Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook

2020-11-15 Thread Don Spam's Reckless Son 

dstamat wrote:

Dear All,

Since the introduction of the new Facebook interface, Seamonkey (Windows 64bit 
2.49.5) has become very sluggish. After a couple of minutes the RAM consumption 
reaches 2GB and freezes whenever I try to see pictures.

Is there a way to fix this?

Thanks in advance

Dimitri



I finally upgraded to a 2.53 level on the 10th (Tuesday)
On the 12th (Thursday) I vanished for a couple of days.
This is my first full day back and it has happened to me.
I have a performance monitor running all the time and it kept on showing 
peaks of 100% for a few seconds, running "top -i" in a konsole window 
made it clear that Seamonkey was causing this.  Then the system froze, 
totally.  The freeze included both "top" the other performance monitor, 
a program playing music in the background started repeating one second 
the way bad CDs sometimes do.  A ping from another system failed, all I 
could do was turn the machine off and then restart.

Seamonkey then came up cleanly with a restored session.
This is quite clearly a problem with 2.53.x, I ran 2.49.4 for two years 
and this did not happen even once.
The probably cause was a news page which checked for updates every few 
(12?) seconds.  If this looks like happening again I'll be closing tabs 
to see what stops it, 2.49.4 did not like Google Maps much but things 
never got to the stage where the entire system became totally unresponsive.

This is a 4-virtual-processor system.

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SMers vs. old Netscape users (Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook)

2020-10-29 Thread Scary Ant 

On 10/29/2020 3:31 AM, Slugracing wrote:
...
You are welcome to use it.  Definitely a matter of taste.  I have been 
using a suite since Netscape days and have no interest in changing at 
this late date.


Dave


I too have been using a suite since mid 90's but time has come and I 
moved every thing over to FF and TB a month or so ago, life has never 
been easier and less stressful. Ill keep looking here from time to time 
to reminisce.


Ditto. :( I guess all SMers are from the 90s? Are there any SMers who 
isn't from the 90s who used Netscape's suite products?

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Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook

2020-10-29 Thread Slugracing 

David H. Durgee wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

David H. Durgee wrote on 04-10-20 15:57:

Ray_Net wrote:

Stephen Katz wrote on 04-10-20 00:21:

On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 12:53:17 PM UTC-7, Ant wrote:

On 10/3/2020 11:38 AM, Stephen Katz wrote:
...

Youtube not a big issue. It's mostly the sites with ads. When it
freezes in the lower left says waiting for so-n-so. Why doesn't this
happen to Chrome? The STOP button doesn't work either. And you can't
close the window. Just the damn hourglass...
Is your SM better if you use an ad blocker with uBlock Origin? 
It's not
perfect, but it helps. Lots of web sites don't care for older 
browsers
like SeaMonkey that use older Gecko web browser engine (Firefox 
v57). If
you try the new Firefox v81.0.1, lots of web sites work fine even 
with

ads (not recommended IMO). :(
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If I am reading you all right Seamonkey has had it's day.  I am loathe
to change as it has been my friend for over 20-years.  My biggest
thing is the email, I am used to it and love it.  It pops right over
from Gmail.  Also being able to send a link.  Chrome doesn't do that.
I might as well for now run two browsers.  Sad...

"is the email, I am used to it and love it."
Why not using thunderbird ?

Have you seen the latest Thunderbird?  Ugh. I prefer SeaMonkey over both
Thunderbird and FireFox.  If someone could develop a SeaMonkey theme for
them perhaps I could tolerate them, but as is now I use FireFox only
when I absolutely must.

Dave

Thunderbird is more simple .. I appreciate it.


You are welcome to use it.  Definitely a matter of taste.  I have been 
using a suite since Netscape days and have no interest in changing at 
this late date.


Dave


I too have been using a suite since mid 90's but time has come and I 
moved every thing over to FF and TB a month or so ago, life has never 
been easier and less stressful. Ill keep looking here from time to time 
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Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook

2020-10-15 Thread Dirk Fieldhouse 

On 15/10/2020 10:13, Ray_Net wrote:
... > 
I have tried AdBlock Plus 
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-plus-pop-up-addon/


and the result is:

Oops! We can’t find that page
...


Install the Classic Add-ons Archive (40+MB) extension/add-on:


Then 

I don't remember trying this add-on, but its latest FF version is 33 
which is way behind current SM. Nonetheless it might work, after using 
the add-on converter  if necessary.


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Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook

2020-10-15 Thread Ray_Net 

rmpbklyn wrote on 15-10-20 01:42:

On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 5:16:12 PM UTC-4, dstamat wrote:

On Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 10:49:20 AM UTC+2, Ant wrote:

On 10/11/2020 1:43 AM, dstamat wrote:
...

