Re: [Biofuel] 271 Diesel Generators

2005-04-05 Thread Thomas Mountain

The 71 series detroit diesels have long been an industry standard. they are
a higher rpm engine and widely used in fishing boats for their speed. they
are a two cycle engine with a blower and are not quite as rugged as some of
the other diesels, ie, more easily damaged by overheating, more prone to
cracked heads, , and are famous for being leakers, leaking oil, and
require a bit more tuning to keep running at top efficiency, mainly keeping
the rack adjusted. In two cylinder engines, 2-71's or 2-53's refering to
the individual volume in cubic inches of the combustion chamber this
shouldnt be to much of a problem. I dont know how their rubber parts are
affected by biodiesel, but they are a good engine and have been around for
ever, pre WW2 if I remember correctly. They arent going to meet any modern
pollution control standards, which is probably why they were sold off. They
dont have the bottom end, loads of torque, at slower speeds, but , this isnt
a problem with generators.

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 Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 08:23:41 -0700
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 Subject: [Biofuel] 271 Diesel Generators
 
 I have found a source for 20Kw General Motors 271 that have come off of Union
 Pacific Railroad cars.  The hours are unkown, but is assumed that they were
 well taken care of as they refrigerated railroad cars.  They are all tested
 and painted.   Apperently someone bought 2300 of them, and is selling them for
 a few grand.  Is this a desirable motor for biofuel or in general, can someone
 who is running them testify to their value- even if you don't know the hours.
 Rebuild is reported to be very easy, full rebuild kits with pistons cost 400.
 Thanks for any respones.
 
 Jeremy
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Re: [Biofuel] SAFETY REQUEST

2005-04-05 Thread Quimica Nova SA


First, please, obtain the MSDS, material safety data sheets of both: 
methanol and caustic soda (potassium hydroxide too).


For the electrical installation, at any industrial level, apply explosion 
proof installation, equipment and materials.


Local: good ventilation.
With methanol not necessary to use explosimeters.
In general use gloves, sight glasses or plastic face cover, safety hat , 
long sleeves.
Do not inhalate methanol from bottles, drums, etc. Neither the methoxide. 
Not even after the estherification reaction.

Strictly follow the safety guidelines of the MSDS.
There might be other comments from experimented bio-dieselers.
Best regards.
Marcelino

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Hey All,

As Im sure most biodiesel makers know and are interested in...

I want to do this SAFE!!!

Methanol and Lye are Nasty, what can I do to be safe with them, do I need 
an LEL meter or a mask?


Electrical/Fire safety is always big too.

Does anyone have any suggestions or stories on how they make there 
biodiesel safetly.


much thanks

Evan J. Franklin
Deputy Chief, Unity Search  Rescue,
The Franklin Biodiesel Project,
Dispatcher, Operation Game Thief,
Unity College, Unity Maine

42 Murdoc Drive
U.C. Box 650
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  In search of answers to the following:





  In the US, does a co-op structure for a bioD producer exempt it from
  reg= istering with the EPA as a fuel manufacturer?





  Corrolary: Can a fleet operator be a co-op member, and not be subject
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RE: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come(Finally an eye is opening)

2005-04-05 Thread Klaus Sperlich

This is great ... finally we are making sense. The WMD is not the issue.
This is what I have said all along. People miss the big picture. Suddam
Hussein was the weapon of mass destruction. 100% agreed.
KS

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Hakan,
 I would like to give a humble option here,
 ( Hakan wrote;...Criminal, established by the fact that we now know  that
Iraq were no WMD threat to US. )
We took out Hitler for the same reason, Him and Suddam Hussein were weapons
of mass destruction.
H.



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 Bob,

 You were right and I am wrong and I am glad that I did get
 a very good explanation on how Hubbert could be so right.

 It also explains why president Carter was so genuinely
 worried, when he developed his energy plan. He had the
 foresight to realize that Hubbert was right.

 It also explains why we see the surge in the genuine hate
 of Americans. It is the cost of aggressive and egoistic foreign
 policies, that resulted in about 10 more years of artificially
 low oil prices.

 All of this, ending up in an almost criminal behavior by the
 Bush administration. I say almost, because I do not want
 to be too crude. The legal aspect of being criminal, is very
 clearly established, Criminal, established by the fact that we
 now know  that Iraq were no WMD threat to US. By laying
 the responsibility at the feet of faulty US intelligence
 community, the Bush administration is trying deliberately
 to avoid their  legal responsibility. A kind of reversed side
 of the well known argument  it was not my fault, I was
 ordered to do it. LOL

 All of this supported by the America people, in a reelection
 of president Bush. I hear the false argument that  only 48%
 voted him in office. This argument is poor mathematics, I
 cannot get to this result, when Bush won with a more than
 3 million of the populous American vote. It was the first
 election of Bush, that he did not have a populous majority
 and he was put in office by the Courts.

 Hakan


 At 11:16 PM 3/31/2005, you wrote:
All I know is what I read in the brief biography.  (and what I recall from
hearing about his work many years ago)

Hakan Falk wrote:
Bob,
I stand corrected and the only excuse I have, is that I only brought
forward a mistake that I read earlier. I remember that it was an article
about the hearings in US congress in mid 70'. Will however not do this
mistake again, but do not despair, there are many others I will do and
surely in my far from perfect English. -:)
What was his field at Berkeley?
Hakan

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Re: [Biofuel] 271 Diesel Generators

2005-04-05 Thread Busyditch

Here is my two cents: The Detroit Diesel 71 (and 92)series is a somewhat
antiquated two-stroke design. The engines come in various straight
configurations from 2-71 all the way to 6-71 and 8-71's, as well as
8V71's.(those stinky noisy bus engines)   or modularized into huge 12V's and
16V's for generators or saw mills. The number 71, .  (and 92)denotes cubic
inches per cylinder, so a 6-71 is 427 cubic inches. They all utilize a
supercharger (popular among early hot rodders)  in order to move the spent
exhaust gasses from the cylinder and allow a fresh charge of air in for
combustion.(there are no conventional intake or exhaust valve, just an
exhaust port at the bottom of the piston stroke in the cylinder wall.) Be
forewarned- these engines are extremely noisy and also produce an inordinate
amount of smoke, they are on the EPA hit list and are no longer available as
truck engines in this country due to their poor pollution stats. These
regulations dont apply to stationary power plants so new engines are being
built for this purpose only. I guess the same caution applies as all other
diesel engines- certain rubber parts in the fuel pump  or injector pump may
be subject to failure when coming into contact with Biodiesel, so be
careful.Also, when calculationg in the cost of a rebuild, include a
supercharger rebuild kit, the blower has screw type vane rotors with long
seals on the edges. I would love to have one as an auxiliary supply for my
weekend house, so please post a source for them. I saw a similar genset on
ebay with a 3-71 , may be the same folks. Thanks to you all
john

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 disengage lurker mode

 Count me in too!   Do you have a link or contact info?

 engage lurker mode

 ROY Washbish wrote:

 Jeremy
 If this turns out to be good I sure am interested in buying one.
 23 KW DIESEL is just what I'm looking for.
 Thanks
 Roy
 
 Jeremy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have found a source for 20Kw General Motors 271 that have come off of
Union Pacific Railroad cars. The hours are unkown, but is assumed that they
were well taken care of as they refrigerated railroad cars. They are all
tested and painted. Apperently someone bought 2300 of them, and is selling
them for a few grand. Is this a desirable motor for biofuel or in general,
can someone who is running them testify to their value- even if you don't
know the hours. Rebuild is reported to be very easy, full rebuild kits with
pistons cost 400. Thanks for any respones.
 
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Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come

2005-04-05 Thread Hakan Falk


Rick,

I would never want to play down the logistical support from US, it was 
absolutely crucial for the outcome of WWII. Regardless the later commercial 
and economical benefits for US. I will never try to play down the 
importance of the Marshal plan from US, which was a more intelligent way of 
dealing with peace and post war activities. The Peace in Versailles after 
WWI, became a precursor  of WWII and an example of that human stupidity 
knows no boundaries.


US benefited enormously from WWII and being the OPEC of that time. It 
resulted in the start of the era of very strong global corporations with a 
very strong Jewish influence at the time. This was exactly what the German 
industrialists wanted to stop, by supporting Hitler in his quest for power, 
and that was one of the major reasons that led to WWII.


It takes about 100 years before history start to be honest, realistic and 
less emotional, if it ever can be. The different groups of religions are 
proof of that propaganda and emotions, can continue for thousands of years.


Hakan


At 12:18 AM 4/4/2005, you wrote:


Dear Hakan,

You are, of course, correct as far as the fighting in Europe.  The Soviet 
Union fielded some 540 divisions to the German 250+ and the US 87.   By 
the time of the Normandy invasion Germany had lost.  The critical battles 
of the war were arguably Stalingrad, Kursk, Karkov, and perhaps 
Voronezh.  However, the US participation did likely prevent the Red Army 
from over running the the entire continent. And then there is the matter 
of the atom bomb.  While its development involved mostly Europeans who 
fled to the US it was in the US that is was developed and for a time made 
Western Europe and the US the preeminent world power.
Also it would be a mistake to down play the logistical support of the US 
to Europe which included the reduction of the U boat threat in 1943 and 
the support of the North African invasion.

Rick



Dear Henri and Rick,

I only like to put this we took out Hitler to rest. That the Americans 
single handed took out Hitler, is a myth that only exists in Hollywood movies.


The crucial material support from US in WWII was the deliveries of war 
material. The US infantry troop participation in Europe was on a low 
level and not crucial. By only look at the loss of soldiers, you 
understand clearly who was doing the major fighting.


Russia  6,000,000 troop causalities
Europe Alliance600,000
USA  60,000

Germany was very advanced and introduced for the first time the modern 
warfare and materials, with a massive air support. They tested much of it 
in the Spanish civil war.


US took out Japan, not on the ground, but with Hiroshima and Nagasaki. 
This at a time when the European part of WWII was at its end.


I do agree that the US propaganda methods was/is superior. Something that 
Hitler and his administration several times acknowledged and copied. This 
superiority is maintained even today.


Hakan






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Re: [OFF TOPIC] Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come

2005-04-05 Thread bmolloy

Hello Hakan,
 Again with respect, it is not well known that the
Pacific losses in WW2 were greater than in Europe. If that is the case I'd
like to see your source for the statement. MacArthur was supreme commander
in the Pacfic. I have given you his total losses throughout his campaign
which ranged all the way from his starting point in Australia to the moment
he accepted the Japanese surrender in Tokyo Bay. I based these on figures
given my William Manchester, one of the most respected American biographers
of the postwar period. The precise wording of his  footnote, on page 639 of
the 1979 Hutchinson paperback edition American Caesar - Douglas MacArthur,
reads American casualties in the Bulge were 106,502. MacArthur's 90,437.
The item to which this footnote refers reads: The Battle of the Bulge (a
four week break-out by German armoured columns under General Von Rundsted in
the Ardennes beginning December 16, 1944, and ending January 16, 1945)
...resulted in as many American casualties as were sustained in th entire
Southwest Pacfic area campaign from Australia to Tokyo.
To look at a couple of single battles in Europe. At the battle of Anzio in
Italy, where the Allies fought for nearly four months (January 22 to May 25,
1943) to secure a beachhead that placed them only 37 miles from Rome, the
total American, i.e. not Allied, casualties were 72,306 GIs. In the battle
of Normandy - June 6 to July 31, 1944 - Eisenhower lost 28,366 GIs.
The bottom line is that American losses in Europe were many, many times
those in the Pacific.
Please don't tell me that these figures are no indication. They are exact
battlefield totals. I have given your chapter and verse for my sources. If
you have figures to the contrary I would be very pleased to hear them, and
of course the source.
Regards,
Bob.

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 Bob,

 Even those numbers are sub number and does not say anything. It is
 possible that my source was wrong, but do not give me number who
 says nothing to that effect. If my source is right and US losses were
 10% of allies total, around 10,000 US soldiers died in the Battle of
 Bulge. It is also something wrong with that US should have lost
 around 100,000 in Pacific and around 300,000 in Europe. When it is
 well known fact that the Pacific losses were higher than the European.

 Please try again and maybe you will find something more realistic.

 Hakan


 At 01:55 AM 4/4/2005, you wrote:
 Hello Hakan,
 
 (snip)
 
 
   The number you give is WWII losses, I was talking about the
   European part of WWII. This because we talked about taking
   out Hitler. US lost several times more in the Pacific, than they
   did in Europe.
 
With respect, the total allied losses under General
 MacArthur - Supreme Commander of the Pacific theatre of operation - in
the
 entire campaign fought from Australia to his arrival in Tokyo were
90,437.
 In the Battle of the Bulge in France in 1944 - which was just a single
 battle fought over a few weeks during the Second Front campaign - a total
of
 106,502 allied soldiers died. (See: American Caesar: Douglas MacArthur,
by
 William Manchester. Hutchinson 1979, page 639).
 
 Regards,
 Bob.


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Re: [Biofuel] Using E85 in a standard 1996 E150

2005-04-05 Thread MH

 Something that would concern me would be
 a leaner running engine with the additional
 oxygen content in ethanol in a E85 gasoline
 blend being used in a fuel injection management
 system not designed for the much higher oxygen content 
 and I can't say for sure but premature engine wear
 might be the result. 


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 I was in Duluth, MN this weekend and decided to experiment.
 
 I have been using E10 for years in all of my gasoline engines,
 large and small, without any problems, so Saturday when I saw
 E85 offered at one location at $0.55 per gallon less than
 gasoline I put in 10 gallons on top of the 10 gallons of E10
 that I had in the tank.
 
 I drove all around town, on the highway, and up and down the
 steep hills of Duluth. No problems. So today when it was
 time to head home, I filled up with E85 (22 more gallons).
 
 I drove 105 miles, all at highway speed, without any
 performance problems. The Check Engine light came on
 at around 70 miles, but no drivability problems were detected.
 
 I suspect the Check Engine light is indicating a lean mixture
 due to the oxygen rich nature of ethanol, and therefore is
 simply out the calibration range the computer expects.
 
 I am confident the fuel system is ethanol compatible because
 Ford has been authorizing E10 for years. Can anyone suggest
 a reason not to continue using E85 in this vehicle?
 
 Thank you.
 
