Re: SM Get Info discrepancy

2011-05-25 Thread Keith Whaley

Rufus wrote:

Keith Whaley wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/23/11 7:20 PM, Keith Whaley wrote:

I have what I thought was SM 1.1.13 in my applications folder.
I select Get Info from the Finder, and it says it's v.1.1.13.

But, if I double click on it and open it, and I choose SeaMonkey/About
SeaMonkey, the revision says it's 1.1.14.

Why is this? Has anyone else run across that?

keith whaley



You posted using SM 2.0.14.



Yes, I did. I didn't have a choice.


I don't know what you mean by Finder or Get Info. Are those Mac
features?


Yessir. What else from a Mac guy? That means you're probably a PC guy.
Macs have a couple ways to determine what release version an app is.
One is Finder/File/Get Info. The other is to select the app to open it,
and when it opens choose the menu bar's About Firefox or About
SeaMonkey and you'll get the release info.



In any case, you should update to SM 2.0.14, which will soon be replaced
by SM 2.1.



Not bloody likely, as with MY setup, that version breaks Widgets. I
really don't like that.
Why do you guys keep insisting I move up to a version that is less
perfect than the version that preceded it?
2.0.14 IS less than problem free. Especially in areas of what I use
frequently. No thanks.

keith




That will/would be a deal breaker for me as well - I live on Widgets. If
2.0.14 is the end of days, then I guess I'll just have to live that way
or start using Safari/Thunderbird in combination.


Assuming that what David said is indeed the case, the Mac version of SM 
I have in in fact 2.0.13 and it only SAYs it's 2.0.14 under the About 
SeaMonkey icon.
I believe what David said above, because I had downloaded and used 
2.0.14 directly, and Widgets WAS demonstrably broken.
So this one that shows the duplicious identity really IS 2.0.13, and it 
works just fine for me, Widgets and all. Clean and crisp.  :-)


Best to one and all... keith


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Re: SM Get Info discrepancy

2011-05-25 Thread Philip Chee
On Wed, 25 May 2011 01:17:16 -0700, Keith Whaley wrote:

 Assuming that what David said is indeed the case, the Mac version of SM 
 I have in in fact 2.0.13 and it only SAYs it's 2.0.14 under the About 
 SeaMonkey icon.
 I believe what David said above, because I had downloaded and used 
 2.0.14 directly, and Widgets WAS demonstrably broken.
 So this one that shows the duplicious identity really IS 2.0.13, and it 
 works just fine for me, Widgets and all. Clean and crisp.  :-)

Keith, Do you have an extension installed like User Agent Switcher, or
Prefbar, or have manually edited about:config to change your user agent?

Go to about:config
and filter for useragent
Any entries in bold have been changed from the default. To reset back to
the defaults right click on such bolded entries and select Reset.

Phil

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Re: SM Get Info discrepancy

2011-05-25 Thread Rufus

Keith Whaley wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Keith Whaley wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/23/11 7:20 PM, Keith Whaley wrote:

I have what I thought was SM 1.1.13 in my applications folder.
I select Get Info from the Finder, and it says it's v.1.1.13.

But, if I double click on it and open it, and I choose SeaMonkey/About
SeaMonkey, the revision says it's 1.1.14.

Why is this? Has anyone else run across that?

keith whaley



You posted using SM 2.0.14.



Yes, I did. I didn't have a choice.


I don't know what you mean by Finder or Get Info. Are those Mac
features?


Yessir. What else from a Mac guy? That means you're probably a PC guy.
Macs have a couple ways to determine what release version an app is.
One is Finder/File/Get Info. The other is to select the app to open it,
and when it opens choose the menu bar's About Firefox or About
SeaMonkey and you'll get the release info.



In any case, you should update to SM 2.0.14, which will soon be
replaced
by SM 2.1.



Not bloody likely, as with MY setup, that version breaks Widgets. I
really don't like that.
Why do you guys keep insisting I move up to a version that is less
perfect than the version that preceded it?
2.0.14 IS less than problem free. Especially in areas of what I use
frequently. No thanks.

keith




That will/would be a deal breaker for me as well - I live on Widgets. If
2.0.14 is the end of days, then I guess I'll just have to live that way
or start using Safari/Thunderbird in combination.


Assuming that what David said is indeed the case, the Mac version of SM
I have in in fact 2.0.13 and it only SAYs it's 2.0.14 under the About
SeaMonkey icon.
I believe what David said above, because I had downloaded and used
2.0.14 directly, and Widgets WAS demonstrably broken.
So this one that shows the duplicious identity really IS 2.0.13, and it
works just fine for me, Widgets and all. Clean and crisp. :-)

Best to one and all... keith




Ok...I'm running SM 2.0.14 and Widgets work...I was thinking you were 
talking about 2.1.x of some sort.  I'm not liking much of what I read 
about 2.1.x.


The most definitive way to find out which version of any app you 
actually have installed (or at least what OS X thinks you have 
installed) is to open System Profiler and look under Applications. 
Takes longer, because it shows you everything you have on your 
machine...but worth a cross-check.


One other thing you may have run across is that going directly from any 
of the 1.1.x versions without installing 2.0.0 first can screw stuff up 
- I've seen that, too.  I always advise Mac users moving up to 2.0.x to 
install 2.0.0 first and let it do the migration, then install 2.0.x.


