Re: [Sursound] Surround & Binaural Mic Shoot-out thing

[Rev Tony Newnham]

Hi

Maybe the designer is ex-BBC.  Many older BBC broadcast mixer had 
reversed faders, on the principle that if you accidentally nudged a 
fader it was better to reduce level slightly rather than put an unwanted 
signal on air.  It was rather confusing once when I had an OB unit/mixer 
plus a conventional mixer for a live broadcast! First time I'd had to 
use a reverse fader desk.


Every Blessing

Tony


On 06/06/2017 15:38, John Leonard wrote:

1) I get the level setting on the app, although some people I’ve spoken to find 
it counter-intuitive as they’re used to pushing faders up for to make things 
louder and down to make things quieter. Also I found it quite tricky to make 
smooth level changes, although I guess that’s not something you might expect 
the average user to want to do.




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Re: [Sursound] External phantom battery source for TetraMic PPAc

[Rev Tony Newnham]

and for anything really impportgant, have a backup recording system (or 
2) running in parallel!


It's the "belt, braces and piece of string" scenario.

Every Blessing

Tony


On 23/07/2016 21:58, David Pickett wrote:

At 07:31 24-07-16, Richard Lee wrote:
>
>For an important recording, use a new ALKALINE PP3.  Probably 10 hrs 
life

>
>http://data.energizer.com/PDFs/522.pdf

Most days I would agree with you: but there is always Murphy's Law to 
contend with, and the specific case of this states that a PP3-powered 
recording device will fail only when a unique event is to be recorded 
(c.f. the one that got away)!




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Re: [Sursound] [OT] Recording uni lectures ...

[Rev Tony Newnham]

Hi

A deaf friend of mine had a device consiting of a microphone/transmitter 
that could be placed on or near the lecturn etc.  The receiver end fed a 
neck loop that was then picked up by his hearing aids in the T position 
(as for using an induction loop).  He said it worked fine - and he also 
used it for small meetings.  I think it came from the RNIB.  Doesn't 
solve the recording issue, but it might mean that the person concerned 
could actually hear the lecture live.


Every Blessing

Tony

On 21/09/2015 16:51, Jon Honeyball wrote:

smartphone with an appropriate Rode mic?




On 21/09/2015, 16:18, "Sursound on behalf of Michael Chapman" 
 wrote:


Sorry 'off topic' but as we have so many academic list members ...

A hearing-impaired student (not profoundly deaf) is having difficulty with
lectures and wants (with the faculty's knowledge) to record them for later
listening.

I was asked for suggestions.
(Why the lecture theatre does not, in 2015) have a 'loop' I know not ...



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[Sursound] BBC Proms in 4.0

[Rev Tony Newnham]

Hi

It looks interesting - but access via the digital networks would be 
easier.  At least it should be simpler than the BBC's Quadraphonic 
trials back in the 1970's - that required to 2 FM receivers!  Not sure 
that my internet is currently reliable enough - especially in the 
evenings, but I might give it a try.


Every Blessing

Tony

On 18/07/2014 14:34, Richard wrote:
Firstly, i must say a thank you for letting us know. But, after the last 
test it is obvious that a large majority of us were unable to enjoy 
these broadcasts due to the limited requirements.


May i ask a question as a BBC licence payer. Why is this not available 
via the standard broadcast methods, Freeview  Freesat?

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Re: [Sursound] BBC Streaming trial

[Rev Tony Newnham]

Hi

I use Chrome mainly.  I gave up with Firefox - it would delay starting 
while it updated far too often - and usually when I neededt look 
something up quickly!  That aside, it worked OK.


Chrome - if you have a Google account has one advantage - your bookmarks 
 start page are there on all your computers.   It also has a 
disadvantage - your bookmarks  start page are there on all your 
computers!  Id rather be able to choose what I want on start-up 
depending on what the computer is used for.  I don't need my normal 
office start pages when I'm using the computer I use for putting 
presentations together for use on church, for example.