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Re: [Biofuel] 271 Diesel Generators

2005-04-05 Thread AntiFossil

I would also like one. Please let us know how to make contact with supplier. 
Thanks.
Antifossil

On Apr 4, 2005 8:12 PM, Busyditch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Here is my two cents: The Detroit Diesel 71 (and 92)series is a somewhat
 antiquated two-stroke design. The engines come in various straight
 configurations from 2-71 all the way to 6-71 and 8-71's, as well as
 8V71's.(those stinky noisy bus engines) or modularized into huge 12V's and
 16V's for generators or saw mills. The number 71, . (and 92)denotes cubic
 inches per cylinder, so a 6-71 is 427 cubic inches. They all utilize a
 supercharger (popular among early hot rodders) in order to move the spent
 exhaust gasses from the cylinder and allow a fresh charge of air in for
 combustion.(there are no conventional intake or exhaust valve, just an
 exhaust port at the bottom of the piston stroke in the cylinder wall.) Be
 forewarned- these engines are extremely noisy and also produce an 
 inordinate
 amount of smoke, they are on the EPA hit list and are no longer available 
 as
 truck engines in this country due to their poor pollution stats. These
 regulations dont apply to stationary power plants so new engines are being
 built for this purpose only. I guess the same caution applies as all other
 diesel engines- certain rubber parts in the fuel pump or injector pump may
 be subject to failure when coming into contact with Biodiesel, so be
 careful.Also, when calculationg in the cost of a rebuild, include a
 supercharger rebuild kit, the blower has screw type vane rotors with long
 seals on the edges. I would love to have one as an auxiliary supply for my
 weekend house, so please post a source for them. I saw a similar genset on
 ebay with a 3-71 , may be the same folks. Thanks to you all
 john
 
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 Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 4:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] 271 Diesel Generators
 
  disengage lurker mode
 
  Count me in too! Do you have a link or contact info?
 
  engage lurker mode
 
  ROY Washbish wrote:
 
  Jeremy
  If this turns out to be good I sure am interested in buying one.
  23 KW DIESEL is just what I'm looking for.
  Thanks
  Roy
  
  Jeremy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have found a source for 20Kw General Motors 271 that have come off of
 Union Pacific Railroad cars. The hours are unkown, but is assumed that 
 they
 were well taken care of as they refrigerated railroad cars. They are all
 tested and painted. Apperently someone bought 2300 of them, and is selling
 them for a few grand. Is this a desirable motor for biofuel or in general,
 can someone who is running them testify to their value- even if you don't
 know the hours. Rebuild is reported to be very easy, full rebuild kits 
 with
 pistons cost 400. Thanks for any respones.
  
  Jeremy
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Re: [Biofuel] taking out Saddam

2005-04-05 Thread Darryl McMahon

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 Hallo Kids,
 
 Better start thinking neocons and giving biblical prophecy
 a helping hand.  A lot more there than meets the eye.
  Nasty business.  Takes some digging and some understanding
 of fundamental Christianity.  Rational to them but very,
 very scary.
 
 Happy Happy,
 
 Gustl
 
Gustl, leave us some room for at least one of my pet theories.

1) Oil multi-nationals wanted control of the Iraqi oilfields.  Couldn't leave 
the 
graft and corruption to UN officials - that's a private sector area of 
expertise.

2) U.S. needed a new theatre to try some new Pentagon toys.

3) Saddam was lobbying to sell Iraqi oil (under U.N. program or otherwise) in 
Euros 
instead of U.S. $, threatening the strength of the greenback.

4) Saddam tried to kill George W.'s daddy.

 
 On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:28:13 -0500
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  Darryl wrote:
  
  Clearly, taking out Saddam had nothing to do with
  weapons of mass destruction 
  (the U.N. inspectors had all but proven he had none
  before the U.S. found the 
  courage to invade), or 9/11 (the plans were in play in
  the U.S. Administration 
  *before* the planes hit the towers).  It was not about
  getting the oil, as it 
  was 
  available for sale on the world market prior to the
  invasion.  It wasn't about 
  Iraq 
  as a military threat in the region - the U.S. and U.K.
  were flying military and 
  surveillance over the country *daily* prior to the
  invasion.  It wasn't about 
  Al-
  Qaeda - they despised Saddam.  Hussein did not attack or
  threaten the U.S.
  
  So, Henri, in your opinion, why had the Bush White House
  really decided to 
  invade 
  Iraq - prior to 9/11?
  
  
  Could it be because the UN sanctions were failing and
  about to be lifted? The US was not about to allow the
  Saddam administration to get $10+ Billion in oil revenue
  each year knowing they would use it to resume their
  weapons programs. 
  
  No, they did not have weapons of mass destruction yet,
  but they did have the know how and planned to build them
  ASAP once the sanctions were lifted.
  
  Mike
  
  
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Re: [Biofuel] taking out Saddam

2005-04-05 Thread Darryl McMahon

[EMAIL PROTECTED] responded:

 Darryl wrote:
 
 Clearly, taking out Saddam had nothing to do with weapons of mass 
 destruction
 (the U.N. inspectors had all but proven he had none before the U.S. found the
 courage to invade), or 9/11 (the plans were in play in the U.S. Administration
 *before* the planes hit the towers).  It was not about getting the oil, as it 
 was
 available for sale on the world market prior to the invasion.  It wasn't 
 about Iraq
 as a military threat in the region - the U.S. and U.K. were flying military 
 and
 surveillance over the country *daily* prior to the invasion.  It wasn't about 
 Al-
 Qaeda - they despised Saddam.  Hussein did not attack or threaten the U.S.
 
 So, Henri, in your opinion, why had the Bush White House really decided to 
 invade 
 Iraq - prior to 9/11?
 
 
 Could it be because the UN sanctions were failing and about to be lifted? The 
 US was
 not about to allow the Saddam administration to get $10+ Billion in oil 
 revenue each
 year knowing they would use it to resume their weapons programs. 

What is your basis for determining the UN sanctions were failing?  UN 
inspectors 
were back in Iraq prior to the U.S. decision to invade.  There is no indication 
that Iraq had managed to re-arm to any appreciable extent during the period the 
sanctions were in place.  If they had, the U.S. led invasion would have 
encountered 
a lot more resistance.

 
 No, they did not have weapons of mass destruction yet, but they did have the 
 know
 how and planned to build them ASAP once the sanctions were lifted.

However, rogue nations like North Korea that openly acknowledge having WMDs 
somehow don't warrant military action by the U.S.
 
 Mike
 


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Re: [OFF TOPIC] Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come

2005-04-05 Thread Hakan Falk


Bob,

I have to make a variant of a famous statement by saying,
If the numbers do not fit, you have to quit
LOL

Hakan


At 03:35 AM 4/5/2005, you wrote:

Hello Hakan,
 Again with respect, it is not well known that the
Pacific losses in WW2 were greater than in Europe. If that is the case I'd
like to see your source for the statement. MacArthur was supreme commander
in the Pacfic. I have given you his total losses throughout his campaign
which ranged all the way from his starting point in Australia to the moment
he accepted the Japanese surrender in Tokyo Bay. I based these on figures
given my William Manchester, one of the most respected American biographers
of the postwar period. The precise wording of his  footnote, on page 639 of
the 1979 Hutchinson paperback edition American Caesar - Douglas MacArthur,
reads American casualties in the Bulge were 106,502. MacArthur's 90,437.
The item to which this footnote refers reads: The Battle of the Bulge (a
four week break-out by German armoured columns under General Von Rundsted in
the Ardennes beginning December 16, 1944, and ending January 16, 1945)
...resulted in as many American casualties as were sustained in th entire
Southwest Pacfic area campaign from Australia to Tokyo.
To look at a couple of single battles in Europe. At the battle of Anzio in
Italy, where the Allies fought for nearly four months (January 22 to May 25,
1943) to secure a beachhead that placed them only 37 miles from Rome, the
total American, i.e. not Allied, casualties were 72,306 GIs. In the battle
of Normandy - June 6 to July 31, 1944 - Eisenhower lost 28,366 GIs.
The bottom line is that American losses in Europe were many, many times
those in the Pacific.
Please don't tell me that these figures are no indication. They are exact
battlefield totals. I have given your chapter and verse for my sources. If
you have figures to the contrary I would be very pleased to hear them, and
of course the source.
Regards,
Bob.

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 Bob,

 Even those numbers are sub number and does not say anything. It is
 possible that my source was wrong, but do not give me number who
 says nothing to that effect. If my source is right and US losses were
 10% of allies total, around 10,000 US soldiers died in the Battle of
 Bulge. It is also something wrong with that US should have lost
 around 100,000 in Pacific and around 300,000 in Europe. When it is
 well known fact that the Pacific losses were higher than the European.

 Please try again and maybe you will find something more realistic.

 Hakan


 At 01:55 AM 4/4/2005, you wrote:
 Hello Hakan,
 
 (snip)
 
 
   The number you give is WWII losses, I was talking about the
   European part of WWII. This because we talked about taking
   out Hitler. US lost several times more in the Pacific, than they
   did in Europe.
 
With respect, the total allied losses under General
 MacArthur - Supreme Commander of the Pacific theatre of operation - in
the
 entire campaign fought from Australia to his arrival in Tokyo were
90,437.
 In the Battle of the Bulge in France in 1944 - which was just a single
 battle fought over a few weeks during the Second Front campaign - a total
of
 106,502 allied soldiers died. (See: American Caesar: Douglas MacArthur,
by
 William Manchester. Hutchinson 1979, page 639).
 
 Regards,
 Bob.


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[Biofuel] Iraq Invasion - Age of Oil Scarcity

2005-04-05 Thread MH

 Iraq Invasion May Be Remembered as
 Start of the Age of Oil Scarcity 
 By Robert Collier
 San Francisco Chronicle 
 Sunday 20 March 2005 
 http://www.truthout.org/issues_05/032105EA.shtml

 Production tumbles in post-Hussein era as
 more countries vie for shrinking supplies

 Instead of inaugurating a new age of cheap oil,
 the Iraq war may become known as
 the beginning of an era of scarcity. 

 Two years ago, it seemed likely that Iraq,
 with the world's third-largest petroleum reserves,
 would become a hypercharged gusher once U.S. troops
 toppled Saddam Hussein. But chaos and guerrilla sabotage
 have slowed the flow of oil to a comparative trickle. 

 The price of crude on global markets hit an
 all-time record Friday, and oil experts say
 U.S. consumers are likely to keep feeling the pinch. 

 Global supply hasn't kept up, and it isn't likely to
 in the near future, and one of the causes is Iraq,
 said John Lichtblau, chairman of the
 Petroleum Industry Research Foundation in New York. 

 The war coincided with the start of a sharp rise in
 oil imports by booming China and India, and experts say
 this alignment of factors may keep prices permanently high. 

 Iraq's oil production averaged about 3 million barrels a day
 before the war and now lags below 2 million, while
 prewar projections had pegged production to have hit at
 least 4 million by now. This missing production would have
 covered much of the annual growth in global oil demand,
 which is expected to increase by
 1.8 million barrels a day this year,
 to 84.3 million barrels. 

 If it weren't for the insurgency, Iraq would produce
 at least another million barrels day -- and maybe two,
 said Gal Luft, co-director of the
 Institute for the Analysis of Global Security in Washington.
 Iraq is very much missing from the market, and
 it's one of the reasons why prices have risen so much. 

 Iraq has earned only about $31 billion from oil exports
 in the two years since the U.S. invasion, far below the
 prewar predictions by Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz,
 who claimed that Iraqi oil would generate
 $50 billion to $100 billion in the same period. 

 Foreign oil companies have withdrawn
 almost all their staff from Iraq because of the dangers.
 The risk to operate there is a very serious risk, and
 it's not about to go away, Lichtblau said. People are
 killed and kidnapped, and those pipelines are being
 blown up a week after they're repaired, again and again. 

 The companies are keeping their feet in the door.
 About 20 firms have provided free services to Iraq
 -- training for oil personnel, geological studies
 or other help -- as a way to maintain
 good contacts until things improve. 

 To make matters worse, there are few
 new sources of oil elsewhere.
 Russia is embroiled in the government
 confiscation of its biggest oil producer, Yukos;
 Nigeria's biggest oil region is riven by social conflict;
 Venezuela is in a worsening dispute with Washington; and the
 Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries has
 no extra capacity to pump more crude. 

 More and more people are realizing
 that the real story of Iraq, and more generally after 9/11,
 is our vulnerability as a nation to our dependence on
 imported foreign oil, said Frank Gaffney, president of
 the Center for Security Policy in Washington. 

 The problem is access. Where do you go to find oil
 you do need to replace what you're producing?
 There aren't many alternatives, said Robert Ebel,
 director of the energy program at the
 Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington.
 And most countries have government oil companies
 -- they keep it for themselves, so you can't get in. 

 All these factors may be causing a sea change in attitudes
 among American politicians, some analysts say. 

 Fast-rising energy prices helped the Bush administration
 rally votes in Congress for its proposal to open the
 Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to oil and gas drilling.
 That proposal squeezed out a victory by a two-vote margin
 in the Senate last week.
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[Biofuel] US energy insanity

2005-04-05 Thread MH

 Energy Insanity 
 By Molly Ivins 
 AlterNet 
 Tuesday 29 March 2005 
 http://www.truthout.org/issues_05/033105EC.shtml 

 In the long history of monumentally bad ideas,
 the Cheney energy policy is a standout
 for reasons of both omission and commission.
 Dumb, dumber and dumbest. 

 As a general rule about Bush  Co.,
 the more closely a policy is associated with Dick Cheney,
 the worse it is. Which brings us to energy policy
 - remember his secret task force? In the long history of
 monumentally bad ideas, the Cheney policy is a standout for
 reasons of both omission and commission. Dumb, dumber and dumbest. 

 Ponder this: Next year, the administration
 will phase out the $2,000 tax credit for buying a hybrid vehicle,
 which gets over 50 miles per gallon, but
 will leave in place the $25,000 tax write-off for a Hummer,
 which gets 10-12 mpg.
 That's truly crazy, and
 that's truly what the whole Cheney energy policy is. 

 According to the Energy Information Administration in
 the Department of Energy, last year's energy bill (same as
 this one) would cost taxpayers at least $31 billion,
 do nothing about the projected over-80 percent increase in
 America's imports of foreign oil by 2025, and
 increase gasoline prices. (Since every bureaucrat who
 tells the truth in this administration - about the
 cost of the drug bill or the safety of Vioxx - seems to
 get the ax, I'm probably getting those folks in trouble.) 

 The bill is loaded with corporate giveaways and
 tax breaks for big oil. Meanwhile, Bush's budget
 cuts funding for renewable energy research and programs,
 and anyone who tells you different is lying. 

