Re: [Sursound] online multichannel release: HTML5 test

[mick ritchie]

Hi Etienne
O

This is similar problem Ive always had with SoundofSpace AAC files  
which

use the
CLRLsRsLFE order but again I can use the Quad playback to fix the  
order.

Id much
prefer the ITU spec of LRCLFELsRs as that seems to be a sort of  
common

standard



I understand that AC3 and AAC have different channel orders by  
definition.
I'm pretty sure soundOfSpace does it correctly (for both). Are you  
talking
about Firefox in OSX with a VLC plugin? ... or are you talking  
about Safari

playing AAC natively?


I hadnt spotted a firefox vlc plugin so am using browsers natively -  
and they seem to follow my general audio prefs - having said that and  
upgrading firefox to v8 now i cant play my own ref movies at all -  
eek but it acts the same as v3.5.  Chrome I did try and it  
continually asks for plugins and shows me to too many google links  
for my liking.


The first aac file order spec seems to be what soundofspace uses but I
found much discussion online of using the more standard layout. AC3 has
to be as is because external devices are all set the same


It is ... I think what is needed is a table that identifies which 5.1
format for which browser for which OS for which stereo decode is  
best. Then

I'll implement that (and others can implement that)  and so people
could say "works with Chrome 10.1 + on windows, or  " etc.

Etienne


I'll have another look at the browsers as I need to get Firefox  
working again

and try a windows machine as Ive got some tests to do for binaural

mick


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Re: [Sursound] online multichannel release: HTML5 test

[etienne deleflie]

Hi Mick,

Thanks for the feedback ... very helpful.


> This is similar problem Ive always had with SoundofSpace AAC files which
> use the
> CLRLsRsLFE order but again I can use the Quad playback to fix the order.
> Id much
> prefer the ITU spec of LRCLFELsRs as that seems to be a sort of common
> standard
>

I understand that AC3 and AAC have different channel orders by definition.
I'm pretty sure soundOfSpace does it correctly (for both). Are you talking
about Firefox in OSX with a VLC plugin? ... or are you talking about Safari
playing AAC natively?


> On the main site Ive never been able to get a player to load with the AC3
> play now option though I can download them and play  back dolby digital in
> VLC and quicktime through my Yamaha home decoder.


yes ... this is a bug with Apple. It was logged many years ago ...

Quicktime has the capacity to stream AC3 directly to the hardware decoder
*except* when it is embedded in the browser. Apple says this is not a bug.
Its possible to get it working through a plugin called Perian, but then the
entire file needs to be downloaded ... so it's not exactly streaming. The
Perian people have told me this just needs to be developed and said
open-source was all about people contributing their own code.

I've been meaning to remove that option for a while because it is mostly
useless. (which is why I thought I'd see what HTML5 can do first).


>  Using VLC is easily the best because it has its own encoded stereo option
> which saves changing
> overall options and  I can it triggers the yamaha recieving it. Quicktime
> does work though but only if you
> go into the terminal and set up ac3 passthrough??  hence I use VLC for AC3.
>
> AC3 in OSX appears to always download rather than just playthrough - it
> will open and play in VLC but
> only after downloading as well.  My use of AC3's has been mainly dvds for
> film or straight audio
> for multispeaker installs ignoring 5.1 - there is an answer to the
> download issue as you can
> save a vlc playlist and post as an m3u containing the urls to avoid ac3
> downloads though ive only just tried that out.
>
> So I dont see a particular browser problem though we are dealing with
> computer and receiver set ups -
> I originally wanted to be able to  stream 4 channel files into soundflower
> without any need - for people to reset or guess channel order and with Ogg
> files the computer tended to mess with the order but when I used a
> QTreference file as the link the channel order was not messed with anymore
> - this was only tested in OSX and XP at the time
>
>
> hope this is of help to someone -
>

It is ... I think what is needed is a table that identifies which 5.1
format for which browser for which OS for which stereo decode is best. Then
I'll implement that (and others can implement that)  and so people
could say "works with Chrome 10.1 + on windows, or  " etc.

Etienne
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Re: [Sursound] online multichannel release: HTML5 test

[etienne deleflie]

> But in a sense it's a valid question at another level. Does HTML5 (in its
> various forms, mostly H.264 i.e. AAC) reliably fall back to something
> usable when you broadcast multichannel material? If it does not, what's the
> use of it? If it does, does it always do so, reliably? If it does but not
> always, when precisely does it sound right even in mono, stereo, 5.1, in
> which setups?...
>

maybe it needs a table ... any volunteers?


>
> For me, none of Etienne's files produce any sound, even if they play just
> fine otherwise. My setup is a laptop with mere stereo, over the newest
> version of XP, utilizing both the newest versions of VLC and WinAmp for
> playback.


but what's your browser? That's kinda the point with HTML5  takes the
responsibility away from plugins. Its about how up-to-date your browser is
... not the plugins. I'd be very interested in what results you get with
IE9 ... which supports AAC but not sure about multi-channel ones.

