Re: Separate post: please help, I want to go back to an earlier version of SM

2011-07-27 Thread DrSlider
Anyone else have any experience with this? Losing my browsing history is no big 
deal. Having to reconstruct my passwords file is a very big deal. 

Love the Philip Taylor sig, but I have to disagree with dsavitsk on the 4x3 
screens. Widescreen is much better IMHO. There are a lot of old guys here, it 
seems, and I am one of them!

 Philip Taylor. who understands the the world must move on philosophy,
 but who nonetheless finds Windows/XP, Classic View, Office 2003
 and so on infinitely more user friendly than any of the more recent
 developments).

And 4x3 screens on laptops!
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Re: Separate post: please help, I want to go back to an earlier version of SM

2011-07-27 Thread Ken

DrSlider wrote:

Anyone else have any experience with this? Losing my browsing history is no big 
deal. Having to reconstruct my passwords file is a very big deal.

Love the Philip Taylor sig, but I have to disagree with dsavitsk on the 4x3 
screens. Widescreen is much better IMHO. There are a lot of old guys here, it 
seems, and I am one of them!


Philip Taylor. who understands the the world must move on philosophy,
but who nonetheless finds Windows/XP, Classic View, Office 2003
and so on infinitely more user friendly than any of the more recent
developments).



And 4x3 screens on laptops!


As I reported earlier, I used my computer's System Restore function to 
go back one week to the SM 2.0.11 I had before my foolish consenting to 
install ('Click here.  Faster than ever!') SM 2.2.


Everything was pretty much as before, with no loss of data.  At first, 
SM 2.0.11 wouldn't open, but an additional reboot fixed that.


You mention your passwords file.  Hmm.  Twice I have posted here that I 
use something called RoboForm Pro (which doesn't support SM 2.2), and 
asked about alternatives.  No responses.  I'm pretty sure that RoboForm 
Pro was originally recommended to me by someone on this site, many years 
ago.  I gather that Password Manager just lists passwords and doesn't 
actually fill them in automatically (with a single click) for a given 
site, which is what RoboForm Pro does.  I have never actually used it.


- Ken (in Oz)
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Re: Separate post: please help, I want to go back to an earlier version of SM

2011-07-27 Thread WLS

Ken wrote:

DrSlider wrote:

Anyone else have any experience with this? Losing my browsing history
is no big deal. Having to reconstruct my passwords file is a very big
deal.

Love the Philip Taylor sig, but I have to disagree with dsavitsk on
the 4x3 screens. Widescreen is much better IMHO. There are a lot of
old guys here, it seems, and I am one of them!


Philip Taylor. who understands the the world must move on philosophy,
but who nonetheless finds Windows/XP, Classic View, Office 2003
and so on infinitely more user friendly than any of the more recent
developments).



And 4x3 screens on laptops!


As I reported earlier, I used my computer's System Restore function to
go back one week to the SM 2.0.11 I had before my foolish consenting to
install ('Click here. Faster than ever!') SM 2.2.

Everything was pretty much as before, with no loss of data. At first, SM
2.0.11 wouldn't open, but an additional reboot fixed that.

You mention your passwords file. Hmm. Twice I have posted here that I
use something called RoboForm Pro (which doesn't support SM 2.2), and
asked about alternatives. No responses. I'm pretty sure that RoboForm
Pro was originally recommended to me by someone on this site, many years
ago. I gather that Password Manager just lists passwords and doesn't
actually fill them in automatically (with a single click) for a given
site, which is what RoboForm Pro does. I have never actually used it.

- Ken (in Oz)


You might want to update to SeaMonkey 2.0.14 to fix the security 
vulnerabilities found in 2.0.11, 2.0.12 and 2.0.14.


http://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/seamonkey20.html


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Re: Separate post: please help, I want to go back to an earlier version of SM

2011-07-27 Thread Robert Kaiser

Ken schrieb:

I gather that Password Manager just lists passwords and doesn't
actually fill them in automatically


You gather wrong.