 Now, here's the Catch-22 we get with this administration:
 It is using the exact language of the bill's critics -
 stealing it wholesale and using it to promote its bill.
 It's our friend Frank Luntz, the Republican pollster who
 specializes in framing issues (framing means the
 same thing as spinning, and in the non-political world
 it is known as lying), at work again. Luntz put out a memo
 in January: Eight Energy Communication Guidelines for 2005
 telling R's how to talk about energy using language people like. 

 The Natural Resources Defense Council found a Bush speech on
 energy on March 9 in Ohio that parrots Luntz's suggestions
 to a laughable point - threat to national security,
 diversity of supply, innovation, conservation and (my fave)
 Point 4, The key principle is 'responsible energy exploration.'
 And remember, it's NOT drilling for oil. It's
 responsible energy exploration. 

 So there was Bush, as per Luntz's memo, talking about
 environmentally responsible exploration and announcing
 one of his top energy objectives is to diversify our
 energy supply by developing alternative sources of energy.
 Polling shows 70 percent of Americans support a
 drastic increase in government spending on
 renewable energy sources. 

 I'm tired of arguing about whether Bush is so ignorant
 he doesn't know that he is cutting alternative energy
 programs and subsidizing oil companies or so
 fiendishly clever that he knows and doesn't care
 what he says. In the end, it doesn't make any difference.
 You get wretched policy either way. 

 The Apollo Project, a sensible outfit dedicated to
 reducing America's dependence on foreign oil, says
 90 percent of Americans support its goal of
 energy independence. Bracken Hendricks, the
 executive director, points out that there is
 remarkable agreement among many so-called strange bedfellows
 - labor and business, environmentalists and evangelicals,
 governors and generals, urbanites and farmers. 

 Meanwhile, what we are sticking with is
 soaring oil prices (ExxonMobil just reported
 the highest quarterly profit ever, $8.42 billion,
 by an American company) and declining discoveries.
 Several oil companies are reporting disappearing reserves,
 and Royal Dutch/Shell admitted it had overstated its
 reserves by 20 percent last year. 

 Nor are the major oil companies spending their
 mammoth profits on exploration or field development - they're
 doing mega-mergers and stock buybacks. ExxonMobil spent
 $9.95 billion to buy back its own stock in 2004. The
 Chinese and the Indians are now buying cars like mad,
 and the result is going to be an enormous supply crunch,
 sooner rather than later. 

 It is possible with existing technology to build a car
 that gets 500 miles per gallon, but the Bushies won't even
 raise the CAFE (fuel efficiency) standards for cars
 coming out now. The trouble with the Bush plan to develop
 hydrogen cars is that while you can get hydrogen out of water,
 you have put energy in to get it out, so there's a net
 energy loss. 

 Conservation is simply the cheapest and most effective way of
 addressing this problem. If you put a tax on carbon, it would
 move industry to wind or solar power. Wind power here in Texas
 is at the tipping point now - comparably priced. Our health,
 our environment, our economy and the globe itself would all
 

[Biofuel] Re: Criminal

2005-04-05 Thread Scott

US Constitution Article VI:
All treaties entered into, or that shall be entered into, shall be the
Supreme Law of the Land.

That is worth repeating.

SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND

UN Charter: Ratified by the US Senate and signed by President Truman,
Chapter 1, Article 2 (4)
No member state shall use the threat or the use of force against the
territorial integrity or the political sovereignty of any other nation.

Clearly, Bush and his minions violated the UN Charter which is a treaty that
had been legally entered into and that makes it The Supreme Law of the Land.

They broke the law!

They are CRIMINALS.

Richard Perle, chairman of the Defense Policy Board admitted as much on
November 19, 2003.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1089158,00.html

He failed to make the connection with international law and Article VI of
the US Constitution.

It amazes me how some people who live in America, and call themselves
patriotic, are willing to ignore the Constitution [as well as other parts of
our national DNA that are found in the documents of liberty.]

If you don't believe in what America stands for, and you aren't willing to
defend it, then you don't believe in America.  You're Un-American.  Period!


PEACE
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  ( Hakan wrote;...Criminal, established by the fact that we now know  that
 Iraq were no WMD threat to US. )

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RE: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come(Finally an eye is opening)

2005-04-05 Thread Keith Addison



This is what I have said all along. People miss the big picture. Suddam
Hussein was the weapon of mass destruction. 100% agreed.
KS


Sigh...

I suppose one man's sense is another man's idiocy, and to each his 
own and all that, all jolly good and well... But in fact it's a 
matter of what you support, what you go along with, what you accept 
wihout questioning, what you oppose, to whose benefit and at whose 
expense.


Which, I'm afraid, makes this idiocy, not sense. Lethal idiocy, 
furthermore, with its hands drenched in blood.


Saddam threatened nobody, certainly not the US.

Keith



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Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:56 PM
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Hakan,
I would like to give a humble option here,
( Hakan wrote;...Criminal, established by the fact that we now know  that
Iraq were no WMD threat to US. )
We took out Hitler for the same reason, Him and Suddam Hussein were weapons
of mass destruction.
H.



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Sent: 31 March, 2005 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come



 Bob,

 You were right and I am wrong and I am glad that I did get
 a very good explanation on how Hubbert could be so right.

 It also explains why president Carter was so genuinely
 worried, when he developed his energy plan. He had the
 foresight to realize that Hubbert was right.

 It also explains why we see the surge in the genuine hate
 of Americans. It is the cost of aggressive and egoistic foreign
 policies, that resulted in about 10 more years of artificially
 low oil prices.

 All of this, ending up in an almost criminal behavior by the
 Bush administration. I say almost, because I do not want
 to be too crude. The legal aspect of being criminal, is very
 clearly established, Criminal, established by the fact that we
 now know  that Iraq were no WMD threat to US. By laying
 the responsibility at the feet of faulty US intelligence
 community, the Bush administration is trying deliberately
 to avoid their  legal responsibility. A kind of reversed side
 of the well known argument  it was not my fault, I was
 ordered to do it. LOL

 All of this supported by the America people, in a reelection
 of president Bush. I hear the false argument that  only 48%
 voted him in office. This argument is poor mathematics, I
 cannot get to this result, when Bush won with a more than
 3 million of the populous American vote. It was the first
 election of Bush, that he did not have a populous majority
 and he was put in office by the Courts.

 Hakan


 At 11:16 PM 3/31/2005, you wrote:
All I know is what I read in the brief biography.  (and what I recall from
hearing about his work many years ago)

Hakan Falk wrote:
Bob,
I stand corrected and the only excuse I have, is that I only brought
forward a mistake that I read earlier. I remember that it was an article
about the hearings in US congress in mid 70'. Will however not do this
mistake again, but do not despair, there are many others I will do and
surely in my far from perfect English. -:)
What was his field at Berkeley?
Hakan


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Re: [Biofuel] Iraq Invasion - Age of Oil Scarcity

2005-04-05 Thread Scott

How many of us had an AHA moment when reading this article?

We now see the real reason for this illegal war [or at least one of the
reasons].

Saddam Hussein was about to be given a clean bill of health by the UN
inspection team beacuse he obviously didn't have WMD's.  He was then going
to open the spigots and start selling oil.  Not only was he going to sell
oil for Euros exacerbating the decline of the dollar, but that would also
have driven the global price of oil down.

Clearly, EXXON/Mobile, Chevron/Texaco, BP/Amoco et. al.  did not want the
price of oil to go down.

ExxonMobil Corporation reported the fourth quarter of 2004 as its highest
quarter ever...
http://www.npnweb.com/uploads/featurearticles/2005/MarketingStrategies/0503ms.asp


PEACE
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  Instead of inaugurating a new age of cheap oil, the Iraq war may become
known as the beginning of an era of scarcity.

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[Biofuel] Re: Biofuel Digest, Vol 8, Issue 22

2005-04-05 Thread Simon Fowler MADUR-SALES



Do think about water, though, they really don't like it!

Simon Fowler
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essage: 6
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 14:01:20 -1000
From: Thomas Mountain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] 271 Diesel Generators
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The 71 series detroit diesels have long been an industry standard. they are
a higher rpm engine and widely used in fishing boats for their speed. they
are a two cycle engine with a blower and are not quite as rugged as some of
the other diesels, ie, more easily damaged by overheating, more prone to
cracked heads, , and are famous for being leakers, leaking oil, and
require a bit more tuning to keep running at top efficiency, mainly keeping
the rack adjusted. In two cylinder engines, 2-71's or 2-53's refering to
the individual volume in cubic inches of the combustion chamber this
shouldnt be to much of a problem. I dont know how their rubber parts are
affected by biodiesel, but they are a good engine and have been around for
ever, pre WW2 if I remember correctly. They arent going to meet any modern
pollution control standards, which is probably why they were sold off. They
dont have the bottom end, loads of torque, at slower speeds, but , this isnt
a problem with generators.


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Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come(Finally an eye is opening)

2005-04-05 Thread John Hayes



This is great ... finally we are making sense. The WMD is not the issue.
This is what I have said all along. People miss the big picture. Suddam
Hussein was the weapon of mass destruction. 100% agreed.
KS


Only two problems with that:

a) Iraq was a sovereign nation. We do not have the right, either legally 
or morally, to depose an entire regime just because we don't like the 
leader. If you want to insist on a standard international litmus test to 
identify rogue leaders that need deposing because they legitimately 
threaten global security, then I'd actually agee with you. Thing is, 
Hussein did not meet that standard.


b) Your statement is revisionist history. Congress authorized the 
President to use force against Iraq because Iraqi WMDs were thought to 
represent an imminent threat to national security. Congress did not 
authorize force because Saddam was a bad person. If we are a nation 
governed by the rule of law, then the end does NOT justify the means.


You really don't want to live in a world where nations run around 
killing or toppling leaders they don't like.


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Re: [Biofuel] Iraq Invasion - Age of Oil Scarcity

2005-04-05 Thread MH

 One way of looking at is the increased price of petroleum
 satisfies the oil bosses desires for profits and possibly
 the decreased demand for petroleum products from the public
 without increasing taxes to discourage its use sometime in
 the future. 

 Is their any truth to the increased demand from
 India and China for personal transportation which
 might increase petroleum product prices due to the
 lack of supply? 


 How many of us had an AHA moment when reading this article?
 
 We now see the real reason for this illegal war [or at least one of the
 reasons].
 
 Saddam Hussein was about to be given a clean bill of health by the UN
 inspection team beacuse he obviously didn't have WMD's.  He was then going
 to open the spigots and start selling oil.  Not only was he going to sell
 oil for Euros exacerbating the decline of the dollar, but that would also
 have driven the global price of oil down.
 
 Clearly, EXXON/Mobile, Chevron/Texaco, BP/Amoco et. al.  did not want the
 price of oil to go down.
 
 ExxonMobil Corporation reported the fourth quarter of 2004 as its highest
 quarter ever...
 http://www.npnweb.com/uploads/featurearticles/2005/MarketingStrategies/0503ms.asp
 
 PEACE
 Scott


   - Original Message -
   Instead of inaugurating a new age of cheap oil, the Iraq war may become
   known as the beginning of an era of scarcity.
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[Biofuel] Empire in Decline -- War, Oil and the greater good

2005-04-05 Thread Michael Redler

Saddam Hussein as a WMD?
 
My perspective on this is that SH can be seen as a WMD. The problem is a lack 
of focus on the big picture (IMHO). If you want to discuss people as weapons, 
you must also have a way of gaging what they are destroying, how many of them 
exist in the world and where they show up in a list of priorities from those 
with the ability and inclination to do the greater good in the world.
 
What one does to address the problem of a weapon such as SH, says a lot about 
the vision of those trying to solve the problem and the war in Iraq is an 
excellent example. If there was a genuine motive to save lives by ending 
tyranny, the US threw out the baby with the bath water by resorting to war. It 
also causes many to ask if there were ulterior motives. This is especially true 
now that there is a growing buzz about the coming end of oil as our primary 
source of fuel. Blood for oil (IMO) is an accusation that will become less 
ambiguous with time. Keeping hidden agendas and going to war to satisfy them is 
a crime and insults the intelligence of conscientious citizens who see the 
lives lost and the lies told to cover it up. To err on the side of life is a 
phrase that I hope follows and haunts GWB for the rest of his life.
 
Both foreign and domestic policy in the US are geared toward the building of an 
empire. The biggest, long term problem facing the US is the fact that some US 
citizens don't believe that they are part of an empire and those that 
understand and see the empire, don't realize that it is in decline.
 
All empires rise and fall. 
 
Mike



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Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come(Finally an eye is opening)

2005-04-05 Thread Keith Addison



Sheesh

In fact I posted a reply saying it was lethal nonsense:


Sigh...

I suppose one man's sense is another man's idiocy, and to each his 
own and all that, all jolly good and well... But in fact it's a 
matter of what you support, what you go along with, what you accept 
wihout questioning, what you oppose, to whose benefit and at whose 
expense.


Which, I'm afraid, makes this idiocy, not sense. Lethal idiocy, 
furthermore, with its hands drenched in blood.


Saddam threatened nobody, certainly not the US.

Keith


:-(

Keith



Keith Addison wrote:

This is great ... finally we are making sense. The WMD is not the issue.
This is what I have said all along. People miss the big picture. Suddam
Hussein was the weapon of mass destruction. 100% agreed.
KS


Only two problems with that:

a) Iraq was a sovereign nation. We do not have the right, either 
legally or morally, to depose an entire regime just because we don't 
like the leader. If you want to insist on a standard international 
litmus test to identify rogue leaders that need deposing because 
they legitimately threaten global security, then I'd actually agee 
with you. Thing is, Hussein did not meet that standard.


b) Your statement is revisionist history. Congress authorized the 
President to use force against Iraq because Iraqi WMDs were thought 
to represent an imminent threat to national security. Congress did 
not authorize force because Saddam was a bad person. If we are a 
nation governed by the rule of law, then the end does NOT justify 
the means.


You really don't want to live in a world where nations run around 
killing or toppling leaders they don't like.


jh


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[Biofuel] Re: 271 Diesel Generators - was Re: Biofuel Digest, Vol 8, Issue 22

2005-04-05 Thread Keith Addison



PLEASE don't do this! At the top of the Digest it says: When 
replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than 
Re: Contents of Biofuel digest...


Nobody will read a message titled Re: Biofuel Digest, Vol 8, Issue 
22 and it will foul up archives searches forever. It should have 
read Re: 271 Diesel Generators, as it does now.


Thankyou.

