[Biofuel] Fwd: article on biodiesel in Rural VT newsletter
Watch out, its a heavy duty rant: Published by the farmer advocacy group Rural Vermont from: http://www.vtce.org/biodiesel.html Rural Vermontâs Farm Policy Network News September 2004, Issue #26 Not the Biodiesel You Think It Is By Michael Feiner What starts at the pump and comes out of the tailpipe is not the beginning and end of the discussion on biodiesel, or other âenvironmentally friendly alternatives.â As with everything else in todayâs commodified consumer culture, if you want a fair cost/benefit analysis, youâre going to have to follow the waste stream back a little further. Most of the biodiesel available today in New England is brought to you by World Energy Alternatives, LLC, a privately owned company controlling most of the US market for this new fuel. The distribution and production of biodiesel is being regulated by the EPA and DOE, two institutions with proven track records for favoring big business over independent producers. Their aim is not to allow the people control of their resources, or to insure higher quality, or to lower the gross pollution of our delicate biosphere, but rather to further consolidate the market in the lap of transnational corporate interests, and keep the public nipping at the pump. According to World Energyâs own website, biodiesel is primarily made from, âvirgin vegetable oils (primarily soybeans)â redirecting the market âsurplusâ of vegetable oil into another saleable form. Why is there a surplus of domestic soybean oil? Because the regulatory agencies in the much of the rest of the world have declined to accept American export of genetically engineered (GE) soy products, i.e. the US âsurplusâ commodity. According to a recent article in the Brattleboro Reformer titled, Support for biodiesel growing in Vermont, (9/18/04, Howard Weiss-Tisman) âVermont farmers grow about 1,000 acres of soybeans which mostly goes to cow feed. Lane (David Lane, deputy secretary for agricultural development at the Vermont Agency of Agriculture) said he wanted to hear what increased production might mean for the Vermont farmer.â What he and others involved in the big push for biodiesel production in the state do not seem to be concerned with is what increased production of Genetically Engineered Soy in Vermont will mean for the environment, for health, and for the future. Of the 1,000 acres of soy already being grown in Vermont, it is safe to say that most of that is GE, and the variety spreading like wildfire across the country and now into Vermont is Monsantoâs Roundup Ready Soy. Vermonters will not miss this obvious exclusion in the biodiesel debate and just be blinded by the pretty golden glow around biodieselâ¦Or will they? Unlike the United States, much of the rest of the world has been more skeptical and cautious on the issue of genetic engineering, having the foresight to see the threat this technology as pollution would have on their environment. In 2002, the authorities of Zimbabwe even went so far as to deny the import of US food aid in the midst of a widespread hunger crises because the âfoodâ , mostly whole corn kernels, was genetically engineered and the risk that some kernels might end up being planted in the ground was too high. To wit, the Bush administration has also tied the acceptance of GE exports to AIDS relief packages and international trade security. The corporate and government interests behind this dangerous new technology have found their sheepâs clothing, or cowâs, with the advent of biodiesel. Now they can steal into bed with well-meaning environmental organizations and their constituencies, still pushing their same devil seed onto an unknowing public, only this time in a package a public clamoring for âalternativesâ canât resist; biodiesel; agribusinessâ new Trojan Horse. But it doesnât have to be that way. Two more wars in the last four years, and the ongoing neo-colonial operations in Latin America to secure more US corporate control of petroleum resources, have woken a few people up from the calm stupor of the late 90âs. This and the drastic spike in the price for this Americaâs greatest addiction, oil, have urged the 21st century environmentalist to ratchet up the pressure in the push for âalternative energy,â especially biodiesel, and Vermont is no exception. At the same time people have been raising their voices loud across the globe against genetic engineering. The last ten years in Vermont have seen a grassroots movement against GE and the planting of these toxic crops in the state virtually explode in the legislature and across 80 town meetings, in the streets and on the farms. The two are not mutually exclusive points, and close attention is needed as the push for alternatives marches on, alternatives
Re: [Biofuel] Reducing Iodine Value
Thanks Ernie, I just didn't want to create a bigger problem for myself by wrecking a diesel engine if when I can get things sorted at my end. Gregg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Gregg, I am coming in late on this topic, and my memory is lapsing with age, so please forgive a little dawdling. My recollection is that the iodine number is a measure of the quantity of double bonds in an oil, of any kind. The reason you might worry about double bonds is that they represent chemical activity, or instability, of the oil. For example, flax oil requires refrigeration to preserve its food value because of its high double bond content (i.e., omega-3 content). Northern-climate organisms avoid low-temperature problems (freezing) of their oils by keeping chains short (like canola oil) or by increasing the content of double bonds, which also lowers the oil's melting point (as in cold-water fish oils). So, what I am saying is-- biodiesel with double bonds will have less low-temperature problems, but increasing storage problems. The standard chemical treatment to remove double bonds is to hydrogenate, which a backyard biodiesel maker isn't going to get into. The product in this case is Crisco. What you really want to do is shorten the chains, but that's not easy either since it also requires hydrogen. (Experts out there check me on this.) As for the questionable oil from fast-food places, the unstable oils are already along the path of change, having absorbed oxygen, forming more acid groups and other nasty stuff. (Good reason to eat at home, but still get your fuel from McDonald's.) These contaminants are naturally removed in making your biodiesel, I believe. (Not completely sure.) So, I don't think you have a serious problem here. Ernie Rogers Gregg said, Hi Everyone, I recently posted a question regarding the Iodine Value of corn oil. With help, I was able to find the answer I was looking for. Since the I.V. is important, I was wondering if there was a simple way to reduce the I.V. on questionable WVO. I have sources, but I have no idea what it is that I'm getting, soybean, peanut, canola, etc. As always, any help suggestions are greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Gregg Davidson ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ - Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! Get yours free! ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Peak Oil Cosmic Questions
