Re: SeaMonkey outages
George Carden wrote: After years of no problems, suddenly, and totally at random, my SeaMonkey seems to just lose power...and occasionally totally loses it's web connection for some reason. This happened a few minutes ago, and I used the site http://www.speed.io/index_en.html to conduct a speed test on SeaMonkey and Internet Explorer, one right after another. Here are the results... - First, SeaMonkey: Download = 670 Kbit/s Upload = 543 Kbit/s Connections = 2209/minute Ping = 43 ms Overall quality equals to 768 Kbit/s - Immediately after, Internet Explorer: Download = 13292 Kbit/s Upload = 1053 Kbit/s Connections = 957/minute Ping = 29 ms Overall quality equals to 12000 Kbit/s - What could be causing these outages, and what can I do to fix them? Those are not 'outages' merely random slowdowns. Do 5 tests of each and show the results. ping times vary from moment to moment. I do not believe you can show that ping times are Browser dependent - am I wrong? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey outages
On Wednesday, April 13, 2011 09:00:44 AM Rick Merrill wrote: George Carden wrote: After years of no problems, suddenly, and totally at random, my SeaMonkey seems to just lose power...and occasionally totally loses it's web connection for some reason. This happened a few minutes ago, and I used the site http://www.speed.io/index_en.html to conduct a speed test on SeaMonkey and Internet Explorer, one right after another. Here are the results... - First, SeaMonkey: Download = 670 Kbit/s Upload = 543 Kbit/s Connections = 2209/minute Ping = 43 ms Overall quality equals to 768 Kbit/s - Immediately after, Internet Explorer: Download = 13292 Kbit/s Upload = 1053 Kbit/s Connections = 957/minute Ping = 29 ms Overall quality equals to 12000 Kbit/s - What could be causing these outages, and what can I do to fix them? Those are not 'outages' merely random slowdowns. Do 5 tests of each and show the results. ping times vary from moment to moment. I do not believe you can show that ping times are Browser dependent - am I wrong? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey I just did a test of three browsers. Konqueror, FireFox and SeaMonkey. Both Konqueror were shown as excellent for overall quality and speeds, SeaMonkey was rated good for overall quality and average for Speed. I am running on a 100Mbit fibre optics network. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey outages
upscope wrote: On Wednesday, April 13, 2011 09:00:44 AM Rick Merrill wrote: George Carden wrote: After years of no problems, suddenly, and totally at random, my SeaMonkey seems to just lose power...and occasionally totally loses it's web connection for some reason. This happened a few minutes ago, and I used the site http://www.speed.io/index_en.html to conduct a speed test on SeaMonkey and Internet Explorer, one right after another. Here are the results... - First, SeaMonkey: Download = 670 Kbit/s Upload = 543 Kbit/s Connections = 2209/minute Ping = 43 ms Overall quality equals to 768 Kbit/s - Immediately after, Internet Explorer: Download = 13292 Kbit/s Upload = 1053 Kbit/s Connections = 957/minute Ping = 29 ms Overall quality equals to 12000 Kbit/s - What could be causing these outages, and what can I do to fix them? Those are not 'outages' merely random slowdowns. Do 5 tests of each and show the results. ping times vary from moment to moment. I do not believe you can show that ping times are Browser dependent - am I wrong? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey I just did a test of three browsers. Konqueror, FireFox and SeaMonkey. Both Konqueror were shown as excellent for overall quality and speeds, SeaMonkey was rated good for overall quality and average for Speed. How does a test determine quality?! I am running on a 100Mbit fibre optics network. Any routers or other users on the system? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey outages
On Wednesday, April 13, 2011 10:33:49 AM Rick Merrill wrote: upscope wrote: On Wednesday, April 13, 2011 09:00:44 AM Rick Merrill wrote: George Carden wrote: After years of no problems, suddenly, and totally at random, my SeaMonkey seems to just lose power...and occasionally totally loses it's web connection for some reason. This happened a few minutes ago, and I used the site http://www.speed.io/index_en.html to conduct a speed test on SeaMonkey and Internet Explorer, one right after another. Here are the results... - First, SeaMonkey: Download = 670 Kbit/s Upload = 543 Kbit/s Connections = 2209/minute Ping = 43 ms Overall quality equals to 768 Kbit/s - Immediately after, Internet Explorer: Download = 13292 Kbit/s Upload = 1053 Kbit/s Connections = 957/minute Ping = 29 ms Overall quality equals to 12000 Kbit/s - What could be causing these outages, and what can I do to fix them? Those are not 'outages' merely random slowdowns. Do 5 tests of each and show the results. ping times vary from moment to moment. I do not believe you can show that ping times are Browser dependent - am I wrong? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey I just did a test of three browsers. Konqueror, FireFox and SeaMonkey. Both Konqueror were shown as excellent for overall quality and speeds, SeaMonkey was rated good for overall quality and average for Speed. How does a test determine quality?! I do not know unless they are looking at line quality based on need to retransmit a given packet. It is on of the displays on the link mentioned above. I am running on a 100Mbit fibre optics network. Any routers or other users on the system? a router with one very busy other user. Not a heavily loaded system or router. I realize the tests are not real good because the end server where data is coming from may be slow or throttled. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey outages
After years of no problems, suddenly, and totally at random, my SeaMonkey seems to just lose power...and occasionally totally loses it's web connection for some reason. This happened a few minutes ago, and I used the site http://www.speed.io/index_en.html to conduct a speed test on SeaMonkey and Internet Explorer, one right after another. Here are the results... - First, SeaMonkey: Download = 670 Kbit/s Upload = 543 Kbit/s Connections = 2209/minute Ping = 43 ms Overall quality equals to 768 Kbit/s - Immediately after, Internet Explorer: Download = 13292 Kbit/s Upload = 1053 Kbit/s Connections = 957/minute Ping = 29 ms Overall quality equals to 12000 Kbit/s - What could be causing these outages, and what can I do to fix them? Thanks for your help! -George ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey outages
George Carden wrote: This happened a few minutes ago, and I used the site http://www.speed.io/index_en.html to conduct a speed test on SeaMonkey and Internet Explorer, one right after another. Here are the results... I happened to have Opera open when I read your post. Here's what that speed test site told me: quote In order to use speed.io you need Internet Explorer, Firefox or Safari If you want to test your internet speed with Opera, we recommend you to use the AJAX based speedtest at Speedmeter.de You will be redirected automatically in 5 seconds . . . /quote Notice SeaMonkey is not listed. :-/ But with my Firefox-spoofing UA string it would run. It reported 7984 Kbps down, 884 Kbps up. Then I ran it with Firefox, and got 12922/1057 on my 13Mbps cable line. I have no Internet Explorer, nor Windows. So SeaMonkey reports slower than Firefox. but far from the difference you are reporting. What speed are you actually paying for? -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey outages
If it helps as a poit of reference, with the following config I get: Download 4378 KBits Upload 2811 KBits Connections 929 per min Ping 34ms SeaMonkey version 2.0.13 * Copyright © 1998-2011 by contributors to the Mozilla Project. * Read the licensing information for this product. * See the build configuration used for this version. * Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.18) Gecko/20110320 not Firefox/3.6 SeaMonkey/2.0.5, Firefox/3.0 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: George Carden wrote: This happened a few minutes ago, and I used the site http://www.speed.io/index_en.html to conduct a speed test on SeaMonkey and Internet Explorer, one right after another. Here are the results... I happened to have Opera open when I read your post. Here's what that speed test site told me: quote In order to use speed.io you need Internet Explorer, Firefox or Safari If you want to test your internet speed with Opera, we recommend you to use the AJAX based speedtest at Speedmeter.de You will be redirected automatically in 5 seconds . . . /quote Notice SeaMonkey is not listed. :-/ But with my Firefox-spoofing UA string it would run. It reported 7984 Kbps down, 884 Kbps up. Then I ran it with Firefox, and got 12922/1057 on my 13Mbps cable line. I have no Internet Explorer, nor Windows. So SeaMonkey reports slower than Firefox. but far from the difference you are reporting. What speed are you actually paying for? -- Thanks! 73, KD4E David Colburn http://kd4e.com SE-GA Tailgate - April 9th, 2011 Have an http://ultrafidian.com day I don't google I SEARCH! http://ixquick.com Shop Freedom-Friendly http://kd4e.com/of.html ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey outages
George Carden wrote: After years of no problems, suddenly, and totally at random, my SeaMonkey seems to just lose power...and occasionally totally loses it's web connection for some reason. This happened a few minutes ago, and I used the site http://www.speed.io/index_en.html to conduct a speed test on SeaMonkey and Internet Explorer, one right after another. Here are the results... - First, SeaMonkey: Download = 670 Kbit/s Upload = 543 Kbit/s Connections = 2209/minute Ping = 43 ms Overall quality equals to 768 Kbit/s - Immediately after, Internet Explorer: Download = 13292 Kbit/s Upload = 1053 Kbit/s Connections = 957/minute Ping = 29 ms Overall quality equals to 12000 Kbit/s - What could be causing these outages, and what can I do to fix them? Thanks for your help! Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.15) Gecko/20101027 NOT Firefox/3.6.16 SeaMonkey/2.0.10 Results from http://www.speed.io (Copied on 2011-04-13 00:15:18) Download: 16773 Kbit/s Upload : 3782 kbit/s Connects : 2724 conn/min Ping: 34 ms Now removing the NOT Firefox/3.6.16: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.15) Gecko/20101027 SeaMonkey/2.0.10 Results from http://www.speed.io (Copied on 2011-04-13 00:22:34) Download: 18516 Kbit/s Upload : 3895 kbit/s Connects : 2269 conn/min Ping: 33 ms So Seamonkey with or without spoofing FireFox gives the same results. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey outages