Etienne


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Re: [Sursound] online multichannel release: HTML5 test

[mick ritchie]

Thanks for helps - I could see I was accessing the ogg version in my  
browsers and
when I set my speaker config correctly I can get multichanel audio  
from the html5 page no
problem.  Well there is a problem and that is the file order - with a  
5.1 config set in OSX
im seeing a LCRLsRsLFE playback but im not able to save this as a  
config and to add
to that Quicktime and VLC only play out tracks 12 and 5 - but I can  
change to

quad playback and then all 4  tracks are routed correctly.

This is similar problem Ive always had with SoundofSpace AAC files  
which use the
CLRLsRsLFE order but again I can use the Quad playback to fix the  
order. Id much
prefer the ITU spec of LRCLFELsRs as that seems to be a sort of  
common standard


On the main site Ive never been able to get a player to load with the  
AC3 play now option
though I can download them and play  back dolby digital in VLC and  
quicktime through my Yamaha
home decoder.  Using VLC is easily the best because it has its own  
encoded stereo option which saves changing
overall options and  I can it triggers the yamaha recieving it.  
Quicktime does work though but only if you
go into the terminal and set up ac3 passthrough??  hence I use VLC  
for AC3.


AC3 in OSX appears to always download rather than just playthrough -  
it will open and play in VLC but
only after downloading as well.  My use of AC3's has been mainly dvds  
for film or straight audio
for multispeaker installs ignoring 5.1 - there is an answer to the  
download issue as you can
save a vlc playlist and post as an m3u containing the urls to avoid  
ac3 downloads though ive only just tried that out.


So I dont see a particular browser problem though we are dealing with  
computer and receiver set ups -
I originally wanted to be able to  stream 4 channel files into  
soundflower without any need - for people to reset or guess channel  
order and with Ogg files the computer tended to mess with the order  
but when I used a QTreference file as the link the channel order was  
not messed with anymore - this was only tested in OSX and XP at the time



hope this is of help to someone -

mick





On 1 Dec 2011, at 22:40, etienne deleflie wrote:


Hi Mick,

If you are talking about this page:
http://soundofspace.com/static/test_html5.html

then all feeds are 5.1  if you are hearing stereo it is your  
browser
that has decided to interpret the 5.1 feed as stereo. Any settings  
for that

would be browser side.

But to find out which of the three files the browser has chosen to  
use is
difficult. On Firefox 8, I can right click on the player and do  
'copy audio
location'  (the file is the ogg one). This doesn't work on  
Safari...

not sure about Explorer

good question though  there must be a way.

Etienne


On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 9:14 PM, mick ritchie   
wrote:




Etienne -

I can play back stereo from your player in firefox3 and Safari but  
not 5.1

- my
5.1 box doesnt see dolby digital just stereo.  Is there any way of  
telling

which
feed my browser accesses?

mick


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Re: [Sursound] online multichannel release: HTML5 test

[Ian Tait]

There is a plugin for Firefox called firebug - it might show you the
file being requested by the browser.

Ian
 

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Subject: Re: [Sursound] online multichannel release: HTML5 test

Hi Mick,

If you are talking about this page:
http://soundofspace.com/static/test_html5.html

then all feeds are 5.1  if you are hearing stereo it is your browser
that has decided to interpret the 5.1 feed as stereo. Any settings for
that would be browser side.

But to find out which of the three files the browser has chosen to use
is difficult. On Firefox 8, I can right click on the player and do 'copy
audio location'  (the file is the ogg one). This doesn't work on
Safari...
not sure about Explorer

good question though  there must be a way.

Etienne


On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 9:14 PM, mick ritchie  wrote:

>
> Etienne -
>
> I can play back stereo from your player in firefox3 and Safari but not

> 5.1
> - my
> 5.1 box doesnt see dolby digital just stereo.  Is there any way of 
> telling which feed my browser accesses?
>
> mick
>
> On 29 Nov 2011, at 23:51, etienne deleflie wrote:
>
>  Hi Fabio,
>>
>> Worked fine with Safari and Mac OSX.
>>
>>> I tried using jack. It immediately showed the 6 channel web process 
>>> in the routing window!
>>> Also without jack it directly played back.
>>>
>>> Could you give some background on the HTML5 implementation or on how

>>> you realized this?
>>>
>>>
>> its simple. One of HTML5's advantages is that it is the browser that 
>> supplies the media players. This means less need for 3rd party media 
>> players like Flash / Quicktime / VLC etc. That means less barriers to

>> entry .. which means there is a growing chance that more people will 
>> 'just hear'
>> 5.1 coming out of their connected speakers (if they have them 
>> connected to a 5.1 card).
>>
>> Here is what the HTML5 code looks like ( is an HTML5 tag):
>>
>> 
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>
>> Looks like your browser does not support HTML 5.
>> Non HTML5 code would go here. Perhaps a quicktime plugin for the old 
>> browsers.
>>
>> 
>>
>> The browser chooses whichever one it can play, and supplies the media

