Re: Synchronize Mail ???
Leonidas Jones wrote: Willard wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Willard wrote: Is there a way to add only the new mail to PC#1 from PC#2 and visa versa in each profile using 1.1.18 on WinXPproSP3 ??? Can you give a whole lot more information about your setup and what you are trying to accomplish? Your question as stated is requiring us to guess way to much. Lee For instance: PC-1 Profile-A has messages dated 2-11-10 in the Inbox, Drafts, Templets, Sent, Trash... PC-2 Profile-A has messages dated 2-10-10 in the Inbox, Drafts, Templets, Sent, Trash... How can I add all of the PC-1 2-11-10 messages to PC-2 Profile-A, and all of the PC-2 2-10-10 messages to PC-1 Profile-A; using a flash drive to copy to and from PC-1 to PC-2??? You still don't tell us whether these are POP or IMAP accounts. I assume POP, since IMAP mail would almost certainly be left on the server. Navigate to your profile folder on one of the computers, find the mail subfolder then the subfolder for the account from which you wish to transfer data. Copy the files Inbox, Drafts, Sent, whatever, without extension. Copy these files to your flash drive. Rename them to something like Oldinbox, etc. Paste these renamed files into the profile of your second computer, alongside the existing Inbox, etc. Open SeaMonkey. You will see new folders in your folderpane, called Oldinbox, etc. Drag and drop messages to reorganize them as you wish. You then recopy the combined files and transfer them to the original computer. To simplify this in the future, set one of the machines to leave a copy of messages on the server. Make sure that machine has received the messages before downloading them on the other machine, which would remove them from the server. There is no convenient way to do this for Drafts and Sent folders etc. at least on a POP account. Actually, there's a much more convenient way to do this for networked computers -- or in a setting where you can easily copy a folder from one computer to the other. I've been doing this for years, but haven't tested it yet on version 2. This assumes that only one computer at a time is being used to access the mail accounts, not that both computers are taking turns downloading mail, with each having some of the new mail. With SeaMonkey closed on both computers, navigate on the computer with the older version of your mail to C:\Documents and Settings\Your Name Here\Application Data\ and rename \Mozilla\ to \OldMozilla\. On the computer having the newer version of your mail folders, navigate to the corresponding directory and copy \Mozilla\ to the other computer (if the computers are networked, this copying step is very easy, but a flash drive works almost as well). By this technique, you copy not only your mail folders, but also all your other settings, including add-ons, plug-ins, etc. It's like cloning your mail program to another computer. Caution: results could be unexpected if you have different sets of plugins installed on the two computers -- for example, if one machine uses QuickTime to play certain types of video and the other doesn't have QuickTime. When you're satisfied that all is well on the second computer, feel free to delete \OldMozilla\. It would drive me bleeping crazy to hunt through dozens of folders and thousands of messages to synch individual messages by hand. A second technique I've used when I've only downloaded a few messages on the fresher computer is to establish a dummy mail folder such as Transfer to desktop. I copy (not move) those new messages to that folder, and then with SeaMonkey closed on the second computer, I copy that folder to its mail directory. When I launch SM on the second computer, the folder is there, and I can then file the new messages as desired. I don't have to hunt for them because they're all in Transfer to desktop. Of course, I can later do the same thing in the other direction because copying that folder to the other computer will overwrite the original \Transfer to desktop\ without doing any harm, since it contains only copies of messages already synched. But as noted above, this technique is only practical for a very limited number of messages easily found. If the two machine are on a local network, it is possible to have both machines point to a common profile on a shared network drive. However, this does cause a very noticeable performance slowdown. The ultimate answer for this kind of synching is to switch to IMAP accounts, where all these folders are stored on the server, and thus available on any computer. Sure. But that wasn't the OP's question. He was looking for an automatic way for the program to analyze the contents of SeaMonkey's mail folders on two computers and make sure both had the latest copies of everything. You know, synch them. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher
Re: Synchronize Mail ???