Keith Addison
Journey to Forever
KYOTO Pref., Japan
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Biofuel list owner


I used to work for the local Detroit distributor and we saw a few of 
the 71 series running on biodiesel. Water in the fuel system will 
mess up those high pressure unit injectors very quickly indeed. I 
cannot remember the material for the seal on the fuel pump, I thnk 
they went to viton about 15 years ago, the seals around the injector 
bodies were certainly changed around then.


Do think about water, though, they really don't like it!

Simon Fowler


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Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come(Finally an eye is opening)

2005-04-05 Thread John Hayes



John, I agree with what you say, but I did NOT write that!!!

Sheesh



Oops. Very sorry Keith. I know you didn't write that. That's what I get 
for hastily replying while I'm waiting for the coffee to finish brewing.


Again. Sorry about that.

jh
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[Biofuel] Biodiesel-powered Multi-fuel Camp Stove

2005-04-05 Thread Kenny Dunn

Hi all,

I am gearing up for my first test batch of biodiesel from virgin oil this
weekend.  A few have suggested that using a proven process and visual
observances should be satisfactory tests to verify that all went well.  Be
that as it may, I am still trying uncover any possible measures to help verify
my results.  So, I am wondering, has anyone used biodiesel in a backpacking
stove that is capable of burning petro-diesel?  Can I expect that if I use
biodiesel in one of these jobbies, should it burn the same as petro-diesel? 
Should I expect any difference in flame color?  Would this sort of test be
completely insignificant?  Either way, I would certainly feel better the next
time I'm out on the trail if I was heating my dinner with bio instead of petro.

Thanks in advance,
Ken
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[Biofuel] Changing the Oil Economy

2005-04-05 Thread Keith Addison


Worldwatch Institute: Global Security: Trends and Facts: Security Redefined

State of the World 2005 Trends and Facts - Changing the Oil Economy

* A Strategic Commodity
* Oil and Global Economic Security
* Oil and Civil Security
* Oil and Climate Security
* The Fork in the Road
* Discussion Questions

Even as oil has become indispensable, its continued use has begun to 
impose unacceptable costs and risks.


A Strategic Commodity

Industrial civilization is defined by the staggering abundance of 
energy it uses. The global consumption of useful energy per person is 
about 13 times higher than in pre-industrial times, even though total 
population has risen by a factor of 10 in the last 300 years. We have 
become a culture of energy consumption. And to date, most of that 
energy has come from fossil fuels, of which oil is the most highly 
prized. Oil saturates every aspect of modern life as a feedstock for 
countless products as well as an energy source, and has become the 
most important strategic commodity ever. Yet, at the same time, it 
has become a liability that threatens global security in three broad 
ways.


Oil and Global Economic Security

The key actors on the oil stage-importing and exporting 
nations-enjoy much the same relationship as junkies and pushers: 
neither can easily do without the other.


First, oil threatens global economic security because it is a finite 
resource with no clear successor and because the gap between supply 
and demand is growing. Oil, most of it imported, accounts for a large 
share of energy budgets in most developed countries: 36 percent in 
France, 39 percent in the United States, and 49 percent in Japan, for 
instance. (Developing countries are even more vulnerable because 
their imports are larger in relation to GDP.) Growing evidence 
suggests that rising demand, especially from nations such as China 
and India, will soon permanently outpace supply, leading to a 
longterm rise in prices. Meanwhile, the exporting nations are 
dependent in their own way, in that many of them-especially in the 
Middle East-have become accustomed over the years to the heavy stream 
of revenues from oil sales and have failed to use those funds to 
diversify their economies.


The widening of the supply/demand gap could be accelerated by the 
imminent peak of oil production, if the theories of a growing body of 
dissident geologists and oil analysts prove correct. They argue that 
the history of oil production and a careful analysis of current 
reserve estimates suggest that global oil output is likely to peak 
soon, perhaps within 10 years, and then drop off sharply. Already, 
oil production has plateaued or begun to decline in 33 of the 48 
largest producers, including 6 of OPEC's 11 members.


Even under conditions of steady but moderate growth in demand, such a 
drop in supply would be troublesome. But its occurrence just when the 
huge developing economies of India, China, and other awakening 
economic giants are poised to take off could spell major trouble for 
the global economy.


Oil's Global Role


* Global energy consumption is about 130 times higher than in 
pre-industrial times.
* Oil is the single largest source of energy, accounting for 37 
percent of global energy production.
* The United States accounts for one quarter of global oil 
consumption. In the U.S, oil price spikes have preceded 9 of the 10 
recessions since World War II.
* Oil accounts for 36 percent of the total energy budget in France, 
39 percent in the United States, 49 percent in Japan, 51 percent in 
Thailand, and 77 percent in Ecuador.


Oil and Civil Security

Countries that depend on oil revenues tend to be more authoritarian, 
more corrupt, more conflict-prone, and less developed than countries 
with diversified economies.


Second, oil threatens civil security by undermining peace, civil 
order, democracy, and human rights in many regions. This effect takes 
at least three forms: great-power actions, the natural resource 
curse, and terrorism.


Great powers have sought reliable access to oil since at least 1912, 
when Great Britain converted its fleet from coal to oil and 
established a stake in Iraq's oilfields to ensure the ascendancy of 
the Royal Navy. Other great powers, including the United States, have 
also wielded their military and economic strength to secure access to 
oil supplies, interfering in the affairs of other countries and 
supporting repressive regimes when useful. The 1981 Carter Doctrine 
asserted the U.S. right to treat any attempt to control the Persian 
Gulf as an assault on the vital interests of the United States. By 
one mid-range estimate, the United States spends at least $49 billion 
every year on the military presence necessary to ensure Middle 
Eastern oil flows.


The natural resource curse refers to the tendency of mineral wealth 
to support corruption and conflict rather than economic growth and 
development. It can be seen at work in Saudi Arabia and 

[Biofuel] Battle for Canada's underground resources

2005-04-05 Thread Keith Addison


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Battle for Canada's underground resources
Some tribes oppose pipeline to tap land rich in oil reserves

Robert Collier, Chronicle Staff Writer

Thursday, March 24, 2005

While Congress debates whether to allow oil and gas drilling in 
Alaska's Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, a similar battle with much 
higher stakes is under way in northwest Canada.


The $6 billion Mackenzie Pipeline project would open the Canadian 
Arctic for natural gas drilling and send the gas 800 miles south down 
the Mackenzie River Valley to Alberta. There, much of this fuel would 
be used to throttle up production in a huge but hard-to-tap supply of 
petroleum dispersed in underground gravel formations. These so-called 
oil sands hold petroleum reserves that are second in size only to 
Saudi Arabia's, and analysts say they could supply a large portion of 
U.S. energy needs for decades to come.


But the project has sparked opposition from some native tribal 
groups, which call it a federal grab of their ancestral lands, and 
from environmentalists, who say it would churn out greenhouse gases 
linked to global warming.


It is a fight that is likely to forever set the course for Canada's 
vast and empty north. The project is full of continental superlatives 
-- North America's richest oil patch, its biggest construction 
project since the Alaska pipeline in the 1970s, its largest 
strip-mining operation.


By far the most important thing for North America are those oil 
sands in Canada, said Robert Esser, director of oil and gas 
resources at Cambridge Energy Research Associates in New York. It's 
nice we're going to have access to (the Alaska refuge), but there are 
a lot of unknown questions there. We have no idea whether there is 
oil or gas or how much. In the oil sands, we know the reserves are 
huge, much larger than in Alaska.


The Canadian government, which calls the project an economic 
necessity, is not required to seek approval from Parliament in 
Ottawa. Pipeline construction is expected to start in early 2007, 
with gas flowing two years later.


In Alaska, by contrast, congressional authorization is required to 
develop the wildlife refuge. Last week's Senate vote to allow 
drilling will be followed by several more months of legislative 
maneuvering and, if the plan is approved, about eight years of 
preparation before oil begins to be pumped.


Despite its bright prospects, Canada's pipeline could still be 
stopped in its tracks by opposition from one of the region's native 
tribes, which are known in Canada as First Nations.


The Deh Cho First Nation, a tribe of about 4,200 people who occupy 
the southern third of the pipeline route, has filed suit in federal 
court in Vancouver, British Columbia, to block the project. Unlike 
tribes of the northern Mackenzie Valley that have settled their land 
disputes with the government and support the pipeline, the Deh Cho 
are holding out for autonomous powers in their area. Until a deal is 
reached on the land dispute, the government lacks legal authority for 
a pipeline right of way, the tribe insists.


What we see today is Canada not living up to its obligations, said 
Noeline Villebrun, national chief of the Dene, the parent federation 
of Mackenzie Valley tribes. If Canada hopes to settle the claims, 
then the Deh Cho have to see their rights being accommodated.


The Deh Cho won a round last week, when a federal judge ordered the 
government to release briefing notes, minutes, draft plans, 
correspondence and other documents related to planning for the 
pipeline project.


Contained in the oil sands are vast quantities of so-called bitumen, 
or super-heavy oil, underneath an area of northern Alberta as big as 
Florida. One extraction process is similar to strip mining, in which 
sand is scooped out and cooked at high heat to extract the sludge. 
Another process pumps steam into the underground deposits, dissolving 
the bitumen and allowing it to be piped to the surface. Under both 
methods, the resulting goo is refined into commercial grades of crude 
oil and piped to customers, mostly in the western United States. 
About 2 tons of sand have to be dug up, heated and processed to make 
a single 42-gallon barrel of oil.


The crucial ingredient in this process is natural gas. Although other 
fuels have been used to cook the oil sands, such as coal and the 
bitumen itself, none works as well as gas. Production of gas from 
long-established fields in Alberta is expected to decline in coming 
years, and because demand for gas is rising fast, expansion of the 
oil sands will require new supplies.


The nearest major source is in three well-explored yet untapped gas 
fields in the delta of the Mackenzie River on the shore of the Arctic 
Ocean. If the pipeline is built, gas from the delta can be funneled 
down to Alberta, where it will connect with the province's pipeline 
system to reach the oil sands.


With international oil prices 

[Biofuel] US in race to unlock new energy source

2005-04-05 Thread Keith Addison


Guardian Unlimited | Special reports |

US in race to unlock new energy source

Green groups warn against moving methane hydrates from beneath seabed

David Adam, science correspondent
Monday April 4, 2005
The Guardian

More than a mile below the choppy Gulf of Mexico waters lies a vast, 
untapped source of energy. Locked in mysterious crystals, the 
sediment beneath the seabed holds enough natural gas to fuel 
America's energy-guzzling society for decades, or to bring about 
sufficient climate change to melt the planet's glaciers and cause 
catastrophic flooding, depending on whom you talk to.


No prizes for guessing the US government's preferred line. This week 
it will dispatch a drilling vessel to the region, on a mission to 
bring this virtually inexhaustible new supply of fossil fuel to power 
stations within a decade.


The ship will hunt for methane hydrates, a weird combination of gas 
and water produced in the crushing pressures deep within the earth - 
literally, ice that burns.


The stakes could not be higher: scientists reckon there could be more 
valuable carbon fuel stored in the vast methane hydrate deposits 
scattered under the world's seabed and Arctic permafrost than in all 
of the known reserves of coal, oil and gas put together.


The amount of energy there is just too big to ignore, said Bahman 
Tohidi, head of the centre for gas hydrate research at Heriot Watt 
University in Edinburgh. It's not easy, but it's not something we 
can say we can't do so let's forget about it.


Britain may miss out on any future methane hydrate boom - the North 
Sea is too shallow and no deposits have been found in the deeper 
waters further north - but other countries have recognised their 
potential. Japan, India and Korea, as well as the United States, are 
investing millions of pounds in hydrate research.


Ray Boswell, who heads the hydrate programme at the US department of 
energy's national energy technology laboratory, said the US was 
determined to be the first to mine the resource.


Commercially viable production is definitely realistic within a 
decade. The world is investing in hydrates, and one reason for us to 
do this is to maintain our leadership position in this emerging 
technology.


Its new project will see the drilling vessel Uncle John spend about a 
month in the Gulf of Mexico, where it will bore down to two of the 
largest expected methane hydrate deposits in the region. Scientists 
on the ship will collect samples for experiments to see how the 
methane might be freed and transported to the surface.


This is harder than it sounds. In some deposits the crystals occur in 
thick layers, in others they are found as smaller nuggets. Puncture 
one hydrate reservoir and the giant release of gas can disrupt 
drilling, pierce another and getting the methane out is like sucking 
porridge through a straw.


This unpredictable nature means energy companies traditionally view 
hydrates as a nuisance. This gives them a joint interest with the US 
government as both sides want to know where the crystals are - one to 
avoid them and the other to exploit them.


Mr Boswell said: We have a marriage of near-term industry interests 
and longer-term government interests. If they develop the ability to 
detect hydrates for the purpose of avoiding them, that's useful for 
people who want to do the exact same thing for the purpose of finding 
them.


Devinder Mahajan, a chemist at the US department of energy's 
laboratory in Brookhaven, is looking for ways to encourage subsea 
hydrate deposits to release their methane. He has developed a 
pressurised tank that allows scientists to study hydrate formation. 
You fill the vessel with water and sediment, put in methane gas and 
cool it down under high pressure. After a few hours, the hydrates 
form, you can actually see it. They look like ice, but they're not, 
he said. This is a very important issue, tied to our future national 
energy security.


Hydrates on land are easier to get at, and in 2003 a team of oil 
companies and scientists from Canada, Japan, India, Germany and the 
US showed it was possible to produce methane from the icy deposits 
below Canada's Northwest Territories. BP and the US government are 
carrying out similar experiments in Alaska.


Environmental groups oppose attempts to extract methane from hydrate reserves.

Roger Higman, a climate change campaigner with Friends of the Earth, 
said: The Americans are desperately looking around trying to boost 
their fossil fuels because they think the oil is going to run out or 
there's going to be a scarcity. The actual scarcity is in the space 
the atmosphere has for taking the carbon dioxide that burning methane 
produces.


He added: We already have enough fossil fuel in the world that, if 
burnt, will ruin the world's climate. Rather than look for more, we 
need to keep the oil, gas and coal we already know about underground 
and develop alternative sources of energy, principally 

[Biofuel] Oil in Troubled Waters

2005-04-05 Thread Keith Addison


t r u t h o u t

Energy Special: Oil in Troubled Waters
   By Michael Peel
   Financial Times

   Friday 25 March 2005

   In the mangrove swamps of Nigeria's oil-producing Rivers State, 
the Niger Delta People's Volunteer Force was in restless repose. A 
fighter worked out with dumbbells while others lounged on mattresses 
in front of a large outbuilding. One young man was reading, aloud in 
English, from a copy of Macbeth.