Nat, I do not have your philosophical views on this, but have tried to understand it as good as possible, to give our web site visitors information, Fossil energy depletion and emission. http://energysavingnow.com/depletion/ Hakan At 11:57 PM 11/18/2004, you wrote: Dear List, Since reading Matt Savinar's book Life After the Oil Crash my eyes have been opened to a whole new way of looking at current events. (http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/) Intuitively, I had believed and sensed many of the things discussed in the book, but this integrated all the various facts into one whole which is drastically affecting my actions. It is a direct result of reading that book that I am now subscribed to this list, reading the archives, and learning about all kinds of exciting projects. I am looking for a used Diesel car and plan on making my own BD ASAP. You will probably see some emails from me in the near future asking all kinds of newbie questions as I embark on this exciting journey. But in the meantime, I wanted to ask everyone some more general questions relating to Peak Oil and your perceptions/opinions. To the credit of people like Matt Savinar and others who are spreading the word about Peak Oil, their alarmist tone and gloomy predictions shock the ignorant out of their seats and instigate (hopefully positive) change. However, to their fault, that very same tone of alarm and doom-prophecy seems to be lacking a level-headed quality which takes into account the great capacity humanity has to elevate itself to do great things. So, while I see the point of the Peak Oil argument and am doing some things about it (not to mention telling everyone I know), here are some more cosmic questions that I was hoping some people on this list may have some interesting thoughts on: Despite the obvious trends in global politics that are very much inline with Peak Oil's predictions, there is also a global counter-trend, which is inline with mystic predictions of evolution of consciousness: more people are spending more time learning meditation, self-awareness, dietary changes, spiritual searches. This is not the organized religion mentioned in the recent thread on fascism. This is personal, mystical journeys. It is a widespread phenomonon worldwide. - According to some astrologers, we are in a window of time that is very conducive towards the unification of humanity. This began last June 6th with the Venus Transit and will last till June 2012. This time period was predicted by ancient Mayan texts as a very important time for humanity. See: http://www.experiencefestival.com/ or http://www.awakening-healing.com/A-HNewsLetters/2004/Venus_Transit_KW_404.htm Has anyone in the Peak Oil community done any astrological inquiries as to the trend of the planet? Are we really headed towards the doom and mass dying that is predicted, according to Astrologists ? - According to Hindu/Yogic metaphysics, the universe moves through periods of light and dark. There are 4 distinct stages (in order of evil - truth): 1) Kali Yuga 2) Dwapara Yuga 3) Treta Yuga 4) Satya Yuga Many believe that we have already entered Dwapara Yuga. Some believe we are still in Kali Yuga. Everyone is certain that we are on the upswing of this cycle, meaning that we are headed towards greater truth consciousness in all realms of the world. (http://baharna.com/karma/yuga.htm) So my next question is : where do the Peak Oil predictions fit within the context of the mystical sages of this world ? Has anyone consulted any sages/prophets/mystics to see where they see the universe headed ? Essentially my questions are the same. Where does Peak Oil's vision of catastrophic world wars, death, destruction fit within the assumption that the universe's underlying goal is Good? That humanity's direction is towards higher consciousness? That we are not bacteria on a petri dish but rather highly evolved creatures that have a tremendous capacity towards the Supramental (http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Supramental_Descent/id/1933) ? Please note that I am not a subscriber to any one belief system or theory. I am, like anyone else, just trying to figure out whats going on with the universe through whatever means possible. I look forward to hearing any insights you all may have. Thanks Nat ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Peak Oil Cosmic Questions
on 11/18/04 2:57 PM, Nathaniel Rahav at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To the credit of people like Matt Savinar..shock the ignorant out of their seats and instigate (hopefully positive) change. However, to their fault,.seems to be lacking a level-headed quality which takes into account the great capacity humanity has to elevate itself to do great things. What sort of great things are you referring to? The one I usually hear about is ending slavery. (It never ended.) Oh, and going to the moon -- if we even DID that, the money was coughed up for military reasons. According to some astrologers, we are in a window of time that is very conducive towards the unification of humanity. I know of no evidentiary model of the physical universe that would support the basic tenets of astrology. Perhaps you have some data beyond the it works for ME anecdotes Everyone is certain that we are on the upswing of this cycle, meaning that we are headed towards greater truth consciousness in all realms of the world. Who is this everyone? I for one am skeptical. A strong leader who understands the requirements of sustainability could do great work worldwide, but most of the existing economic and political structures are actively dedicated to preventing that from happening. Where does Peak Oil's vision of catastrophic world wars, death, destruction fit within the assumption that the universe's underlying goal is Good? Many of my friends would LIKE that to be true. Very few assume it. ...we are not bacteria on a petri dish but rather highly evolved creatures... We evolved into humans a couple million years ago under very different circumstances. Once we achieved technology (fire? the wheel? where did it begin?), we rapidly leapt ahead of our ability to forsee and plan for its consequences. I would guess this is a problem faced cosmos-wide by all species who develop along similar paths. Most probly crash and burn, while a few figure out how to cope. -K ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Peak Oil Cosmic Questions
Ken, At 03:00 AM 11/19/2004, you wrote: on 11/18/04 2:57 PM, Nathaniel Rahav at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Everyone is certain that we are on the upswing of this cycle, meaning that we are headed towards greater truth consciousness in all realms of the world. Who is this everyone? I for one am skeptical. A strong leader who understands the requirements of sustainability could do great work worldwide, but most of the existing economic and political structures are actively dedicated to preventing that from happening. and US is about to waste 4 more years on Bush. LOL (instead of tears) Where does Peak Oil's vision of catastrophic world wars, death, destruction fit within the assumption that the universe's underlying goal is Good? Many of my friends would LIKE that to be true. Very few assume it. me too. snip Hakan ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] What Is Butanol?
stumbled upon a few references to Butanol. I read what little info there was on it, and they claim that it is more miscible(?right spelling?) than ethanol with gasoline and less with water. I read some vague remarks about using Corn Steep Liqour to produce it. My question is, what are butanol and corn steep liquor, and do they have any potential to be used as a gasoline additive, as ethanol is? Anyone with any info on this would really be appreciated. Thank you very much ~ Paul ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] the next president of the Nation Devided.