>> player. And that seems to be:
>>
>> IE9 + : AAC
>> Safari: AAC
>> Chrome: AAC / Vorbis
>> Firefox 8+: none of them, but if you have VLC installed it will have 
>> a go at OGG and perhaps AC3 opened in VLC.
>>
>> It is Firefox that fails us here. Firefox can play Vorbis files, but 
>> not multichannel ones.
>>
>> Etienne
>>
>>
>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Fabio
>>>
>>> Am 27.11.2011 um 05:08 schrieb etienne deleflie:
>>>
>>>  I've been meaning to try out HTML5's capabilities for a while, now 
>>> seems
>>>>
>>> a
>>>
>>>> good time.
>>>>
>>>> http://soundofspace.com/**static/test_html5.html<http://soundofspac
>>>> e.com/static/test_html5.html>
>>>>
>>>> This page hosts an (ambisonicaly decoded) 5.1 file in AAC and AC3

>>>> using HTML5 the browser should automatically choose the one it can
>>>>
>>> support.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> InternetExplorer 9 supports AAC, so does Safari and so does Chrome.

>>>> So
>>>>
>>> that
>>>
>>>> covers around 50% of browsers. BUT ... it also covers the two main
OSes.
>>>>
>>>> Firefox is the other 50% ... and that means Ogg ... not sure if 
>>>> firefox supports AC3 but I dont think it does.
>>>>
>>>> The only question is whether or not the Browser can successfully 
>>>> stream
>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>> 5.1 channels to the sound card connected to multiple speakers.
>>>>
>>>> ... any reports of success or failure would be appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Etienne
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Re: [Sursound] online multichannel release: HTML5 test

[Sampo Syreeni]

On 2011-12-01, Martin Leese wrote:

You could try using your own HTML5 page to offer one option at a time. 
If two of the three don't work then you will know.


But in a sense it's a valid question at another level. Does HTML5 (in 
its various forms, mostly H.264 i.e. AAC) reliably fall back to 
something usable when you broadcast multichannel material? If it does 
not, what's the use of it? If it does, does it always do so, reliably? 
If it does but not always, when precisely does it sound right even in 
mono, stereo, 5.1, in which setups?...


For me, none of Etienne's files produce any sound, even if they play 
just fine otherwise. My setup is a laptop with mere stereo, over the 
newest version of XP, utilizing both the newest versions of VLC and 
WinAmp for playback.

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Re: [Sursound] online multichannel release: HTML5 test

[etienne deleflie]

Hi Mick,

If you are talking about this page:
http://soundofspace.com/static/test_html5.html

then all feeds are 5.1  if you are hearing stereo it is your browser
that has decided to interpret the 5.1 feed as stereo. Any settings for that
would be browser side.

But to find out which of the three files the browser has chosen to use is
difficult. On Firefox 8, I can right click on the player and do 'copy audio
location'  (the file is the ogg one). This doesn't work on Safari...
not sure about Explorer

good question though  there must be a way.

Etienne


On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 9:14 PM, mick ritchie  wrote:

>
> Etienne -
>
> I can play back stereo from your player in firefox3 and Safari but not 5.1
> - my
> 5.1 box doesnt see dolby digital just stereo.  Is there any way of telling
> which
> feed my browser accesses?
>
> mick
>
> On 29 Nov 2011, at 23:51, etienne deleflie wrote:
>
>  Hi Fabio,
>>
>> Worked fine with Safari and Mac OSX.
>>
>>> I tried using jack. It immediately showed the 6 channel web process in
>>> the
>>> routing window!
>>> Also without jack it directly played back.
>>>
>>> Could you give some background on the HTML5 implementation or on how you
>>> realized this?
>>>
>>>
>> its simple. One of HTML5's advantages is that it is the browser that
>> supplies the media players. This means less need for 3rd party media
>> players like Flash / Quicktime / VLC etc. That means less barriers to
>> entry
>> .. which means there is a growing chance that more people will 'just hear'
>> 5.1 coming out of their connected speakers (if they have them connected to
>> a 5.1 card).
>>
>> Here is what the HTML5 code looks like ( is an HTML5 tag):
>>
>> 
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>
>> Looks like your browser does not support HTML 5.
>> Non HTML5 code would go here. Perhaps a quicktime plugin for the old
>> browsers.
>>
>> 
>>
>> The browser chooses whichever one it can play, and supplies the media
>> player. And that seems to be:
>>
>> IE9 + : AAC
>> Safari: AAC
>> Chrome: AAC / Vorbis
>> Firefox 8+: none of them, but if you have VLC installed it will have a go
>> at OGG and perhaps AC3 opened in VLC.
>>
>> It is Firefox that fails us here. Firefox can play Vorbis files, but not
>> multichannel ones.
>>
>> Etienne
>>
>>
>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Fabio
>>>
>>> Am 27.11.2011 um 05:08 schrieb etienne deleflie:
>>>
>>>  I've been meaning to try out HTML5's capabilities for a while, now seems