   Their leader, Alhaji Mujahid Dokubo-Asari, was preparing to take 
me to a swamp facility where he claimed to refine oil taken from a 
pipeline operated by Royal Dutch/Shell, the energy multinational. 
(Asari says this is not stealing; it is the Nigerian government that 
is stealing.) He had just changed out of a black tracksuit into a 
bright orange jumpsuit with the Shell logo on the back. He put on a 
white hard hat belonging to Willbros, the oil services company. Do I 
look fine? he asked, running his hands over his ample stomach.


   On this, the third of four occasions I visited Asari, he had not 
yet quite become the symbol of a Robin Hood-like quest by the poor 
for a share of the nation's oil wealth that he claims to be today. 
But he was fast gaining notoriety: his critics, outside government as 
well as within, saw him as a gangster rather than a political 
revolutionary. Either way, his rising profile says much about the way 
the Delta is being choked by a violent and corrupt web of 
relationships between oil multinationals, government officials, 
smugglers, ethnic fighters and local communities. I wanted to find 
out whether he was a true challenge to the inequities - perhaps even 
the existence - of Nigeria's multinational-operated oil regime. The 
country already provides about 10 per cent of US oil imports, while 
Britain expects to source a similar proportion of its energy needs 
from the Delta by 2010.


   The more than $300bn of revenues earned by Nigeria from Delta oil 
since independence in 1960 has in substantial part been stolen and 
squandered by generals and civilian governments, leaving its people 
among the poorest in the world. In September last year, Asari 
threatened to launch an offensive called Operation Locust Feast 
unless government troops backed off from the area in which he 
operated and the authorities began talks about oil-resource control. 
He denounced oil companies and said he could not be responsible for 
the safety of foreign nationals working in the area. This helped push 
the price of oil on the world markets through $50 a barrel for the 
first time. Shell evacuated over 200 staff. Nigeria's government 
invited Asari to Abuja, the capital, where he and another militia 
leader agreed to make peace and disarm. The Rivers State government 
claimed it later collected over a thousand weapons from the militias, 
but many Deltans still see the whole process as an emergency 
arrangement aimed at reassuring oil markets, rather than a serious 
attempt to end the region's conflict.


   Asari was cultivating media interest before the deal, so a 
colleague and I accepted an invitation to meet his men early one 
morning at a jetty about an hour and a half's drive from the oil city 
of Port Harcourt. They eventually arrived by speedboat and moored, 
half-hidden behind the end of the jetty. We quickly climbed aboard. A 
machine gun and three Kalashnikov rifles lay behind benches on the 
floor: one of the youths apologised as he passed the machine gun over 
my head. The men were swigging gin, which blew in my face in a fine 
spray as we picked up speed. They said sorry again; then one of them 
fired two shots in the air.


   The camp, reached after an exhilarating high-speed ride through a 
series of branching waterways, was full of the signs of expansion. A 
new accommodation block was being built and boat engines were being 
repaired by the waterside. Asari told us there was no shortage of 
willing expert helpers who support his idea of an independent nation 
for his Ijaw people, although none was around that day. Doctors have 
been coming twice a week, we have people volunteering, we have 
lawyers, he said.


   The struggle of the Ijaw people is a defining feature of 
Nigeria's post-colonial politics, which have been dominated by 
dictatorship, corruption and infrastructural collapse. The country 
was created by British colonial order in 1914, binding together 
people from hundreds of ethnic groups who speak hundreds of different 
languages. The Ijaw, the Delta's largest ethnic group, have in effect 
been disenfranchised by modern political boundary-setting: being a 
widely dispersed people concentrated around the Delta's coastline and 
rivers, their communities form parts of many states, rather than a 
single homogeneous zone. In the Delta, a long-running conflict over 
the distribution of local government posts between the Ijaw and the 
Itsekiri peoples is thought to have killed hundreds of people in the 
past few years, and even led, in 

[Biofuel] Nuclear power 'regaining stature' as option

2005-04-05 Thread Keith Addison



Nuclear power 'regaining stature' as option

Global warming, energy needs lead to renewed interest

Pierre Verdy / AFP - Getty Images

Claude Mandil, executive director of the International Energy Agency, 
delivers a speech Monday during a ministerial international 
conference in Paris. Nuclear energy is regaining consideration as a 
key energy source, with concerns over greenhouse gas emissions 
overcoming worries about accidents at atomic reactors.



The Associated Press

Updated: 5:29 p.m. ET March 21, 2005

PARIS - Only by building more nuclear power stations can the world 
meet its soaring energy needs while averting environmental disaster, 
experts at an international conference said Monday.


Energy ministers and officials from 74 countries were in Paris for 
the two-day meeting on the future of nuclear energy, as concerns 
about global warming and fossil fuel supplies renew governments' 
interest in atomic power.


It's clear that nuclear energy is regaining stature as a serious 
option, said Mohamed ElBaradei, head of the International Atomic 
Energy Agency - the U.N. nuclear watchdog - which organized the 
conference.


ElBaradei said the entry into force of the Kyoto Protocol, which 
commits governments to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, was focusing 
minds.


Power plants fired by oil, coal and gas are major sources of carbon 
dioxide and other gases that cause global warming. The Kyoto accord 
will force plant operators to pay for their pollution, making nuclear 
power facilities more competitive by comparison.


In the past, the virtual absence of restrictions or taxes on 
greenhouse gas emissions has meant that nuclear power's advantage, 
low emissions, has had no tangible economic value, ElBaradei said. 
But the Kyoto Protocol will likely change that over the longer term.


Fossil-fuel costs worrisome
Soaring fossil fuel costs, including the historic highs charted by 
oil prices during the past year, are a more immediate worry for 
governments - and a reminder of the petroleum shocks of the 1970s 
that persuaded countries, including France, to intensify nuclear 
production.


But accidents at the Three Mile Island facility in Pennsylvania in 
1979 and at Chernobyl, Ukraine, seven years later undermined public 
confidence in nuclear power.


Although there is still deep public concern about the risk of 
accidents and transportation and storage of radioactive waste, 
nuclear advocates say there also is a new awareness that relying on 
fossil fuels could lead to an even greater environmental catastrophe.


The climate will probably change no matter what we now do, but we 
should, at the very least, make every effort to slow it down, Donald 
Johnston, secretary general of the Organization for Economic 
Cooperation and Development, said in a video statement. We ignore 
its importance at our peril.


When Finland begins construction of a new reactor later this year, it 
will become the first Western European country to do so since 1991. 
France plans to start building a new-generation reactor in 2007.


Nuclear plants produce one-third of Europe's electricity, saving 
greenhouse emissions equivalent to those of all of Europe's cars, 
French Industry Minister Patrick Devedjian said.


In a message to the conference, U.S. Energy Secretary Sam Bodman 
cited a University of Chicago study that showed nuclear power can 
become competitive with electricity produced by plants fueled by coal 
or gas because of new technologies delivering more efficient 
reactors.


'Time to start building again'
Echoing recent comments by President Bush, Bodman said: America 
hasn't ordered a new nuclear power plant since the 1970s, and it's 
time to start building again.


Even in some countries that have been fiercely opposed to nuclear 
power, the mood is shifting. For example, Italians voted against the 
use of atomic energy in a referendum the year after Chernobyl, and 
the government began gradually decommissioning plants.


Regarding nuclear power, we perceive a clear change in public 
opinion, notably by the young generations, Italian Industry Minister 
Antonio Marzano said.


Asia may lead the way
The real boom in nuclear power is expected to focus on developing 
countries, particularly in Asia.


China is expected to increase its nuclear production capacity from 
the current 6.5 gigawatts to 36 gigawatts by 2020, according to IAEA 
figures, while India plans to multiply its production capacity 
tenfold and Russia is expected to double its capacity to about 45 
gigawatts. A gigawatt equals 1 billion watts.


U.S. nuclear plant builder Westinghouse Electric Co. is among 
contenders for an $8 billion contract for four new Chinese reactors 
to be awarded by year's end.


© 2005 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may 
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[Biofuel] Damning verdict on GM crop (oil seed rape)

2005-04-05 Thread Keith Addison


Guardian Unlimited

Damning verdict on GM crop

Final report on world's most comprehensive field trials says oil seed 
rape varieties would harm wildlife and environment


Paul Brown and David Gow
Tuesday March 22, 2005
The Guardian

The following correction was printed in the Guardian's corrections 
and clarifications column, Thursday March 25 2005


Contrary to what we said in the report below, oil seed rape is not 
the largest single crop in Britain, neither is it the one from which 
farmers make most money. According to statistics published by the 
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, it comes third on 
both counts, behind wheat and barley.


The long-awaited final results of the GM trials for Britain's biggest 
crop, winter oil seed rape, show that wildlife and the environment 
would suffer if the crop was grown in the UK, in effect ending the 
biotech industry's hopes of introducing GM varieties in the 
foreseeable future.


The government, which has been keen to introduce GM crops, now has 
the results of the world's most comprehensive crop study, 
demonstrating that the GM varieties currently on offer would be 
detrimental to the countryside. Bayer CropScience, the company that 
owns the patent on the GM oil seed rape being tested, said afterwards 
that it was not going ahead with its application to grow the crop in 
Europe.


The Conservatives took advantage of the government's discomfort, with 
Tim Yeo, the environment spokesman, announcing that the party would 
not allow GM crops to be grown in Britain unless it could be proved 
they were safe for people and the environment.


The trials, whose results were published by the Royal Society 
yesterday, began before the last election when the public backlash 
against the government's plans to introduce GM crops stunned Downing 
Street.


Michael Meacher, the then environment minister, came up with a plan 
to get the government off the hook by running extensive trials of GM 
and non-GM crops to test their effects on bees, butterflies, bugs, 
weeds and other farmland wildlife in two farming regimes. Large 
fields were planted half with GM and half with conventional crops and 
the results compared.


It was widely predicted that the GM regime, which uses fewer 
applications of herbicide than conventional crops, would benefit 
wildlife, but for three out of the four crops tested the reverse was 
the case.


Yesterday's results were particularly significant because 
winter-grown oil seed rape occupies 330,000 hectares (815,000 acres) 
of British fields and is the largest single crop, and the one from 
which farmers make most money.


The main finding was that broadleaf weeds, such as chickweed, on 
which birds rely heavily for food, were far less numerous in GM 
fields than conventional fields. Some of the grass weeds were more 
numerous, although this had less direct benefit for wildlife and 
affected the quality of the crops.


The scientific results made it clear that it is not the GM crops that 
harm wildlife but the herbicide sprayed on them. Fields containing 
conventional crops are sprayed with a herbicide which usually kills 
weeds before the crops emerge but herbicide-tolerant GM crops can be 
sprayed later.


The results on this crop were that the patented glufosinate-ammonium 
weedkiller was so effective that there were one third fewer seeds for 
birds to eat at the end of the season than in a conventional crop. 
Two years later there were still 25% fewer seeds, even though the 
weedkiller had not been applied again.


Les Firbank, who was in charge of the trials, said: These weeds are 
effectively the bottom of the food chain, so the seeds they produce 
are vital for farmland birds, which are already in decline. There 
were also fewer bees and butterflies in the GM crops. All the 
evidence is that it is the herbicide that makes the difference to the 
wildlife. Mark Avery, of the RSPB, said: Six years ago, before the 
farm-scale trials, we were told that GM crops were good for wildlife 
and good for farmers' profits. Now, against all expectations, we are 
told they are bad for both. It is bad news for the biotech industry.


Elliot Morley, the environment minister, will await the advice of the 
government's advisory committee before making a final decision, but 
said the trials demonstrated the government's precautionary approach 
on GM crops.


The European commission will today reluctantly give the go-ahead for 
other GM seeds and plants to be used commercially in Europe and 
demand that Austria, Luxembourg, France, Germany and Greece lift 
national bans.


Although aware that the decision will provoke a public backlash and 
be open to challenge, the 25 commissioners, according to documents 
seen by the Guardian, say they have no alternative but to fulfil 
their legal obligations and force through a decision because a 
regulatory committee of national scientific experts and then 
ministers could not reach a majority 

[Biofuel] An Auto Industry Ad Leaves Critics Choking

2005-04-05 Thread Keith Addison


An Auto Industry Ad Leaves Critics Choking
   By Danny Hakim
   The New York Times

   Tuesday 22 March 2005

   Detroit - Toyota, Ford, BMW and several other automakers are 
financing an advertising campaign aimed at politicians that asserts 
that automobiles are virtually emission-free.


   The campaign is part of an effort by a broad coalition of 
automakers to present their vehicles as environmentally benign at a 
time when the coalition is suing California to block a new regulation 
to curb global warming emissions and continuing to lobby in 
Washington against tougher fuel-economy regulations.


   A print version of the ad has appeared in journals aimed at 
legislators like Roll Call, Congress Daily and Congressional 
Quarterly, as well as in the industry trade publication Automotive 
News, according to the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers, the 
lobbying group behind the campaign.


   The ads have sparked a campaign by the Union of Concerned 
Scientists, an environmentalist group that says its efforts have 
generated 20,000 complaints asking the Federal Trade Commission to 
investigate whether the industry is making misleading claims.


   While regulations have indeed forced automakers to greatly 
improve emissions of smog-forming pollutants, the ads essentially 
ignore greenhouse gases like carbon dioxide as an automotive 
emission. The ads appear to contradict some automakers' own 
statements about rising levels of greenhouse gas emissions from cars 
and trucks. Smog-forming emissions remain a public health issue, 
according to environmental and consumer groups, as the number of 
vehicles continues to increase.


   Our advertising practices division and our enforcement division 
are both aware of the ad and the campaign by UCS, Mitch Katz, a 
spokesman for the trade commission, said, referring to the Union of 
Concerned Scientists. We are evaluating the complaints we've 
received right now.


   He declined to say how many complaints the commission had received.

   The alliance includes most major automakers: Toyota, General 
Motors, Ford, DaimlerChrysler, Mazda, BMW, Mitsubishi, Porsche and 
Volkswagen.


   The ad shows a picture of a toddler in a car eating a Popsicle.

   Your car may never be spotless, but it's 99 percent cleaner than 
you think, the ad says. Autos manufactured today are virtually 
emission-free. And that's a dramatic improvement over models from 
just 30 years ago.


   Gloria Bergquist, a spokeswoman for the alliance, said that the 
ad's use of the term virtually emission-free should be understood 
to refer only to emissions classified as pollutants by the 
Environmental Protection Agency.


