Re: SeaMonkey 2.12 released

[MCBastos]

Interviewed by CNN on 02/09/2012 19:01, zfhgfhfj told the world:
> WaltS wrote:
>> On 09/02/2012 11:06 AM, zfhgfhfj wrote:
>>> I just wanted to remain the devs:
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2mU6USTBRE
>>>
>>> SeaMonkey is still FAT !!!
>>
>> remain?
>>
> Yep, 3 tabs 200MB+, they have some flash ads on them but still...
> 
> M$ Excel opening 2 simple spreadshits uses 39MB, opening 20+ tabs will 
> go 1GB+, there is something really wrong here that hasn't been addressed 
> up to this day...
> 

You do know that this is an improper comparison, don't you? Seamonkey is
not a spreadsheet program and Excel is not a browser. The data they deal
with is significantly different too. Excel rarely loads images, to begin
with. "simple" spreadsheets (the ones you use in your comparison) rarely
contain scripts, while even "simple" webpages nowadays have four or five
scripts (for ads and such, at the very least). Entirely different
beasts. You aren't comparing apples and oranges; you are comparing Apple
Computers and _the color_ orange.

If you want to offer a valid comparison, show numbers for another
browser. Don't forget about the e-mail client -- if you use a browser
with no built-in mail client (that would exclude just about all major
players except Opera, I think), add a lightweight(*) e-mail program with
a similar setup to your Seamonkey setup.

(*) I say "lightweight" because of course including the mail client in
the browser gives some savings, and using some overweight beast like
Outlook would be a totally unfair comparison. A lean program like
Pegasus or re-Alpine would make for a fairer comparison.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.12 released

[Chris Ilias]

On 12-09-02 11:06 AM, zfhgfhfj wrote:

I just wanted to remain the devs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2mU6USTBRE

SeaMonkey is still FAT !!!


If you want to communicate a message to developers, you should post in 
the mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey newsgroup. This is a user support 
newsgroup. If you're having a problem, the volunteers here can help you 
solve your problem or at least workaround it. It would help to know what 
you mean by "fat". Could you be more specific? We'll also need some more 
info about your SeaMonkey setup. Go to 
Help-->Troubleshooting_Information, then click [Copy all to Clipboard]. 
Open a reply to this post, and go to Edit-->Paste to paste the info from 
your Troubleshooting Information page.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.12 released

[Rufus]

Daniel wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:





I get the black bars on either side, too. If I maximize the video,
that's expected because of the 4:3 aspect ratio.

I don't get any "doubling," whatever that means, but there does seem to
be an unrelated background image behind the vid:




Yeah - that's what I see, but two half-panes of it split across the
presentation left and right.  Goofy.  I wonder if it could be because of
any one of the ad-blocker add-onns I'm using, like Ghostery or Adblock
Plus?

I hadn't tried maximizing the presentation - just tried, and that
looks/plays just fine.



Interesting that you mention Ghostery, Rufus! I've been trying to catch
up on part one of a three part T.V. doco, but when I go to:-

http://www.sbs.com.au/goback/video/201/series-2-episode-1

I get a blank screen, not even any of the buttons, volume bar at the
bottom of the screen.

I do have Ghostery installed and it tells me it's blocked the Twitter
Button below the screen!.

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:14.0)
Gecko/20120715 Firefox/14.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.11

Was going to have another try on Wednesday, when I boot up into my Win7
entity (to update all my bits and pieces) to see if that works!



hmmmnn.  I get quite a bit of blocked areas, but I did get the 
player at the center of the screen with a play button in it - however 
when I clicked it I got a "this content is presently unavailable" audio 
message.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.12 released

[zfhgfhfj]

Rufus wrote:

I'm on a Mac..."registry"?  What's that?

I don't see any problems except for this one link - everything else is
fine.  It's not a "problem" for me, just strange.


Oh, Registry is the configuration file of Windows, nvm then. Use 
Photobucket or another image/file hosting website to display your error.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.12 released

[Daniel]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/2/12 8:06 AM, zfhgfhfj wrote:

I just wanted to remain the devs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2mU6USTBRE

SeaMonkey is still FAT !!!



"remain"??

I tried that link, both in Safe Mode (no extensions) and normal (a list
of 17 extensions).  It works okay, both the advertisement and the actual
Mad Al.



Ditto.and "remain" = "remind", I think!!

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.12 released

[Daniel]

Rufus wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:





I get the black bars on either side, too. If I maximize the video,
that's expected because of the 4:3 aspect ratio.

