. :P

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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2018-02-12 Thread Arnie Goetchius
WaltS48 wrote:
> On 2/12/18 8:12 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
>> Ant wrote:
>>> On 2/7/2018 9:13 PM, Ant wrote:
 On 2/5/2018 8:30 PM, Ant wrote:
> https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/06/quick-update/ and
> https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/05/next-release-is-2-49-2-and/
 Delayed due to issues:
 https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/08/murphy-is-a-very-very-bad-person/
>>> Maybe tomorrow or Tuesday according to
>>> https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/12/monday-definitely-monday/. ;)
>> Sorry but I don't remember: Do I get a choice as to whether or not to accept 
>> the latest version?
> 
> 
> You sure do If updates are still broken.
> 
> You have been around long enough to know that you can disable automatic 
> updates in Preferences >
> Advanced > Software Installation. No?
> 
Yes I have been around "long enough" but getting well into my ninth decade, I 
tend to forget stuff.
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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2018-02-12 Thread WaltS48

On 2/12/18 8:12 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 2/7/2018 9:13 PM, Ant wrote:

On 2/5/2018 8:30 PM, Ant wrote:

https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/06/quick-update/ and
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/05/next-release-is-2-49-2-and/

Delayed due to issues:
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/08/murphy-is-a-very-very-bad-person/

Maybe tomorrow or Tuesday according to
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/12/monday-definitely-monday/. ;)

Sorry but I don't remember: Do I get a choice as to whether or not to accept 
the latest version?



You sure do If updates are still broken.

You have been around long enough to know that you can disable automatic 
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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2018-02-12 Thread Arnie Goetchius
Ant wrote:
> On 2/7/2018 9:13 PM, Ant wrote:
>> On 2/5/2018 8:30 PM, Ant wrote:
>>> https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/06/quick-update/ and
>>> https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/05/next-release-is-2-49-2-and/
>>
>> Delayed due to issues:
>> https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/08/murphy-is-a-very-very-bad-person/
>>  
> 
> Maybe tomorrow or Tuesday according to
> https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/12/monday-definitely-monday/. ;)
Sorry but I don't remember: Do I get a choice as to whether or not to accept 
the latest version?
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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2018-02-11 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey

On 2/7/2018 9:13 PM, Ant wrote:

On 2/5/2018 8:30 PM, Ant wrote:
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/06/quick-update/ and 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/05/next-release-is-2-49-2-and/


Delayed due to issues: 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/08/murphy-is-a-very-very-bad-person/ 


Maybe tomorrow or Tuesday according to 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/12/monday-definitely-monday/. ;)

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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2018-02-08 Thread Daniel

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
There is currently no Beta planned.  We might do a 2.53 later to test 
new features but for now stick with the 2.49.x line. The latest 
comm-central builds are unusable and we are still playing catch up 
(probably for the whole year).


ewong isn't sure if can make upgrades working for 2.49.2. It sounds like 
a trivial issue but isn't because of the servers and internal Mozilla 
systems involved. So you might need to download the complete installer 
again. You can install the mar update manually but I did this once and 
didn't find it worth it.


FRG


O.K., once again, thanks for all your efforts, Frank-Rainer, both you 
and the rest of the Dev team!!


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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2018-02-08 Thread Ray_Net

Ed Mullen wrote on 08-02-18 15:47:

On 2/8/2018 at 5:34 AM, meagain created this epitome of digital genius:

 Original Message 

Ant wrote:
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/06/quick-update/ and 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/05/next-release-is-2-49-2-and/ 



Humm!! Should we be worried that Ewong twice mentions "touch 
wood"?!? ;-P




Ewong, the American English idiom is "knock on wood" - is that what 
you meant?


Actually, both of those are American idioms.


In french we used "Toucher du bois" = "Touch some wood"
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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2018-02-08 Thread Ed Mullen

On 2/8/2018 at 5:34 AM, meagain created this epitome of digital genius:

 Original Message 

Ant wrote:
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/06/quick-update/ and 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/05/next-release-is-2-49-2-and/ 



Humm!! Should we be worried that Ewong twice mentions "touch wood"?!? ;-P



Ewong, the American English idiom is "knock on wood" - is that what you 
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Actually, both of those are American idioms.

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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2018-02-08 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl
There is currently no Beta planned.  We might do a 2.53 later to test new 
features but for now stick with the 2.49.x line. The latest comm-central 
builds are unusable and we are still playing catch up (probably for the whole 
year).


ewong isn't sure if can make upgrades working for 2.49.2. It sounds like a 
trivial issue but isn't because of the servers and internal Mozilla systems 
involved. So you might need to download the complete installer again. You can 
install the mar update manually but I did this once and didn't find it worth it.


FRG

Daniel wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
The release is done and just stuck a little in post processing. So I think 
we don't need to worry much. Not sure if updates can be enabled this time 
but we will see.