On 2/12/2010 4:26 AM, Willard wrote: Is there a way to add only the new mail to PC#1 from PC#2 and visa versa in each profile using 1.1.18 on WinXPproSP3 ??? What you are trying to do can be done, but it is not exactly easy and I do not know how this could be automated. Personally, I would go along those lines: - In your destination machine, create a dummy mail account (pick a name that will be obvious to you), being careful to choose a unique (as opposed to existing) location in Server Settings, Local Directory. - Replicate the directories of origination machine so that the structure of the account is the exact replica of your normal account. - TB being closed, copy all mail files (the ones without extension) to their corresponding location in the dummy account of the destination machine. - When this is, you find yourself with: 1) the account you want to update 2) a copy of the account holding new mail in the dumming account. So far, this sound like a lot of work, but it is easy, you just need to be methodical not to mess up. Now, the fun part: Go into the dummy account and for each subfolder, identify the emails you need to move so that the normal account integrates the new emails. It might as simple as looking at dates (if the two machines where not used concurrently) or it can be quite messy if you need to look at emails one by one ... Once you have selected the emails, it is simply a matter of moving them from the dummy account to the corresponding subfolder of the normal account. Of course, this is realistic only to the extent you are not dealing with too many accounts. Otherwise, as David mentionned, you need to go IMAP. I hope I understood right what you want to do and that I explained relatively clearly the procedure I occasionally use when two of my machines have been used concurrently. One much simpler approach, if you are dealing with only a few new emails, is to consolidate them in an empty subfolder (say, drafs for exemple). Then, make sure the same subfolder is empty in the destination machine (file size of Draft - no extension - should be zero after compacting) and overwrite the Draft file in the destination machine with the Draft file containing new mails. Then you just need to dispatch the new mails where they belong. Much easier, but valid only for a few emails ... -- John Doue ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Synchronize Mail ???
Leonidas Jones wrote: Willard wrote: Is there a way to add only the new mail to PC#1 from PC#2 and visa versa in each profile using 1.1.18 on WinXPproSP3 ??? Can you give a whole lot more information about your setup and what you are trying to accomplish? Your question as stated is requiring us to guess way to much. Lee For instance: PC-1 Profile-A has messages dated 2-11-10 in the Inbox, Drafts, Templets, Sent, Trash... PC-2 Profile-A has messages dated 2-10-10 in the Inbox, Drafts, Templets, Sent, Trash... How can I add all of the PC-1 2-11-10 messages to PC-2 Profile-A, and all of the PC-2 2-10-10 messages to PC-1 Profile-A; using a flash drive to copy to and from PC-1 to PC-2??? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Synchronize Mail ???
Interviewed by CNN on 12/2/2010 01:44, David Wilkinson told the world: Willard wrote: Is there a way to add only the new mail to PC#1 from PC#2 and visa versa in each profile using 1.1.18 on WinXPproSP3 ??? Probably not an answer to your question, but this is what IMAP mail is for. While IMAP is doubtless the best answer, sometimes it's just not available -- many e-mail providers are still POP-only, or IMAP is a premium option. I hope with users discovering that Gmail offers free IMAP, that scenario will improve. But right now... A workaround is to set up both computers to keep the messages in the POP mailbox for a few days. That way, both can download the messages before it being erased. It works very well for non-simultaneously-used computers (say, one at home and one at the office), but some servers get confused if both computers try to access the account at the same time. Though I have never ran into that problem, even in a company where eight people accessed the same mailbox, so I guess newer servers can handle it. OTOH, I have ran into a ISP that ignored the keep messages in the mailbox after downloading option -- no matter how you set your client up, after downloading your messages were deleted. I talked to their support, and that behavior was by design. So the POP-workaround is not guaranteed to work in all cases either. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... BOFH excuse #18: excess surge protection *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.0.2 * http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Synchronize Mail ???