>>> a
>>>
 good time.

 http://soundofspace.com/**static/test_html5.html

 This page hosts an (ambisonicaly decoded) 5.1 file in AAC and AC3 
 using HTML5 the browser should automatically choose the one it can

>>> support.
>>>

 InternetExplorer 9 supports AAC, so does Safari and so does Chrome. So

>>> that
>>>
 covers around 50% of browsers. BUT ... it also covers the two main OSes.

 Firefox is the other 50% ... and that means Ogg ... not sure if firefox
 supports AC3 but I dont think it does.

 The only question is whether or not the Browser can successfully stream

>>> the
>>>
 5.1 channels to the sound card connected to multiple speakers.

 ... any reports of success or failure would be appreciated.

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Re: [Sursound] online multichannel release: HTML5 test

[Martin Leese]

mick ritchie  wrote:

> Etienne -
>
> I can play back stereo from your player in firefox3 and Safari but
> not 5.1 - my
> 5.1 box doesnt see dolby digital just stereo.  Is there any way of
> telling which
> feed my browser accesses?

You could try using your own HTML5 page to
offer one option at a time.  If two of the three
don't work then you will know.

Here is the snippet of HTML5 code that
Etienne posted:

>> Here is what the HTML5 code looks like ( is an HTML5 tag):
>>
>> 
>>   
>>   
>>   
>>
>> Looks like your browser does not support HTML 5.
>> Non HTML5 code would go here. Perhaps a quicktime plugin for the old
>> browsers.
>>
>> 

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Re: [Sursound] online multichannel release: HTML5 test

[mick ritchie]

Etienne -

I can play back stereo from your player in firefox3 and Safari but  
not 5.1 - my
5.1 box doesnt see dolby digital just stereo.  Is there any way of  
telling which

feed my browser accesses?

mick
On 29 Nov 2011, at 23:51, etienne deleflie wrote:


Hi Fabio,

Worked fine with Safari and Mac OSX.
I tried using jack. It immediately showed the 6 channel web  
process in the

routing window!
Also without jack it directly played back.

Could you give some background on the HTML5 implementation or on  
how you

realized this?



its simple. One of HTML5's advantages is that it is the browser that
supplies the media players. This means less need for 3rd party media
players like Flash / Quicktime / VLC etc. That means less barriers  
to entry
.. which means there is a growing chance that more people will  
'just hear'
5.1 coming out of their connected speakers (if they have them  
connected to

a 5.1 card).

Here is what the HTML5 code looks like ( is an HTML5 tag):


  
  
  

Looks like your browser does not support HTML 5.
Non HTML5 code would go here. Perhaps a quicktime plugin for the old
browsers.



The browser chooses whichever one it can play, and supplies the media
player. And that seems to be:

IE9 + : AAC
Safari: AAC
Chrome: AAC / Vorbis
Firefox 8+: none of them, but if you have VLC installed it will  
have a go

at OGG and perhaps AC3 opened in VLC.

It is Firefox that fails us here. Firefox can play Vorbis files,  
but not

multichannel ones.

Etienne




Regards

Fabio

Am 27.11.2011 um 05:08 schrieb etienne deleflie:

I've been meaning to try out HTML5's capabilities for a while,  
now seems

a

good time.

http://soundofspace.com/static/test_html5.html

This page hosts an (ambisonicaly decoded) 5.1 file in AAC and  
AC3 

using HTML5 the browser should automatically choose the one it can

support.


InternetExplorer 9 supports AAC, so does Safari and so does  
Chrome. So

that
covers around 50% of browsers. BUT ... it also covers the two  
main OSes.


Firefox is the other 50% ... and that means Ogg ... not sure if  
firefox

supports AC3 but I dont think it does.

The only question is whether or not the Browser can successfully  
stream

the

5.1 channels to the sound card connected to multiple speakers.

... any reports of success or failure would be appreciated.

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[Gregory Maxwell]

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:51 PM, etienne deleflie  wrote:
> It is Firefox that fails us here. Firefox can play Vorbis files, but not
> multichannel ones.

People following this subject may be interested in this Mozilla bug:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=521615
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Re: [Sursound] online multichannel release: HTML5 test

[etienne deleflie]

Hi Fabio,

Worked fine with Safari and Mac OSX.
> I tried using jack. It immediately showed the 6 channel web process in the
> routing window!
> Also without jack it directly played back.
>
> Could you give some background on the HTML5 implementation or on how you
> realized this?
>

its simple. One of HTML5's advantages is that it is the browser that
supplies the media players. This means less need for 3rd party media
players like Flash / Quicktime / VLC etc. That means less barriers to entry
.. which means there is a growing chance that more people will 'just hear'
5.1 coming out of their connected speakers (if they have them connected to
a 5.1 card).

