where is the ignore thread data list stored

2013-07-10 Thread Geoff Welsh
presumably, the Ignore Thread option under the Message dropdown (Mac 
main menu) will keep SM from downloading any more posts with the same 
subject.  At least that's how I think it works...seems to work like 
that.  (nothing in Help on ignore)


This is quite useful when a crossposted spam/flame war starts in a 
newsgroup you like to read.


But, if the subject title itself was rather mild, from a wording 
standpoint, then a legit (new) thread with the same subject title may 
/someday/ start and you would never see it.


so where is the kill-file/ignore-thread list stored?, and can you edit 
it? or just delete it?


GW

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Re: where is the ignore thread data list stored

2013-07-10 Thread Geoff Welsh

»Q« wrote:

On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 17:57:11 -1000,
innews:-tydnf2korizxlpmnz2dnuvz_qmdn...@mozilla.org,
Geoff Welshg...@some.rr.com  wrote:


Ignore Thread option under the Message dropdown (Mac main menu)
will keep SM from downloading any more posts with the same subject.


No, not ones with the same Subject.  Just ones in the same *thread*.
I'm not sure what to add to what Paul just posted about threading.


Where is the list of ignored threads?


Dunno.


How do I get the ignored thread back?


View » Threads » Ignored Threads



oh jeeez, no duh, hello brain!.

Figures it would be in a different drop-down...lol

sorry
GW
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Re: where is the ignore thread data list stored

2013-07-10 Thread Chris Ilias

On 2013-06-28 4:20 PM, Geoff Welsh wrote:

presumably, the Ignore Thread option under the Message dropdown (Mac
main menu) will keep SM from downloading any more posts with the same
subject.  At least that's how I think it works...seems to work like
that.  (nothing in Help on ignore)

This is quite useful when a crossposted spam/flame war starts in a
newsgroup you like to read.

But, if the subject title itself was rather mild, from a wording
standpoint, then a legit (new) thread with the same subject title may
/someday/ start and you would never see it.

so where is the kill-file/ignore-thread list stored?, and can you edit
it? or just delete it?


There are a couple of things you can do:

* Set SeaMonkey not to group together threads of the same subject. For 
instructions, visit 
http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/mailnewsfaq/noThreadWithoutRE.


* There's a setting in the View menu to display ignored threads. You can 
use that the check if there are any threads you want to un-ignore. For 
instructions, visit http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/mailnewsfaq/UnKillThread.


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where is the ignore thread data list stored

2013-07-10 Thread Geoff Welsh
Ignore Thread option under the Message dropdown (Mac main menu) will 
keep SM from downloading any more posts with the same subject.


And all traces of that thread have disappeared the next time you load 
the same newsgroup


This is quite useful when a crossposted spam/flame war starts in a 
newsgroup you like to read.


But what if I ignore a thread accidentally...and don't realize it 
until days later, when using a different machine.  (hey, this thread is 
missing on my other machine!)


Where is the list of ignored threads?  How do I get the ignored thread 
back?


GW

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Re: where is the ignore thread data list stored

2013-07-10 Thread Ralph Fox

On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 17:57:11 -1000, Geoff Welsh wrote:


Ignore Thread option under the Message dropdown (Mac main menu) will
keep SM from downloading any more posts with the same subject.

And all traces of that thread have disappeared the next time you load
the same newsgroup

This is quite useful when a crossposted spam/flame war starts in a
newsgroup you like to read.

But what if I ignore a thread accidentally...and don't realize it
until days later, when using a different machine.  (hey, this thread is
missing on my other machine!)

Where is the list of ignored threads?  How do I get the ignored thread
back?


It is stored in a hidden area of the message list itself.

In Thunderbird (I assume Seamonkey is similar) if you go to
View  Threads  ... and turn on Ignored Threads,
you can see the ignored threads and undo the ignores.
To undo the ignore, select the message and use Ignore Thread
again.


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Re: where is the ignore thread data list stored

2013-07-10 Thread »Q«
On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 17:57:11 -1000,
in news:-tydnf2korizxlpmnz2dnuvz_qmdn...@mozilla.org,
Geoff Welsh g...@some.rr.com wrote:

 Ignore Thread option under the Message dropdown (Mac main menu)
 will keep SM from downloading any more posts with the same subject.