Have fun
FRG


FRG, a couple of questions 

1. Some time ago, I used to use the Beta versions of SeaMonkey to do my 
little bit (testing) to help you Devs out. Are Beta versions still released?? 
... and if so, where do I get them from??


2.    Will these be "updates", i.e. a little bit of programming (a couple of 
MB, maybe.) to be incorporated into the already installed program, or will it 
be a complete download (50MB or so!)??




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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2018-02-08 Thread Daniel

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
The release is done and just stuck a little in post processing. So I 
think we don't need to worry much. Not sure if updates can be enabled 
this time but we will see.


Have fun
FRG


FRG, a couple of questions 

1.	 Some time ago, I used to use the Beta versions of SeaMonkey to do my 
little bit (testing) to help you Devs out. Are Beta versions still 
released?? ... and if so, where do I get them from??


2.	Will these be "updates", i.e. a little bit of programming (a couple 
of MB, maybe.) to be incorporated into the already installed program, or 
will it be a complete download (50MB or so!)??



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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2018-02-08 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl
The release is done and just stuck a little in post processing. So I think we 
don't need to worry much. Not sure if updates can be enabled this time but we 
will see.


Have fun
FRG

meagain wrote:

 Original Message 

Ant wrote:
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/06/quick-update/ and 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/05/next-release-is-2-49-2-and/


Humm!! Should we be worried that Ewong twice mentions "touch wood"?!? ;-P



Ewong, the American English idiom is "knock on wood" - is that what you meant?

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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2018-02-08 Thread meagain

 Original Message 

Ant wrote:
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/06/quick-update/ and 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/05/next-release-is-2-49-2-and/


Humm!! Should we be worried that Ewong twice mentions "touch wood"?!? ;-P



Ewong, the American English idiom is "knock on wood" - is that what you 
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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2018-02-08 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey

Tue, 6 Feb 2018 14:46:44 +0100, _Frank-Rainer Grahl_:


Might be because of
Bug 1411708 - port relevant hunks of bug 1035091 [limit @-moz-document 
to user and UA sheets]


Funny:


You are not authorized to access bug 1411708.


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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2018-02-08 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey

Tue, 6 Feb 2018 14:47:42 +0100, _Frank-Rainer Grahl_:


Try layout.css.moz-document.content.enabled true


That one did it – thank you very much!

– Stanimir



Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:


Might be because of
Bug 1411708 - port relevant hunks of bug 1035091 [limit @-moz-document 
to user and UA sheets]


but not familiar with it.


Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Tue, 6 Feb 2018 16:02:49 +1100, _Daniel_:

Ant wrote:


https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/06/quick-update/ and
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/05/next-release-is-2-49-2-and/


Humm!! Should we be worried that Ewong twice mentions "touch 
wood"?!? ;-P


For some reason Stylish 2.1.1 [1] doesn't appear to work with SM 
2.49.2 – styles don't get applied, while all of its UI is present and 
operational.  Works just fine with SM 2.49.1.  Haven't observed 
problems with other extensions, so far.


[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/stylish/versions/2.1.1

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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2018-02-07 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey

On 2/5/2018 8:30 PM, Ant wrote:
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/06/quick-update/ and 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/05/next-release-is-2-49-2-and/


Delayed due to issues: 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/08/murphy-is-a-very-very-bad-person/

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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2018-02-07 Thread Luis Carlos González Moráles


Edmund Wong wrote:
> Luis Carlos González Moráles wrote:
>> If web addons have to be implemented, could that veresion be SeaMonkey 3?
> If you mean WebExtensions as a SeaMonkey 3.0, that is definitely
> a possibility.
>
>> OK, Maybe I'll wait for that version, in case I haven't talked about it.

>> The 2.x versions have like 9 or so years that are developed:
>> I'm a blind user, so advanced things to me didn't affect me.
>> So what happen to the development?, Com on, sea monkey, com on!
> Well, we're playing catchup with the changing code within the
> Gecko codebase and since we only have like a handful of
> developers working on it, it is difficult to keep up.
>
> Oh sad. I don't want this beautyfull project to sece. I want it alive and 
> well...

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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2018-02-06 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey

On 2/6/2018 1:47 AM, Wolf wrote:

Ant schrieb:
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/06/quick-update/ and 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/05/next-release-is-2-49-2-and/


Isn't that great? New year, new hope, SeaMonkey is still alive.
Thanks Ant


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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2018-02-06 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

Try layout.css.moz-document.content.enabled true

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Might be because of
Bug 1411708 - port relevant hunks of bug 1035091 [limit @-moz-document to user 
and UA sheets]


but not familiar with it.

FRG

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Tue, 6 Feb 2018 16:02:49 +1100, _Daniel_:

Ant wrote:

https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/06/quick-update/ and 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/05/next-release-is-2-49-2-and/


Humm!! Should we be worried that Ewong twice mentions "touch wood"?!? ;-P


For some reason Stylish 2.1.1 [1] doesn't appear to work with SM 2.49.2 – 
styles don't get applied, while all of its UI is present and operational. 
Works just fine with SM 2.49.1.  Haven't observed problems with other 
extensions, so far.