Here is what the HTML5 code looks like ( is an HTML5 tag):


  
  
  

Looks like your browser does not support HTML 5.
Non HTML5 code would go here. Perhaps a quicktime plugin for the old
browsers.



The browser chooses whichever one it can play, and supplies the media
player. And that seems to be:

IE9 + : AAC
Safari: AAC
Chrome: AAC / Vorbis
Firefox 8+: none of them, but if you have VLC installed it will have a go
at OGG and perhaps AC3 opened in VLC.

It is Firefox that fails us here. Firefox can play Vorbis files, but not
multichannel ones.

Etienne


>
> Regards
>
> Fabio
>
> Am 27.11.2011 um 05:08 schrieb etienne deleflie:
>
> > I've been meaning to try out HTML5's capabilities for a while, now seems
> a
> > good time.
> >
> > http://soundofspace.com/static/test_html5.html
> >
> > This page hosts an (ambisonicaly decoded) 5.1 file in AAC and AC3 
> > using HTML5 the browser should automatically choose the one it can
> support.
> >
> > InternetExplorer 9 supports AAC, so does Safari and so does Chrome. So
> that
> > covers around 50% of browsers. BUT ... it also covers the two main OSes.
> >
> > Firefox is the other 50% ... and that means Ogg ... not sure if firefox
> > supports AC3 but I dont think it does.
> >
> > The only question is whether or not the Browser can successfully stream
> the
> > 5.1 channels to the sound card connected to multiple speakers.
> >
> > ... any reports of success or failure would be appreciated.
> >
> > Etienne
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[Fabio Kaiser]

Worked fine with Safari and Mac OSX. 
I tried using jack. It immediately showed the 6 channel web process in the 
routing window!
Also without jack it directly played back. 

Could you give some background on the HTML5 implementation or on how you 
realized this?

Regards

Fabio

Am 27.11.2011 um 05:08 schrieb etienne deleflie:

> I've been meaning to try out HTML5's capabilities for a while, now seems a
> good time.
> 
> http://soundofspace.com/static/test_html5.html
> 
> This page hosts an (ambisonicaly decoded) 5.1 file in AAC and AC3 
> using HTML5 the browser should automatically choose the one it can support.
> 
> InternetExplorer 9 supports AAC, so does Safari and so does Chrome. So that
> covers around 50% of browsers. BUT ... it also covers the two main OSes.
> 
> Firefox is the other 50% ... and that means Ogg ... not sure if firefox
> supports AC3 but I dont think it does.
> 
> The only question is whether or not the Browser can successfully stream the
> 5.1 channels to the sound card connected to multiple speakers.
> 
> ... any reports of success or failure would be appreciated.
> 
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On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:18 AM, Bill de Garis  wrote:

> Ahh!
> That's nice!
> It asks if I want to play with VLC and then it sounds very nice even in
> stereo (which is all I have on my pc).
>

ah ok ... so it is worth including Vorbis then.

Etienne


> I actually get a strong sense out to about 180 deg either side of me
> whereas my (cheap studio reference) monitors are either side of my screen.
> (all the physical space I have). About 70 deg apart.
>
> Bill
>
>
> On 27/11/11 12:43 a.m., etienne deleflie wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>>
>> I was expecting that Firefox would not attempt to play the file at all ...
>> strange that it attempts to play the file at all.
>>
>> What happens if you go to this URL in firefox:
>>
>> http://audio.soundofspace.com/**ajh/eight-directions.ac3
>>
>> Etienne
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Bill de Garis  wrote:
>>
>>  Latest version of Firefox (8.0) on Win7 64bit.
>>> Alls I get it the spinning dots when I press play.
>>> Nothing else.
>>> No sound.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>> On 26/11/11 8:08 p.m., etienne deleflie wrote:
>>>
>>>  I've been meaning to try out HTML5's capabilities for a while, now
 seems a
 good time.

 http://soundofspace.com/static/test_html5.html
 
 >


 This page hosts an (ambisonicaly decoded) 5.1 file in AAC and AC3 
 using HTML5 the browser should automatically choose the one it can
 support.

 InternetExplorer 9 supports AAC, so does Safari and so does Chrome. So
 that
 covers around 50% of browsers. BUT ... it also covers the two main OSes.

 Firefox is the other 50% ... and that means Ogg ... not sure if firefox
 supports AC3 but I dont think it does.

 The only question is whether or not the Browser can successfully stream
 the
 5.1 channels to the sound card connected to multiple speakers.

 ... any reports of success or failure would be appreciated.