I don't get any "doubling," whatever that means, but there does seem to
be an unrelated background image behind the vid:




Yeah - that's what I see, but two half-panes of it split across the
presentation left and right.  Goofy.  I wonder if it could be because of
any one of the ad-blocker add-onns I'm using, like Ghostery or Adblock
Plus?

I hadn't tried maximizing the presentation - just tried, and that
looks/plays just fine.



Interesting that you mention Ghostery, Rufus! I've been trying to catch 
up on part one of a three part T.V. doco, but when I go to:-


http://www.sbs.com.au/goback/video/201/series-2-episode-1

I get a blank screen, not even any of the buttons, volume bar at the 
bottom of the screen.


I do have Ghostery installed and it tells me it's blocked the Twitter 
Button below the screen!.


Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:14.0) 
Gecko/20120715 Firefox/14.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.11


Was going to have another try on Wednesday, when I boot up into my Win7 
entity (to update all my bits and pieces) to see if that works!


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.12 released

[Rufus]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

zfhgfhfj wrote:


Rufus wrote:

zfhgfhfj wrote:

I just wanted to remain the devs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2mU6USTBRE

SeaMonkey is still FAT !!!


When I load this page it doubles - I get the video, and a black bar
beside it, like a page and a half side-by-side.  Doesn't do that for any
other Yoo2b page I navigate to, and still does it when I go back.

Weird, Al...


Something is wrong with your SM installation, try Ctrl+F5 or making a
registry cleaning (CCleaner, COMODO System Cleaner, ERUNT, Raxco Perfect
Registry, Advanced System Care 4; use them all) and re-install SM.



I get the black bars on either side, too. If I maximize the video,
that's expected because of the 4:3 aspect ratio.

I don't get any "doubling," whatever that means, but there does seem to
be an unrelated background image behind the vid:




Yeah - that's what I see, but two half-panes of it split across the 
presentation left and right.  Goofy.  I wonder if it could be because of 
any one of the ad-blocker add-onns I'm using, like Ghostery or Adblock Plus?


I hadn't tried maximizing the presentation - just tried, and that 
looks/plays just fine.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.12 released

[Rufus]

zfhgfhfj wrote:

Rufus wrote:

zfhgfhfj wrote:

I just wanted to remain the devs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2mU6USTBRE

SeaMonkey is still FAT !!!


When I load this page it doubles - I get the video, and a black bar
beside it, like a page and a half side-by-side.  Doesn't do that for any
other Yoo2b page I navigate to, and still does it when I go back.

Weird, Al...


Something is wrong with your SM installation, try Ctrl+F5 or making a
registry cleaning (CCleaner, COMODO System Cleaner, ERUNT, Raxco Perfect
Registry, Advanced System Care 4; use them all) and re-install SM.


I'm on a Mac..."registry"?  What's that?

I don't see any problems except for this one link - everything else is 
fine.  It's not a "problem" for me, just strange.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.12 released

[Paul B. Gallagher]

zfhgfhfj wrote:


Rufus wrote:

zfhgfhfj wrote:

I just wanted to remain the devs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2mU6USTBRE

SeaMonkey is still FAT !!!


When I load this page it doubles - I get the video, and a black bar
beside it, like a page and a half side-by-side.  Doesn't do that for any
other Yoo2b page I navigate to, and still does it when I go back.

Weird, Al...


Something is wrong with your SM installation, try Ctrl+F5 or making a
registry cleaning (CCleaner, COMODO System Cleaner, ERUNT, Raxco Perfect
Registry, Advanced System Care 4; use them all) and re-install SM.



I get the black bars on either side, too. If I maximize the video, 
that's expected because of the 4:3 aspect ratio.


I don't get any "doubling," whatever that means, but there does seem to 
be an unrelated background image behind the vid:



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Re: SeaMonkey 2.12 released

[WaltS]

On 09/02/2012 06:01 PM, zfhgfhfj wrote:
> WaltS wrote:
>> On 09/02/2012 11:06 AM, zfhgfhfj wrote:
>>> I just wanted to remain the devs:
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2mU6USTBRE
>>>
>>> SeaMonkey is still FAT !!!
>>
>> remain?
>>
> Yep, 3 tabs 200MB+, they have some flash ads on them but still...
> 
> M$ Excel opening 2 simple spreadshits uses 39MB, opening 20+ tabs will
> go 1GB+, there is something really wrong here that hasn't been addressed
> up to this day...