Since it was mentioned, the reason I have not upgraded to 2.53.4, is that some 
extensions do not work there. I am hoping that soon Seamonkey will be 
compatible with all Firefox extensions. Until then it will be a struggle for 
all Seamonkey fans.

Which extensions?
--

The extensions that matter the most and which do not work in 2.53.4 are 
X-notifier 3.5.23 and Forecastfox (fix version) 2.4.8. These are the last 
versions that ever worked with Seamonkey. When Seamonkey becomes really 
compatible with WEBEXT extensions I will be able to use the latest versions now 
developed for Firefox. Until then I will either stay with 2.49.5 or move to 
Chrome.

Regards

Dimitris

try this site to find similar 
https://unofficialseamonkeynews.wordpress.com/2019/01/04/many-old-type-firefox-addons-lost/
I have tried AdBlock Plus 
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-plus-pop-up-addon/


and the result is:

Oops! We can’t find that page

If you’ve followed a link from another site for an extension or theme, 
that item is no longer available. This could be because:


 * The developer removed it. Developers commonly do this because they
   no longer support the extension or theme, or have replaced it.
 * Mozilla removed it. This can happen when issues are found during the
   review of the extension or theme, or the extension or theme has been
   abusing the terms and conditions for addons.mozilla.org. The
   developer has the opportunity to resolve the issues and make the
   add-on available again.

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Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook

2020-10-14 Thread rmpbklyn 
On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 5:16:12 PM UTC-4, dstamat wrote:
> On Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 10:49:20 AM UTC+2, Ant wrote: 
> > On 10/11/2020 1:43 AM, dstamat wrote: 
> > ... 
> > > Since it was mentioned, the reason I have not upgraded to 2.53.4, is that 
> > > some extensions do not work there. I am hoping that soon Seamonkey will 
> > > be compatible with all Firefox extensions. Until then it will be a 
> > > struggle for all Seamonkey fans. 
> > Which extensions? 
> > --
> The extensions that matter the most and which do not work in 2.53.4 are 
> X-notifier 3.5.23 and Forecastfox (fix version) 2.4.8. These are the last 
> versions that ever worked with Seamonkey. When Seamonkey becomes really 
> compatible with WEBEXT extensions I will be able to use the latest versions 
> now developed for Firefox. Until then I will either stay with 2.49.5 or move 
> to Chrome. 
> 
> Regards 
> 
> Dimitris
try this site to find similar 
https://unofficialseamonkeynews.wordpress.com/2019/01/04/many-old-type-firefox-addons-lost/
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Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook

2020-10-14 Thread rmpbklyn 
On Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 4:43:36 AM UTC-4, dstamat wrote:
> On Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 12:32:59 AM UTC+2, Ant wrote: 
> > On 10/10/2020 11:04 AM, oersted wrote:
> > > On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 02:20:19 -0700 (PDT), dstamat wrote: 
> > > 
> > >> Dear All, 
> > >> 
> > >> Since the introduction of the new Facebook interface, Seamonkey (Windows 
> > >> 64bit 2.49.5) has become very sluggish. After a couple of minutes the 
> > >> RAM consumption reaches 2GB and freezes whenever I try to see pictures. 
> > >> 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > SM 2.53.4 W10 2004 
> > > 16 Mb/s dsl (yes, the Dark Ages) 
> > > 
> > > I use the Hosts file at https://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.htm 
> > > 
> > > No ad blockers, etc. 
> > > 
> > > Facebook loads in maybe half a second. 
> > > 
> > > Youtube videos such as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP3GwusUtok loads 
> > > and plays in under a second. 
> > 
> > What's your PC's specifications like? Mine are over a decade old. 
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> 
> I use a fairly recent Win10 Dell laptop with i7 processor and 24GB of RAM. I 
> recently upgraded it from 8GB to 24GB RAM hoping that it will make Seamonkey 
> run better but with no luck. Even with such spec Seamonkey is sluggish and 
> freezes at some sites. 
> 
> Since it was mentioned, the reason I have not upgraded to 2.53.4, is that 
> some extensions do not work there. I am hoping that soon Seamonkey will be 
> compatible with all Firefox extensions. Until then it will be a struggle for 
> all Seamonkey fans. 
> 
> Regards 
> 
> Dimitris
ditto, im still on 2.29, i use  febe which save the xpi.  checkCompatibility to 
turn off the restriction, it only now shows yellow but can install the xpi. you 
can find many xpi files on github
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Re: news.mozilla.org's missing posts issue again? Was "Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook".

2020-10-13 Thread Somebody or Other 

A Williams wrote:

I looked in 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.support.seamonkey/iRwL__dw6ZE 
and don't seem to see them. What happened to its threading branches? :(


Having seen that information, posts by GerardJan are considered to be 
spam on this group and are filtered - after a delay of several hours - 
on the server.  No idea whether a script is used or if the moderation is 
done by hand.
Threads like this one are also not particularly welcomed by the 
moderator, that might explain why one of your postings (if I understood 
the sender-description) vanished.
This is a Mozilla-Help Forum, although I agree that posts vanishing is 
of interest.