So the Demorats put out their best man ,but he was beat out by the millions of Jesus Freakos Who haven't a clue of what the hell Biodiesel even is.So now we have to suffer through 4 more years of reality as expressed through the George the Weasel Bush Machine.I think not enough Environmental Damage has stirred the sleeping masses. Maybe the next presidential candidate will be more pro environmental.Personally I think the religious right is a very big problem to over comeDB ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] washing
to settle out any soap. and you can heat it up slightly to help release the remaining water..DB - Original Message - From: fox mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 5:51 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] washing Hi all, I have made biodiesel from wvo. The product appears clearer without washing. When I washed it the biodiesel became murky. After several washes it remained murky. can someone tell me what the problem is? fox ___ Moving house? Beach bar in Thailand? New Wardrobe? Win £10k with Yahoo! Mail to make your dream a reality. Get Yahoo! Mail www.yahoo.co.uk/10k ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] alternative energy and the bad word
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Alternative_Energy_Politics Hi all, I have been thinking of starting this group for some time. Politics and alt.energy is a sensitive subject and this community is a good place for all the political energy discussions that clog up many other alternative energy news groups. So here it is folks. Please feel free to post, vent, fume or otherwise talk about this sometimes volatile subject in a non partisan forum. Please have respect for other members. No flaming or personal insults will be acceptable, however proactive discussions on alternative energy politics are welcome. regards tallex ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] alternative energy and the bad word
Luc - Original Message - From: info [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 8:37 AM Subject: [Biofuel] alternative energy and the bad word http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Alternative_Energy_Politics Hi all, I have been thinking of starting this group for some time. Politics and alt.energy is a sensitive subject and this community is a good place for all the political energy discussions that clog up many other alternative energy news groups. So here it is folks. Please feel free to post, vent, fume or otherwise talk about this sometimes volatile subject in a non partisan forum. Please have respect for other members. No flaming or personal insults will be acceptable, however proactive discussions on alternative energy politics are welcome. regards tallex ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] UK failures over climate change
Greens declare war on Blair for 'failures' over climate change By Marie Woolf, Chief Political Correspondent 19 Nov 2004 http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/story.jsp?story=584399 Britain's leading environmental organisation withdrew support from Tony Blair yesterday over climate change, saying he could not be trusted to reduce global warming. Greenpeace expressed doubts about the Prime Minister's sincerity over tackling climate change, adding that his record on tackling carbon emissions was pathetic. The attack by Stephen Tindale, the Labour-supporting head of Greenpeace, came as Mr Blair and Jacques Chirac, the French President, said that climate change would be one of the two priorities for the G8 group of leading industrialised nations when Britain assumed the presidency next year. The Prime Minister has made tackling global warming a key theme of his tenure in office. Leading environmentalists joined forces yesterday to criticise Mr Blair's record, accusing him of spin while failing to support measures to reduce carbon emissions from cars and planes. They also accused him of not doing enough to promote energy efficiency measures in the building of new homes. Mr Tindale, a former government special adviser on the environment who played a key role in framing Labour's policy on climate change, said Mr Blair cannot be trusted to resist industry lobbying from car manufacturers and airlines. On the climate change issues we have been very supportive of the Government. We have been essentially trying to work with them to promote renewable energy. But we have basically taken a conscious decision that he [Tony Blair] can no longer be given the benefit of the doubt, he said. So far Blair's record on climate change is almost entirely a record of fine words and no action. His repeated failures on this issue is undermining his diplomatic efforts. Greenpeace's change of policy follows a series of meetings within the organisation which one figure said amounted to a declaration of war. The decision to criticise Mr Blair openly over climate change follows the Government's attempts to block energy-efficiency targets in social housing which would help prevent global warming and save lives and to dilute emissions trading targets. It also follows Downing Street's decision to allow industry to emit as much carbon in future as it has in the past. Mr Tindale, Greenpeace's executive director, said Mr Blair's reheated tub-thumping speeches on the world stage were undermined by his failed record in Britain. Emissions of carbon dioxide have actually increased since Blair became Prime Minister. So much for leadership. Through all this, Blair kept on giving the speeches and we kept on trying to believe him, perhaps for too long. We are now going to mobilise a lot more public pressure against them.'' He said the Prime Minister's rhetoric on wanting to tackle climate change bore no relation to his record. World leaders would laugh at Tony Blair because of his dismal record on reducing carbon emissions at home, Mr Tindale said. They have completely failed on road transport and failed to control emissions from air transport. They are in complete denial. Carbon emissions have been increasing and experts have warned Britain will not meet its target of reducing them by 20 per cent below 1990 levels by 2010. There are also fears that the Government may try to water down the target in the next few weeks when it publishes its review of its policy. Tony Juniper, the executive director of Friends of the Earth, said there was a gaping gap between the Prime Minister's rhetoric and leadership on the world stage and his record in the UK. The leadership position of this country is jeopardised by the position at home, he said. The credibility of this country on climate change is essentially derived from the policy choices taken by the Conservatives in the 1980s when they decided to shift from coal to gas generation. Charles Secrett, the former head of Friends of the Earth who now heads ACT, a sustainable development campaign group, said Mr Blair was all talk and no action. Blair thinks he can get away with boosting his green credentials by making a big speech every year on climate change, he said. It's always about the grand scenario and when it comes to putting his own house in order it is always business as usual. Britain's environmental leaders called on Mr Blair last night to restore their trust by pledging a crackdown on car and plane emissions and the introduction of tax incentives to go green, when he publishes his climate change review. Mr Juniper said: We need to shift away from road building and encouraging car use. We need to bring in fiscal incentives to switch away from coal to renewable energy. Mr Tindale, who was aspecial adviser to Michael Meacher, a former environment minister, said Mr Blair cannot be
[Biofuel] UK Can we stop global warming?
