Re: why can I not see submit section of page

2012-02-26 Thread Daniel

Arne wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 25/02/2012 16:11, Arne told the world:


I may update sometime in the future, if the developers can make the
newer versions work as we (as users) want it to work. At the moment
there has been to much complaints about all new versions, after
2.0.14, about issues I don't like in the newer versions.


Hang on, I am currently using SM 2.7.2 and it works exactly as it;s 
supposed to, as far as I am concerned. If SM does not do what you 
require, stop bitching and help the SeaMonkey team by providing some 
solutions to *YOUR* problems. (I'm guessing that's how the SeaMonkey 
team started!!)


Snip



Yes, I understand there are users who are satisfied with the newer
versions. But when evaluating a version I read the complaints and decide
if they are about something that also I will be unhappy with. And it has
been so, to many times.


What, do you want the happy campers to complain about how happy they are??


Sorry, It just my feeling I guess,


Yes.

Snip


That's what a lot of complaints has been about, the upgrading has not
been straightforward. And I don't care about the download history either.


It's not the SM team's problem if the authors of the add-ons that you 
rely on cannot be bothered to keep things up-to-date!!



Well, not everybody likes changes, I concede. But it's pretty hard to
avoid them.


But you are trying to avoid it.and blaming everyone else!!


I guess I have to change my Internet habits and in the future settle
with just what is strictly necessary, like paying my bills. :\




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Re: why can I not see submit section of page

2012-02-25 Thread WLS

Smiles wrote:

My wife has been trying to post a comment to this page for some time I
resorted to IE to see submit section

http://thankfullga447.blogspot.com/2012/02/polka-dot-giveaway.html

any ideas what is wrong

thanks



I see it after scrolling all the way down to it.

It is not visible when I disable JavaScript.

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Re: why can I not see submit section of page

2012-02-25 Thread Arne

Smiles wrote:

My wife has been trying to post a comment to this page for some time I
resorted to IE to see submit section

http://thankfullga447.blogspot.com/2012/02/polka-dot-giveaway.html

any ideas what is wrong


Blogspot don't like old Seamonkey versions any more.
I still have 2.0.14 and have the same problem. You have an even older 
version.


I changed the user agent string in about:config to
Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 (that's what WLS has in a more recent SM 
version)


And I was able to at least see the comment submit area, but I don't 
tried to post any comment there. Have to try it somewhere else. ;)


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Re: why can I not see submit section of page

2012-02-25 Thread WLS
On 02/25/2012 10:16 AM, Arne wrote:
 Smiles wrote:
 My wife has been trying to post a comment to this page for some time I
 resorted to IE to see submit section

 http://thankfullga447.blogspot.com/2012/02/polka-dot-giveaway.html

 any ideas what is wrong
 
 Blogspot don't like old Seamonkey versions any more.
 I still have 2.0.14 and have the same problem. You have an even older
 version.
 
 I changed the user agent string in about:config to
 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 (that's what WLS has in a more recent SM
 version)
 
 And I was able to at least see the comment submit area, but I don't
 tried to post any comment there. Have to try it somewhere else. ;)
 

Sorry, I assumed he was using the current version of SeaMonkey.

Gotta get into the habit of checking the user agent I guess. Since
posters don't have the common sense to identify which operating system
and application version they are using.

If I had I wouldn't have responded, or responded with Your SeaMonkey
2.0.3 is out dated and should no longer be supported, update to
SeaMonkey 2.7.2.

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Re: why can I not see submit section of page

2012-02-25 Thread Arne

WLS wrote:

On 02/25/2012 10:16 AM, Arne wrote:

Smiles wrote:

My wife has been trying to post a comment to this page for some time I
resorted to IE to see submit section

http://thankfullga447.blogspot.com/2012/02/polka-dot-giveaway.html

any ideas what is wrong


Blogspot don't like old Seamonkey versions any more.
I still have 2.0.14 and have the same problem. You have an even older
version.

I changed the user agent string in about:config to
Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 (that's what WLS has in a more recent SM
version)

And I was able to at least see the comment submit area, but I don't
tried to post any comment there. Have to try it somewhere else. ;)



If I had I wouldn't have responded, or responded with Your SeaMonkey
2.0.3 is out dated and should no longer be supported, update to
SeaMonkey 2.7.2.


I may update sometime in the future, if the developers can make the 
newer versions work as we (as users) want it to work. At the moment 
there has been to much complaints about all new versions, after 
2.0.14, about issues I don't like in the newer versions.


I'm also sick of updating the browser several times every moth, with 
the following hassle to get it work the same way as before the update, 
with e.g. add-ons and extensions I need but don't work.


Since the easiest way now to update, is to unistall 2.0.14 and start 
from scratch with a new version, I am in the process to move all my 
new mail correspondence to an other mail software, so I at least have 
them safe when/if the time comes to upgrade. Also bookmarks is to be 
saved as a web page.


I have tried some other browsers, in case I have to abandon SM. Also 
use them if I have to, but I don't like the way all new browser 
versions are taking. I like what I have now with SM 2.0.14 and would 
appreciate if new versions could stay that way.