Yes, there are certain senders that have gotten onto Chris Ilias's $#!+ 
list, and all their postings, no matter how helpful or innocuous, are 
routinely deleted from the newsgroup. I should know -- I posted one 
message back in November that he didn't like, and ever since, everything 
I send, no matter how I alter my name and sig, are deleted. I've even 
tried using a VPN to change my IP address, but somehow he detects me and 
purges the message.


Since it takes several hours, I must assume he's running the filter 
manually, and I can't imagine how he has the time to bother. No life, I 
guess... And once you get on the $#!+ list, there's no way off -- he 
doesn't reply to emails either here or off-list.


So if you want the full NG unsabotaged by his petty vindictiveness, you 
have to read it though Google Groups.

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Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook

2020-10-13 Thread Ant 

On 10/12/2020 2:16 PM, dstamat wrote:

On Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 10:49:20 AM UTC+2, Ant wrote:

On 10/11/2020 1:43 AM, dstamat wrote:
...

Since it was mentioned, the reason I have not upgraded to 2.53.4, is that some 
extensions do not work there. I am hoping that soon Seamonkey will be 
compatible with all Firefox extensions. Until then it will be a struggle for 
all Seamonkey fans.

Which extensions?
--


The extensions that matter the most and which do not work in 2.53.4 are 
X-notifier 3.5.23 and Forecastfox (fix version) 2.4.8. These are the last 
versions that ever worked with Seamonkey. When Seamonkey becomes really 
compatible with WEBEXT extensions I will be able to use the latest versions now 
developed for Firefox. Until then I will either stay with 2.49.5 or move to 
Chrome.


Not Firefox? I refuse to use Chrome, Edge, etc.
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Re: news.mozilla.org's missing posts issue again? Was "Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook".

2020-10-13 Thread A Williams 

Ant wrote:

On 10/11/2020 9:32 PM, Ant wrote:

I'm seeing missing newsgroup posts again with "Article not found

The newsgroup server reports that it can't find the article.

 Newsgroup server responded: no such article in group
 Perhaps the article has expired?
 Try searching for article: ..."

<77mdnuxityleyodcnz2dnuu7-ahnn...@mozilla.org> (116783) and 
 (116761).


I saw other threads too in the past too. I hope this post doesn't get 
lost. Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)


guwdndv5fijvrefcnz2dnuu7-vudn...@mozilla.org (116761) from me on 
10/4/2020 at 1:30 PM PDT.


77mdnuxityleyodcnz2dnuu7-ahnn...@mozilla.org (116783) from GerardJan on 
10/6/2020 at 10:42 PM PDT.


I looked in 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.support.seamonkey/iRwL__dw6ZE 
and don't seem to see them. What happened to its threading branches? :(


Having seen that information, posts by GerardJan are considered to be 
spam on this group and are filtered - after a delay of several hours - 
on the server.  No idea whether a script is used or if the moderation is 
done by hand.
Threads like this one are also not particularly welcomed by the 
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the sender-description) vanished.
This is a Mozilla-Help Forum, although I agree that posts vanishing is 
of interest.

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Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook

2020-10-12 Thread dstamat via support-seamonkey 
On Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 10:49:20 AM UTC+2, Ant wrote:
> On 10/11/2020 1:43 AM, dstamat wrote: 
> ...
> > Since it was mentioned, the reason I have not upgraded to 2.53.4, is that 
> > some extensions do not work there. I am hoping that soon Seamonkey will be 
> > compatible with all Firefox extensions. Until then it will be a struggle 
> > for all Seamonkey fans.
> Which extensions?
> -- 

The extensions that matter the most and which do not work in 2.53.4 are 
X-notifier 3.5.23 and Forecastfox (fix version) 2.4.8. These are the last 
versions that ever worked with Seamonkey. When Seamonkey becomes really 
compatible with WEBEXT extensions I will be able to use the latest versions now 
developed for Firefox. Until then I will either stay with 2.49.5 or move to 
Chrome.

Regards

Dimitris
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Re: news.mozilla.org's missing posts issue again? Was "Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook".

2020-10-12 Thread Ant 

On 10/11/2020 9:32 PM, Ant wrote:

I'm seeing missing newsgroup posts again with "Article not found

The newsgroup server reports that it can't find the article.

     Newsgroup server responded: no such article in group
     Perhaps the article has expired?
     Try searching for article: ..."

<77mdnuxityleyodcnz2dnuu7-ahnn...@mozilla.org> (116783) and 
 (116761).


I saw other threads too in the past too. I hope this post doesn't get 
lost. Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)


guwdndv5fijvrefcnz2dnuu7-vudn...@mozilla.org (116761) from me on 
10/4/2020 at 1:30 PM PDT.