Can we stop global warming? http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/article.php4?article_id=3739 Climate change is a growing threat to our survival. Andrew Stone argues that the solution is not a world away, but another world NEW LABOUR has discovered an ingenious method for dealing with climate change÷increasing the amount of greenhouse gases Britain can produce. By a happy coincidence, this is exactly what big business was lobbying for. The only minor drawback with this approach is that our environment will continue to go to hell in a handcart. To see why, we donât need a crystal ball÷just a sober assessment of the damage already taking place. In the 20th century, the earthâs average surface temperature rose by 0.6 degrees centigrade. Not overly worrying, you might think. But the climate is a delicate thing. According to the United Nations Environment Programme, that seemingly small rise meant that the number of people affected by climate disasters went from 740 million in the 1970s to two billion in the 1990s. Such threats are many and diverse. They include more flooding and landslides as sea levels rise. The increase in heat-related deaths, such as the estimated 35,000 people killed in Europe during last summerâs heatwave, is another example. But a hotter world is also a more unpredictable world. A world with more energy pinging around our climate like a manic pinball machine. A world where long established weather patterns are disrupted, and the social systems built around them are thrown into chaos. So in the Sahel region of Africa average rainfall has fallen by a quarter in the last 30 years. The Tuareg people in Niger, whose society has been nomadic for millennia, have been forced to establish ãfixation pointsä in order to survive. And regions dependent on the monsoon for paddy cultivation are living in fear that our brave new world will send the rains elsewhere. Other parts of the world have suffered from a supercharged El Nino cycle, which powered devastating hurricanes in the Americas. More heat will also mean the spread of water-borne diseases such as malaria. Diarrhoea, which kills nearly two million children per year already, will become even more devastating. This is just a taste of what we can expect in the coming years. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) predicts a temperature rise of 5.8 degrees centigrade in the next century if we take a ãbusiness as usualä approach. There was a similarly rapid climate shift of 6 degrees centigrade some 250 million years ago. Itâs known as the Permian Extinction. Between 90 and 95 percent of the earthâs species were wiped out. Then volcanoes were the major cause. This time round industryâs tendency to burn fossil fuels such as oil, coal and gas is the culprit. Atmospheric levels of carbon dioxide, the main greenhouse gas, are a third above pre-industrial amounts and rising fast. A generation after discovering this peril, our governments are still putting short term profit over the future of life on earth. In 1992 they finally decided that something needed to be done. Five years later they launched the Kyoto treaty, which said what they would do, which wasnât very much. This year, after seven years of haggling, Russia put pen to paper and Kyoto came into force. Kyoto committed the industrialised countries to an average 5.2 percent reduction in greenhouse gas emissions from 1990 levels by the end of this decade. This compares to the 60-80 percent reduction that the IPCC reckons is necessary by 2050. This would prevent a rise of over 2 degrees centigrade. ãSure, itâs not enough,ä our governments admitted. ãBut be pragmatic,ä they said. ãWeâll get the principle accepted and move on from there.ä Infamously the US÷responsible for more than a quarter of the worldâs greenhouse gas emissions÷never accepted the principle. Republican and Democratic senators alike lined up to condemn it long before George W Bush entered the White House. The US now produces 15 percent more carbon dioxide than in 1990. But the signatories have done little better. Britainâs emissions are creeping up, and only four countries in the EU are on track to achieve their modest targets. Japan, rather than reduce its emissions by the required 6 percent, has allowed them to rise by 11 percent. Indiaâs emissions are thought to have increased by half. What can explain such criminal negligence? Capitalism, in short. If that sounds crude, consider how many industries have a stake in the status quo. How many produce waste they donât want to pay for, who use oil because itâs cheapest, who transport goods halfway around the world to find the most lucrative market? Consider the fact that petrol-derived plastics are everywhere. Think about how difficult it is to get a car, a CD or a computer repaired. Repairs just arenât as profitable as replacements. Not unless you
RE: [Biofuel] hybrid vehicles
Not that I know of, but there is a hybrid boat drive system for Sailboats. Solomon Technologies uses an electric motor that is driven by a diesel generator. It also charges the batteries when you are sailing by turning the motor and generating electricity. You should see the fuel consumption stats. It uses HALF the fuel a conventional sailboat with the same power does. mel -Original Message- From: Todd Wootton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 9:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] hybrid vehicles Is there such a thing as a hybrid diesel vehicle. Everything that I read about is of hybrid with internal cumbustion but we all know that diesel cars are much more fuel efficient. if we were to combine that with the extra fuel savings of a diesel vehicle and we use the biodiesel.-wow Todd Wootton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Office (905)473-5646 Cellular (705)794-1264 ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 11/1/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 11/1/2004 ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Peak Oil Cosmic Questions
Dear List, Since reading Matt Savinar's book Life After the Oil Crash my eyes have been opened to a whole new way of looking at current events. (http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/) Intuitively, I had believed and sensed many of the things discussed in the book, but this integrated all the various facts into one whole which is drastically affecting my actions. It is a direct result of reading that book that I am now subscribed to this list, reading the archives, and learning about all kinds of exciting projects. I am looking for a used Diesel car and plan on making my own BD ASAP. You will probably see some emails from me in the near future asking all kinds of newbie questions as I embark on this exciting journey. But in the meantime, I wanted to ask everyone some more general questions relating to Peak Oil and your perceptions/opinions. To the credit of people like Matt Savinar and others who are spreading the word about Peak Oil, their alarmist tone and gloomy predictions shock the ignorant out of their seats and instigate (hopefully positive) change. However, to their fault, that very same tone of alarm and doom-prophecy seems to be lacking a level-headed quality which takes into account the great capacity humanity has to elevate itself to do great things. Indeed. We discussed it here previously. This is what I said about it at the time: http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/downloads.html Free until US elections Yeah... squealing like a junkie faced with cold turkey. Too much of Die-off Jay Hanson's influence, not nearly enough of the sort of approach you often see from people here, eg what Hakan says about energy waste, what Todd and others say about localisation of energy supply, what many say about the need to