   Whether to consider greenhouse gases as pollutants is a 
politically charged issue. The Clinton administration determined 
carbon dioxide to be a pollutant, but the Bush administration 
reversed the decision. Several states and environment groups are 
suing to force the Environmental Protection Agency to regulate carbon 
dioxide emissions as pollutants.


   But David Friedman, research director of the Union of Concerned 
Scientists' clean vehicles program, said the advertisement itself 
made no such distinction - it simply called vehicles virtually 
emission-free.


   It reminds you of the cigarette makers, he said. They're 
trying to hide the harmful emissions coming from their vehicles.


   Though some cars on the road today are considered to be emitting 
roughly 99 percent fewer smog-forming particles than cars did in the 
pre-regulatory 1960s, Bergquist said the statement could not be 
broadly applied to all new cars and trucks until regulations of such 
emissions take effect by 2010.


   Automotive emissions of greenhouse gases, however, have been 
rising for two reasons: The number of vehicles is increasing and 
average fuel economy has declined since the late 1980s because of 
surging sales of sport utility vehicles and big pickups.


   Many scientists have raised potentially serious health concerns 
related to global warming, though there are dissenters. Most major 
automakers have said that they do take the issue of reducing global 
warming emissions quite seriously. In DaimlerChrysler's 2004 
environmental report, for instance, the company's chief executive, 
JŸrgen Schrempp, said in an opening statement that reducing CO 
emissions is the central topic as we strive for sustainable mobility.


   But Dennis Fitzgibbons, a spokesman for the company in 
Washington, said that the ad referred to emissions that have 
health-based effects that are defined under the Clean Air Act.


   Not all automakers appeared to agree with the alliance's blanket 
assessment that cars are now virtually emission-free. Honda, which 
is not an alliance member, said, Today's vehicles in many cases are 
virtually emissions-free with regards to smog-forming gases. 
However, CO emissions remain a significant contributor to global 
warming trends.


 

[Biofuel] Goodbye To All That Oil

2005-04-05 Thread Keith Addison



Goodbye To All That Oil

By Stan Cox, AlterNet. Posted April 4, 2005.

The peak oil idea - which says that world oil production will go into 
irreversible decline sometime in the next decade or two - is quickly 
morphing into conventional wisdom.


Until recently, peak-oil analysts got about as much respect from the 
energy establishment as do perpetual-motion enthusiasts. But now, 
with oil prices headed for uncharted territory and even Saudi Arabia 
seemingly unable to boost production to higher levels, the peak oil 
idea - which says that world oil production will go into irreversible 
decline sometime in the the next decade or two - is quickly morphing 
into conventional wisdom.


Fifty years ago, geologist M. King Hubbert showed that the output of 
an oilfield, or indeed the oil production of an entire country, 
increases year by year up to the point (a peak) at which 
approximately half the oil is exhausted. From there, he said, annual 
output drops inexorably toward zero.


Hubbert hit the bullseye with his prediction that U.S. production 
would peak in 1970. And over the past half century, country after 
country has seen its oil production hit a peak and start dropping. 
Yet for decades, economists, petroleum executives and government 
officials refused to follow Hubbert's analysis to its logical 
conclusion - that in the easily foreseeable future, humanity will 
pass over a global peak of oil production, where there awaits a very 
grim, slippery slope.


The Hubbert Curve, designed by geophysicist M. King Hubbert, 
illustrates that over time, the rate of oil production rises and then 
falls in a bell-shape pattern.


But gradually, in the past couple of years, the main issue in the oil 
debate has shifted from whether a world peak will occur to when. And 
when it comes to peak-oil predictions these days, there is no 
shortage.


Please place your bets

Colin Campbell of the Association for the Study of Peak Oil and Gas 
(ASPO) predicts that production will begin its decline between now 
and 2010.


British Petroleum exploration consultant Francis Harper believes it 
will happen between 2010 and 2020. Consulting firm PFC Energy puts it 
at around 2010 to 2015. The publication Petroleum Review predicts 
that demand will outstrip supply in 2007. Richard Heinberg, author of 
the 2003 book, The Party's Over: Oil, War, and the Fate of Industrial 
Societies, expects a peak in 2007 or 2008.


Retired Princeton professor Kenneth Deffeyes, author of the 
just-published, Beyond Oil: The View from Hubbert's Peak is more 
pessimistic, and more specific, about when the peak will happen: 
Thanksgiving Day, 2005. (His tongue appears to be in his cheek 
regarding the day, but not the year).


If all that is too gloomy for you, energy consultant Michael Lynch 
maintains that there's no peak in sight for the next 20 or 30 
years. Peter Odell of Erasmus University in the Netherlands has 
tacked a full 30 years onto Deffeyes' grim prediction, setting a date 
of Thanksgiving 2035. And Uncle Sam has the cheeriest news of all: a 
peak year of 2037 forecast by the Department of Energy.


Now how many times has someone told you, Oh, yeah, all my life 
they've been saying the oil's about to run out, and it hasn't done it 
yet? In fact, the record of oil forecasting has not been an exercise 
in Chicken-Littlism.


Asking, When will oil peak and begin its decline? (not, When will 
it run out?), the prognosticators of the past came up with dates 
only five to 10 years ahead of many of today's predictions. Roger 
Bentley of the University of Reading found that in the 1970s - during 
the last outbreak of peak-oil fever - analysts from reputable 
organizations (including Esso, Shell, the UK Department of Energy, 
and the U.N., as well as Hubbert himself) were nearly unanimous in 
predicting a world oil peak somewhere around the year 2000.


Does the peak year even matter?

With oil prices soaring, economic logic says the sooner the peak's 
date can be nailed down, the better. Financial web sites are buzzing 
about it, but in a somewhat merrier key than the peak-oil sites. One 
research firm is even forecasting production peaks for individual oil 
companies, with obvious implications for stock values.


On the other hand, if we're more concerned about improving humanity's 
prospects in 2010 or 2037 than Wall Street's prospects at the close 
of trading tomorrow, then one prediction is probably as good as 
another. In designing an energy policy that can be sustained far into 
the post-petroleum future, the precise timing of the peak is of about 
as much practical importance as the date of the next total eclipse of 
the sun (on that forecast, astronomers agree: March 29, 2006).


A recent report prepared for the U.S. government by Science 
Applications International Corporation suggests that whatever the 
peak year turns out to be, 2005 is the time to get moving on energy 
policy. The report's lead author, Robert L. Hirsch, 

[Biofuel] Re: killing or toppling leaders

2005-04-05 Thread Scott

Besides, it violates the Constitution, Article VI - The Supreme Law of the
Land

- Original Message -  You really don't want to live in a world
where nations run around
 killing or toppling leaders they don't like.

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RE: [OFF TOPIC] Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come

2005-04-05 Thread Tom Irwin

Hi All,

I thought I would just add this brief qualifying remark. Deaths and
casualties are somewhat different things. Casualties involve both dead,
wounded, and missing. Casualties also include non-battlefield accidents or
any loss of manpower requiring replacement. If I am wrong someone let me
know.

Tom   

-Original Message-
From: bmolloy
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 4/4/05 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: [OFF TOPIC] Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come

Hello Hakan,
 Again with respect, it is not well known that the
Pacific losses in WW2 were greater than in Europe. If that is the case
I'd
like to see your source for the statement. MacArthur was supreme
commander
in the Pacfic. I have given you his total losses throughout his campaign
which ranged all the way from his starting point in Australia to the
moment
he accepted the Japanese surrender in Tokyo Bay. I based these on
figures
given my William Manchester, one of the most respected American
biographers
of the postwar period. The precise wording of his  footnote, on page 639
of
the 1979 Hutchinson paperback edition American Caesar - Douglas
MacArthur,
reads American casualties in the Bulge were 106,502. MacArthur's
90,437.
The item to which this footnote refers reads: The Battle of the Bulge
(a
four week break-out by German armoured columns under General Von
Rundsted in
the Ardennes beginning December 16, 1944, and ending January 16, 1945)
...resulted in as many American casualties as were sustained in th
entire
Southwest Pacfic area campaign from Australia to Tokyo.
To look at a couple of single battles in Europe. At the battle of Anzio
in
Italy, where the Allies fought for nearly four months (January 22 to May
25,
1943) to secure a beachhead that placed them only 37 miles from Rome,
the
total American, i.e. not Allied, casualties were 72,306 GIs. In the
battle
of Normandy - June 6 to July 31, 1944 - Eisenhower lost 28,366 GIs.
The bottom line is that American losses in Europe were many, many times
those in the Pacific.
Please don't tell me that these figures are no indication. They are
exact
battlefield totals. I have given your chapter and verse for my sources.
If
you have figures to the contrary I would be very pleased to hear them,
and
of course the source.
Regards,
Bob.

- Original Message - 
From: Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: [OFF TOPIC] Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come



 Bob,

 Even those numbers are sub number and does not say anything. It is
 possible that my source was wrong, but do not give me number who
 says nothing to that effect. If my source is right and US losses were
 10% of allies total, around 10,000 US soldiers died in the Battle of
 Bulge. It is also something wrong with that US should have lost
 around 100,000 in Pacific and around 300,000 in Europe. When it is
 well known fact that the Pacific losses were higher than the European.

 Please try again and maybe you will find something more realistic.

 Hakan


 At 01:55 AM 4/4/2005, you wrote:
 Hello Hakan,
 
 (snip)
 
 
   The number you give is WWII losses, I was talking about the
   European part of WWII. This because we talked about taking
   out Hitler. US lost several times more in the Pacific, than they
   did in Europe.
 
With respect, the total allied losses under General
 MacArthur - Supreme Commander of the Pacific theatre of operation -
in
the
 entire campaign fought from Australia to his arrival in Tokyo were
90,437.
 In the Battle of the Bulge in France in 1944 - which was just a
single
 battle fought over a few weeks during the Second Front campaign - a
total
of
 106,502 allied soldiers died. (See: American Caesar: Douglas
MacArthur,
by
 William Manchester. Hutchinson 1979, page 639).
 
 Regards,
 Bob.


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[Biofuel] Liquid Coal

2005-04-05 Thread Luis Eduardo Puerto

Hello, I am interested in finding about Liquid Coal.  For what I hear, it seems 
it is environmentally friendly and cheaper to produce given the high oil prices 
today.I am located in Montreal, and if anybody knows about someone wortking on 
this technology I would be totally interested.  Thank you.  By the way, this is 
an awesome mailinglist!!!
Best regards, Luis.   



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RE: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come(Finally an eye is opening)

2005-04-05 Thread Klaus Sperlich

Keith,

You are not right by saying that he did not threaten anybody. You needed to
be there just for half a day and you would have seen what I am talking
about. People being killed by his regime --- not sure how to spell this
one. Over the years thousands of people. That is what I am talking about. So
there have been many other reasons why it is good that he is no longer in
this possition. Let us not just boil everything down to oil or WMD.

KS

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Keith Addison
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 7:51 AM
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Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come(Finally an eye is
opening)


This is great ... finally we are making sense. The WMD is not the issue.
This is what I have said all along. People miss the big picture. Suddam
Hussein was the weapon of mass destruction. 100% agreed.
KS

Sigh...

I suppose one man's sense is another man's idiocy, and to each his
own and all that, all jolly good and well... But in fact it's a
matter of what you support, what you go along with, what you accept
wihout questioning, what you oppose, to whose benefit and at whose
expense.

Which, I'm afraid, makes this idiocy, not sense. Lethal idiocy,
furthermore, with its hands drenched in blood.

Saddam threatened nobody, certainly not the US.

Keith


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Henri Naths
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come



Hakan,
 I would like to give a humble option here,
 ( Hakan wrote;...Criminal, established by the fact that we now know  that
Iraq were no WMD threat to US. )
We took out Hitler for the same reason, Him and Suddam Hussein were weapons
of mass destruction.
H.



- Original Message -
From: Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 31 March, 2005 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come


 
  Bob,
 
  You were right and I am wrong and I am glad that I did get
  a very good explanation on how Hubbert could be so right.
 
  It also explains why president Carter was so genuinely
  worried, when he developed his energy plan. He had the
  foresight to realize that Hubbert was right.
 
  It also explains why we see the surge in the genuine hate
  of Americans. It is the cost of aggressive and egoistic foreign
  policies, that resulted in about 10 more years of artificially
  low oil prices.
 
  All of this, ending up in an almost criminal behavior by the
  Bush administration. I say almost, because I do not want
  to be too crude. The legal aspect of being criminal, is very
  clearly established, Criminal, established by the fact that we
  now know  that Iraq were no WMD threat to US. By laying
  the responsibility at the feet of faulty US intelligence
  community, the Bush administration is trying deliberately
  to avoid their  legal responsibility. A kind of reversed side
  of the well known argument  it was not my fault, I was
  ordered to do it. LOL
 
  All of this supported by the America people, in a reelection
  of president Bush. I hear the false argument that  only 48%
  voted him in office. This argument is poor mathematics, I
  cannot get to this result, when Bush won with a more than
  3 million of the populous American vote. It was the first
  election of Bush, that he did not have a populous majority
  and he was put in office by the Courts.
 
  Hakan
 
 
  At 11:16 PM 3/31/2005, you wrote:
 All I know is what I read in the brief biography.  (and what I recall
from
 hearing about his work many years ago)
 
 Hakan Falk wrote:
 Bob,
 I stand corrected and the only excuse I have, is that I only brought
 forward a mistake that I read earlier. I remember that it was an
article
 about the hearings in US congress in mid 70'. Will however not do this
 mistake again, but do not despair, there are many others I will do and
 surely in my far from perfect English. -:)
 What was his field at Berkeley?
 Hakan

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[Biofuel] Fwd: [Bioenergy] Part 1 - Biogas from starch and sugar

2005-04-05 Thread Keith Addison



To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 00:16:05 +0700
Subject: [Bioenergy] Part 1 - Biogas from starch and sugar

PART 1 (this message has been cut to conform to the requirements of 
the listserv)


Dear Friends,

For those of you interested in compact, low cost digesters for 
bio-gas production, I have put together a compilation of information 
clipped from postings and personal correspondence with Dr. A. D. 
Karve of Pune, India.  Dr. Karve is the developer of an innovative 
system of bio-gas generation using any waste (or non-edible) starchy 
and sugary feedstocks.  This information is presented with Dr. 
Karve's permission to promote further development and dissemination 
of this new and evolving technology.