77mdnuxityleyodcnz2dnuu7-ahnn...@mozilla.org (116783) from GerardJan on 
10/6/2020 at 10:42 PM PDT.


I looked in 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.support.seamonkey/iRwL__dw6ZE 
and don't seem to see them. What happened to its threading branches? :(

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Re: news.mozilla.org's missing posts issue again? Was "Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook".

2020-10-12 Thread A Williams 

Ant wrote:

I'm seeing missing newsgroup posts again with "Article not found

The newsgroup server reports that it can't find the article.

     Newsgroup server responded: no such article in group
     Perhaps the article has expired?
     Try searching for article: ..."

<77mdnuxityleyodcnz2dnuu7-ahnn...@mozilla.org> (116783) and 
 (116761).


I saw other threads too in the past too. I hope this post doesn't get 
lost. Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)


Who posted them?
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Re: news.mozilla.org's missing posts issue again? Was "Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook".

2020-10-12 Thread WaltS48 

On 10/12/20 12:32 AM, Ant wrote:

I'm seeing missing newsgroup posts again with "Article not found

The newsgroup server reports that it can't find the article.

     Newsgroup server responded: no such article in group
     Perhaps the article has expired?
     Try searching for article: ..."

<77mdnuxityleyodcnz2dnuu7-ahnn...@mozilla.org> (116783) and 
 (116761).


I saw other threads too in the past too. I hope this post doesn't get 
lost. Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)


Do you see them in the Google Groups archive for the newsgroup in question?

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news.mozilla.org's missing posts issue again? Was "Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook".

2020-10-11 Thread Ant 

I'm seeing missing newsgroup posts again with "Article not found

The newsgroup server reports that it can't find the article.

Newsgroup server responded: no such article in group
Perhaps the article has expired?
Try searching for article: ..."

<77mdnuxityleyodcnz2dnuu7-ahnn...@mozilla.org> (116783) and 
 (116761).


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Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook

2020-10-11 Thread Ray_Net 

Ant wrote on 11-10-20 10:49:

On 10/11/2020 1:43 AM, dstamat wrote:
...
Since it was mentioned, the reason I have not upgraded to 2.53.4, is 
that some extensions do not work there. I am hoping that soon 
Seamonkey will be compatible with all Firefox extensions. Until then 
it will be a struggle for all Seamonkey fans.


Which extensions?
There are a lot of extensions that have been created in the WEBEXT 
format which are not compatible with SM current version.

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Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook

2020-10-11 Thread Ant 

On 10/11/2020 1:43 AM, dstamat wrote:
...

Since it was mentioned, the reason I have not upgraded to 2.53.4, is that some 
extensions do not work there. I am hoping that soon Seamonkey will be 
compatible with all Firefox extensions. Until then it will be a struggle for 
all Seamonkey fans.


Which extensions?
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Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook

2020-10-11 Thread dstamat via support-seamonkey 
On Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 12:32:59 AM UTC+2, Ant wrote:
> On 10/10/2020 11:04 AM, oersted wrote:
> > On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 02:20:19 -0700 (PDT), dstamat wrote: 
> > 
> >> Dear All, 
> >> 
> >> Since the introduction of the new Facebook interface, Seamonkey (Windows 
> >> 64bit 2.49.5) has become very sluggish. After a couple of minutes the RAM 
> >> consumption reaches 2GB and freezes whenever I try to see pictures. 
> >> 
> > 
> >
> > SM 2.53.4 W10 2004 
> > 16 Mb/s dsl (yes, the Dark Ages) 
> > 
> > I use the Hosts file at https://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.htm 
> > 
> > No ad blockers, etc. 
> > 
> > Facebook loads in maybe half a second. 
> > 
> > Youtube videos such as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP3GwusUtok loads 
> > and plays in under a second. 
> 
> What's your PC's specifications like? Mine are over a decade old.
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Hi,

I use a fairly recent Win10 Dell laptop with i7 processor and 24GB of RAM. I 
recently upgraded it from 8GB to 24GB RAM hoping that it will make Seamonkey 
run better but with no luck. Even with such spec Seamonkey is sluggish and 
freezes at some sites.

Since it was mentioned, the reason I have not upgraded to 2.53.4, is that some 
extensions do not work there. I am hoping that soon Seamonkey will be 
compatible with all Firefox extensions. Until then it will be a struggle for 
all Seamonkey fans.

Regards

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Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook

2020-10-10 Thread Ant 

On 10/10/2020 11:04 AM, oersted wrote:

On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 02:20:19 -0700 (PDT), dstamat  wrote:


Dear All,

Since the introduction of the new Facebook interface, Seamonkey (Windows 64bit 
2.49.5) has become very sluggish. After a couple of minutes the RAM consumption 
reaches 2GB and freezes whenever I try to see pictures.




