Re: [Sursound] Acoustic properties of round rooms ?

2016-03-07 Thread David Pickett

At 00:26 08-03-16, Sampo Syreeni wrote:

On 2016-03-07, David Pickett wrote:


Sorry, I should shave before writing.  I meant magnetron, not klystron...


Magnetrons are self-oscillating sources of microwave radiation. Of 
the fringed, multiplied, physical, secondary oscillator kind. 
Klystrons on the other hand are linear electron beam devices which 
are used as high gain, high power amplifiers.


I don't mean to be rude, but how on earth do you mix those tubes 
togerher? To me they seem totally different, both in construction, 
and in their actual use.


Simply because I havent used or seen one since 1966, when I was 
building solid state oscillators to replace them.


David

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Re: [Sursound] Acoustic properties of round rooms ?

2016-03-07 Thread Sampo Syreeni

On 2016-03-07, David Pickett wrote:

Sorry, I should shave before writing.  I meant magnetron, not 
klystron...


Magnetrons are self-oscillating sources of microwave radiation. Of the 
fringed, multiplied, physical, secondary oscillator kind. Klystrons on 
the other hand are linear electron beam devices which are used as 
high gain, high power amplifiers.


I don't mean to be rude, but how on earth do you mix those tubes 
togerher? To me they seem totally different, both in construction, and 
in their actual use.


I havent looked in detail, but they are, as I expected, high Q 
devices, which is a much better way of putting what I was trying to 
say earlier in a rather fumbly way.


The Magnetron is a very high Q device, by design. It's engineered to be 
a primary oscillator in the microwave range. At the same time, the 
Klystron cannot be analyzed via LTI-minded Q math. It does have its 
resonances, and its intrinsic bandwidth, but the reason it's used in 
e.g. radar systems is precisely it's capability of amplifying, via 
somewhat nonlinear processes within the electron beam, a broader 
frequency range than any tube thingy which came before it.

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