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[etienne deleflie]

On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Oliver Oli wrote:

> I don't see the player in webos, because the browser doesn't show any
> default controls (but audio and video with custom controls work). my
> tablet wouldn't play surround sound, but I was interested if it plays
> embedded 5.1 files at all.
>
> you can offer multiple formats in an audio or video tag.
>


if you do a 'view source' you'll see that I'm offering 3 formats ... AAC,
AC3 and Vorbis

Etienne


>
> see https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Using_audio_and_video_in_Firefox
>
>  11/27/11, etienne deleflie  wrote:
> > I've now replaced the AC3 with a 5.1 Ogg Vorbis file.
> >
> > http://soundofspace.com/static/test_html5.html
> >
> > Firefox now reads it. Unfortunately, Firefox apparently cant play 5.1
> files
> > ... so it just plays the first two channels. Rather disappointing ...
> > especially given that Chrome seems to be able to play the 5.1 Ogg file
> just
> > fine.
> >
> > Here's the Firefox Bugzilla report (lodged in 2009) about firefox not
> being
> > able to play 5.1 Vorbis files:
> > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=521615
> >
> > So the best bet is just AAC.
> >
> > Etienne
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:43 PM, etienne deleflie
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Bill,
> >>
> >> I was expecting that Firefox would not attempt to play the file at all
> ...
> >> strange that it attempts to play the file at all.
> >>
> >> What happens if you go to this URL in firefox:
> >>
> >> http://audio.soundofspace.com/ajh/eight-directions.ac3
> >>
> >> Etienne
> >>
> >> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Bill de Garis  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Latest version of Firefox (8.0) on Win7 64bit.
> >>> Alls I get it the spinning dots when I press play.
> >>> Nothing else.
> >>> No sound.
> >>>
> >>> Bill
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 26/11/11 8:08 p.m., etienne deleflie wrote:
> >>>
>  I've been meaning to try out HTML5's capabilities for a while, now
> seems
>  a
>  good time.
> 
>  http://soundofspace.com/**static/test_html5.html<
> http://soundofspace.com/static/test_html5.html>
> 
>  This page hosts an (ambisonicaly decoded) 5.1 file in AAC and AC3 
>  using HTML5 the browser should automatically choose the one it can
>  support.
> 
>  InternetExplorer 9 supports AAC, so does Safari and so does Chrome. So
>  that
>  covers around 50% of browsers. BUT ... it also covers the two main
> OSes.
> 
>  Firefox is the other 50% ... and that means Ogg ... not sure if
> firefox
>  supports AC3 but I dont think it does.
> 
>  The only question is whether or not the Browser can successfully
> stream
>  the
>  5.1 channels to the sound card connected to multiple speakers.
> 
>  ... any reports of success or failure would be appreciated.
> 
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[Garth Paine]

Thats very interesting - thanks.  It works remarkably well in Chrome, listening 
on stereo (iPhone) headphones on my MacbookAir

Cheers

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On 27/11/2011, at 3:20 AM, etienne deleflie wrote:

> I've now replaced the AC3 with a 5.1 Ogg Vorbis file.
> 
> http://soundofspace.com/static/test_html5.html
> 
> Firefox now reads it. Unfortunately, Firefox apparently cant play 5.1 files
> ... so it just plays the first two channels. Rather disappointing ...
> especially given that Chrome seems to be able to play the 5.1 Ogg file just
> fine.
> 
> Here's the Firefox Bugzilla report (lodged in 2009) about firefox not being
> able to play 5.1 Vorbis files:
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=521615
> 
> So the best bet is just AAC.
> 
> Etienne
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:43 PM, etienne deleflie wrote:
> 
>> Bill,
>> 
>> I was expecting that Firefox would not attempt to play the file at all ...
>> strange that it attempts to play the file at all.
>> 
>> What happens if you go to this URL in firefox:
>> 
>> http://audio.soundofspace.com/ajh/eight-directions.ac3
>> 
>> Etienne
>> 
>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Bill de Garis  wrote:
>> 
>>> Latest version of Firefox (8.0) on Win7 64bit.
>>> Alls I get it the spinning dots when I press play.
>>> Nothing else.
>>> No sound.
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 26/11/11 8:08 p.m., etienne deleflie wrote:
>>> 
 I've been meaning to try out HTML5's capabilities for a while, now seems
 a
 good time.
 
 http://soundofspace.com/**static/test_html5.html
 
 This page hosts an (ambisonicaly decoded) 5.1 file in AAC and AC3 
 using HTML5 the browser should automatically choose the one it can
 support.
 
 InternetExplorer 9 supports AAC, so does Safari and so does Chrome. So
 that
 covers around 50% of browsers. BUT ... it also covers the two main OSes.
 
 Firefox is the other 50% ... and that means Ogg ... not sure if firefox
 supports AC3 but I dont think it does.
 
 The only question is whether or not the Browser can successfully stream
 the
 5.1 channels to the sound card connected to multiple speakers.
 
 ... any reports of success or failure would be appreciated.
 