SM 2.53.4   W10 2004
16 Mb/s dsl  (yes, the Dark Ages)

I use the Hosts file at https://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.htm

No ad blockers, etc.

Facebook loads in maybe half a second.

Youtube videos such as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP3GwusUtok loads
and plays in under a second.


What's your PC's specifications like? Mine are over a decade old.
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Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook

2020-10-06 Thread David H. Durgee 

Ray_Net wrote:

David H. Durgee wrote on 04-10-20 15:57:

Ray_Net wrote:

Stephen Katz wrote on 04-10-20 00:21:

On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 12:53:17 PM UTC-7, Ant wrote:

On 10/3/2020 11:38 AM, Stephen Katz wrote:
...

Youtube not a big issue. It's mostly the sites with ads. When it
freezes in the lower left says waiting for so-n-so. Why doesn't this
happen to Chrome? The STOP button doesn't work either. And you can't
close the window. Just the damn hourglass...
Is your SM better if you use an ad blocker with uBlock Origin? It's 
not

perfect, but it helps. Lots of web sites don't care for older browsers
like SeaMonkey that use older Gecko web browser engine (Firefox 
v57). If

you try the new Firefox v81.0.1, lots of web sites work fine even with
ads (not recommended IMO). :(
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If I am reading you all right Seamonkey has had it's day.  I am loathe
to change as it has been my friend for over 20-years.  My biggest
thing is the email, I am used to it and love it.  It pops right over
from Gmail.  Also being able to send a link.  Chrome doesn't do that.
I might as well for now run two browsers.  Sad...

"is the email, I am used to it and love it."
Why not using thunderbird ?

Have you seen the latest Thunderbird?  Ugh. I prefer SeaMonkey over both
Thunderbird and FireFox.  If someone could develop a SeaMonkey theme for
them perhaps I could tolerate them, but as is now I use FireFox only
when I absolutely must.

Dave

Thunderbird is more simple .. I appreciate it.


You are welcome to use it.  Definitely a matter of taste.  I have been 
using a suite since Netscape days and have no interest in changing at 
this late date.


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Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook

2020-10-06 Thread Ray_Net 

David H. Durgee wrote on 04-10-20 15:57:

Ray_Net wrote:

Stephen Katz wrote on 04-10-20 00:21:

On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 12:53:17 PM UTC-7, Ant wrote:

On 10/3/2020 11:38 AM, Stephen Katz wrote:
...

Youtube not a big issue. It's mostly the sites with ads. When it
freezes in the lower left says waiting for so-n-so. Why doesn't this
happen to Chrome? The STOP button doesn't work either. And you can't
close the window. Just the damn hourglass...

Is your SM better if you use an ad blocker with uBlock Origin? It's not
perfect, but it helps. Lots of web sites don't care for older browsers
like SeaMonkey that use older Gecko web browser engine (Firefox v57). If
you try the new Firefox v81.0.1, lots of web sites work fine even with
ads (not recommended IMO). :(
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If I am reading you all right Seamonkey has had it's day.  I am loathe
to change as it has been my friend for over 20-years.  My biggest
thing is the email, I am used to it and love it.  It pops right over
from Gmail.  Also being able to send a link.  Chrome doesn't do that.
I might as well for now run two browsers.  Sad...

"is the email, I am used to it and love it."
Why not using thunderbird ?

Have you seen the latest Thunderbird?  Ugh. I prefer SeaMonkey over both
Thunderbird and FireFox.  If someone could develop a SeaMonkey theme for
them perhaps I could tolerate them, but as is now I use FireFox only
when I absolutely must.

Dave

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Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook

2020-10-05 Thread Yamo' 
Hi,

dstamat a tapoté le 03/10/2020 11:20:
> Since the introduction of the new Facebook interface, Seamonkey (Windows 
> 64bit 2.49.5) has become very sluggish. After a couple of minutes the RAM 
> consumption reaches 2GB and freezes whenever I try to see pictures. 


You should upgrade your Seamonkey, the last one is 2.53.4 :


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Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook

2020-10-04 Thread Ant 

On 10/3/2020 3:21 PM, Stephen Katz wrote:
...

If I am reading you all right Seamonkey has had it's day.  I am loathe to 
change as it has been my friend for over 20-years.  My biggest thing is the 
email, I am used to it and love it.  It pops right over from Gmail.  Also being 
able to send a link.  Chrome doesn't do that.
I might as well for now run two browsers.  Sad...