Robert Kaiser


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Re: Separate post: please help, I want to go back to an earlier version of SM

2011-07-27 Thread WLS

WLS wrote:

Ken wrote:

DrSlider wrote:

Anyone else have any experience with this? Losing my browsing history
is no big deal. Having to reconstruct my passwords file is a very big
deal.

Love the Philip Taylor sig, but I have to disagree with dsavitsk on
the 4x3 screens. Widescreen is much better IMHO. There are a lot of
old guys here, it seems, and I am one of them!


Philip Taylor. who understands the the world must move on
philosophy,
but who nonetheless finds Windows/XP, Classic View, Office 2003
and so on infinitely more user friendly than any of the more recent
developments).



And 4x3 screens on laptops!


As I reported earlier, I used my computer's System Restore function to
go back one week to the SM 2.0.11 I had before my foolish consenting to
install ('Click here. Faster than ever!') SM 2.2.

Everything was pretty much as before, with no loss of data. At first, SM
2.0.11 wouldn't open, but an additional reboot fixed that.

You mention your passwords file. Hmm. Twice I have posted here that I
use something called RoboForm Pro (which doesn't support SM 2.2), and
asked about alternatives. No responses. I'm pretty sure that RoboForm
Pro was originally recommended to me by someone on this site, many years
ago. I gather that Password Manager just lists passwords and doesn't
actually fill them in automatically (with a single click) for a given
site, which is what RoboForm Pro does. I have never actually used it.

- Ken (in Oz)


You might want to update to SeaMonkey 2.0.14 to fix the security
vulnerabilities found in 2.0.11, 2.0.12 and 2.0.14.

http://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/seamonkey20.html




Oops! I meant 2.0.13.

Danke Phil :)

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Re: Separate post: please help, I want to go back to an earlier version of SM

2011-07-24 Thread WLS

W3BNR wrote:

On 7/23/2011 5:17 PM PhillipJones submitted the following:

Rufus wrote:

Personally, I'll champion the 1.1.x series because even though I didn't
use the Forms Manager there were enough people here who did to make it
seem a very desired feature. 2.0.14 is working just fine for me...I'll
be sticking with it.



I agree. But if you have to go to 2 series. the 2.0.x is best version
of the two
series ever put out. 2.1 on you go down hill fast. Kills addons and Kill
plugins. 2.2 I tried and only 4 helper files were listed. Before then
the were
30-35 helper files listed.



I'm one of the few that seems to have no problems with 2.2. Other than
know bugs that have been around for some time, i.e. no space after
smilies, etc.


How few, out of the 82976 active users of all versions of SeaMonkey 
yesterday.


42964 being 2.0.14
3205 being 2.1
26381 being 2.2

The rest being older and newer versions.

I also have no problems with SM 2.2, had only a couple crashes with 
2.4a2, which I was one of the 19 active installations yesterday. If I 
read the table correctly.




As to addons that SAY they won't work. Most do with a little push from
Add-on Compatibility Reporter 0.8.7

I have the following 13 extensions that are actually working ok in 2.2
'Display Mail User Agent 1.6.6 will not work though (of course it quit
working somewhere around 1.1.13 so I'm still using 1.6.5)

Extensions (enabled: 13)
* Add-on Compatibility Reporter 0.8.7
(https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/?src=api)

* Autofill Forms 0.9.5.2 (https://blueimp.net/mozilla/)
* BetterPrivacy 1.51 (http://netticat.ath.cx/extensions.html)
* ChatZilla 0.9.87 (http://chatzilla.hacksrus.com/)
* DOM Inspector 2.0.10 (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/inspector/)
* Display Mail User Agent 1.6.5
(http://www.juergen-ernst.de/addons/dispmua.html)
* DownloadHelper 4.9.3 (http://www.downloadhelper.net)
* FireFTP 1.99.5 (http://fireftp.mozdev.org)
* JavaScript Debugger 0.9.88.2 (http://www.hacksrus.com/~ginda/venkman/)
* Password Exporter 1.2.1 (http://passwordexporter.fligtar.com)
* PrefBar 5.1.1 (http://prefbar.mozdev.org/)
* Quote Colors 0.3 (http://quotecolors.mozdev.org/)
* ShowIP 1.1 (http://code.google.com/p/firefox-showip/)