[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/stylish/versions/2.1.1


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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2018-02-06 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

Might be because of
Bug 1411708 - port relevant hunks of bug 1035091 [limit @-moz-document to user 
and UA sheets]


but not familiar with it.

FRG

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Tue, 6 Feb 2018 16:02:49 +1100, _Daniel_:

Ant wrote:

https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/06/quick-update/ and 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/05/next-release-is-2-49-2-and/


Humm!! Should we be worried that Ewong twice mentions "touch wood"?!? ;-P


For some reason Stylish 2.1.1 [1] doesn't appear to work with SM 2.49.2 – 
styles don't get applied, while all of its UI is present and operational.  
Works just fine with SM 2.49.1.  Haven't observed problems with other 
extensions, so far.


[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/stylish/versions/2.1.1


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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2018-02-06 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey

Tue, 6 Feb 2018 16:02:49 +1100, _Daniel_:

Ant wrote:

https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/06/quick-update/ and 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/05/next-release-is-2-49-2-and/


Humm!! Should we be worried that Ewong twice mentions "touch wood"?!? ;-P


For some reason Stylish 2.1.1 [1] doesn't appear to work with SM 2.49.2 
– styles don't get applied, while all of its UI is present and 
operational.  Works just fine with SM 2.49.1.  Haven't observed problems 
with other extensions, so far.


[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/stylish/versions/2.1.1

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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2018-02-06 Thread Edmund Wong
Luis Carlos González Moráles wrote:
> If web addons have to be implemented, could that veresion be SeaMonkey 3?

If you mean WebExtensions as a SeaMonkey 3.0, that is definitely
a possibility.

> The 2.x versions have like 9 or so years that are developed:
> I'm a blind user, so advanced things to me didn't affect me.
> So what happen to the development?, Com on, sea monkey, com on!

Well, we're playing catchup with the changing code within the
Gecko codebase and since we only have like a handful of
developers working on it, it is difficult to keep up.

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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2018-02-06 Thread Wolf

Ant schrieb:
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/06/quick-update/ and 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/05/next-release-is-2-49-2-and/


Isn't that great? New year, new hope, SeaMonkey is still alive.
Thanks Ant

Regards
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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2018-02-06 Thread Luis Carlos González Moráles
If web addons have to be implemented, could that veresion be SeaMonkey 3?
The 2.x versions have like 9 or so years that are developed:
I'm a blind user, so advanced things to me didn't affect me.
So what happen to the development?, Com on, sea monkey, com on!
Edmund Wong wrote:
> Daniel wrote:
>> Ant wrote:
>>> https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/06/quick-update/ and
>>> https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/05/next-release-is-2-49-2-and/
>> Humm!! Should we be worried that Ewong twice mentions "touch wood"?!? ;-P
>>
> Well...  I'm always a skeptic when it comes to smooth sailing releases
> as I know, Murphy is *always* on the prowl.
>
> But yeah.. cynical skeptic... that's me.
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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2018-02-06 Thread Edmund Wong
Daniel wrote:
> Ant wrote:
>> https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/06/quick-update/ and
>> https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/05/next-release-is-2-49-2-and/
> 
> Humm!! Should we be worried that Ewong twice mentions "touch wood"?!? ;-P
> 
Well...  I'm always a skeptic when it comes to smooth sailing releases
as I know, Murphy is *always* on the prowl.

But yeah.. cynical skeptic... that's me.

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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2018-02-06 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

> But when the demise of userChrome.css and userContent.css happens, I'm outta
> here.

It will probably happen faster in Firefox either by neglect or by design. We 
could always try to load user js or css during startup.


Windows candidates are also now mostly there. Looks like I need to do the 
release notes faster than planned. Knock on wood #2.


FRG


Ed Mullen wrote:

On 2/6/2018 at 12:02 AM, Daniel created this epitome of digital genius:

Ant wrote:
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/06/quick-update/ and 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/05/next-release-is-2-49-2-and/


Humm!! Should we be worried that Ewong twice mentions "touch wood"?!? ;-P



LOL.  No, this "project" has always been that way.

But when the demise of userChrome.css and userContent.css happens, I'm outta 
here.



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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2018-02-06 Thread Ed Mullen

On 2/6/2018 at 12:02 AM, Daniel created this epitome of digital genius:

Ant wrote:
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/06/quick-update/ and 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/05/next-release-is-2-49-2-and/


Humm!! Should we be worried that Ewong twice mentions "touch wood"?!? ;-P



LOL.  No, this "project" has always been that way.

But when the demise of userChrome.css and userContent.css happens, I'm 
outta here.


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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

2018-02-05 Thread Daniel

Ant wrote:
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/06/quick-update/ and 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/05/next-release-is-2-49-2-and/


Humm!! Should we be worried that Ewong twice mentions "touch wood"?!? ;-P

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