I'd have a look at this, except I currently have no way of listening to 
surround other than a 5.1 system in the lounge.  I remember the trials 
of quad back in the 11970's, using 2 FM stereo carriers late at night 
after normal programmes had shut down. That was interesting.


Every Blessing

Tony

On 16/03/2014 17:55, Augustine Leudar wrote:

Good find ! Chrome isn't so bad actually


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Re: [Sursound] Adding stereo to monophonic audio

[Rev Tony Newnham]

Hi

I seem to remember reading a review of kit that could do this - and/or
construct 5.1 from stereo - aimed at TV broadcasters.  That was just a
couple of years ago - not the inverse comb filter system that was sometimes
(mis)used to convert mono to stereo in the early days of stereo records.

Every Blessing

Tony

 -Original Message-
 From: sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu]
On
 Behalf Of Andrew Castiglione
 Sent: 22 May 2013 17:49
 To: Surround Sound discussion group
 Subject: [Sursound] Adding stereo to monophonic audio
 
 Interesting
http://hackaday.com/2013/05/22/adding-stereo-to-monophonic-
 audio/

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Re: [Sursound] [allowed] Re: Recreating a 3d soundfield with lots of mics.....

[Rev Tony Newnham]

Hi

That's not the RFH - nor RAH!  The stage  organ are wrong for both.

Every Blessing

Tony

 -Original Message-
 From: sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu]
On
 Behalf Of Aaron Heller
 Sent: 19 May 2013 20:18
 To: Surround Sound discussion group
 Subject: Re: [Sursound] [allowed] Re: Recreating a 3d soundfield with lots
of
 mics.
 
 
 There's a photo of the set up at Royal Festival Hall, about 1/3 down on
this
 page
 
 http://www.gearplus.com.au/products/wharfedale/history/0-history-
 wharfedale.htm

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Re: [Sursound] [allowed] Re: Recreating a 3d soundfield with lots of mics.....

[Rev Tony Newnham]

Hi

Indeed - there's a picture or two in one of his books, which I have here
somewhere.  I don't think he tried to mimic the piositions of instruments
within an ensemble though - except maybe the piano.  No time to look it up
at present 

Every Blessing

Tony

 -Original Message-
 From: sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu]
On
 Behalf Of Gerard Lardner
 Sent: 18 May 2013 01:23
 To: sursound@music.vt.edu
 Subject: Re: [Sursound] [allowed] Re: Recreating a 3d soundfield with lots
of
 mics.
 
 I believe Gilbert Briggs of Wharfedale did something like this in the
1950s.
 He hired major concert halls and other public venues in the UK and USA to
give
 concerts comparing live with recorded sound. 

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Re: [Sursound] Looking for a very, very old thread - mics pointing inwards?

[Rev Tony Newnham]

Hi

Are you thinking of the arrangement that one of the audiophile record
companies use? Near coincident fig 8's plus an omni pointing in.

Every Blessing

Tony

 -Original Message-
 From: sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu]
On
 Behalf Of Eero Aro
 Sent: 02 March 2013 11:06
 To: sursound@music.vt.edu
 Subject: Re: [Sursound] Looking for a very, very old thread - mics
pointing
 inwards?
 
 Michael Chapman wrote:
1) Don't think this is it, but better to forward than delete ?
 
 Yes, I also found that post, but it isn't quite what I was looking for.
Maybe
 my imagination is just making up things.
 

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Re: [Sursound] Looking for a very, very old thread - mics pointing inwards?

[Rev Tony Newnham]

Hi

Not come across that one!  I often use ORTF stereo set-ups, especially if I
don't want the pin point accuracy of Blumhein.  I'd be interested if you do
turn up a reference.  I've used the Faulkner array of spaced figure of
eights with some success.  I did read that he'd more recently added further
mics - I can't remember/find the ref. now - maybe it was in Resolution
magazine.  I thought I'd kept the article, but I can/t find it in my file,
and there doesn't seem to be anything on the web.  Maybe that's what you're
thinking of?

Every Blessing

Tony

 -Original Message-
 From: sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu]
On
 Behalf Of Eero Aro
 Sent: 02 March 2013 17:17
 To: sursound@music.vt.edu
 Subject: Re: [Sursound] Looking for a very, very old thread - mics
pointing
 inwards?
 