Yea, I still love SM since I had been a suite user since Netscape's 
days. I really hope SM gets the newer Geck web browser engines soon so 
it can be fast as current Firefox's. If it gets worse, then I will have 
to use Firefox (don't like its GUI) and Thunderbird separately. :(

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Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook

2020-10-04 Thread David H. Durgee 
Ray_Net wrote:
> Stephen Katz wrote on 04-10-20 00:21:
>> On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 12:53:17 PM UTC-7, Ant wrote:
>>> On 10/3/2020 11:38 AM, Stephen Katz wrote:
>>> ...
 Youtube not a big issue. It's mostly the sites with ads. When it
 freezes in the lower left says waiting for so-n-so. Why doesn't this
 happen to Chrome? The STOP button doesn't work either. And you can't
 close the window. Just the damn hourglass...
>>> Is your SM better if you use an ad blocker with uBlock Origin? It's not
>>> perfect, but it helps. Lots of web sites don't care for older browsers
>>> like SeaMonkey that use older Gecko web browser engine (Firefox v57). If
>>> you try the new Firefox v81.0.1, lots of web sites work fine even with
>>> ads (not recommended IMO). :(
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>> If I am reading you all right Seamonkey has had it's day.  I am loathe
>> to change as it has been my friend for over 20-years.  My biggest
>> thing is the email, I am used to it and love it.  It pops right over
>> from Gmail.  Also being able to send a link.  Chrome doesn't do that.
>> I might as well for now run two browsers.  Sad...
> "is the email, I am used to it and love it."
> Why not using thunderbird ?

Have you seen the latest Thunderbird?  Ugh. I prefer SeaMonkey over both
Thunderbird and FireFox.  If someone could develop a SeaMonkey theme for
them perhaps I could tolerate them, but as is now I use FireFox only
when I absolutely must.

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Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook

2020-10-04 Thread Ray_Net 

Stephen Katz wrote on 04-10-20 00:21:

On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 12:53:17 PM UTC-7, Ant wrote:

On 10/3/2020 11:38 AM, Stephen Katz wrote:
...

Youtube not a big issue. It's mostly the sites with ads. When it freezes in the 
lower left says waiting for so-n-so. Why doesn't this happen to Chrome? The 
STOP button doesn't work either. And you can't close the window. Just the damn 
hourglass...

Is your SM better if you use an ad blocker with uBlock Origin? It's not
perfect, but it helps. Lots of web sites don't care for older browsers
like SeaMonkey that use older Gecko web browser engine (Firefox v57). If
you try the new Firefox v81.0.1, lots of web sites work fine even with
ads (not recommended IMO). :(
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--/// /_ |_/ _) /""|/|/ |_] /=_ /_ /=_ _)
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email, I am used to it and love it.  It pops right over from Gmail.  Also being 
able to send a link.  Chrome doesn't do that.
I might as well for now run two browsers.  Sad...

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Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook

2020-10-03 Thread Daniel 

Stephen Katz wrote on 4/10/2020 9:21 AM:

On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 12:53:17 PM UTC-7, Ant wrote:

On 10/3/2020 11:38 AM, Stephen Katz wrote: ...

Youtube not a big issue. It's mostly the sites with ads. When it
freezes in the lower left says waiting for so-n-so. Why doesn't
this happen to Chrome? The STOP button doesn't work either. And
you can't close the window. Just the damn hourglass...

>>

Is your SM better if you use an ad blocker with uBlock Origin? It's
not perfect, but it helps. Lots of web sites don't care for older
browsers like SeaMonkey that use older Gecko web browser engine
(Firefox v57). If you try the new Firefox v81.0.1, lots of web
sites work fine even with ads (not recommended IMO). :-) >

If I am reading you all right Seamonkey has had it's day.  I am
loathe to change as it has been my friend for over 20-years.  My
biggest thing is the email, I am used to it and love it.  It pops
right over from Gmail.  Also being able to send a link.  Chrome
doesn't do that. I might as well for now run two browsers.  Sad...

"SeaMonkey has had it's day"  not quite ... but the limited team of 
SM Developers also have Day Jobs, Families, etc, that take up 
development time  and they do it for FREE.


Give them a chance, they'll get there!
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Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook

2020-10-03 Thread Paul Bergsagel 

WaltS48 wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 10/3/2020 9:58 AM, Stephen Katz wrote:
...
My Seamonkey freezes on almost every major site.  Yahoo, Washington 
Post, Nextdoor, to name a few.  Google Chrome has no problem with the 
same sites.


Me too with LinkedIn, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, MyArlo, etc. 
Nextdoor is a little slow. Firefox v81.0.1 is fine.


No Problem with YouTube here.



Not that link anyway. SM 2.54.3 with no extensions on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS.

You know the drill. Safe mode, that don't work try a new profile.
Good Luck and enjoy the music.
Ant I think you may be on to something here.  I am running WG9s build 
2.53.5 beta (User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; 
rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.5).


I have no add ons, just the plain vanilla SeaMonkey and I am using the 
latest MacOS.  I rarely have web pages lock up on me, have the browser 
crash.  I may have the odd unresponsive script or a form button fail to 
respond, but for 95% of my browsing SeaMonkey just works (though on some 
of the more complex sites the browser does slow down).