Your spelling?

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.12 released

[David E. Ross]

On 9/2/12 8:06 AM, zfhgfhfj wrote:
> I just wanted to remain the devs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2mU6USTBRE
> 
> SeaMonkey is still FAT !!!
> 

"remain"??

I tried that link, both in Safe Mode (no extensions) and normal (a list
of 17 extensions).  It works okay, both the advertisement and the actual
Mad Al.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.12 released

[zfhgfhfj]

Rufus wrote:

zfhgfhfj wrote:

I just wanted to remain the devs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2mU6USTBRE

SeaMonkey is still FAT !!!


When I load this page it doubles - I get the video, and a black bar
beside it, like a page and a half side-by-side.  Doesn't do that for any
other Yoo2b page I navigate to, and still does it when I go back.

Weird, Al...

Something is wrong with your SM installation, try Ctrl+F5 or making a 
registry cleaning (CCleaner, COMODO System Cleaner, ERUNT, Raxco Perfect 
Registry, Advanced System Care 4; use them all) and re-install SM.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.12 released

[zfhgfhfj]

WaltS wrote:

On 09/02/2012 11:06 AM, zfhgfhfj wrote:

I just wanted to remain the devs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2mU6USTBRE

SeaMonkey is still FAT !!!


remain?


Yep, 3 tabs 200MB+, they have some flash ads on them but still...

M$ Excel opening 2 simple spreadshits uses 39MB, opening 20+ tabs will 
go 1GB+, there is something really wrong here that hasn't been addressed 
up to this day...

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.12 released

[Rufus]

zfhgfhfj wrote:

I just wanted to remain the devs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2mU6USTBRE

SeaMonkey is still FAT !!!


When I load this page it doubles - I get the video, and a black bar 
beside it, like a page and a half side-by-side.  Doesn't do that for any 
other Yoo2b page I navigate to, and still does it when I go back.


Weird, Al...

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.12 released

[WaltS]

On 09/02/2012 11:06 AM, zfhgfhfj wrote:
> I just wanted to remain the devs:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2mU6USTBRE
> 
> SeaMonkey is still FAT !!!

remain?

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.12 released

[zfhgfhfj]

I just wanted to remain the devs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2mU6USTBRE

SeaMonkey is still FAT !!!
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.12 released

[Jens Hatlak]

Lucas Levrel wrote:

Le 30 août 2012, Jens Hatlak a écrit :

[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.12


Error 404.


Oops, yes, my fault. Though I actually blame our ancient VCS (CVS) which 
is not capable of including files scheduled for addition into patches. 
If we ever switch to hg (Mercurial), this will be a problem of the past.


Thanks for noticing!

Greetings,

Jens

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.12 released

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Lucas Levrel wrote:


Thanks for the announcement.

Le 30 août 2012, Jens Hatlak a écrit :

[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.12


Error 404.


Insert pound sign:



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Re: SeaMonkey 2.12 released

[Daniel]

Lucas Levrel wrote:


Thanks for the announcement.

Le 30 août 2012, Jens Hatlak a écrit :

[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.12


Error 404.



Ditto!

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.12 released

[Lucas Levrel]

Thanks for the announcement.

Le 30 août 2012, Jens Hatlak a écrit :

[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.12


Error 404.

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SeaMonkey 2.12 released

[Jens Hatlak]

The SeaMonkey project is proud to present SeaMonkey 2.12: The new major 
release of the all-in-one Internet suite is available for download [1] 
now! Building on the same Mozilla platform as the newest Firefox 
release, it delivers the latest developments in web technologies such as 
HTML5, hardware acceleration and improved JavaScript speed.


SeaMonkey 2.12 is available in 26 languages, for Windows, Mac OS X and 
Linux.


Most notably, this release features for the first time:
* Added support for SPDY networking protocol v3
* Implemented WebGL enhancements, including compressed textures for
  better performance
* Optimized memory usage for add-ons
* Implemented the CSS word-break property
* Implemented high precision event timer
* HTML5: Added native support for the Opus audio codec
* HTML5: Added support for the source element media attribute
* HTML5: Added support for the audio element and video element played
  attribute
* Fixed several stability issues


For a more complete list of major changes [2] in SeaMonkey 2.12, see the 
What's New in SeaMonkey 2.12 section of the Release Notes [3], which 
also contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked 
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and 
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.12
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.12/changes
[3] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.12/

Greetings,

Jens

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