Willard wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Willard wrote: Is there a way to add only the new mail to PC#1 from PC#2 and visa versa in each profile using 1.1.18 on WinXPproSP3 ??? Can you give a whole lot more information about your setup and what you are trying to accomplish? Your question as stated is requiring us to guess way to much. Lee For instance: PC-1 Profile-A has messages dated 2-11-10 in the Inbox, Drafts, Templets, Sent, Trash... PC-2 Profile-A has messages dated 2-10-10 in the Inbox, Drafts, Templets, Sent, Trash... How can I add all of the PC-1 2-11-10 messages to PC-2 Profile-A, and all of the PC-2 2-10-10 messages to PC-1 Profile-A; using a flash drive to copy to and from PC-1 to PC-2??? You still don't tell us whether these are POP or IMAP accounts. I assume POP, since IMAP mail would almost certainly be left on the server. Navigate to your profile folder on one of the computers, find the mail subfolder then the subfolder for the account from which you wish to transfer data. Copy the files Inbox, Drafts, Sent, whatever, without extension. Copy these files to your flash drive. Rename them to something like Oldinbox, etc. Paste these renamed files into the profile of your second computer, alongside the existing Inbox, etc. Open SeaMonkey. You will see new folders in your folderpane, called Oldinbox, etc. Drag and drop messages to reorganize them as you wish. You then recopy the combined files and transfer them to the original computer. To simplify this in the future, set one of the machines to leave a copy of messages on the server. Make sure that machine has received the messages before downloading them on the other machine, which would remove them from the server. There is no convenient way to do this for Drafts and Sent folders etc. at least on a POP account. If the two machine are on a local network, it is possible to have both machines point to a common profile on a shared network drive. However, this does cause a very noticeable performance slowdown. The ultimate answer for this kind of synching is to switch to IMAP accounts, where all these folders are stored on the server, and thus available on any computer. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Synchronize Mail ???
Leonidas Jones wrote: Willard wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Willard wrote: Is there a way to add only the new mail to PC#1 from PC#2 and visa versa in each profile using 1.1.18 on WinXPproSP3 ??? Can you give a whole lot more information about your setup and what you are trying to accomplish? Your question as stated is requiring us to guess way to much. Lee For instance: PC-1 Profile-A has messages dated 2-11-10 in the Inbox, Drafts, Templets, Sent, Trash... PC-2 Profile-A has messages dated 2-10-10 in the Inbox, Drafts, Templets, Sent, Trash... How can I add all of the PC-1 2-11-10 messages to PC-2 Profile-A, and all of the PC-2 2-10-10 messages to PC-1 Profile-A; using a flash drive to copy to and from PC-1 to PC-2??? You still don't tell us whether these are POP or IMAP accounts. I assume POP, since IMAP mail would almost certainly be left on the server. Navigate to your profile folder on one of the computers, find the mail subfolder then the subfolder for the account from which you wish to transfer data. Copy the files Inbox, Drafts, Sent, whatever, without extension. Copy these files to your flash drive. Rename them to something like Oldinbox, etc. Paste these renamed files into the profile of your second computer, alongside the existing Inbox, etc. Open SeaMonkey. You will see new folders in your folderpane, called Oldinbox, etc. Drag and drop messages to reorganize them as you wish. You then recopy the combined files and transfer them to the original computer. To simplify this in the future, set one of the machines to leave a copy of messages on the server. Make sure that machine has received the messages before downloading them on the other machine, which would remove them from the server. There is no convenient way to do this for Drafts and Sent folders etc. at least on a POP account. If the two machine are on a local network, it is possible to have both machines point to a common profile on a shared network drive. However, this does cause a very noticeable performance slowdown. The ultimate answer for this kind of synching is to switch to IMAP accounts, where all these folders are stored on the server, and thus available on any computer. Lee Looks like no easy way... This is Seamonkey-Mail, @comcast.net.. Going to IMAP means changing many ID's addresses on many Web Pages... I have a lot to consider.. Thanks so much for the information, Lee... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Synchronize Mail ???