 Tony wrote:
  Are you thinking of the arrangement that one of the audiophile record
  companies use? Near coincident fig 8's plus an omni pointing in.
 
 No. I am writing an article about an un-orthodox stereo recording setup,
 common acoustical point. Two cardioids with a reasonably long spacing,
 pointing towards a single source, so that the on axis directions cross.

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Re: [Sursound] OT: Spatial music

[Rev Tony Newnham]

Hi

What about Apple lossless compression, Quicktime - and so on?

Tony

 -Original Message-
 From: sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu]
On
 Behalf Of Ronald C.F. Antony
 Sent: 03 April 2012 20:06
 To: Surround Sound discussion group
 Subject: Re: [Sursound] OT: Spatial music
 
 
 Apple has no history of pushing proprietary file formats, except for DRM.


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Re: [Sursound] Immsound

[Rev Tony Newnham]

Thanks Dave - like I said, I've not had time to read it properly yet.

Every Blessing

Tony

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On
 Behalf Of Dave Malham
 Sent: 02 April 2012 11:53
 To: Surround Sound discussion group
 Subject: Re: [Sursound] Immsound
 
 Umm - page 3 in the white paper;
 
  Algorithms include not only object-based audio processing but also
  higher-order Ambisonics and perceptual-based spatial sound processing.
 
 so it's both mpeg4 and HOA
 
 Dave
 
 On 02/04/2012 11:13, Rev Tony Newnham wrote:
  Hi
 
  Came across this in the current edition of Resolution magazine -
  although the technology article seems extremely light as to how the
  system works psycoacoustically  -as does their web-site
  http://immsound.com/home , although I've yet to read the white paper
  fully, it also seems rather light
  - but then I suppose they want to see their gear!
 
  Has anyone come across it?  heard it in action?  My first thoughts are
  that it's using ambisonic principles - but I notice that Gerzon et al
  get no mention in the list of references, so maybe not?
 
  Just interested - I'm not involved in cinema sound (but am interested
  in the various surround sound systems).
 
  Every Blessing
 
  Tony
 
 
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Re: [Sursound] Can anyone help with my dissertation please?

[Rev Tony Newnham]

Hi

My now rather old and basic Surround Sound RX actually does have a setting
called 3-stereo, which presumably synthesises a centre channel from the
stereo feed.  I've never tried it - but I might give it a go next time I'm
listening to music in the lounge.  I normally either use Pro-Logic (for
general listening) or switch to Stereo if I'm listening to stereo music
only.

Every Blessing

Tony

 -Original Message-
 From: sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu]
On
 Behalf Of Robert Greene
 Sent: 02 April 2012 17:58
 To: richarddob...@blueyonder.co.uk; Surround Sound discussion group
 Subject: Re: [Sursound] Can anyone help with my dissertation please?
 
 
 But lots of people already have five channel systems.
 What they do not have is a Trifield processor built in to their
receivers to
 make stereo into three channel.
 They have other schemes to do this, but not Trifield.
 This seems to be an oversight--unless people do not feel that Trifield is
 really better?
 Robert
 
 On Mon, 2 Apr 2012, Richard Dobson wrote:
 
  On 02/04/2012 17:21, Robert Greene wrote:
  ..
 
  It is really not too late at least for Trifield. If it is really
  better
 
  how will people know? It is only a minority who bother to go to demos
  and shows.
 
  , people would respond. (Actually at a Meridian demo I heard,
  I thought it sounded worse than stereo. For one thing, the speakers
  were not far enough apart so that it sounded too mono--this sort of
  thing does not help the cause).
 
 
 
  Well, hmm, three speakers cost approximately 50% more than the price of
two.
  Plus whatever extra special kit is needed. You ~might~ manage to sell
  the idea if you can establish beyond doubt that the improvement is at
  least that much.  It is very easy to persuade people that two speakers
  really are more than 100% better than one. Unless the added speaker
  produces a commensurate hike in quality over the two (and domestic
  hifi dealers are happy to stock and sell 3.0 speaker sets), I suspect
the
 take-up will (continue to be) low.
  This is a niche market inside a niche market.
 