Ray_Net wrote: George Carden wrote: After years of no problems, suddenly, and totally at random, my SeaMonkey seems to just lose power...and occasionally totally loses it's web connection for some reason. This happened a few minutes ago, and I used the site http://www.speed.io/index_en.html to conduct a speed test on SeaMonkey and Internet Explorer, one right after another. Here are the results... - First, SeaMonkey: Download = 670 Kbit/s Upload = 543 Kbit/s Connections = 2209/minute Ping = 43 ms Overall quality equals to 768 Kbit/s - Immediately after, Internet Explorer: Download = 13292 Kbit/s Upload = 1053 Kbit/s Connections = 957/minute Ping = 29 ms Overall quality equals to 12000 Kbit/s - What could be causing these outages, and what can I do to fix them? Thanks for your help! Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.15) Gecko/20101027 NOT Firefox/3.6.16 SeaMonkey/2.0.10 Results from http://www.speed.io (Copied on 2011-04-13 00:15:18) Download: 16773 Kbit/s Upload : 3782 kbit/s Connects : 2724 conn/min Ping: 34 ms Now removing the NOT Firefox/3.6.16: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.15) Gecko/20101027 SeaMonkey/2.0.10 Results from http://www.speed.io (Copied on 2011-04-13 00:22:34) Download: 18516 Kbit/s Upload : 3895 kbit/s Connects : 2269 conn/min Ping: 33 ms So Seamonkey with or without spoofing FireFox gives the same results. I had no problems running this with SM, either -- no prompts, no complaints, no nothing. Just ran. Download: 6834 Kbit/s Upload: 8924 kbit/s Connects: 1210 conn/min Ping: 107 ms Second pass, two minutes later: Download: 23189 Kbit/s Upload: 9062 kbit/s Connects: 800 conn/min Ping: 150 ms Third pass, two minutes later: Download: 19131 Kbit/s Upload: 9062 kbit/s Connects: 706 conn/min Ping: 186 ms For me, it looks like there's a lot of minute-to-minute fluctuation, at least in the downlink. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey outages
On 04/12/2011 12:58 PM, George Carden wrote: After years of no problems, suddenly, and totally at random, my SeaMonkey seems to just lose power...and occasionally totally loses it's web connection for some reason. This happened a few minutes ago, and I used the site http://www.speed.io/index_en.html to conduct a speed test on SeaMonkey and Internet Explorer, one right after another. Here are the results... - First, SeaMonkey: Download = 670 Kbit/s Upload = 543 Kbit/s Connections = 2209/minute Ping = 43 ms Overall quality equals to 768 Kbit/s - Immediately after, Internet Explorer: Download = 13292 Kbit/s Upload = 1053 Kbit/s Connections = 957/minute Ping = 29 ms Overall quality equals to 12000 Kbit/s - What could be causing these outages, and what can I do to fix them? Did you test SeaMonkey again immediately after IE? My tests are pretty consistant with the speedtest site I use: http://myspeed.visualware.com/index.php SeaMonkey 2.1b3 (linux): Test Type: Application Speed Location: Download Speed: 2542 kbps Upload Speed: 417 kbps Speed Consistency: 99 % Round Trip Time:17 ms Max Delay: 7 ms Average Delay: 4 ms Bandwidth: 2560 kbps Max Route Speed:30840 kbps Route Concurrency: 1 Test Type: s / s Round Trip Time Consistency:77 % Opera: Test Type: Application Speed Location: Download Speed: 2541 kbps Upload Speed: 433 kbps Speed Consistency: 99 % Round Trip Time:17 ms Max Delay: 9 ms Average Delay: 4 ms Bandwidth: 2541 kbps Max Route Speed:30840 kbps Route Concurrency: 1 Test Type: s / s Round Trip Time Consistency:73 % Chromium: Test Type: Application Speed Location: Download Speed: 2542 kbps Upload Speed: 434 kbps Speed Consistency: 99 % Round Trip Time:16 ms Max Delay: 8 ms Average Delay: 4 ms Bandwidth: 2560 kbps Max Route Speed:32767 kbps Route Concurrency: 1 Test Type: s / s Round Trip Time Consistency:69 % Epiphany: Test Type: Application Speed Location: Download Speed: 2542 kbps Upload Speed: 419 kbps Speed Consistency: 99 % Round Trip Time:17 ms Max Delay: 7 ms Average Delay: 4 ms Bandwidth: 2560 kbps Max Route Speed:30840 kbps Route Concurrency: 1 Test Type: s / s Round Trip Time Consistency:77 % I'm on an ATT DSL 3MB/512KB, and have both IPv4 and IPv6 connectivity. I note that last as whenever speed issues comes up the first thing someone recommends is turning of IPv6. I have miredo - Teredo IPv6 tunneling through NATs running full time. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