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Re: why can I not see submit section of page

2012-02-25 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 25/02/2012 16:11, Arne told the world:

 I may update sometime in the future, if the developers can make the 
 newer versions work as we (as users) want it to work. At the moment 
 there has been to much complaints about all new versions, after 
 2.0.14, about issues I don't like in the newer versions.

Well, you have to take into account that in every endeavor, the
complaints are always heard louder than the praise. There are lots of
people -- including me -- perfectly happy with the new versions of
Seamonkey. We just aren't as prone to mention it in this forum.

Do you have any specific concerns that are keeping you from upgrading?
Perhaps we can clear up some points or offer an acceptable alternative.

 I'm also sick of updating the browser several times every moth, with 
 the following hassle to get it work the same way as before the update, 
 with e.g. add-ons and extensions I need but don't work.

Well, I wouldn't say several times a month. It's supposed to be once
every six weeks, but there has been on average about one intermediate
chemspill update between those, to address can't-wait serious issues
that have been recently discovered. But those chemspill updates tend
to change very little that's visible to the user.

Making add=ons work has become actually easier recently. Now in many
cases Seamonkey will by default accept an add-on even if technically it
is marked as incompatible. For other cases, the easiest workaround is
to install the Add-On Compatibility Reporter extension.

 Since the easiest way now to update, is to unistall 2.0.14 and start 
 from scratch with a new version, I am in the process to move all my 
 new mail correspondence to an other mail software, so I at least have 
 them safe when/if the time comes to upgrade. Also bookmarks is to be 
 saved as a web page.

Well, I wouldn't say that's the easiest way. Upgrading from 2.0.x to
higher versions is usually straightforward: just download the latest
version and install it over the old one. If you really, really want to
preserve your download history (most users don't care), you can upgrade
to 2.1.x as an intermediate step.

Of course, backing up your profile is a sensible precaution. Isn't it
always?

But starting from scratch -- with a clean slate -- does have its points,
I admit. It's more work, since you have to redo just about all your
settings, but you will arguably end up with a more stable system, not
carrying as much old cruft.

Re bookmarks... yeah, in 2.1 and higher those are stored in a database,
no longer in bookmarks.html. But if you like having bookmarks.html
available, there's an option (I forget what it is, since I don't use it)
to tell Seamonkey to auto-export an updated bookmarks.html every time it
closes down.

 I have tried some other browsers, in case I have to abandon SM. Also 
 use them if I have to, but I don't like the way all new browser 
 versions are taking. I like what I have now with SM 2.0.14 and would 
 appreciate if new versions could stay that way.

Well, not everybody likes changes, I concede. But it's pretty hard to
avoid them.

Not only is the Internet moving on, with what were newfangled
experimental capabilities a couple years ago now in the process of
becoming basic requirements for many sites, but also there's the
security problem. Security flaws are discovered all the time, and older,
no longer supported version aren't going to be fixed.


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Re: why can I not see submit section of page

2012-02-25 Thread Arne

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 25/02/2012 16:11, Arne told the world:


I may update sometime in the future, if the developers can make the
newer versions work as we (as users) want it to work. At the moment
there has been to much complaints about all new versions, after
2.0.14, about issues I don't like in the newer versions.


Well, you have to take into account that in every endeavor, the
complaints are always heard louder than the praise. There are lots of
people -- including me -- perfectly happy with the new versions of
Seamonkey. We just aren't as prone to mention it in this forum.


Yes, I understand there are users who are satisfied with the newer 
versions. But when evaluating a version I read the complaints and 
decide if they are about something that also I will be unhappy with. 
And it has been so, to many times.



Well, I wouldn't say several times a month.


Sorry, It just my feeling I guess, because when my other browsers get 
updated I hardy notice it. With SM I always notice it because 
something always get to the point that I have to fix in one way or an 
other. Not always hard to do, but still what I want to do to keep 
everything as it was and how I want it to be, if possible.



Making add=ons work has become actually easier recently. Now in many
cases Seamonkey will by default accept an add-on even if technically it
is marked as incompatible. For other cases, the easiest workaround is
to install the Add-On Compatibility Reporter extension.


As it was way back at least, I hardy get them work after an update 
before a new update was announced. So I used to hold the updates until 
I was sure there was at least the most valuable (for me) add-ons that 
was compatible with the version I updating to. So I have always been a 
bit behind with the SM updates.



Well, I wouldn't say that's the easiest way. Upgrading from 2.0.x to
higher versions is usually straightforward: just download the latest
version and install it over the old one. If you really, really want to
preserve your download history (most users don't care), you can upgrade
to 2.1.x as an intermediate step.


That's what a lot of complaints has been about, the upgrading has not 
been straightforward. And I don't care about the download history either.



Well, not everybody likes changes, I concede. But it's pretty hard to
avoid them.


I guess I have to change my Internet habits and in the future settle 
with just what is strictly necessary, like paying my bills. :\


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