Re: multiple launch

2013-07-15 Thread Rick Merrill

On 7/13/2013 7:44 AM, Daniel wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/12/2013 6:08 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:

Sometimes I double click when I should not; consequently
multiple copies of browser and email/newsgroups are launched.

Is there any reason that SeaMonkey allows multiple launches?



My preferences are set to open a new tab when a Web link requests a new
window.  However, my preferences are also set to open a new window if a
non-browser application requests to display a Web page.  Thus, multiple
windows are not bad.


The way I read Rick's post is that he starts SM (browser and/or Mail as
appropriate), and then, because he's double-double clicked on the
desk-top icon, he gets a totally seperate second copy of SM (browser
and/or Mail as appropriate).


You don't have to do it that way. Double-click on a Mail/News folder or
account name and a second Mail/News window will open. And of course
there are lots of ways of opening a new browser window. Neither of these
means that more than one instance of SeaMonkey is running.

If I double-click on the SM desktop icon, or if I type the keyboard
shortcut I use to launch SM, or if I navigate through the Start menu to
the SeaMonkey program, any of these while SM is running, all I get is a
transfer of focus to the running instance of SM. A second one does not
launch as for example with MS Word. If I click a link more than once, I
get multiple copies of that browser window, but still only one instance
of the SM program.

So I'd say it's perfectly safe to close the extra window if you don't
need it. Don't worry about competing instances of the program writing to
the same mail/news folders.


But I think Rick wants to stop the double starting from happening in the first 
place!



True:-) but it really is my problem - I only asked because many other 
applications
do prevent multiple copies.  Yes, I sometimes do use multiple browser windows
and sometimes multiple tabs.

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Re: multiple launch

2013-07-14 Thread Ken Whiton
*-* On Fri, 12 Jul 2013, at 09:08:24 -0400,
*-* In Article mogdnvtuxapbyklmnz2dnuvz_vedn...@mozilla.org,
*-* Rick Merrill wrote
*-* About multiple launch

 Sometimes I double click when I should not; consequently
 multiple copies of browser and email/newsgroups are launched.

 Is there any reason that SeaMonkey allows multiple launches?

 That happens when the copy launched by the second click opens
before the first copy has a chance to set its lock file.  As a result,
the second copy doesn't see a lock file, and opens normally.
It's not that SeaMonkey is allowing multiple launches.  It's the
timing of events resulting from the double click that's the cause.
I agree with Ed Mullen's suggestion to adjust the mouse settings.  If
that doesn't work, just be more careful when clicking. ;-)

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Re: multiple launch

2013-07-14 Thread David E. Ross
On 7/14/2013 1:13 AM, Ken Whiton wrote:
 *-* On Fri, 12 Jul 2013, at 09:08:24 -0400,
 *-* In Article mogdnvtuxapbyklmnz2dnuvz_vedn...@mozilla.org,
 *-* Rick Merrill wrote
 *-* About multiple launch
 
 Sometimes I double click when I should not; consequently
 multiple copies of browser and email/newsgroups are launched.
 
 Is there any reason that SeaMonkey allows multiple launches?
 
  That happens when the copy launched by the second click opens
 before the first copy has a chance to set its lock file.  As a result,
 the second copy doesn't see a lock file, and opens normally.
 It's not that SeaMonkey is allowing multiple launches.  It's the
 timing of events resulting from the double click that's the cause.
 I agree with Ed Mullen's suggestion to adjust the mouse settings.  If
 that doesn't work, just be more careful when clicking. ;-)
 
 Ken Whiton
 

Having had SeaMonkey open and running for about 90 minutes, I very
easily caused a new window to open just now.  As I indicated earlier in
this thread, having multiple SeaMonkey windows is NOT a problem.  For
some users, this is exactly what they want.  Instead, Rick Merrill (who
started this thread) has already been advised to be more careful about
how he launches SeaMonkey.

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Re: multiple launch

2013-07-13 Thread Daniel

David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/12/2013 6:08 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:

Sometimes I double click when I should not; consequently
multiple copies of browser and email/newsgroups are launched.

Is there any reason that SeaMonkey allows multiple launches?



My preferences are set to open a new tab when a Web link requests a new
window.  However, my preferences are also set to open a new window if a
non-browser application requests to display a Web page.  Thus, multiple
windows are not bad.


The way I read Rick's post is that he starts SM (browser and/or Mail as 
appropriate), and then, because he's double-double clicked on the 
desk-top icon, he gets a totally seperate second copy of SM (browser 
and/or Mail as appropriate).


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Re: multiple launch

2013-07-13 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Daniel wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/12/2013 6:08 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:

Sometimes I double click when I should not; consequently
multiple copies of browser and email/newsgroups are launched.

Is there any reason that SeaMonkey allows multiple launches?



My preferences are set to open a new tab when a Web link requests a new
window.  However, my preferences are also set to open a new window if a
non-browser application requests to display a Web page.  Thus, multiple
windows are not bad.