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Re: Separate post: please help, I want to go back to an earlier version of SM

2011-07-24 Thread Daniel

WLS wrote:

W3BNR wrote:

On 7/23/2011 5:17 PM PhillipJones submitted the following:

Rufus wrote:

Personally, I'll champion the 1.1.x series because even though I didn't
use the Forms Manager there were enough people here who did to make it
seem a very desired feature. 2.0.14 is working just fine for me...I'll
be sticking with it.



I agree. But if you have to go to 2 series. the 2.0.x is best version
of the two
series ever put out. 2.1 on you go down hill fast. Kills addons and Kill
plugins. 2.2 I tried and only 4 helper files were listed. Before then
the were
30-35 helper files listed.



I'm one of the few that seems to have no problems with 2.2. Other than
know bugs that have been around for some time, i.e. no space after
smilies, etc.


How few, out of the 82976 active users of all versions of SeaMonkey
yesterday.

42964 being 2.0.14
3205 being 2.1
26381 being 2.2

The rest being older and newer versions.


Where did you get these figures from, WLS??

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Re: Separate post: please help, I want to go back to an earlier version of SM

2011-07-24 Thread WLS

Daniel wrote:

WLS wrote:

W3BNR wrote:

On 7/23/2011 5:17 PM PhillipJones submitted the following:

Rufus wrote:

Personally, I'll champion the 1.1.x series because even though I
didn't
use the Forms Manager there were enough people here who did to make it
seem a very desired feature. 2.0.14 is working just fine for me...I'll
be sticking with it.



I agree. But if you have to go to 2 series. the 2.0.x is best version
of the two
series ever put out. 2.1 on you go down hill fast. Kills addons and
Kill
plugins. 2.2 I tried and only 4 helper files were listed. Before then
the were
30-35 helper files listed.



I'm one of the few that seems to have no problems with 2.2. Other than
know bugs that have been around for some time, i.e. no space after
smilies, etc.


How few, out of the 82976 active users of all versions of SeaMonkey
yesterday.

42964 being 2.0.14
3205 being 2.1
26381 being 2.2

The rest being older and newer versions.


Where did you get these figures from, WLS??



From the metrics page.

https://metrics.mozilla.com/stats/seamonkey.shtml

I think the developers do a great job considering the suite has so few 
users, compared to Firefox, which had 110405504 active installations 
yesterday.


I don't know how they get these figures and can not vouch for their 
accuracy.



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Re: Separate post: please help, I want to go back to an earlier version of SM

2011-07-24 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)



WLS wrote:


 From the metrics page.

https://metrics.mozilla.com/stats/seamonkey.shtml

I think the developers do a great job considering the suite has so few users, 
compared to Firefox, which had 110405504 active installations yesterday.

I don't know how they get these figures and can not vouch for their accuracy.


I would love to see those figures in a historical context
(that is, how the total number of Seamonkey users has varied,
and is varying, since it was first released).

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Re: Separate post: please help, I want to go back to an earlier version of SM

2011-07-23 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)

Ken --


Hi guys. I have already posted the following as an adjunct to other threads but 
got no response. I will clarify below what I am seeking:

 Looks like I can't go back to SM 2.0.18 (I think it was - but it may have 
been 2.0.11). The 'Known Issues' note for SM 2.2 is headed (in bold), 'Data loss 
warning' and continues: 'If you use a profile with this or any later version and 
then try to go back to SeaMonkey 2.0, SeaMonkey will rename your history file to 
places.sqlite.corrupt and create a new places.qlite file, effectively resetting 
your browsing history.'