I suspect those SeaMonkey users having crashes it is the addons not 
SeaMonkey that is causing the issues.

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Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook

2020-10-03 Thread Stephen Katz 
On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 12:53:17 PM UTC-7, Ant wrote:
> On 10/3/2020 11:38 AM, Stephen Katz wrote: 
> ...
> > Youtube not a big issue. It's mostly the sites with ads. When it freezes in 
> > the lower left says waiting for so-n-so. Why doesn't this happen to Chrome? 
> > The STOP button doesn't work either. And you can't close the window. Just 
> > the damn hourglass...
> Is your SM better if you use an ad blocker with uBlock Origin? It's not 
> perfect, but it helps. Lots of web sites don't care for older browsers 
> like SeaMonkey that use older Gecko web browser engine (Firefox v57). If 
> you try the new Firefox v81.0.1, lots of web sites work fine even with 
> ads (not recommended IMO). :(
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email, I am used to it and love it.  It pops right over from Gmail.  Also being 
able to send a link.  Chrome doesn't do that.  
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Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook

2020-10-03 Thread Ant 

On 10/3/2020 11:38 AM, Stephen Katz wrote:
...

Youtube not a big issue.  It's mostly the sites with ads.  When it freezes in 
the lower left says waiting for so-n-so.  Why doesn't this happen to Chrome?  
The STOP button doesn't work either.  And you can't close the window.  Just the 
damn hourglass...


Is your SM better if you use an ad blocker with uBlock Origin? It's not 
perfect, but it helps. Lots of web sites don't care for older browsers 
like SeaMonkey that use older Gecko web browser engine (Firefox v57). If 
you try the new Firefox v81.0.1, lots of web sites work fine even with 
ads (not recommended IMO). :(

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Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook

2020-10-03 Thread WaltS48 

On 10/3/20 1:43 PM, Ant wrote:

On 10/3/2020 10:38 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
...

No Problem with YouTube here.



Not that link anyway. SM 2.54.3 with no extensions on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS.


In my decade old, updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC (6 GB of RAM, 2 SATA 
HDDs, etc.), it took about 12 secs. to fully load and render. Its chat 
feature made it even slower until I closed it. :( I wished YouTube would 
keep its old web site design that was way faster. The workaround hacks 
don't work anymore. :(


Why no extensions? You love ads and don't care about your privacy?


I use Firefox Nightly 83.0a1 as my production browser with uBlock 
Origin, Privacy Badger, CSS Exfil Protection, and NJS extensions with 
the Standard tracking protection enabled.


SM is around to help users if and when I can.

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Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook

2020-10-03 Thread Stephen Katz 
On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 10:43:50 AM UTC-7, Ant wrote:
> On 10/3/2020 10:38 AM, WaltS48 wrote: 
> ...
> > No Problem with YouTube here. 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Not that link anyway. SM 2.54.3 with no extensions on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS.
> In my decade old, updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC (6 GB of RAM, 2 SATA 
> HDDs, etc.), it took about 12 secs. to fully load and render. Its chat 
> feature made it even slower until I closed it. :( I wished YouTube would 
> keep its old web site design that was way faster. The workaround hacks 
> don't work anymore. :( 
> 
> Why no extensions? You love ads and don't care about your privacy?
> -- 
> Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see 
> this signature correctly. 
> Go Los Angeles _..n-"""/""--.._ 
> (L.A.) Lakers! .n' _.-\-""("""--._`-. 
> Cool Miami ' .\' \ `. ``";. 
> Heat! ___/_-" | \ `. `. 
> ===/// , ,-. .- .-; , , ,- ,L , ,_ ,- 
> --/// /_ |_/ _) /""|/|/ |_] /=_ /_ /=_ _) 
> ___/// __ __ __ __  | ___ 
> /// --/|| --// .' // "/ _// ))|(| "/ 
> ---/// /' || _//.; __//_. //_="' _\\ 
> --///- -/---|| //'|| // ', _// ;| \\ ; 
> __///|__/_ _||_/< `||_//__"/ _// --|\ /-._// / 
> _/// | , | \ ---\\\ .' 
> ___///_"/ | \ /`;=__.-' 
> \ \ \ / 
> ASCII art by `. \ \ ,' 
> -bodom- `. \ \ ,' 
> Remove ANT `-._ \ \ _.-' 
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Youtube not a big issue.  It's mostly the sites with ads.  When it freezes in 
the lower left says waiting for so-n-so.  Why doesn't this happen to Chrome?  
The STOP button doesn't work either.  And you can't close the window.  Just the 
damn hourglass...
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Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook

2020-10-03 Thread Ant 

On 10/3/2020 10:38 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
...

No Problem with YouTube here.



Not that link anyway. SM 2.54.3 with no extensions on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS.