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Re: [Sursound] online multichannel release: HTML5 test

[Bill de Garis]

Well it's an improvement of sorts...
It opens the player, downloads and begins to play the file, then plays to the 
end.
(Streams fine)
Just one problem, heh, no sound!

Bill

On 27/11/11 2:20 a.m., etienne deleflie wrote:

I've now replaced the AC3 with a 5.1 Ogg Vorbis file.

http://soundofspace.com/static/test_html5.html

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[Bill de Garis]

Ahh!
That's nice!
It asks if I want to play with VLC and then it sounds very nice even in stereo (which is 
all I have on my pc).
I actually get a strong sense out to about 180 deg either side of me whereas my (cheap 
studio reference) monitors are either side of my screen. (all the physical space I 
have). About 70 deg apart.


Bill

On 27/11/11 12:43 a.m., etienne deleflie wrote:

Bill,

I was expecting that Firefox would not attempt to play the file at all ...
strange that it attempts to play the file at all.

What happens if you go to this URL in firefox:

http://audio.soundofspace.com/ajh/eight-directions.ac3

Etienne

On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Bill de Garis  wrote:


Latest version of Firefox (8.0) on Win7 64bit.
Alls I get it the spinning dots when I press play.
Nothing else.
No sound.

Bill


On 26/11/11 8:08 p.m., etienne deleflie wrote:


I've been meaning to try out HTML5's capabilities for a while, now seems a
good time.

http://soundofspace.com/**static/test_html5.html

This page hosts an (ambisonicaly decoded) 5.1 file in AAC and AC3 
using HTML5 the browser should automatically choose the one it can
support.

InternetExplorer 9 supports AAC, so does Safari and so does Chrome. So
that
covers around 50% of browsers. BUT ... it also covers the two main OSes.

Firefox is the other 50% ... and that means Ogg ... not sure if firefox
supports AC3 but I dont think it does.

The only question is whether or not the Browser can successfully stream
the
5.1 channels to the sound card connected to multiple speakers.

... any reports of success or failure would be appreciated.

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Re: [Sursound] online multichannel release: HTML5 test

[Oliver Oli]

I don't see the player in webos, because the browser doesn't show any
default controls (but audio and video with custom controls work). my
tablet wouldn't play surround sound, but I was interested if it plays
embedded 5.1 files at all.

you can offer multiple formats in an audio or video tag.

see https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Using_audio_and_video_in_Firefox

 11/27/11, etienne deleflie  wrote:
> I've now replaced the AC3 with a 5.1 Ogg Vorbis file.
>
> http://soundofspace.com/static/test_html5.html
>
> Firefox now reads it. Unfortunately, Firefox apparently cant play 5.1 files
> ... so it just plays the first two channels. Rather disappointing ...
> especially given that Chrome seems to be able to play the 5.1 Ogg file just
> fine.
>
> Here's the Firefox Bugzilla report (lodged in 2009) about firefox not being
> able to play 5.1 Vorbis files:
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=521615
>
> So the best bet is just AAC.
>
> Etienne
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:43 PM, etienne deleflie
> wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>>
>> I was expecting that Firefox would not attempt to play the file at all ...
>> strange that it attempts to play the file at all.
>>
>> What happens if you go to this URL in firefox:
>>
>> http://audio.soundofspace.com/ajh/eight-directions.ac3
>>
>> Etienne
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Bill de Garis  wrote:
>>
>>> Latest version of Firefox (8.0) on Win7 64bit.
>>> Alls I get it the spinning dots when I press play.
>>> Nothing else.
>>> No sound.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>> On 26/11/11 8:08 p.m., etienne deleflie wrote:
>>>
 I've been meaning to try out HTML5's capabilities for a while, now seems
 a
 good time.

 http://soundofspace.com/**static/test_html5.html

 This page hosts an (ambisonicaly decoded) 5.1 file in AAC and AC3 
 using HTML5 the browser should automatically choose the one it can
 support.

 InternetExplorer 9 supports AAC, so does Safari and so does Chrome. So
 that
 covers around 50% of browsers. BUT ... it also covers the two main OSes.

 Firefox is the other 50% ... and that means Ogg ... not sure if firefox
 supports AC3 but I dont think it does.

 The only question is whether or not the Browser can successfully stream
 the
 5.1 channels to the sound card connected to multiple speakers.

 ... any reports of success or failure would be appreciated.

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[Paul Hodges]

--On 27 November 2011 15:08 +1100 etienne deleflie  
wrote:



http://soundofspace.com/static/test_html5.html
... any reports of success or failure would be appreciated.


It plays fine in the current version of Opera on Windows 7 x64 (I haven't 
tried to see which codec it's using, and I haven't told my system anything 
about surround, so it plays in stereo).


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[etienne deleflie]

I've now replaced the AC3 with a 5.1 Ogg Vorbis file.

http://soundofspace.com/static/test_html5.html

Firefox now reads it. Unfortunately, Firefox apparently cant play 5.1 files
... so it just plays the first two channels. Rather disappointing ...
especially given that Chrome seems to be able to play the 5.1 Ogg file just
fine.