  Richard Dobson
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Re: [Sursound] Me again - on the H/HJ hunt

[Rev Tony Newnham]

Hi

Sorry - can't help with that, but I do remember listening to a couple of the
earlier experimental surround broadcasts using 2 discrete frequencies for
front and rear - that would have been 1974 or 5 IIRC.

Every Blessing

Tony

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On
 Behalf Of Richard
 Sent: 25 January 2012 14:32
 To: Surround Sound discussion group
 Subject: [Sursound] Me again - on the H/HJ hunt
 
 Hi again guys
 
 I'm really sorry for the continued questions regarding thwe same subject,
but
 i'm having problems in finding where else where people know anything
factual
 about the BBC's matrix H  HJ Quad experiments form 1977  1978
 
 So, here's the issue i now have. I've been sent 4 tapes of BBC quad
 broadcasts, and the person who sent them says they are in HJ. Does anyone
know
 when the BBC switched from H to HJ?
 
 
 Since successfully finished the SQ  QS project, it's time i dealt with
H/HJ
 once and for all.
 
 Anyone here remeber anything?
 
 Richard
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[Sursound] BBC Binaural experiment

[Rev Tony Newnham]

Hi

According to a news snippet on a UK radio web site, the BBC is offering a
Binaural stream of the Kings college Carol service (from 2007) - go to
http://radiotoday.co.uk/2011/12/bbc-radio-experiments-in-surround-sound/?utm
_source=feedutm_campaign=rss-mo-moreutm_medium=rssutm_source=MadMimiutm_
medium=emailutm_content=Seven+days+in+radio__utm_campaign=Seven+days+in+ra
dio__utm_term=BBC+Radio+experiments+in+surround+sound
For the article.

Every Blessing

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Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic UHJ Discography Web Site is Down

[Rev Tony Newnham]

Hi

I use tripod for our church web site - no real problems, except when I
upload the pdf of the church magazine, I have to hunt to find where they've
put it to set up the link!  (maybe that's changed with the latest re-vamp -
the magazine is only bi-monthly).  http:/heatonbradfordbaptist.tripod.com

Every Blessing

Tony

 -Original Message-
 From: sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu]
On
 Behalf Of Martin Leese
 Sent: 07 December 2011 18:40
 To: sursound@music.vt.edu
 Subject: Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic UHJ Discography Web Site is Down
 
 
 Hi Mark,
 
 I have used for many years the free Web
 hosting company Tripod.com.  Unlike other
 such companies, Tripod seems to stick around.

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Re: [Sursound] SoundField: from Calrec to MBHO, what year?

[Rev Tony Newnham]

Hi

The web site of the current mic manufacturers (SoundFieldLtd) say on their
web site:-
 Early SoundField prototype models were developed using Gerzon's theory in
conjunction with the National Research Development Corporation of Great
Britain and Calrec Audio. Chief Designer at Calrec, Ken Farrar, and
colleagues played a leading role in turning Gerzon's theory into a real
product and Ken Farrar's contribution was later recognised by his
appointment as a Fellow of the Institution of Electrical Engineers
(F.I.E.E.). In 1993, the company SoundField Ltd. was formed specifically to
manufacture and further develop the range of products and their application
in both stereo and multi-channel audio environments. SoundField Ltd. is the
owner of all patent and intellectual property rights relating to SoundField
Technology.

http://www.soundfield.com/company/company.php

Every Blessing

Tony

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On
 Behalf Of Daniel Courville
 Sent: 24 September 2011 13:49
 To: Sursound
 Subject: [Sursound] SoundField: from Calrec to MBHO, what year?
 
 From the Calrec web site
 http://www.calrec.com/uk/support/pages/technicalassistance.aspx, we
 learn that they stopped mic production in 1989.
 
 Does somebody know in what year SoundField caps production started at
MBHO?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Daniel
 
 
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