No, not ones with the same Subject.  Just ones in the same *thread*.
I'm not sure what to add to what Paul just posted about threading.

 Where is the list of ignored threads?  

Dunno.

 How do I get the ignored thread back?

View » Threads » Ignored Threads


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Re: where is the ignore thread data list stored

2013-07-10 Thread Geoff Welsh

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:


presumably, the Ignore Thread option under the Message dropdown (Mac
main menu) will keep SM from downloading any more posts with the same
subject. At least that's how I think it works...seems to work like
that. (nothing in Help on ignore)

This is quite useful when a crossposted spam/flame war starts in a
newsgroup you like to read.

But, if the subject title itself was rather mild, from a wording
standpoint, then a legit (new) thread with the same subject title may
/someday/ start and you would never see it.

so where is the kill-file/ignore-thread list stored?, and can you edit
it? or just delete it?


You're assuming that a thread is defined by the subject line. But that's
not how SeaMonkey (and other good programs) thread messages.

 ...(explanation on threading)...


Oh, so there's no chance of killing something from the future, because 
it cannot possibly be the same thread even though the name is the 
same.  OK.  I had an invalid concern.  Thanks!


GW
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Re: where is the ignore thread data list stored

2013-07-10 Thread Geoff Welsh

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2013-06-28 4:20 PM, Geoff Welsh wrote:

presumably, the Ignore Thread option under the Message dropdown (Mac
main menu) will keep SM from downloading any more posts with the same
subject. At least that's how I think it works...seems to work like
that. (nothing in Help on ignore)

This is quite useful when a crossposted spam/flame war starts in a
newsgroup you like to read.

But, if the subject title itself was rather mild, from a wording
standpoint, then a legit (new) thread with the same subject title may
/someday/ start and you would never see it.

so where is the kill-file/ignore-thread list stored?, and can you edit
it? or just delete it?


There are a couple of things you can do:

* Set SeaMonkey not to group together threads of the same subject. For
instructions, visit
http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/mailnewsfaq/noThreadWithoutRE.

* There's a setting in the View menu to display ignored threads. You can
use that the check if there are any threads you want to un-ignore. For
instructions, visit http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/mailnewsfaq/UnKillThread.



Thanks Chris, and everyone.  I was easily lost by the fact that UN-doing 
what was done was found in a different spot.  (under View, as opposed to 
under Message)


GW. on Mac
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Re: where is the ignore thread data list stored

2013-07-10 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Geoff Welsh wrote:


presumably, the Ignore Thread option under the Message dropdown (Mac
main menu) will keep SM from downloading any more posts with the same
subject.  At least that's how I think it works...seems to work like
that.  (nothing in Help on ignore)

This is quite useful when a crossposted spam/flame war starts in a
newsgroup you like to read.

But, if the subject title itself was rather mild, from a wording
standpoint, then a legit (new) thread with the same subject title may
/someday/ start and you would never see it.

so where is the kill-file/ignore-thread list stored?, and can you edit
it? or just delete it?


You're assuming that a thread is defined by the subject line. But that's 
not how SeaMonkey (and other good programs) thread messages. See RFC822:


http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2822

The In-Reply-To: and References: fields are used when creating a 
reply to a message.  They hold the message identifier of the original 
message and the message identifiers of other messages (for example, in 
the case of a reply to a message which was itself a reply).  The 
In-Reply-To: field may be used to identify the message (or messages) 
to which the new message is a reply, while the References: field may 
be used to identify a thread of conversation.


When creating a reply to a message, the In-Reply-To: and References: 
fields of the resultant message are constructed as follows:


The In-Reply-To: field will contain the contents of the Message-ID: 
field of the message to which this one is a reply (the parent 
message).  If there is more than one parent message, then the 
In-Reply-To: field will contain the contents of all of the parents' 
Message-ID: fields.  If there is no Message-ID: field in any of the 
parent messages, then the new message will have no In-Reply-To: field.


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For more, follow the link; the explanation doesn't end there.

For a more user-friendly explanation, go here:
http://people.dsv.su.se/~jpalme/ietf/message-threading.html

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