Here's the Firefox Bugzilla report (lodged in 2009) about firefox not being
able to play 5.1 Vorbis files:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=521615

So the best bet is just AAC.

Etienne



On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:43 PM, etienne deleflie wrote:

> Bill,
>
> I was expecting that Firefox would not attempt to play the file at all ...
> strange that it attempts to play the file at all.
>
> What happens if you go to this URL in firefox:
>
> http://audio.soundofspace.com/ajh/eight-directions.ac3
>
> Etienne
>
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Bill de Garis  wrote:
>
>> Latest version of Firefox (8.0) on Win7 64bit.
>> Alls I get it the spinning dots when I press play.
>> Nothing else.
>> No sound.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>> On 26/11/11 8:08 p.m., etienne deleflie wrote:
>>
>>> I've been meaning to try out HTML5's capabilities for a while, now seems
>>> a
>>> good time.
>>>
>>> http://soundofspace.com/**static/test_html5.html
>>>
>>> This page hosts an (ambisonicaly decoded) 5.1 file in AAC and AC3 
>>> using HTML5 the browser should automatically choose the one it can
>>> support.
>>>
>>> InternetExplorer 9 supports AAC, so does Safari and so does Chrome. So
>>> that
>>> covers around 50% of browsers. BUT ... it also covers the two main OSes.
>>>
>>> Firefox is the other 50% ... and that means Ogg ... not sure if firefox
>>> supports AC3 but I dont think it does.
>>>
>>> The only question is whether or not the Browser can successfully stream
>>> the
>>> 5.1 channels to the sound card connected to multiple speakers.
>>>
>>> ... any reports of success or failure would be appreciated.
>>>
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[etienne deleflie]

Bill,

I was expecting that Firefox would not attempt to play the file at all ...
strange that it attempts to play the file at all.

What happens if you go to this URL in firefox:

http://audio.soundofspace.com/ajh/eight-directions.ac3

Etienne

On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Bill de Garis  wrote:

> Latest version of Firefox (8.0) on Win7 64bit.
> Alls I get it the spinning dots when I press play.
> Nothing else.
> No sound.
>
> Bill
>
>
> On 26/11/11 8:08 p.m., etienne deleflie wrote:
>
>> I've been meaning to try out HTML5's capabilities for a while, now seems a
>> good time.
>>
>> http://soundofspace.com/**static/test_html5.html
>>
>> This page hosts an (ambisonicaly decoded) 5.1 file in AAC and AC3 
>> using HTML5 the browser should automatically choose the one it can
>> support.
>>
>> InternetExplorer 9 supports AAC, so does Safari and so does Chrome. So
>> that
>> covers around 50% of browsers. BUT ... it also covers the two main OSes.
>>
>> Firefox is the other 50% ... and that means Ogg ... not sure if firefox
>> supports AC3 but I dont think it does.
>>
>> The only question is whether or not the Browser can successfully stream
>> the
>> 5.1 channels to the sound card connected to multiple speakers.
>>
>> ... any reports of success or failure would be appreciated.
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[Bill de Garis]

Latest version of Firefox (8.0) on Win7 64bit.
Alls I get it the spinning dots when I press play.
Nothing else.
No sound.

Bill

On 26/11/11 8:08 p.m., etienne deleflie wrote:

I've been meaning to try out HTML5's capabilities for a while, now seems a
good time.

http://soundofspace.com/static/test_html5.html

This page hosts an (ambisonicaly decoded) 5.1 file in AAC and AC3 
using HTML5 the browser should automatically choose the one it can support.

InternetExplorer 9 supports AAC, so does Safari and so does Chrome. So that
covers around 50% of browsers. BUT ... it also covers the two main OSes.

Firefox is the other 50% ... and that means Ogg ... not sure if firefox
supports AC3 but I dont think it does.

The only question is whether or not the Browser can successfully stream the
5.1 channels to the sound card connected to multiple speakers.

... any reports of success or failure would be appreciated.

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[Sursound] online multichannel release: HTML5 test

[etienne deleflie]

I've been meaning to try out HTML5's capabilities for a while, now seems a
good time.

http://soundofspace.com/static/test_html5.html

This page hosts an (ambisonicaly decoded) 5.1 file in AAC and AC3 
using HTML5 the browser should automatically choose the one it can support.

InternetExplorer 9 supports AAC, so does Safari and so does Chrome. So that
covers around 50% of browsers. BUT ... it also covers the two main OSes.

Firefox is the other 50% ... and that means Ogg ... not sure if firefox
supports AC3 but I dont think it does.

The only question is whether or not the Browser can successfully stream the
5.1 channels to the sound card connected to multiple speakers.

... any reports of success or failure would be appreciated.

Etienne
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