Re: [Sursound] BBC Proms in 4.0
Am 18.07.14 15:21, schrieb Rupert Brun: The BBC will make the BBC Proms Concerts available in 4.0 using MPEG-DASH. The stream will be available internationally. Does anyone have the first idea how to record this stuff on a Mac? Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] BBC Proms in 4.0
Well, it depends on how you're listening: because I'm using a Metric Halo ULN-8, I just route the decoded signal through their console application which lets me record all four channels. I would imagine that most sound cards will let you do the same thing, if that's how you're getting the signal to your sound system. Regards, John On 19 Jul 2014, at 10:13, Ralf R Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de wrote: Does anyone have the first idea how to record this stuff on a Mac? ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] BBC Proms in 4.0
On 19 Jul 2014, at 10:13, Ralf R Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de wrote: Does anyone have the first idea how to record this stuff on a Mac? At 12:35 19-07-14, John Leonard wrote: Well, it depends on how you're listening: because I'm using a Metric Halo ULN-8, I just route the decoded signal through their console application which lets me record all four channels. I would imagine that most sound cards will let you do the same thing, if that's how you're getting the signal to your sound system. It has to be do-able, but how you actually manage it depends on your A/D/A converter, which must obviously be at least 4-track. My PC motherboard has a Realtek chip, which allows 7.1 playback, but not record. I use an RME UFX firewire connection, which is able to record multichannels of whatever you can playback and has the advantage of Totalmix to do this, plus an excellent metering system called Digicheck. This also works on OS X. David ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] BBC Proms in 4.0
Am 19.07.14 14:53, schrieb David Pickett: It has to be do-able, but how you actually manage it depends on your A/D/A converter, which must obviously be at least 4-track. I'm aware of the various possibilities to do this via an audio interface. I'd rather capture the signal in the digital domain. Unfortunately, the usual utilities to grab and save system audio (Audio Hijack Pro etc.) only work for two-channel signals. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] BBC Proms in 4.0
--On 19 July 2014 14:59 +0200 Ralf R Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de wrote: I'm aware of the various possibilities to do this via an audio interface. I'd rather capture the signal in the digital domain. Many of these interfaces can, through their control programs, do exactly that. Paul -- Paul Hodges ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] BBC Proms in 4.0
Sat, 19 Jul 2014 11:13:11 +0200, Ralf R Radermacher wrote : Am 18.07.14 15:21, schrieb Rupert Brun: The BBC will make the BBC Proms Concerts available in 4.0 using MPEG-DASH. The stream will be available internationally. Does anyone have the first idea how to record this stuff on a Mac? Ralf Here's how to do it on Linux. To get the sound of web browsers (including Chrome/Chromium), I use the Pulseaudio sound server, installed by default. I also use the jackd sound server with the pulseaudio module for jackd. There's a few ways to record the output of a jackd application; I prefer qarecord because of its user interface. Jackd is available for Mac OSX, so maybe there's a way to route the sound output of Chrome to jackd in order to record it. -- Marc ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] BBC Proms in 4.0
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 10:00:20AM -0400, Marc Lavallée wrote: Here's how to do it on Linux. To get the sound of web browsers (including Chrome/Chromium), I use the Pulseaudio sound server, installed by default. I also use the jackd sound server with the pulseaudio module for jackd. There's a few ways to record the output of a jackd application; I prefer qarecord because of its user interface. Any way to make this work without PA (which I don't have and will not install) ? I tried * using an 8-channel card configured as the default ALSA device, * using the alsa-jack plugin configured for 5,6,7,8 channels. In both cases the surround channels are mapped to the front ones. Chromium 34. Ciao, -- FA A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia. It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow) ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] BBC Proms in 4.0
Easy to record stream on a Mac Install Cycling74's Soundflower its free and doesnt interfere with anything Install Audacity its a free recorder Set your Macs Sound Output to Soundflower16 - at this point you wont hear anything from chrome at this point launch soundflowerbed and allocate tracks to play out of your outputs - you'll hear again Set Audacity to record a 5/6 channel input from soundflower16 Now audacity will record your stream - save at end to a multichanel wav or whatever mick On 19 Jul 2014, at 10:13, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: Am 18.07.14 15:21, schrieb Rupert Brun: The BBC will make the BBC Proms Concerts available in 4.0 using MPEG-DASH. The stream will be available internationally. Does anyone have the first idea how to record this stuff on a Mac? Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on. ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] BBC Proms in 4.0