The way I read Rick's post is that he starts SM (browser and/or Mail as
appropriate), and then, because he's double-double clicked on the
desk-top icon, he gets a totally seperate second copy of SM (browser
and/or Mail as appropriate).


You don't have to do it that way. Double-click on a Mail/News folder or 
account name and a second Mail/News window will open. And of course 
there are lots of ways of opening a new browser window. Neither of these 
means that more than one instance of SeaMonkey is running.


If I double-click on the SM desktop icon, or if I type the keyboard 
shortcut I use to launch SM, or if I navigate through the Start menu to 
the SeaMonkey program, any of these while SM is running, all I get is a 
transfer of focus to the running instance of SM. A second one does not 
launch as for example with MS Word. If I click a link more than once, I 
get multiple copies of that browser window, but still only one instance 
of the SM program.


So I'd say it's perfectly safe to close the extra window if you don't 
need it. Don't worry about competing instances of the program writing to 
the same mail/news folders.


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Re: multiple launch

2013-07-13 Thread Daniel

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/12/2013 6:08 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:

Sometimes I double click when I should not; consequently
multiple copies of browser and email/newsgroups are launched.

Is there any reason that SeaMonkey allows multiple launches?



My preferences are set to open a new tab when a Web link requests a new
window.  However, my preferences are also set to open a new window if a
non-browser application requests to display a Web page.  Thus, multiple
windows are not bad.


The way I read Rick's post is that he starts SM (browser and/or Mail as
appropriate), and then, because he's double-double clicked on the
desk-top icon, he gets a totally seperate second copy of SM (browser
and/or Mail as appropriate).


You don't have to do it that way. Double-click on a Mail/News folder or
account name and a second Mail/News window will open. And of course
there are lots of ways of opening a new browser window. Neither of these
means that more than one instance of SeaMonkey is running.

If I double-click on the SM desktop icon, or if I type the keyboard
shortcut I use to launch SM, or if I navigate through the Start menu to
the SeaMonkey program, any of these while SM is running, all I get is a
transfer of focus to the running instance of SM. A second one does not
launch as for example with MS Word. If I click a link more than once, I
get multiple copies of that browser window, but still only one instance
of the SM program.

So I'd say it's perfectly safe to close the extra window if you don't
need it. Don't worry about competing instances of the program writing to
the same mail/news folders.


But I think Rick wants to stop the double starting from happening in the 
first place!


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:22.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/22.0 SeaMonkey/2.19 Build identifier: 20130625002157

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Re: multiple launch

2013-07-13 Thread Ed Mullen

Daniel wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/12/2013 6:08 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:

Sometimes I double click when I should not; consequently
multiple copies of browser and email/newsgroups are launched.

Is there any reason that SeaMonkey allows multiple launches?



My preferences are set to open a new tab when a Web link requests a new
window.  However, my preferences are also set to open a new window if a
non-browser application requests to display a Web page.  Thus, multiple
windows are not bad.


The way I read Rick's post is that he starts SM (browser and/or Mail as
appropriate), and then, because he's double-double clicked on the
desk-top icon, he gets a totally seperate second copy of SM (browser
and/or Mail as appropriate).


You don't have to do it that way. Double-click on a Mail/News folder or
account name and a second Mail/News window will open. And of course
there are lots of ways of opening a new browser window. Neither of these
means that more than one instance of SeaMonkey is running.

If I double-click on the SM desktop icon, or if I type the keyboard
shortcut I use to launch SM, or if I navigate through the Start menu to
the SeaMonkey program, any of these while SM is running, all I get is a
transfer of focus to the running instance of SM. A second one does not
launch as for example with MS Word. If I click a link more than once, I
get multiple copies of that browser window, but still only one instance
of the SM program.

So I'd say it's perfectly safe to close the extra window if you don't
need it. Don't worry about competing instances of the program writing to
the same mail/news folders.


But I think Rick wants to stop the double starting from happening in the
first place!



He ought to adjust his mouse settings to prevent accidental double-clicks.


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multiple launch

2013-07-12 Thread Rick Merrill

Sometimes I double click when I should not; consequently
multiple copies of browser and email/newsgroups are launched.

Is there any reason that SeaMonkey allows multiple launches?

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Re: multiple launch

2013-07-12 Thread BIll Spikowski
Rick Merrill wrote:
 Sometimes I double click when I should not; consequently
 multiple copies of browser and email/newsgroups are launched.
 
 Is there any reason that SeaMonkey allows multiple launches?


Tabs are nice, but I often open multiple SeaMonkey browser windows so
I can easily compare information in two separate windows.

There might be similar reasons that some users would want to have
multiple email windows open at the same time.


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Re: multiple launch

2013-07-12 Thread David E. Ross
On 7/12/2013 6:08 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:
 Sometimes I double click when I should not; consequently
 multiple copies of browser and email/newsgroups are launched.
 
 Is there any reason that SeaMonkey allows multiple launches?
 

My preferences are set to open a new tab when a Web link requests a new
window.  However, my preferences are also set to open a new window if a
non-browser application requests to display a Web page.  Thus, multiple
windows are not bad.

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