Robert Deutsch, Advisor
Community Sanitation and Recycling Organization
Phnom Penh, Kingdom of Cambodia
http://www.online.com.kh/users/csarowww.online.com.kh/users/csaro

=
Compact, low-cost digester for biogas from waste starch

Note: The following text was cut and pasted from a number of  public 
exchanges discussing an experimental method for production of 
bio-gas from various starchy and sugary feed stocks developed by 
Dr.A.D.Karve ( 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] ), 
President, Appropriate Rural Technology Institute, Pune, 
Maharashtra, India.  Dr. Karve was the winner of the prestigious 
Ashden award in 2002 for a different stove development and one of 
the four winners of the 2004 Shell Foundation stove dissemination 
grants.


These exchanges mostly took place on the REPP discussion group on 
energy efficient stoves over the last 18 months ( 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 
http://listserv.repp.org/mailman/listinfo/stoveshttp://listserv.repp 
.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves ).  Almost all of this text was culled 
from the posting by the main developer and promoter of the method, 
Dr. A.D. Karve, although quotes and questions from several others 
are included.  As these messages discuss the development of this new 
approach over a period of some 18 months, there are some obvious 
contradictions in the data reflecting the progressive nature of the 
research.

R. Deutsch, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]

= 
== 
Introduction
Preliminary studies indicated that the amount of biogas produced and 
the retention period varied from feedstock to feedstock and from 
season to season. Also, when the feedstock was changed from one form 
to another, the system took a few days to stabilise. Our studies 
also indicated that the gas yield could be increased by using 
combinations of feedstock materials. We are now looking at additives 
such as micronutrients, nitrogen, phosphorous compounds etc., which 
might bacterial action and yield more gas at a faster rate. Since 
the users would depend mainly upon locally available feedstock, 
field trials are essential to determine the retention periods and 
gas yield for different raw materials.
Many people in India, who read my article in a local newspaper, 
copied our design and have started to use this biogas plant in their 
households. A schoolgirl submitted a working model of it in a 
statewide science project competition and won the first prize in the 
state. A company supplying science equipment to educational 
institute wants to manufacture models (50 litre capacity) for supply 
to schools and colleges.
We have supplied 200 litre models to 10 voluntary agencies in 
different regions for demonstrating this technology to villagers in 
their respective areas. This model is meant for areas where the main 
diet is rice. This model yields enough gas to operate a pressure 
cooker to cook rice, beans, vegetables or meat for a family of five. 
In areas, where the main diet of the people consists of unleavened 
flat bread, somewhat like the tortilla, each piece of bread is made 
individually, and therefore the stove has to be in operation for a 
longer time. In such cases, we recommend the five hundred-litre 
model.


The fermenter vessel contains almost 200 litres of liquid. When you 
pour a few litres of feedstock slurry into the biogas plant, a 
corresponding quantity comes out of the outlet pipe. Because the 
material to be fed into the biogas plant consists mainly of starch 
and sugary material like sugarcane juice or fruit pulp, the slurry 
consists almost exclusively of water with a little suspended matter 
in it. In the case of cattle dung or municipal solid waste, the 
slurry is thicker, because the feedstock material contains a lot of 
cellulose and lignin, which are not as easily digestible as starch 
or sugar.


It may also be theoretically possible to produce alcohol and methane 
simultaneously, but we haven't looked for alcohol. The system 
however runs on vinegar, which is the oxidised product of alcohol. 
The system is sensitive to temperature. Here in Pune it 

[Biofuel] Fwd: [Bioenergy] Part 2 - Biogas from starch and sugar

2005-04-05 Thread Keith Addison



To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 00:12:35 +0700
Subject: [Bioenergy] Part 2 - Biogas from starch and sugar

PART 2 (this message has been cut to conform to the file size 
requirements of the listserv)


Production
This system uses starchy or sugary material as feedstock. 1kg of 
sugar or starch yields about 400 litres of methane, within a period 
of 6 to 8 hours. This quantity is enough for cooking one meal for 5 
to 6 persons. The biogas produced by this system contains 
theoretically about equal volumes of carbondioxide and methane, but 
in reality, it turned out to have less than 5% carbondioxide. This 
phenomenon is explained by the fact that carbon dioxide dissolves in 
the water in the fermenter vessel and diffuses out of it through the 
1 cm gap between the fermenter and the gas holder. 

We are getting about 250 g of methane per kg of flour. The values 
are approximations based on the volume of the gas and the crude 
analysis that was done in a chemistry lab. We are making 
arrangements with a government certified analytical lab for getting 
both the gas and the slurry analysed, and hope to come out with more 
reliable figures. The grain flour contains almost 10% protein and 
about half a percent of seed coat material, along with small 
quantities of fat in the embryo.


Mr. Malar wanted to know the production potential of oilcake to 
methane. The biodigester working on oilcake of Madhuka indica 
actually uses 30 to 32 kg of oilcake (and not 16) to produce about 
15 cubic meters of methane. The time taken by this reaction is just 
24 hours. The weight of methane produced would be about 5.5 kg, 
having a clorific value of roughly 10,000 KCal/kg.


[ From Nandu] Because of the residual oil and the high protein 
content of the oilcake, its calorific value is much greater than 
that of starch from cereal grains, rhizomes or tubers. As a result, 
this particular system is 1600 times as efficient as the 
conventional biogas plants. Another person, with whom we are 
collaborating, has a biogas plant producing daily 40 cubic meters of 
gas. He used to feed it daily with 1000kg dung, but now he is using 
daily a mixture of 200 kg cattle dung and 15 kg sorghum grain flour. 
He is reluctant to switch over completely to sorghum, as he feels 
that the bacteria may go on strike if they did not get their daily 
dose of dung. In his case, he replaces 800 kg dung by 15 kg flour 
and reduces the reaction time from 40 days to one day. He thus gets 
an efficiency that is 2000 times that of the traditional system. In 
the moving dome reactors that we use, the gas holder telescopes into 
the fermenter. Therefore, the total volume of the system is twice 
that of the volume of the gas that you expect to get from it.


Starch, sugar, powdered oilcake, grain flour or powdered seed of any 
plant, take about the same time to digest and also produce the same 
amount of gas. It is likely that our high methane content is a 
result of a reaction 4H2 + CO2 = CH4 + 2H2O. Because very little 
work has been done by scientists on use of high calorie feedstocks, 
there is quite a lot of speculation about the high methane content 
that we are getting.


Under our temperature and pressure, 1 cubic meter of biogas produced 
by a typical dung based biogas plant (50% each of CO2 and CH4) 
weighs about a kg. CH4 is about a third as heavy as CO2., therefore, 
in this case, 500 litres of CH4 would weigh about 250 g and the 
remaining 500 litres of CO2 would weigh about 750 g. I our case, we 
get almost pure methane, and it takes about 1 kg of flour to produce 
500 litres of it. Therefore we came to the conclusion that our 
biogas plant gives 250 g of methane per kg of feedstock. We haven't 
found much difference in different species of grain


I wish to correct the figures of oilcake used and biogas generated. 
It takes daily about 30 kg oilcake to produce 15 cubic meters of 
gas. But this gas consists of almost pure methane. It is not a case 
of co-generation, but direct fermentation. Cattle dung was used only 
initially as a source of bacteria, but for more than a month, they 
are using only oilcake.


I had never heard of the digestion accelerator, but would love to 
have it, if it is genuine. In any case, our biogas plant uses waste 
starch or sugar in any form. Thus spoilt bananas, oilcake of 
nonedible oilseed (e.g.castor or Jatropha), mango kernels, seed of 
practically any plant, rain damaged grain, etc. all work beautifully 
as feedstock. The material must be pulped or powdered. These 
substances are highly digestible and the methane production starts 
within a few hours after their introduction into the biogas plant. 
About 2 kg of dry matter in any of the above forms would yield about 
500 g of pure methane in about 8 hours. This period can be halved by 
heating the biogas plant.


Advantages
The short retention time and the small feedstock quantity enabled us 
to reduce the size of the gas plant. Our biogas plants 

Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come(Finally an eye is opening)

2005-04-05 Thread Keith Addison



John, I agree with what you say, but I did NOT write that!!!

Sheesh



Oops. Very sorry Keith. I know you didn't write that. That's what I 
get for hastily replying while I'm waiting for the coffee to finish 
brewing.


Again. Sorry about that.

jh


Take your emailer out and have it shot John. And have another cup of 
coffee! :-)


Regards

Keith

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Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel-powered Multi-fuel Camp Stove

2005-04-05 Thread Keith Addison



There are quality tests here:

Quality testing
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_vehicle.html#quality

As for stoves, it depends on the stove. I think some will and some 
won't, no matter how well you've made it. Learn to make the stuff 
properly (easy) and give it a try.


We have a pressure stove made to burn kerosene and it works very well 
with biodiesel. See this page, about two-thirds of the way down, 
under The pre-heating tank:


http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor10.html
Journey to Forever 90-litre processor

Best wishes

Keith



Hi all,

I am gearing up for my first test batch of biodiesel from virgin oil this
weekend.  A few have suggested that using a proven process and visual
observances should be satisfactory tests to verify that all went well.  Be
that as it may, I am still trying uncover any possible measures to help verify
my results.  So, I am wondering, has anyone used biodiesel in a backpacking
stove that is capable of burning petro-diesel?  Can I expect that if I use
biodiesel in one of these jobbies, should it burn the same as petro-diesel?
Should I expect any difference in flame color?  Would this sort of test be
completely insignificant?  Either way, I would certainly feel better the next
time I'm out on the trail if I was heating my dinner with bio 
instead of petro.


Thanks in advance,
Ken


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Re: [Biofuel] Re: killing or toppling leaders

2005-04-05 Thread Walt Patrick



Besides, it violates the Constitution, Article VI - The Supreme Law of the
Land


The only problem is that the Constitution ceased being the Supreme 
Law of the Land back in 1861. Now even little children swear allegiance, 
not to the Constitution, but to the flag  (the traditional symbol of the 
nation's military power - hence the expression to show the flag meaning 
to send in troops) and the republic for which that might stands. That one 
nation indivisible part is a direct repudiation of the Declaration of 
Independence's assertion that governments derive their lawful authority by 
the consent of the governed.


Walt
http://www.windward.org/


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RE: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come(Finally an eye is opening)

2005-04-05 Thread Keith Addison




Keith,

You are not right by saying that he did not threaten anybody. You needed to
be there just for half a day and you would have seen what I am talking
about. People being killed by his regime --- not sure how to spell this
one. Over the years thousands of people. That is what I am talking about. So
there have been many other reasons why it is good that he is no longer in
this possition. Let us not just boil everything down to oil or WMD.

KS


Uh-huh. And more than 100,000 Iraqis killed in the doing, with more 
Iraqi children starving now than before the Great Liberation (NOT!), 
and so on and on and on. That last  is quite an achievement, 
consdering the half million children killed by the sanctions before 
the invasion.


You fancy heroic surgery, do you Klaus? The operation was successful, 
though the patient died?


I mean, good grief, you actually believe this has anything to do with 
Saddam Hussein being a threat? Eyes opening? Are you kidding? Your 
eyes seem to be wide shut.


Why would the US - Washington - bother about some tin-pot dictator 
who allegedly murdered his people? They've supported, aided and 
abetted dozens and scores of them in the past, who've killed a lot 
more people than that.


As I said before in this thread, check out William Blum:

http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/41438/
An Interview with William Blum - The Granma Moses of Radical Writing

http://members.aol.com/superogue/homepage.htm
Rogue State: A Guide to the World's Only Superpower, by William Blum

http://members.aol.com/bblum6/American_holocaust.htm
Killing Hope: U.S. Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II, 
by William Blum


http://members.aol.com/bblum6/American_holocaust.htm
The American Holocaust

If you're not prepared to do that, and acknowledge it, and THEN 
explain how Saddam's domestic misdeeds explain all and show what you 
call the big picture, then do not claim that your eyes are open, 
because that will show that not only are they shut but that it's 
wilful.


Keith



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This is great ... finally we are making sense. The WMD is not the issue.
This is what I have said all along. People miss the big picture. Suddam
Hussein was the weapon of mass destruction. 100% agreed.
KS

Sigh...

I suppose one man's sense is another man's idiocy, and to each his
own and all that, all jolly good and well... But in fact it's a
matter of what you support, what you go along with, what you accept
wihout questioning, what you oppose, to whose benefit and at whose
expense.

Which, I'm afraid, makes this idiocy, not sense. Lethal idiocy,
furthermore, with its hands drenched in blood.

Saddam threatened nobody, certainly not the US.

Keith


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Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:56 PM
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Hakan,
 I would like to give a humble option here,
 ( Hakan wrote;...Criminal, established by the fact that we now know  that
Iraq were no WMD threat to US. )
We took out Hitler for the same reason, Him and Suddam Hussein were weapons
of mass destruction.
H.



- Original Message -
From: Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 31 March, 2005 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come


 
  Bob,
 
  You were right and I am wrong and I am glad that I did get
  a very good explanation on how Hubbert could be so right.
 
  It also explains why president Carter was so genuinely
  worried, when he developed his energy plan. He had the
  foresight to realize that Hubbert was right.
 
  It also explains why we see the surge in the genuine hate
  of Americans. It is the cost of aggressive and egoistic foreign
  policies, that resulted in about 10 more years of artificially
  low oil prices.
 
  All of this, ending up in an almost criminal behavior by the
  Bush administration. I say almost, because I do not want
  to be too crude. The legal aspect of being criminal, is very
  clearly established, Criminal, established by the fact that we
  now know  that Iraq were no WMD threat to US. By laying
  the responsibility at the feet of faulty US intelligence
  community, the Bush administration is trying deliberately
  to avoid their  legal responsibility. A kind of reversed side
  of the well known argument  it was not my fault, I was
  ordered to do it. LOL
 
  All of this supported by the America people, in a reelection
  of president Bush. I hear the false argument that  only 48%
  voted him in office. This argument is poor mathematics, I
  cannot get to this result, when Bush won with a more than
  3 million of the populous American vote. It was the first
  election of Bush, that he did 

Re: [Biofuel] Iraq Invasion - Age of Oil Scarcity

2005-04-05 Thread Rick Littrell



I think the thesis here is a bit of a reach.  At the time of the 
invasion the dollar was not in the shape it is now. In fact one reason 
for the decline is the cost of the war.   I still lean to the theory 
that Sadam was seen as a threat to the region and eventually would 
threaten US access to cheep oil by occupying his neighbors.  The Bush 
administration calculated that it would be cheaper to attack him rather 
than contain him.   It is a sobering thought that one of the geniuses 
that believed this is now head of the world bank.   As  far as the Euro 
vs the dollar,  The big energy companies don't care what they get paid 
in or by who.  At one point one of the companies that wants to drill in 
the Arctic admitted they'd probably sell the oil to Japan Rather than 
try to pipe it to the lower 48.