reduce energy use and improve energy efficiency, what me and others say about sustainable farming and energy supply, and what we all know about how seriously, if that's quite the word (it's not), our governments truly take sustainable energy. They haven't even really started to think about it yet, beyond starting to make what they hope might be the right kind of grunting noises. I suppose it has some sort of internal coherence - makes sense if you read it through a keyhole maybe. I guess it's worth the price. Best Keith The whole thread is here, if you'd like to read it: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/39562/1 Some discussion, but not of the sort of questions you're asking. So, while I see the point of the Peak Oil argument and am doing some things about it Well... To go back to the junkie comparison above, would the best reason for quitting heroin be an impending shortage of supply? There are other and better reasons, no? Such as that it will probably kill you, and surely ruin your life. I cross-posted an interview with Adam Porter the other day, in which he answered a question I've asked here about Peak Oil, with some scepticism: GNN: How much oil is left? Porter: This is indeed the correct question to ask as I would expect from GNN. No one knows. See: http://wwia.org/pipermail/biofuel/Week-of-Mon-20041115/002959.html [Biofuel] Peak Oil: A Reality Check (not to mention telling everyone I know), here are some more cosmic questions that I was hoping some people on this list may have some interesting thoughts on: Despite the obvious trends in global politics that are very much inline with Peak Oil's predictions, there is also a global counter-trend, which is inline with mystic predictions of evolution of consciousness: more people are spending more time learning meditation, self-awareness, dietary changes, spiritual searches. ... as they (we) were 40 years ago too. Seems to go in cycles - there was a war then, there's a war now. Sure, there's more to it than that, more to it than oil too. The key event or fact that precipitates a major change is often an imponderable even after the event. Perhaps more often it's a juxtaposition of many events, no use picking on a last straw to blame. Too complicated to predict, though perhaps not to intuit, or to divine. This is not the organized religion mentioned in the recent thread on fascism. This is personal, mystical journeys. It is a widespread phenomonon worldwide. - According to some astrologers, we are in a window of time that is very conducive towards the unification of humanity. This began last June 6th with the Venus Transit and will last till June 2012. This time period was predicted by ancient Mayan texts as a very important time for humanity. See: http://www.experiencefestival.com/ or http://www.awakening-healing.com/A-HNewsLetters/2004/Venus_Transit_KW_ 404.htm Has anyone in the Peak Oil community done any astrological inquiries as to the trend of the planet? Are we really headed towards the doom and mass dying that is predicted, according to Astrologists ? - According to Hindu/Yogic metaphysics, the universe moves through periods
Re: [Biofuel] hybrid vehicles
Is there such a thing as a hybrid diesel vehicle. Everything that I read about is of hybrid with internal cumbustion but we all know that diesel cars are much more fuel efficient. if we were to combine that with the extra fuel savings of a diesel vehicle and we use the biodiesel.-wow See PNGV: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/?keywords=PNGVtime=allusertime =2002-12-31 Information Archive at NNYTech From previous: The three vehicles developed in the US by the Big Three under the abandoned PNGV program all achieved 80mpg and they were all diesel-electric hybrids. There are some details here: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_future.html Do diesels have a future? Do an archive search for PNGV if you want an interesting read: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ This is a good place to start: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/30857/ Best wishes Keith Todd Wootton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Office (905)473-5646 Cellular (705)794-1264 ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] US factory farms exemption for pollution
http://www.organicconsumers.org/Toxic/factory_farms.cfm Factory Farms Want Exemption from Air Pollution Laws From Sierra Club 9/24/03 Bush Administration Nearing Deal to Weaken Protections for Communities Near Factory Farms WASHINGTON - September 24 - Newly obtained documents from the Environmental Protection Agency reveal that the Bush Administration is formalizing a back-room deal with the livestock and poultry industries that would let giant factory farm polluters off the hook for violations of the Clean Air Act and the Superfund hazardous waste law that have protected communities for decades. With this new incriminating evidence in hand, the Sierra Club, Natural Resources Defense Council, and Center on Race, Poverty and the Environment filed a lawsuit today under the Freedom of Information Act, demanding that the Bush Administration divulge information about its closed negotiations with the meat industry. Be it Vice President Cheney's Energy Task Force or this back-room deal for the meat and milk industries,the Bush Administration continues to let polluters write the rules while leaving the public out of the process, said Ken Midkiff of the Sierra Club. In May, environmental groups obtained an industry letter documenting clandestine negotiations with the Bush Administration to shield giant factory farms from the requirements of the Clean Air Act and Superfund hazardous-waste laws. Since then, the Bush Administration has been working on a deal that would allow factory farms to continue polluting without any threat of prosecution. The Bush Administration has rebuffed environmental groups' requests for information about the closed-door meetings, claiming that it has not entered into any 'safe harbor' agreement. However, environmental groups recently obtained a copy of the supposedly non-existent agreement. According to that draft, the Administration would allow the meat and milk industries to ignore clean air and hazardous waste laws indefinitely, asking only that industry monitor its emissions. The Bush Administration has persistently refused to address pollution from factory farms, which concentrate thousands of animals in a single location and release enormous quantities of harmful pollutants. And Utah Mike Leavitt, nominated by President Bush to head the Environmental Protection Agency, has a history of favoring polluting agricultural interests; as governor of Utah, Mr. Leavitt helped to pass a law preventing citizens from bringing state suits against agricultural businesses. Exempting animal factories from basic environmental laws like the Clean Air Act would put thousands of communities at risk, said Brent Newell of the Center on Race, Poverty and the Environment. Instead of protecting those communities, the Bush Administration is working to protect polluters from the laws that safeguard the public welfare. A copy of the draft agreement, the meat industry's memo proposing the amnesty agreement, the environmental groups request for enforcement actions, as well as other relevant documents can be found here. -- -- Bob Allen,http://ozarker.org/bob -- - The modern conservative is engaged in one of Man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness JKG --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Texas Declaratin of Energy Independance