 Well, I don't pretend to understand all of that, but it does seem to be 
saying that I will lose data if I try to restore the SM version I had before. No?


It would seem, from the text you cite and from the Known issues page :

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.2/#issues

that the only expected data loss is your browsing history.  Given that
most of us now operate in paranoid mode, and clear the browser history
on browser exit anyway, this does not seem to represent a serious risk.

Like you, and like some other contributors to this list since the
announcement/release of V2.2, I too feel that V2.2 has fixed far
too much that ain't broke in the first place -- incremental releases
should (IMHO) address security concerns, evolving standards such
as CSS, and similar core issues, reserving major behavioural changes
such as the new must use tabs philosophy and the no-longer-optional
installation of Chatzilla for optional major release (i.e., Seamonkey 3).

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but who nonetheless finds Windows/XP, Classic View, Office 2003
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Re: Separate post: please help, I want to go back to an earlier version of SM

2011-07-23 Thread Ken
Gratitude to Philip Taylor for his response.  Thanks, Philip.  I saw one 
of your earlier posts (I think it was yours) about unwanted tabs in SM 
2.2 and understood and sympathised completely.


Please, anyone, what earlier version of SM might you recommend as 
particularly stable?


Also - slightly off topic - can anyone tell me how to kill the box that 
opens every time I come here asking whether I want to compress my 
folders?  (My answer would be - please tell me if I'm wrong - 'No, of 
course I don't want to do that unless I'm running out of space, but with 
a new computer and a vast hard drive, that seems to me hardly likely' - 
but the box gives me no such option, i.e., to say 'No', nor does it have 
a 'Don't show me this box in the future' option.)


- Ken (in Oz)
-
Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:

Ken --


Hi guys. I have already posted the following as an adjunct to other
threads but got no response. I will clarify below what I am seeking:

Looks like I can't go back to SM 2.0.18 (I think it was - but it may
have been 2.0.11). The 'Known Issues' note for SM 2.2 is headed (in
bold), 'Data loss warning' and continues: 'If you use a profile with
this or any later version and then try to go back to SeaMonkey 2.0,
SeaMonkey will rename your history file to places.sqlite.corrupt and
create a new places.qlite file, effectively resetting your browsing
history.'

Well, I don't pretend to understand all of that, but it does seem to
be saying that I will lose data if I try to restore the SM version I
had before. No?


It would seem, from the text you cite and from the Known issues page :

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.2/#issues

that the only expected data loss is your browsing history. Given that
most of us now operate in paranoid mode, and clear the browser history
on browser exit anyway, this does not seem to represent a serious risk.

Like you, and like some other contributors to this list since the
announcement/release of V2.2, I too feel that V2.2 has fixed far
too much that ain't broke in the first place -- incremental releases
should (IMHO) address security concerns, evolving standards such
as CSS, and similar core issues, reserving major behavioural changes
such as the new must use tabs philosophy and the no-longer-optional
installation of Chatzilla for optional major release (i.e., Seamonkey 3).

Philip Taylor. who understands the the world must move on philosophy,
but who nonetheless finds Windows/XP, Classic View, Office 2003
and so on infinitely more user friendly than any of the more recent
developments).


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Re: Separate post: please help, I want to go back to an earlier version of SM

2011-07-23 Thread W3BNR

On 7/23/2011 6:54 AM Ken submitted the following:

Gratitude to Philip Taylor for his response. Thanks, Philip. I saw one of your
earlier posts (I think it was yours) about unwanted tabs in SM 2.2 and
understood and sympathised completely.

Please, anyone, what earlier version of SM might you recommend as particularly
stable?

Also - slightly off topic - can anyone tell me how to kill the box that opens
every time I come here asking whether I want to compress my folders? (My answer
would be - please tell me if I'm wrong - 'No, of course I don't want to do that
unless I'm running out of space, but with a new computer and a vast hard drive,
that seems to me hardly likely' - but the box gives me no such option, i.e., to
say 'No', nor does it have a 'Don't show me this box in the future' option.)