Rick

Scott wrote:


How many of us had an AHA moment when reading this article?

We now see the real reason for this illegal war [or at least one of the
reasons].

Saddam Hussein was about to be given a clean bill of health by the UN
inspection team beacuse he obviously didn't have WMD's.  He was then going
to open the spigots and start selling oil.  Not only was he going to sell
oil for Euros exacerbating the decline of the dollar, but that would also
have driven the global price of oil down.

Clearly, EXXON/Mobile, Chevron/Texaco, BP/Amoco et. al.  did not want the
price of oil to go down.

ExxonMobil Corporation reported the fourth quarter of 2004 as its highest
quarter ever...
http://www.npnweb.com/uploads/featurearticles/2005/MarketingStrategies/0503ms.asp


PEACE
Scott
- Original Message - 
 


Instead of inaugurating a new age of cheap oil, the Iraq war may become
   


known as the beginning of an era of scarcity.

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Re: [Biofuel] taking out Saddam

2005-04-05 Thread gustl

Hallo Darryl,

Not at all discounting any of those items you listed below
but definitely do not discount the radical religious
underpinning either.  ;o)

Happy Happy,

Gustl


On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 21:49:15 -0400
 Darryl McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Gustl, leave us some room for at least one of my pet
 theories.
 
 1) Oil multi-nationals wanted control of the Iraqi
 oilfields.  Couldn't leave the 
 graft and corruption to UN officials - that's a private
 sector area of expertise.
 
 2) U.S. needed a new theatre to try some new Pentagon
 toys.
 
 3) Saddam was lobbying to sell Iraqi oil (under U.N.
 program or otherwise) in Euros 
 instead of U.S. $, threatening the strength of the
 greenback.
 
 4) Saddam tried to kill George W.'s daddy.
 
  
  On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:28:13 -0500
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Darryl wrote:
   
   Clearly, taking out Saddam had nothing to do with
   weapons of mass destruction 
   (the U.N. inspectors had all but proven he had none
   before the U.S. found the 
   courage to invade), or 9/11 (the plans were in play
 in
   the U.S. Administration 
   *before* the planes hit the towers).  It was not
 about
   getting the oil, as it 
   was 
   available for sale on the world market prior to the
   invasion.  It wasn't about 
   Iraq 
   as a military threat in the region - the U.S. and
 U.K.
   were flying military and 
   surveillance over the country *daily* prior to the
   invasion.  It wasn't about 
   Al-
   Qaeda - they despised Saddam.  Hussein did not attack
 or
   threaten the U.S.
   
   So, Henri, in your opinion, why had the Bush White
 House
   really decided to 
   invade 
   Iraq - prior to 9/11?
   
   
   Could it be because the UN sanctions were failing and
   about to be lifted? The US was not about to allow the
   Saddam administration to get $10+ Billion in oil
 revenue
   each year knowing they would use it to resume their
   weapons programs. 
   
   No, they did not have weapons of mass destruction
 yet,
   but they did have the know how and planned to build
 them
   ASAP once the sanctions were lifted.
   
   Mike
   
   
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RE: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come(Finally an eye is opening)

2005-04-05 Thread Klaus Sperlich

Keith,

I am surprised that you are asking that, since this is known worldwide.

KS

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 2:13 PM
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opening)


And whose eye might that be Klaus? Not yours, I don't think.

Keith,

You are not right by saying that he did not threaten anybody. You needed to
be there just for half a day and you would have seen what I am talking
about. People being killed by his regime --- not sure how to spell this
one. Over the years thousands of people. That is what I am talking about.
So
there have been many other reasons why it is good that he is no longer in
this possition. Let us not just boil everything down to oil or WMD.

KS

Uh-huh. And more than 100,000 Iraqis killed in the doing, with more
Iraqi children starving now than before the Great Liberation (NOT!),
and so on and on and on. That last  is quite an achievement,
consdering the half million children killed by the sanctions before
the invasion.

You fancy heroic surgery, do you Klaus? The operation was successful,
though the patient died?

I mean, good grief, you actually believe this has anything to do with
Saddam Hussein being a threat? Eyes opening? Are you kidding? Your
eyes seem to be wide shut.

Why would the US - Washington - bother about some tin-pot dictator
who allegedly murdered his people? They've supported, aided and
abetted dozens and scores of them in the past, who've killed a lot
more people than that.

As I said before in this thread, check out William Blum:

http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/41438/
An Interview with William Blum - The Granma Moses of Radical Writing

http://members.aol.com/superogue/homepage.htm
Rogue State: A Guide to the World's Only Superpower, by William Blum

http://members.aol.com/bblum6/American_holocaust.htm
Killing Hope: U.S. Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II,
by William Blum

http://members.aol.com/bblum6/American_holocaust.htm
The American Holocaust

If you're not prepared to do that, and acknowledge it, and THEN
explain how Saddam's domestic misdeeds explain all and show what you
call the big picture, then do not claim that your eyes are open,
because that will show that not only are they shut but that it's
wilful.

Keith


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Keith Addison
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 7:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come(Finally an eye is
opening)


 This is great ... finally we are making sense. The WMD is not the issue.
 This is what I have said all along. People miss the big picture. Suddam
 Hussein was the weapon of mass destruction. 100% agreed.
 KS

Sigh...

I suppose one man's sense is another man's idiocy, and to each his
own and all that, all jolly good and well... But in fact it's a
matter of what you support, what you go along with, what you accept
wihout questioning, what you oppose, to whose benefit and at whose
expense.

Which, I'm afraid, makes this idiocy, not sense. Lethal idiocy,
furthermore, with its hands drenched in blood.

Saddam threatened nobody, certainly not the US.

Keith


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Behalf Of Henri Naths
 Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:56 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come
 
 
 
 Hakan,
  I would like to give a humble option here,
  ( Hakan wrote;...Criminal, established by the fact that we now know
that
 Iraq were no WMD threat to US. )
 We took out Hitler for the same reason, Him and Suddam Hussein were
weapons
 of mass destruction.
 H.
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 31 March, 2005 7:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come
 
 
  
   Bob,
  
   You were right and I am wrong and I am glad that I did get
   a very good explanation on how Hubbert could be so right.
  
   It also explains why president Carter was so genuinely
   worried, when he developed his energy plan. He had the
   foresight to realize that Hubbert was right.
  
   It also explains why we see the surge in the genuine hate
   of Americans. It is the cost of aggressive and egoistic foreign
   policies, that resulted in about 10 more years of artificially
   low oil prices.
  
   All of this, ending up in an almost criminal behavior by the
   Bush administration. I say almost, because I do not want
   to be too crude. The legal aspect of being criminal, is very
   clearly established, Criminal, established by the fact that we
   now know  that Iraq were no WMD threat to US. By laying
   the responsibility at the feet of faulty US intelligence
   community, the Bush administration is trying deliberately
   to avoid their  legal responsibility. A kind of reversed side
   

Re: [Biofuel] An Auto Industry Ad Leaves Critics Choking

2005-04-05 Thread Darryl McMahon

I'll accept this statement when the CEOs of the automakers backing the 
advertisements each agree to the following.

They, their spouses, children and grand children all agree to spend 24 hours in 
a 
confined space with the vehicle of my choice from their product line running 
for 
the entire period.  Extended fuelling will be provided as necessary.  Provided 
they 
all leave in good health, I will accept that their vehicle is virtually 
emission-
free.

Darryl McMahon

Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted:

 http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/03/21/news/auto.html
 An Auto Industry Ad Leaves Critics Choking
 By Danny Hakim
 The New York Times
 
 Tuesday 22 March 2005
 
 Detroit - Toyota, Ford, BMW and several other automakers are 
 financing an advertising campaign aimed at politicians that asserts 
 that automobiles are virtually emission-free.
 
 The campaign is part of an effort by a broad coalition of 
 automakers to present their vehicles as environmentally benign at a 
 time when the coalition is suing California to block a new regulation 
 to curb global warming emissions and continuing to lobby in 
 Washington against tougher fuel-economy regulations.
 
 A print version of the ad has appeared in journals aimed at 
 legislators like Roll Call, Congress Daily and Congressional 
 Quarterly, as well as in the industry trade publication Automotive 
 News, according to the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers, the 
 lobbying group behind the campaign.
 
 The ads have sparked a campaign by the Union of Concerned 
 Scientists, an environmentalist group that says its efforts have 
 generated 20,000 complaints asking the Federal Trade Commission to 
 investigate whether the industry is making misleading claims.
 
 While regulations have indeed forced automakers to greatly 
 improve emissions of smog-forming pollutants, the ads essentially 
 ignore greenhouse gases like carbon dioxide as an automotive 
 emission. The ads appear to contradict some automakers' own 
 statements about rising levels of greenhouse gas emissions from cars 
 and trucks. Smog-forming emissions remain a public health issue, 
 according to environmental and consumer groups, as the number of 
 vehicles continues to increase.
 
 Our advertising practices division and our enforcement division 
 are both aware of the ad and the campaign by UCS, Mitch Katz, a 
 spokesman for the trade commission, said, referring to the Union of 
 Concerned Scientists. We are evaluating the complaints we've 
 received right now.
 
 He declined to say how many complaints the commission had received.
 
 The alliance includes most major automakers: Toyota, General 
 Motors, Ford, DaimlerChrysler, Mazda, BMW, Mitsubishi, Porsche and 
 Volkswagen.
 
 The ad shows a picture of a toddler in a car eating a Popsicle.
 
 Your car may never be spotless, but it's 99 percent cleaner than 
 you think, the ad says. Autos manufactured today are virtually 
 emission-free. And that's a dramatic improvement over models from 
 just 30 years ago.
 
 Gloria Bergquist, a spokeswoman for the alliance, said that the 
 ad's use of the term virtually emission-free should be understood 
 to refer only to emissions classified as pollutants by the 
 Environmental Protection Agency.
 
 Whether to consider greenhouse gases as pollutants is a 
 politically charged issue. The Clinton administration determined 
 carbon dioxide to be a pollutant, but the Bush administration 
 reversed the decision. Several states and environment groups are 
 suing to force the Environmental Protection Agency to regulate carbon 
 dioxide emissions as pollutants.
 
 But David Friedman, research director of the Union of Concerned 
 Scientists' clean vehicles program, said the advertisement itself 
 made no such distinction - it simply called vehicles virtually 
 emission-free.
 
 It reminds you of the cigarette makers, he said. They're 
 trying to hide the harmful emissions coming from their vehicles.
 
 Though some cars on the road today are considered to be emitting 
 roughly 99 percent fewer smog-forming particles than cars did in the 
 pre-regulatory 1960s, Bergquist said the statement could not be 
 broadly applied to all new cars and trucks until regulations of such 
 emissions take effect by 2010.
 
 Automotive emissions of greenhouse gases, however, have been 
 rising for two reasons: The number of vehicles is increasing and 
 average fuel economy has declined since the late 1980s because of 
 surging sales of sport utility vehicles and big pickups.
 
 Many scientists have raised potentially serious health concerns 
 related to global warming, though there are dissenters. Most major 
 automakers have said that they do take the issue of reducing global 
 warming emissions quite seriously. In DaimlerChrysler's 2004 
 environmental report, for instance, the company's chief executive, 
 JŸrgen Schrempp, said in an opening 

[Biofuel] ON THE RAMPAGE

2005-04-05 Thread Keith Addison



 ON THE RAMPAGE
   Corporate Predators and the Destruction of Democracy
By Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman

Rampant corporate crime. Pollution. Cancer. Sweatshops. Dangerous
working conditions. Wealth disparities. Corrupted politics. In a
compilation of compelling snapshots from two of the leading reporters on
business power, On the Rampage documents the price we pay for living in
a corporate-dominated society -- and provides energizing accounts of
individuals and movements resisting, and triumphing over, concentrated
corporate power.

Available at local bookstores or from Common Courage Press,
1-800-497-3207,
http://www.commoncouragepress.com/index.cfm?action=bookbookid=214

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On the Rampage is a cool, clear and sprightly written down-to-earth
series of stories about how the relentless greed and power of
corporations control human beings here and abroad. Mokhiber and Weissman
demonstrate how to blend unassailable evidence with irresistible
rhetoric.
-- Ralph Nader

Mokhiber and Weissman again strike at the heart of corporate power and
malfeasance in this excellent book, On The Rampage. These journalists
uphold the time-honored and now all-too-rare tradition of dogged
muckracking, exposing corporate criminals and their bought politicians
in the spirit of Ida Tarbell, Lincoln Steffens, and I.F. Stone.

-- Amy Goodman, Democracy Now!

On the Rampage treats readers to 71 trenchant essays on corporate
soulessness from two of America's leading reporters on corporate
misbehavior.
-- Representative Dennis Kucinich

Mokhiber and Weissman are veteran trackers of the corporate beasts that
pillage the globe. In On the Rampage, they are on the tail of GM, Exxon,
Philip Morris and other snakes, showing how they prey on workers, the
environment and consumers. To escape from being snack food for the
corporate godzillas, We the People needs to get On the Rampage.

-- Jim Hightower, radio commentator and author,
   Let's Stop Beating Around the Bush

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In their follow-up to the acclaimed Corporate Predators, Mokhiber and
Weissman deride a criminal justice system that sentences a man to 16
years for stealing a Snickers Bar -- while letting the perpetrators of
one of the largest antitrust conspiracies in histories off with a few
months behind bars.

They decry corporate welfare recipients for stealing money from kids --
extorting tax breaks from cities and states that come at the expense of
schools.

They shed light on the brutality of corporate globalization, showing how
the privatization and marketization of everything from healthcare to
drinking water is depriving people around the globe of access to life's
essentials.

They denounce the spread of the corporate culture into every nook and
cranny of our lives -- junk food pushers in the schools, tort deformers
educating judges, oil companies cleaning up public museums, big
companies of all stripes taking over public interest groups -- and show
how the corporate culture is degrading our politics, values and
community life.

They analyze the corporate beast: its unique legal immunities and
privileges, its unnatural assets (for example, perpetual life, inability
to be jailed), the underpinnings of its power, and its vulnerabilities.

And they offer inspirational accounts of resistance to and triumph over
concentrated corporate power.

Does the citizen upsurge have the staying power and cohesiveness to go
beyond street protests and campaigns against particular business
abuses? they ask. While the answer isn't clear, they conclude, the
citizen uprising is our best hope to rescue our lives, and our planet,
from the corporate grip.

To order, visit your local bookstore, or click on
http://www.commoncouragepress.com/index.cfm?action=bookbookid=214 or
call toll-free at 1-800-497-3207

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