The Texas Renewable Energy Industries Association http://www.treia.org had it's 20th annual meeting this past week and we also had the First Texas Renewable Energy Congress. Delegates were asked to draft a Declaration of Energy Independence. I was a delegate and helped massage some of the language and was also a signer. I have attached it as a PDF because it's prints out beautifully, But will also try and post just the words. mel --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 11/1/2004 ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Text of the PDF
Declaration of Sustainability Presented by the Texas Clean Energy Congress November 15, 2004 Austin, Texas The Earth is our home and its environment sustains life. We lament that today human society is using resources and creating waste on Earth at a rate that is destructive to the health of the planet and all life upon it. Extraction, production and consumption of energy and their resulting pollution constitute a large part of this problem. Renewable energy, energy effi ciency and conservation can solve many problems and are necessary elements for a sustainable future. Th e First Texas Clean Energy Congress envisions a Texas responsibly powered by its sustainable, renewable energy resource base. Texas shall serve as a model to others in economic opportunities, advanced technology, environmental justice, innovative government and respect for future generations. We can change our current practices in ways that build a sustainable energy future and that will create stronger communities, a healthier environment, and an economy that generates opportunity for all. WHEREAS we have a responsibility to current and future generations, WHEREAS the continued use of nuclear energy and of the limited supply of fossil fuels is adversely aff ecting our climate, environment, health and national security, WHEREAS current energy production and consumption patterns cause inequitable, unjust and disproportionate adverse impacts especially on communities and people least able to overcome them, WHEREAS the technologies of energy effi ciency and renewable energy are accessible and continue to advance, WHEREAS sustainable energy is one part of a holistic approach that encompasses many other strategies such as green building, recycling, responsible management of materials and existing fossil fuel resources, improved manufacturing processes, design for the environment, and energy effi cient transportation, WHEREAS Texas historically has demonstrated leadership in energy technologies and is uniquely positioned to extend that leadership into development of clean and sustainable technology and energy resources, WHEREAS Texas has the greatest resources in the United States for the development of renewable energy and energy effi ciency which are more than suffi cient to meet our current and future needs, And WHEREAS the natural environment of Texas is inherently good with its own value apart from its utility to people, BE IT RESOLVED THEREFORE, that this First Texas Clean Energy Congress calls for Texas to lead in this historic time, and for Texas to lead in the transition to sustainable energy as we advance humankind. We affirm that sustainable energy is energy that is reliable, clean and safe, and has positive impacts on the economy, society and the environment. We affirm that Texas energy production and use should contribute positively to the welfare of all creation. We affirm that Texas should reduce energy and resource consumption through conservation and energy effi ciency. We affirm that Texas should proactively plan for and provide a robust infrastructure to maximize the integration of sustainable energy. We affirm that Texas should produce and export clean energy and clean energy technologies. We affi rm that Texas should lead in the creation of a National Clean Energy Consortium to research, develop and deploy cost-eff ective sustainable energy for the electric, industrial, building, and transportation sectors. We call for Texas to create the appropriate policies, programs and business climate to meet the majority of its total energy needs with sustainable energy by the year 2020. We call for our leaders to embrace the future of sustainable energy and make Texas the leader in sustainable energy. We further endorse this Sustainable Energy Bill of Rights for all Texans. Sustainable Energy Bill Of Rights 1 All Texans have the right to live in a sustainable clean environment today and in the future. 2 All Texans have the right to be protected by energy effi ciency codes and educated about energy savings options for their homes and businesses. 3 All Texans have the right to participate in an open public process to determine how energy is produced in and for their communities. 4 All Texans have the right to purchase clean renewable energy from their electric provider at prices that are reasonable and just and nondiscriminatory. 5 All Texans have the right to produce sustainable energy for on-site use. 6 All Texans who produce renewable energy have the right to fair compensation for energy sold that refl ects the full value of that energy. 7 All Texans have the right to access a means of transportation that runs on sustainable fuels. 8 All Texans have the right to know the environmental impacts of their ways of life, including purchasing and energy consumption decisions. 9 All Texans have the right to enjoy the
[Biofuel] Neoteric Kits?
Anyone running a diesel on wvo using a neoteric kit? IÕm about to do the deal and trying to decide which way to go. Would love to talk to someone who has done one of these kits themselves. Dave ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
RE: [Biofuel] Powerdown
Peggy, I do not understand it is never to late, if you missed your train or bus, you were too late. It does not mean that you cannot take the next train or bus, or that you should maybe walk instead and take the opportunity to get exercise. Under all circumstances, you are likely to face some kind of consequences, whatever they are. I am not that concerned about the eventual consequences that US will face, since I live in EU and they seems to be a bit ahead on the issues and that is certainly worth to celebrate, as you suggest. Then, I can always move home to Sweden, who is way ahead of EU. The oil industry even officially complained about Sweden and came with some disguised threats about that the energy savings was going to far. LOL I do not think that Iraq is only a tremor and if it is, I am getting afraid of what tremors US will try next. It is only the beginning of many global tremors, like military threats and execution of them. It is not unthinkable that it could lead to a WWIII, since EU, Russia and China are more and more getting in an opposite interest situation to US. At least there are a lot of people that lost their confidence with US and they are dumping the dollar as fast as possible. By all financial definitions, this have led to that US is quite close to both financial and moral bankruptcy and is rapidly losing whatever capital they had before in the eyes of the world. I find it sad, when so many other people of nations, voice the opinion that US deserves it. The world is for sure changing, if you live outside US and can see it. Hakan At 04:32 PM 11/19/2004, you wrote: Hello Haken, It's never too late. There will always be solutions...however, the problems may compound before the masses agree to institute their personal self-discipline. The way of the future has to come from individuals rather than governments. Visualize tremors (as a possible mind-set) instead of upheavals, please. It's not us against the world--we are creating our own reality personally and collectively. Celebrating the good can do as much or more good than damning the bad. It feels good to feel good. Peggy H: snip My opinion is that it will not be possible to avoid significant upheavals, but there are many actions that can minimize the effects of them. It becomes a timing issue and we are already too late. Hakan ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] US factory farms exemption for pollution