Try seleting  Edit/Preferences/Mail  Newsgroups/Network  Storage
and then changing the Disk Space box to a higher number.


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Re: Separate post: please help, I want to go back to an earlier version of SM

2011-07-23 Thread Lee
On 7/23/11, Ken muf...@labyrinth.net.au wrote:
 Gratitude to Philip Taylor for his response.  Thanks, Philip.  I saw one
 of your earlier posts (I think it was yours) about unwanted tabs in SM
 2.2 and understood and sympathised completely.

 Please, anyone, what earlier version of SM might you recommend as
 particularly stable?

The problem is that earlier versions have security issues.

I can't find the SM page that lists security issues/fixes, so this
will have to do
http://secunia.com/advisories/45007/
  Multiple vulnerabilities have been reported in Mozilla SeaMonkey, which can be
  exploited by malicious people to disclose potentially sensitive information,
  conduct cross-site scripting attacks, and compromise a user's system.

 Also - slightly off topic - can anyone tell me how to kill the box that
 opens every time I come here asking whether I want to compress my
 folders?

I have no idea :(

Lee


  (My answer would be - please tell me if I'm wrong - 'No, of
 course I don't want to do that unless I'm running out of space, but with
 a new computer and a vast hard drive, that seems to me hardly likely' -
 but the box gives me no such option, i.e., to say 'No', nor does it have
 a 'Don't show me this box in the future' option.)

 - Ken (in Oz)
 -
 Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:
 Ken --

 Hi guys. I have already posted the following as an adjunct to other
 threads but got no response. I will clarify below what I am seeking:

 Looks like I can't go back to SM 2.0.18 (I think it was - but it may
 have been 2.0.11). The 'Known Issues' note for SM 2.2 is headed (in
 bold), 'Data loss warning' and continues: 'If you use a profile with
 this or any later version and then try to go back to SeaMonkey 2.0,
 SeaMonkey will rename your history file to places.sqlite.corrupt and
 create a new places.qlite file, effectively resetting your browsing
 history.'

 Well, I don't pretend to understand all of that, but it does seem to
 be saying that I will lose data if I try to restore the SM version I
 had before. No?

 It would seem, from the text you cite and from the Known issues page :

 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.2/#issues

 that the only expected data loss is your browsing history. Given that
 most of us now operate in paranoid mode, and clear the browser history
 on browser exit anyway, this does not seem to represent a serious risk.

 Like you, and like some other contributors to this list since the
 announcement/release of V2.2, I too feel that V2.2 has fixed far
 too much that ain't broke in the first place -- incremental releases
 should (IMHO) address security concerns, evolving standards such
 as CSS, and similar core issues, reserving major behavioural changes
 such as the new must use tabs philosophy and the no-longer-optional
 installation of Chatzilla for optional major release (i.e., Seamonkey 3).

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 but who nonetheless finds Windows/XP, Classic View, Office 2003
 and so on infinitely more user friendly than any of the more recent
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Re: Separate post: please help, I want to go back to an earlier version of SM

2011-07-23 Thread dsavitsk
 Philip Taylor. who understands the the world must move on philosophy,
 but who nonetheless finds Windows/XP, Classic View, Office 2003
 and so on infinitely more user friendly than any of the more recent
 developments).

And 4x3 screens on laptops!
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Re: Separate post: please help, I want to go back to an earlier version of SM

2011-07-23 Thread PhillipJones
Best version ever put out in the 2 serious is 2.0x version. From 2. on 
goes down hill fast.


Ken wrote:

Gratitude to Philip Taylor for his response.  Thanks, Philip.  I saw one
of your earlier posts (I think it was yours) about unwanted tabs in SM
2.2 and understood and sympathised completely.

Please, anyone, what earlier version of SM might you recommend as
particularly stable?