Hi Fons. I disabled PA and Jackd, enabled all output channels in alsamixer, and opened Chromium 34 on the test page: http://rdmedia.bbc.co.uk/proms/test.html Chromium can use Alsa, but I also have a mapping problem. Here's what's coming out of my 7.1 sound card (per jack): Lime green (front): left: this is the left front channel right: this is the right front channel Black (rear): left: this is the centre front channel right: this is the left surround channel Orange (center/sub): left: this is the right surround channel right: silence... Grey (side): left: this is the left front channel right: this is the right front channel Then I reactivated PulseAudio and its jackd module, and now all channels are correctly assigned, except for the same copy of front to side. Maybe you can try remapping Alsa channels in a custom Alsa config file, setting the ALSA_CONFIG_PATH environment variable to this file before starting Chromium: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/LibEnvVars -- Marc Sat, 19 Jul 2014 14:39:45 +, wrote: On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 10:00:20AM -0400, Marc Lavallée wrote: Here's how to do it on Linux. To get the sound of web browsers (including Chrome/Chromium), I use the Pulseaudio sound server, installed by default. I also use the jackd sound server with the pulseaudio module for jackd. There's a few ways to record the output of a jackd application; I prefer qarecord because of its user interface. Any way to make this work without PA (which I don't have and will not install) ? I tried * using an 8-channel card configured as the default ALSA device, * using the alsa-jack plugin configured for 5,6,7,8 channels. In both cases the surround channels are mapped to the front ones. Chromium 34. Ciao, ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] BBC Proms in 4.0
Am 19.07.14 18:47, schrieb m...@superorg.com: Set your Macs Sound Output to Soundflower16 - at this point you wont hear anything from chrome This is as far as I get. Soundflower64, actually (only 2 or 64 channels here). at this point launch soundflowerbed and allocate tracks to play out of your outputs - That would be my Headzone Pro. you'll hear again That would be nice. Alas, I dont. No input signal in Audacity (or TwistedWave) either. Pity, really. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] BBC Proms in 4.0
I AM capturing it in the digital domain. It's 48kHz. David At 14:59 19-07-14, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: Am 19.07.14 14:53, schrieb David Pickett: It has to be do-able, but how you actually manage it depends on your A/D/A converter, which must obviously be at least 4-track. I'm aware of the various possibilities to do this via an audio interface. I'd rather capture the signal in the digital domain. Unfortunately, the usual utilities to grab and save system audio (Audio Hijack Pro etc.) only work for two-channel signals. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on. ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic workflow MuLab
Hi everyone I wonder if anyone has looked at using MuLab for Ambisonics - in their patcher environment they have several sends for each audio channels and so it would seem it might be possible to patch together a template that did ambisonics quite easily - however the demo only allows 2 channels per track http://www.mutools.com/mulab-product.html Cheers, Garth Paine ga...@activatedspace.com ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] BBC Proms in 4.0
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 9:47 AM, m...@superorg.com wrote: On 19 Jul 2014, at 10:13, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: Am 18.07.14 15:21, schrieb Rupert Brun: The BBC will make the BBC Proms Concerts available in 4.0 using MPEG-DASH. The stream will be available internationally. Does anyone have the first idea how to record this stuff on a Mac? Easy to record stream on a Mac Install Cycling74's Soundflower its free and doesnt interfere with anything Install Audacity its a free recorder Set your Macs Sound Output to Soundflower16 - at this point you wont hear anything from chrome at this point launch soundflowerbed and allocate tracks to play out of your outputs - you'll hear again Set Audacity to record a 5/6 channel input from soundflower16 I can't get Soundflowerbed to work on Mavericks -- it appears in the menu bar, but crashes as soon as I select an input channel. Instead, I created an aggregate device (using Audio MIDI Setup) with the Soundflower 16ch device as channels 1-16 and Built-in Output as 17 and 18. You then select Aggregate Device as the MacOS Output Device. I record to a 4-channel FLAC file using Plogue Bidule, routing channels 1,2,4,5 from Soundflower to a recorder and 1 and 2 to 17 18, to play over the builtin speakers to monitor. Unfortunately the volume control in the Menu Bar also controls the level of the signal that appears in Soundflower, so I turn that all the way up (to 11) and put a gain block in the path to Built-in Output to control the levels to the speakers. I put the Bidule setup, a screen grab of the Aggregate Device setup, and the 4-channel FLAC and Ogg Vorbis (q=6) files of the the Channel ID announcements and the last 20 minutes of Saturday's broadcast here: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B1DUyjAHI9QkajFqNi1PcVlYbmcusp=sharing Aaron (hel...@ai.sri.com) Menlo Park, CA, US -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20140719/66a51b94/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] BBC Proms in 4.0
David Pickett wrote: ... Regarding the lack of browser choice, I agree that it would be nice if all adhered to the HTML5 standard; but they dont. (What's the point of useful standards -- i.e. the HTML5 media tag -- if not everbody uses them?) I am sure it doesn't help that there is no actual HTML5 standard, as yet. That is to say, there is no *ratified* standard. The last time I looked, a ratified standard was scheduled for late 2014. Hopefully, when this happens, browsers will make an extra effort to adhere to it. Regards, Martin -- Martin J Leese E-mail: martin.leese stanfordalumni.org Web: http://members.tripod.com/martin_leese/ ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