Hallo Bob, Friday, 19 November, 2004, 11:33:46, you wrote: ba the following does not bode well for those of us in rural US: ba http://www.organicconsumers.org/Toxic/factory_farms.cfm ba Factory Farms Want Exemption from Air Pollution Laws ...snip... I am afraid that is not the half of it brother. I live in the southeastern Michigan/northwestern Ohio area. In a 20 mile radius there are at least 6 factory dairy farms with an average herd size of 2000 head of milking cattle. Each cow produces AT LEAST 40 pounds of manure per day which totals for ONE herd 29,200,000 pounds of manure per year which is generally spread on the earth. For some reason they seem to be Dutch owned in this area in the main, not that that makes any difference. A friend has a small farm which adjoins an 80 acre tract which one of these farms uses to dispose of its waste. There are times when the manure is some 4 deep and the stench is nigh unto unbearable. Nothing grows on that field. The upshot of this is that due to the high concentration of these farms in the area the pollutants in the manure are working their way into our water table. Concomittant with this is the loss of revenue by the small family farmer with small herds of, say, 100 head or less. Some dairies are refusing to pick up milk from these small farmers because they say it is unprofitable because they can get all the milk they need from the milk factories. This is disrupting families, the economy of the area and the environment of the entire region. The excuse for this abuse is the bottom line. This is the greater good our government speaks of apparently. If we consider that this is just one example in one contained and small region we have to wonder what else and where else similar actions are being done for the greater good of the monied class. What really mystifies me is how people like my brother can bring themselves to justify this. Apparently he has not read the fine print on the business cards of those in power which reads Bend over and let me introduce myself, or perhaps he and those like him simply enjoy being bent over. I suppose this is as close to angry as I have been in a while. This strikes so close to home. I have seen all too many good people lose their livlihood, their homes and farms, their dignity for the bottom line not to mention the absolutely horrendous adverse impact this is having on the environment. And we export this kind of thinking and infect others. Sorry for the rant. Happy Happy, Gustl -- Je mehr wir haben, desto mehr fordert Gott von uns. Mitglied-Team AMIGA ICQ: 22211253-Gustli The safest road to Hell is the gradual one - the gentle slope, soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, without signposts. C. S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters Es gibt Wahrheiten, die so sehr auf der Stra§e liegen, da§ sie gerade deshalb von der gewhnlichen Welt nicht gesehen oder wenigstens nicht erkannt werden. Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music. George Carlin The best portion of a good man's life - His little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and of love. William Wordsworth ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] US factory farms exemption for pollution
countries like India. I've heard of County Sewer Facilities and Landfills just flaring off the methane gas without even harnessing any of the heat content available to them for free. Another victim to government requirement maybe, i.e. EPA, CARB, and other crap like that. You can get a lot of gas from 2000 herd...and probably an equal amount of crap from the gov't. Late... JP From: Gustl Steiner-Zehender [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] US factory farms exemption for pollution Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:28:37 -0500 Hallo Bob, Friday, 19 November, 2004, 11:33:46, you wrote: ba the following does not bode well for those of us in rural US: ba http://www.organicconsumers.org/Toxic/factory_farms.cfm ba Factory Farms Want Exemption from Air Pollution Laws ...snip... I am afraid that is not the half of it brother. I live in the southeastern Michigan/northwestern Ohio area. In a 20 mile radius there are at least 6 factory dairy farms with an average herd size of 2000 head of milking cattle. Each cow produces AT LEAST 40 pounds of manure per day which totals for ONE herd 29,200,000 pounds of manure per year which is generally spread on the earth. For some reason they seem to be Dutch owned in this area in the main, not that that makes any difference. A friend has a small farm which adjoins an 80 acre tract which one of these farms uses to dispose of its waste. There are times when the manure is some 4 deep and the stench is nigh unto unbearable. Nothing grows on that field. The upshot of this is that due to the high concentration of these farms in the area the pollutants in the manure are working their way into our water table. Concomittant with this is the loss of revenue by the small family farmer with small herds of, say, 100 head or less. Some dairies are refusing to pick up milk from these small farmers because they say it is unprofitable because they can get all the milk they need from the milk factories. This is disrupting families, the economy of the area and the environment of the entire region. The excuse for this abuse is the bottom line. This is the greater good our government speaks of apparently. If we consider that this is just one example in one contained and small region we have to wonder what else and where else similar actions are being done for the greater good of the monied class. What really mystifies me is how people like my brother can bring themselves to justify this. Apparently he has not read the fine print on the business cards of those in power which reads Bend over and let me introduce myself, or perhaps he and those like him simply enjoy being bent over. I suppose this is as close to angry as I have been in a while. This strikes so close to home. I have seen all too many good people lose their livlihood, their homes and farms, their dignity for the bottom line not to mention the absolutely horrendous adverse impact this is having on the environment. And we export this kind of thinking and infect others. Sorry for the rant. Happy Happy, Gustl -- Je mehr wir haben, desto mehr fordert Gott von uns. Mitglied-Team AMIGA ICQ: 22211253-Gustli The safest road to Hell is the gradual one - the gentle slope, soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, without signposts. C. S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters Es gibt Wahrheiten, die so sehr auf der Stra§e liegen, da§ sie gerade deshalb von der gewhnlichen Welt nicht gesehen oder wenigstens nicht erkannt werden. Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music. George Carlin The best portion of a good man's life - His little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and of love. William Wordsworth ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
RE: [Biofuel] Texas Declaratin of Energy Independance
Thank you Mel for the post and for participating in the Congress. Peggy Subject: [Biofuel] Texas Declaratin of Energy Independance The Texas Renewable Energy Industries Association http://www.treia.org had it's 20th annual meeting this past week and we also had the First Texas Renewable Energy Congress. Delegates were asked to draft a Declaration of Energy Independence. I was a delegate and helped massage some of the language and was also a signer. I have attached it as a PDF because it's prints out beautifully, But will also try and post just the words. mel ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] best processor for campus co-op?