Also - slightly off topic - can anyone tell me how to kill the box that
opens every time I come here asking whether I want to compress my
folders? (My answer would be - please tell me if I'm wrong - 'No, of
course I don't want to do that unless I'm running out of space, but with
a new computer and a vast hard drive, that seems to me hardly likely' -
but the box gives me no such option, i.e., to say 'No', nor does it have
a 'Don't show me this box in the future' option.)

- Ken (in Oz)
-
Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:

Ken --


Hi guys. I have already posted the following as an adjunct to other
threads but got no response. I will clarify below what I am seeking:

Looks like I can't go back to SM 2.0.18 (I think it was - but it may
have been 2.0.11). The 'Known Issues' note for SM 2.2 is headed (in
bold), 'Data loss warning' and continues: 'If you use a profile with
this or any later version and then try to go back to SeaMonkey 2.0,
SeaMonkey will rename your history file to places.sqlite.corrupt and
create a new places.qlite file, effectively resetting your browsing
history.'

Well, I don't pretend to understand all of that, but it does seem to
be saying that I will lose data if I try to restore the SM version I
had before. No?


It would seem, from the text you cite and from the Known issues page :

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.2/#issues

that the only expected data loss is your browsing history. Given that
most of us now operate in paranoid mode, and clear the browser history
on browser exit anyway, this does not seem to represent a serious risk.

Like you, and like some other contributors to this list since the
announcement/release of V2.2, I too feel that V2.2 has fixed far
too much that ain't broke in the first place -- incremental releases
should (IMHO) address security concerns, evolving standards such
as CSS, and similar core issues, reserving major behavioural changes
such as the new must use tabs philosophy and the no-longer-optional
installation of Chatzilla for optional major release (i.e., Seamonkey 3).

Philip Taylor. who understands the the world must move on philosophy,
but who nonetheless finds Windows/XP, Classic View, Office 2003
and so on infinitely more user friendly than any of the more recent
developments).





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Re: Separate post: please help, I want to go back to an earlier version of SM

2011-07-23 Thread Rufus
Personally, I'll champion the 1.1.x series because even though I didn't 
use the Forms Manager there were enough people here who did to make it 
seem a very desired feature.  2.0.14 is working just fine for me...I'll 
be sticking with it.


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PhillipJones wrote:

Best version ever put out in the 2 serious is 2.0x version. From 2. on
goes down hill fast.

Ken wrote:

Gratitude to Philip Taylor for his response. Thanks, Philip. I saw one
of your earlier posts (I think it was yours) about unwanted tabs in SM
2.2 and understood and sympathised completely.

Please, anyone, what earlier version of SM might you recommend as
particularly stable?

Also - slightly off topic - can anyone tell me how to kill the box that
opens every time I come here asking whether I want to compress my
folders? (My answer would be - please tell me if I'm wrong - 'No, of
course I don't want to do that unless I'm running out of space, but with
a new computer and a vast hard drive, that seems to me hardly likely' -
but the box gives me no such option, i.e., to say 'No', nor does it have
a 'Don't show me this box in the future' option.)

- Ken (in Oz)
-
Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:

Ken --


Hi guys. I have already posted the following as an adjunct to other
threads but got no response. I will clarify below what I am seeking:

Looks like I can't go back to SM 2.0.18 (I think it was - but it may
have been 2.0.11). The 'Known Issues' note for SM 2.2 is headed (in
bold), 'Data loss warning' and continues: 'If you use a profile with
this or any later version and then try to go back to SeaMonkey 2.0,
SeaMonkey will rename your history file to places.sqlite.corrupt and
create a new places.qlite file, effectively resetting your browsing
history.'

Well, I don't pretend to understand all of that, but it does seem to
be saying that I will lose data if I try to restore the SM version I
had before. No?


It would seem, from the text you cite and from the Known issues page :

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.2/#issues

that the only expected data loss is your browsing history. Given that
most of us now operate in paranoid mode, and clear the browser history
on browser exit anyway, this does not seem to represent a serious risk.