In my decade old, updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC (6 GB of RAM, 2 SATA 
HDDs, etc.), it took about 12 secs. to fully load and render. Its chat 
feature made it even slower until I closed it. :( I wished YouTube would 
keep its old web site design that was way faster. The workaround hacks 
don't work anymore. :(


Why no extensions? You love ads and don't care about your privacy?
--
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this signature correctly.

Go Los Angeles  _..n-"""/""--.._
(L.A.) Lakers!   .n' _.-\-""("""--._`-.
Cool Miami  ' .\'   \   `.  ``";.
Heat!  ___/_-"  |\`. `.
 ===///, ,-. .-   .-; , , ,-  ,L  ,  ,_ ,-
 --////_ |_/ _)  /""|/|/ |_] /=_ /_ /=_ _)
   ___///____  __  __   |  ___
 ///  --/||  --// .'   //  "/ _//  ))|(|  "/
 ---///   /' ||  _//.;  __//_.//_="'  _\\
 --///- -/---||  //'||   //  ', _//  ;| \\ ;
__///|__/_  _||_/<  `||_//__"/ _// --|\ /-._///
_///  |   ,   |  \ ---\\\   .'
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Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook

2020-10-03 Thread WaltS48 

Ant wrote:

On 10/3/2020 9:58 AM, Stephen Katz wrote:
...
My Seamonkey freezes on almost every major site.  Yahoo, Washington 
Post, Nextdoor, to name a few.  Google Chrome has no problem with the 
same sites.


Me too with LinkedIn, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, MyArlo, etc. Nextdoor 
is a little slow. Firefox v81.0.1 is fine.


No Problem with YouTube here.



Not that link anyway. SM 2.54.3 with no extensions on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS.

You know the drill. Safe mode, that don't work try a new profile.
Good Luck and enjoy the music.
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Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook

2020-10-03 Thread Ant 

On 10/3/2020 9:58 AM, Stephen Katz wrote:
...

My Seamonkey freezes on almost every major site.  Yahoo, Washington Post, 
Nextdoor, to name a few.  Google Chrome has no problem with the same sites.


Me too with LinkedIn, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, MyArlo, etc. Nextdoor 
is a little slow. Firefox v81.0.1 is fine.




Can this be fixed?  It locks up so bad I have to reboot!


The problem is that SeaMonkey uses older Gecko web browser engine (what 
Firefox v57 uses IIRC). We have to wait for the developers to release a 
stable version and that will be a very long time. :( Reboot? That's not 
good. Can't you just kill SeaMonkey's process instead?

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Go Los Angeles  _..n-"""/""--.._
(L.A.) Lakers!   .n' _.-\-""("""--._`-.
Cool Miami  ' .\'   \   `.  ``";.
Heat!  ___/_-"  |\`. `.
 ===///, ,-. .-   .-; , , ,-  ,L  ,  ,_ ,-
 --////_ |_/ _)  /""|/|/ |_] /=_ /_ /=_ _)
   ___///____  __  __   |  ___
 ///  --/||  --// .'   //  "/ _//  ))|(|  "/
 ---///   /' ||  _//.;  __//_.//_="'  _\\
 --///- -/---||  //'||   //  ', _//  ;| \\ ;
__///|__/_  _||_/<  `||_//__"/ _// --|\ /-._///
_///  |   ,   |  \ ---\\\   .'
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Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook

2020-10-03 Thread Stephen Katz 
On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 5:07:16 AM UTC-7, GerardJan wrote:
> dstamat wrote on 10/3/20 11:20 AM:
> > Dear All, 
> > 
> > Since the introduction of the new Facebook interface, Seamonkey (Windows 
> > 64bit 2.49.5) has become very sluggish. After a couple of minutes the RAM 
> > consumption reaches 2GB and freezes whenever I try to see pictures. 
> > 
> > Is there a way to fix this? 
> > 
> > Thanks in advance 
> > 
> > Dimitri 
> >
> Use *Linux* that has an intellligent memory management 
> 
> -- 
> GérardJan Vinkesteijn-Rudersdorff 
> 
> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
> Firefox/60.0 
> SeaMonkey/2.53.3 
> Build identifier: 20200606200440 
> 
> If A equals success, then the formula is A = X + Y + Z. 
> X is work. Y is play. Z is keep your mouth shut. 
> -- Albert Einstein

My Seamonkey freezes on almost every major site.  Yahoo, Washington Post, 
Nextdoor, to name a few.  Google Chrome has no problem with the same sites.

Can this be fixed?  It locks up so bad I have to reboot! 
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Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook

2020-10-03 Thread dstamat via support-seamonkey 
Dear All,

Since the introduction of the new Facebook interface, Seamonkey (Windows 64bit 
2.49.5) has become very sluggish. After a couple of minutes the RAM consumption 
reaches 2GB and freezes whenever I try to see pictures. 

Is there a way to fix this?

Thanks in advance

Dimitri
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