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SM Get Info discrepancy

2011-05-24 Thread Keith Whaley

I have what I thought was SM 1.1.13 in my applications folder.
I select Get Info from the Finder, and it says it's v.1.1.13.

But, if I double click on it and open it, and I choose SeaMonkey/About 
SeaMonkey, the revision says it's 1.1.14.


Why is this? Has anyone else run across that?

keith whaley
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Re: SM Get Info discrepancy

2011-05-24 Thread David E. Ross
On 5/23/11 7:20 PM, Keith Whaley wrote:
 I have what I thought was SM 1.1.13 in my applications folder.
 I select Get Info from the Finder, and it says it's v.1.1.13.
 
 But, if I double click on it and open it, and I choose SeaMonkey/About 
 SeaMonkey, the revision says it's 1.1.14.
 
 Why is this? Has anyone else run across that?
 
 keith whaley

You posted using SM 2.0.14.

I don't know what you mean by Finder or Get Info.  Are those Mac features?

In any case, you should update to SM 2.0.14, which will soon be replaced
by SM 2.1.

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Re: SM Get Info discrepancy

2011-05-24 Thread Keith Whaley

David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/23/11 7:20 PM, Keith Whaley wrote:

I have what I thought was SM 1.1.13 in my applications folder.
I select Get Info from the Finder, and it says it's v.1.1.13.

But, if I double click on it and open it, and I choose SeaMonkey/About
SeaMonkey, the revision says it's 1.1.14.

Why is this? Has anyone else run across that?

keith whaley



You posted using SM 2.0.14.



Yes, I did. I didn't have a choice.


I don't know what you mean by Finder or Get Info.  Are those Mac features?


Yessir. What else from a Mac guy? That means you're probably a PC guy.
Macs have a couple ways to determine what release version an app is.
One is Finder/File/Get Info. The other is to select the app to open it, 
and when it opens choose the menu bar's About Firefox or About 
SeaMonkey and you'll get the release info.



In any case, you should update to SM 2.0.14, which will soon be replaced
by SM 2.1.


Not bloody likely, as with MY setup, that version breaks Widgets. I 
really don't like that.
Why do you guys keep insisting I move up to a version that is less 
perfect than the version that preceded it?
2.0.14 IS less than problem free. Especially in areas of what I use 
frequently. No thanks.


keith


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Re: SM Get Info discrepancy

2011-05-24 Thread David E. Ross
On 5/24/11 4:12 PM, Keith Whaley wrote [in part]:
 I previously wrote [also in part]:
 On 5/23/11 7:20 PM, Keith Whaley wrote:
 I have what I thought was SM 1.1.13 in my applications folder.
 I select Get Info from the Finder, and it says it's v.1.1.13.

 But, if I double click on it and open it, and I choose SeaMonkey/About
 SeaMonkey, the revision says it's 1.1.14.

 Why is this? Has anyone else run across that?

 keith whaley
 
 You posted using SM 2.0.14.
 
 
 Yes, I did. I didn't have a choice.
 
 I don't know what you mean by Finder or Get Info.  Are those Mac features?
 
 Yessir. What else from a Mac guy? That means you're probably a PC guy.
 Macs have a couple ways to determine what release version an app is.
 One is Finder/File/Get Info. The other is to select the app to open it, 
 and when it opens choose the menu bar's About Firefox or About 
 SeaMonkey and you'll get the release info.
 

Aha.  Finder/File/Get Info is a Mac feature similar to the Properties
feature of Windows.  I select a file, right-click, and select Properties
from the pull-down context menu.  Among the properties displayed for
executable files is the version.

In general, I would trust what you see from Finder/File/Get Info more
than what you see from selecting [Help  About SeaMonkey] on the
SeaMonkey menu bar.  That is because it is very easy to spoof a
different version.

However, I recall at least one instance of a new version of Mozilla
Suite or SeaMonkey that was released to end users when the developers
forgot to change the version number seen by Mac's Finder/File/Get Info
and Windows' Properties.  But I might be mistaken about that.

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Re: SM Get Info discrepancy

2011-05-24 Thread Rufus

Keith Whaley wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/23/11 7:20 PM, Keith Whaley wrote:

I have what I thought was SM 1.1.13 in my applications folder.
I select Get Info from the Finder, and it says it's v.1.1.13.

But, if I double click on it and open it, and I choose SeaMonkey/About
SeaMonkey, the revision says it's 1.1.14.

Why is this? Has anyone else run across that?

keith whaley



You posted using SM 2.0.14.



Yes, I did. I didn't have a choice.


I don't know what you mean by Finder or Get Info. Are those Mac features?


Yessir. What else from a Mac guy? That means you're probably a PC guy.
Macs have a couple ways to determine what release version an app is.
One is Finder/File/Get Info. The other is to select the app to open it,
and when it opens choose the menu bar's About Firefox or About
SeaMonkey and you'll get the release info.


In any case, you should update to SM 2.0.14, which will soon be replaced
by SM 2.1.


Not bloody likely, as with MY setup, that version breaks Widgets. I
really don't like that.
Why do you guys keep insisting I move up to a version that is less
perfect than the version that preceded it?
2.0.14 IS less than problem free. Especially in areas of what I use
frequently. No thanks.

keith




That will/would be a deal breaker for me as well - I live on Widgets. 
If 2.0.14 is the end of days, then I guess I'll just have to live that 
way or start using Safari/Thunderbird in combination.


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