Like you, and like some other contributors to this list since the
announcement/release of V2.2, I too feel that V2.2 has fixed far
too much that ain't broke in the first place -- incremental releases
should (IMHO) address security concerns, evolving standards such
as CSS, and similar core issues, reserving major behavioural changes
such as the new must use tabs philosophy and the no-longer-optional
installation of Chatzilla for optional major release (i.e., Seamonkey
3).

Philip Taylor. who understands the the world must move on philosophy,
but who nonetheless finds Windows/XP, Classic View, Office 2003
and so on infinitely more user friendly than any of the more recent
developments).






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Re: Separate post: please help, I want to go back to an earlier version of SM

2011-07-23 Thread Ray_Net

Ken wrote:


And, if so, might somebody be kind enough to recommend me a good, stable
version to install - with which I'm prepared to stay until I die.


You must know that with SM you always need to upgrade, upgrade, upgrade 
and upgrade forever  The developpers don't want to maintain ONE 
stable release with only bugs and security issues corrections.

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Re: Separate post: please help, I want to go back to an earlier version of SM

2011-07-23 Thread PhillipJones

Rufus wrote:

Personally, I'll champion the 1.1.x series because even though I didn't
use the Forms Manager there were enough people here who did to make it
seem a very desired feature. 2.0.14 is working just fine for me...I'll
be sticking with it.



I agree. But if you have to go to 2 series. the 2.0.x is best version of 
the two series ever put out. 2.1 on you go down hill fast. Kills addons 
and Kill plugins. 2.2 I tried and only 4 helper files were listed. 
Before then the were 30-35 helper files listed.


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Re: Separate post: please help, I want to go back to an earlier version of SM

2011-07-23 Thread W3BNR

On 7/23/2011 5:17 PM PhillipJones submitted the following:

Rufus wrote:

Personally, I'll champion the 1.1.x series because even though I didn't
use the Forms Manager there were enough people here who did to make it
seem a very desired feature. 2.0.14 is working just fine for me...I'll
be sticking with it.



I agree. But if you have to go to 2 series. the 2.0.x is best version of the two
series ever put out. 2.1 on you go down hill fast. Kills addons and Kill
plugins. 2.2 I tried and only 4 helper files were listed. Before then the were
30-35 helper files listed.



I'm one of the few that seems to have no problems with 2.2.  Other than know 
bugs that have been around for some time, i.e. no space after smilies, etc.


As to addons that SAY they won't work.  Most do with a little push from
Add-on Compatibility Reporter 0.8.7

I have the following 13 extensions that are actually working ok in 2.2
'Display Mail User Agent 1.6.6 will not work though (of course it quit
working somewhere around 1.1.13 so I'm still using 1.6.5)

Extensions (enabled: 13)
* Add-on Compatibility Reporter 0.8.7 
(https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/?src=api)

* Autofill Forms 0.9.5.2 (https://blueimp.net/mozilla/)
* BetterPrivacy 1.51 (http://netticat.ath.cx/extensions.html)
* ChatZilla 0.9.87 (http://chatzilla.hacksrus.com/)
* DOM Inspector 2.0.10 (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/inspector/)
* Display Mail User Agent 1.6.5 
(http://www.juergen-ernst.de/addons/dispmua.html)
* DownloadHelper 4.9.3 (http://www.downloadhelper.net)
* FireFTP 1.99.5 (http://fireftp.mozdev.org)
* JavaScript Debugger 0.9.88.2 (http://www.hacksrus.com/~ginda/venkman/)
* Password Exporter 1.2.1 (http://passwordexporter.fligtar.com)
* PrefBar 5.1.1 (http://prefbar.mozdev.org/)
* Quote Colors 0.3 (http://quotecolors.mozdev.org/)
* ShowIP 1.1 (http://code.google.com/p/firefox-showip/)

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