Willard wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Willard wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Willard wrote: Is there a way to add only the new mail to PC#1 from PC#2 and visa versa in each profile using 1.1.18 on WinXPproSP3 ??? Can you give a whole lot more information about your setup and what you are trying to accomplish? Your question as stated is requiring us to guess way to much. Lee For instance: PC-1 Profile-A has messages dated 2-11-10 in the Inbox, Drafts, Templets, Sent, Trash... PC-2 Profile-A has messages dated 2-10-10 in the Inbox, Drafts, Templets, Sent, Trash... How can I add all of the PC-1 2-11-10 messages to PC-2 Profile-A, and all of the PC-2 2-10-10 messages to PC-1 Profile-A; using a flash drive to copy to and from PC-1 to PC-2??? You still don't tell us whether these are POP or IMAP accounts. I assume POP, since IMAP mail would almost certainly be left on the server. Navigate to your profile folder on one of the computers, find the mail subfolder then the subfolder for the account from which you wish to transfer data. Copy the files Inbox, Drafts, Sent, whatever, without extension. Copy these files to your flash drive. Rename them to something like Oldinbox, etc. Paste these renamed files into the profile of your second computer, alongside the existing Inbox, etc. Open SeaMonkey. You will see new folders in your folderpane, called Oldinbox, etc. Drag and drop messages to reorganize them as you wish. You then recopy the combined files and transfer them to the original computer. To simplify this in the future, set one of the machines to leave a copy of messages on the server. Make sure that machine has received the messages before downloading them on the other machine, which would remove them from the server. There is no convenient way to do this for Drafts and Sent folders etc. at least on a POP account. If the two machine are on a local network, it is possible to have both machines point to a common profile on a shared network drive. However, this does cause a very noticeable performance slowdown. The ultimate answer for this kind of synching is to switch to IMAP accounts, where all these folders are stored on the server, and thus available on any computer. Lee Looks like no easy way... This is Seamonkey-Mail, @comcast.net.. Going to IMAP means changing many ID's addresses on many Web Pages... I have a lot to consider.. Thanks so much for the information, Lee... Well, there are other options. First, the profile on a network share. If that share is a local hard disk on one of the computers, that computer will access the profile at normal speed. The other computer will be slow. I have a system for keeping my desktop synchronized with my notebook, if that is part of the issue. While each installation has its own profile, I keep all the mail/rss/news data on a portable flash drive, and use the Local Directory field in Mail Newsgroup Account Settings to point to the folders on the flash drive. At home, it is plugged into the desktop, and on the road it is plugged into the notebook. each runs at pretty much normal speed. I can mount the flash drive as a network share at home to access it from another computer, but it does cause SeaMonkey to run slowly. Actuall, at home, I use VNC to look at the screen of the iMac if I am on another computer. There is a way aroud almost everything. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Synchronize Mail ???
Is there a way to add only the new mail to PC#1 from PC#2 and visa versa in each profile using 1.1.18 on WinXPproSP3 ??? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Synchronize Mail ???
Willard wrote: Is there a way to add only the new mail to PC#1 from PC#2 and visa versa in each profile using 1.1.18 on WinXPproSP3 ??? Can you give a whole lot more information about your setup and what you are trying to accomplish? Your question as stated is requiring us to guess way to much. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Synchronize Mail ???
Willard wrote: Is there a way to add only the new mail to PC#1 from PC#2 and visa versa in each profile using 1.1.18 on WinXPproSP3 ??? Probably not an answer to your question, but this is what IMAP mail is for. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Synchronize Mail on 2 PCs??
Roger Fink wrote: Willard wrote: Is there a way to synchronize the Mail, Local Folders, and News on two computers so that both SeaMonkey computer files are up to date and duplicate?? Willard One option is to use a dedicated sync program, such as Syncback, to sync your mail to a removable drive of some sort. You can then connect the removable drive to your second computer and sync it in the other direction - from removable to the computer. There is a learning curve involved in setting up and using the program (which would need to be installed on both computers) but it's really not very difficult. I use Syncback - it's free, and IMO works very well. Personnaly i uses Synchronize It! from http://www.grigsoft.com/ also free , but be aware that you may synchronize *only* when SM is not running. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Synchronize Mail on 2 PCs??
Roger Fink wrote: Willard wrote: Is there a way to synchronize the Mail, Local Folders, and News on two computers so that both SeaMonkey computer files are up to date and duplicate?? Willard One option is to use a dedicated sync program, such as Syncback, to sync your mail to a removable drive of some sort. You can then connect the removable drive to your second computer and sync it in the other direction - from removable to the computer. There is a learning curve involved in setting up and using the program (which would need to be installed on both computers) but it's really not very difficult. I use Syncback - it's free, and IMO works very well. Thanks, I'll try it.. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Synchronize Mail on 2 PCs??
Is there a way to synchronize the Mail, Local Folders, and News on two computers so that both SeaMonkey computer files are up to date and duplicate?? Willard ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Synchronize Mail on 2 PCs??
Willard wrote: Is there a way to synchronize the Mail, Local Folders, and News on two computers so that both SeaMonkey computer files are up to date and duplicate?? Willard One option is to use a dedicated sync program, such as Syncback, to sync your mail to a removable drive of some sort. You can then connect the removable drive to your second computer and sync it in the other direction - from removable to the computer. There is a learning curve involved in setting up and using the program (which would need to be installed on both computers) but it's really not very difficult. I use Syncback - it's free, and IMO works very well. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