mix?? Are there any significant differences in performance??? Can you do the same with a 60-40 mix with Biodiesel?? Please do tell... JP From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] best processor for campus co-op? Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 11:07:27 EST why don't you folks look at filtration systems yes they cost a couple of dollars..it is 2004 and not 1966 if we can afford a diesel motor, lets spend a couple of dollars, remember the oil free,lets not beat ourselves up to refine it i run 81 rabbit everyday on 60 -40 mix 60 being waste oil 40 diesel fuel anybody filtering out there? ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Food Was The Secret Election Weapon
Food Was The Secret Election Weapon U.S.ELECTION/04 By Wayne Roberts (adapted from NOW Magazine, November 11-17, 2004) The punditi say that the secret of the U.S. election - some secret - is that a burning bush of otherworldly evangelical religion and bigotry triumphed over rest-of-the-worldly urban cosmopolitanism and yuppiness. Though my editor will pull her hair out to see my food obsession go to these lengths, I will try to show that the real secret -- as in, hidden in plain sight, like the food in the refrigerator that men can never see -- of the U.S. election is that bread and butter matters, specifically agricultural and food matters, defined the key issues and divisions. God, gays, guns and grizzlies, said to be the issues that brought out the vote for president Bush in the hinterland, coalesced as interlocked issues and values because of underlying habits of the North American food system. Lest anyone think such trends are exclusive to the U.S., the same habits may well account for Conservative voting strength that is mostly limited to dispossessed rural areas of Ontario and western Canada. I don't want to challenge the greatest of all U.S. pundits, H.L. Mencken, who predicted some 75 years ago that because the U.S. president was elected to express the inner soul of the people, on some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron. However, we need to understand that voters in the U.S. southern Bible Belt and Midwest Heartland that won the election for Bush have had their faith in the godliness of the White House deepened by seeing In God We Trust engraved on 90 billion dollars worth of Bush Republican Farm Bill subsidies flowing through their area, paid for from the taxes of the heathens who inhabit the Democratic strongholds along the east and west coasts. Such rural areas account for about 55 million voters living on 80 per cent of the land mass of the U.S. Voting and lifestyle habits in these areas confirm the wisdom of agricultural analysts who refer to one-crop farming - of cotton, wheat, corn and the like - as monoculture. Single-minded they may be, but their votes are almost double-counted, partly because under-populated states (i.e. states, mainly in the Bible Belt and Heartland, that are dominated by capital-intensive, people-less monoculture) elect two senators, just like New York and California, partly because these states get an automatic base vote in the electoral college system regardless of their population, and partly because rural voters who own more than three guns vote overwhelmingly (about 83 per cent) for Republicans, and don't cancel out each others' votes, as is common among more diverse urban voters. Except for paradigm blindness - as in, I can't see the milk in the fridge, honey - the defining political role of food systems is as American as apple pie. The budget for the US department of agriculture is second only to the military, and the role of the agri-military complex has always been more important to U.S. foreign policy than the stereotyped military-industrial complex. Take a refresher course in American history, and check out the aggressive and expansionist agricultural drive behind the French and Indian Wars of the 1750s and '60s, the Boston tea party that kicked off the American Revolution, the War of 1812, the war against Mexico that brought in Texas and California in the 1850s, the extermination of the buffalo and the war against Aboriginal peoples during the 1860s and 1870s, not to mention the Civil War between slavery-based King Cotton and grain-based Free Soil of the 1860s. Remember the Alamo and the war to spread slavery and cotton, and forget about blaming militarism on an industrial complex, a prejudice that only confirms the cultural headlock of Bible Belt and Heartland agrarianism. Food and ag isues have long dominated US folkways and sense of masculinity. It was Yankee Doodle Dandy, and not John Kerry, who was first typecast as an aristocratic north-eastern effeminate male with a feather in his cap because he was so keen for pasta (macaroni was then the fave food of the rich). Not to mention male fantasy icon, The Cowboy, inspiration for George W's speaking and diplomatic style. Many medium-sized mid-western and southern cities would vanish and their hinterlands become socially unsustainable except for the fact that their economies survive on land grant universities, another enduring expression of the U.S. agricultural heritage and its ability to funnel money to support people-less but expansionist agribusiness. One-crop agriculture was also central to slavery, dominant through the U.S. South until 150 years ago, as well as segregation and sharecrop farming, in force until 40 years ago. Most tragically, ultra-conservative social and cultural politics have
Re: [Biofuel] best processor for campus co-op?
why don't you folks look at filtration systems yes they cost a couple of dollars..it is 2004 and not 1966 What's that supposed to mean? if we can afford a diesel motor, lets spend a couple of dollars, remember the oil free,lets not beat ourselves up to refine it i run 81 rabbit everyday on 60 -40 mix 60 being waste oil 40 diesel fuel Real pity about the 40 eh? Though last time you said it was 50-50. Also last time you had some responses, which you've so far ignored. Please tend to them: http://wwia.org/pipermail/biofuel/Week-of-Mon-20041115/thread.html#2998 Keith Addison List owner anybody filtering out there? ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
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Peggy, excellent words. I couldn't have said it better myself. Jonathan Schearer. Peggy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Well DB, now that you have your target, we could set up awareness and educational programs in the churches. They could sell biodiesel by the gallon as fundraisers. Grease the Palm could be the motto with glistening palm leaves dripping with veggie oil. Actually, they could start collection centers for all their spent oil and have fundraisers to Clean for Christ and make the earth a better place for all. (My apologies for this tongue-in-cheek message to my Christian friends whose devout understanding is a model for excellent qualities to emulate. The bigoted ones will roast in their beliefs anyway.) Next problem? Best wishes, Peggy Subject: [Biofuel] the next president of the Nation Devided. So the Demorats put out their best man ,but he was beat out by the millions of Jesus Freakos Who haven't a clue of what the hell Biodiesel even is.So now we have to suffer through 4 more years of reality as expressed through the George the Weasel Bush Machine.I think not enough Environmental Damage has stirred the sleeping masses. Maybe the next presidential candidate will be more pro environmental.Personally I think the religious right is a very big problem to over comeDB ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ - Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! Get yours free! ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Claiming the high ground on fuel economy
Hi, guys, Today, a diesel car claimed the high ground on fuel economy. I posted an ad in ebay, claiming to have the highest fuel-economy car in America. Mileage claimed: 59 mpg winter / 65 mpg summer (highway, 63.5 mph true speed) (For 4-passenger cars, I can't beat the littler cars. And, you know I can't win in city driving.) Car: VW New Beetle TDI diesel, with proprietary drag reducer. A few may mumble about it being a diesel, but they should remember that this car is one of the few cars in America able to run on completely renewable fuel. If you want to see the ad, search fuel economy in the ebay motors section. Please feel free to reply with complaints or to challenge me to a fuel economy race. Ernie Rogers ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
