Re: [Biofuel] Microbes in BD
Hello Thomas, i'm curious about the sediment... Do you have a picture or fotograph you can send to me? Thanks Citando Thomas Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jim, I appreciate the reply. I am getting some of the antimicrobial stuff you suggested. Until then I'm experimenting. I have found that a very small amount of the sediment added to 250ml of clear BD cloudy BD w. increasing sediment. This is what makes me reasonably certain I have a microbe. This morning I heated a 10L sample of the contaminated BD to 125F (drying temp.) and another 10L sample to 150F. If sediment from these samples does not grow in clear, uncontaminated BD, then I will assume that the contaminant is killed/deactivated by these temps. I'll forego using the biocide unless the problem rears its ugly head in my car or heating system. I'll also be able to decontaminate my wash tank w. boiling water. Good day to you, Tom - Original Message - From: JJJN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 10:31 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Microbes in BD Tom, Fungus is common in any regular diesel fuel and can be in any biofuel as well. It is not bad other than you will plug filters much faster and it can cause corrosion if it is the right type. Nothing is safe if it is not 100% dry (free water that is). All parts stores sell an anti fungal additive and its also an anti oxidant. If you store the bio for long periods ( like winter) then you might consider adding it to your stored fuel. It is not real expensive if used as directed. Keep in mind that after it is added to Biodiesel, the Biodiesel is no longer biodegradable and non toxic to the same degree that it was. So for this reason I like to add it to the truck not the freshly made stuff that I will use in a week or two. I don't know if fuel makers treat Diesel with it at the refinery or not, I wouldst think they would with the spill hazards it creates. ( It is toxic to fish in very small quantities) Any one got a good way of disinfecting a reactor ?? The best of luck! Jim Thomas Kelly wrote: Hello All, I suspect I have microbes in my recent batches of BD. After washing, I drained the BD and allowed it to settle. After a few days I noticed a whispy sediment on the bottom of the containers of fuel. I gave the batch another wash and cleaned my 5 gal. settling containers. The wash water was clear, but again the whispy sediment appeared after a few days. My next batch seemed to wash very well, but again, a whispy sediment can be observed after the BD is drained and allowed to settle. I brought a sample of the sediment to a local high school. We prepared a stained slide and observed a multitude of tiny uniformly-shaped spheres at 400X. I put 1 drop of the sediment in a glass jar w. 250ml of clear, uncontaminated BD and put 250ml of the same clear BD in an identical glass jar (control). Less than 24 hrs. later the innoculated jar is slightly cloudy w. a very fine sediment on the bottom and the control jar continues to be clear. - I started using WVO that includes some tallow. I noticed a post from JJN on 3/17/06 Re: Tallow: I am treating all my bio with both an anti fungal and anti oxidant treatment since I use tallow alot. 1. Any thoughts/similar experience? 2. If it's microbes of some sort, should I treat the fuel w. a diesel anti-microbial and then filter it? Will a 10 micron filter remove these critters? 3 . If microbes are present, do I have to be concerned w. metabolic byproducts screwing up the fuel? 4. If not microbes, what's the whispy stuff? Thanks, Tom ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Re: [Biofuel] Methanol-powered artificial muscles start to flex
Source: http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn8859feedId=online-news_rss20 Methanol-powered artificial muscles start to flex 19:00 16 March 2006 NewScientist.com news service Zeeya Merali Methanol-powered artificial muscles have been created by researchers aiming to create battery-free robotic limbs and prosthetics. One day you could find yourself sitting in a bar next to a humanoid robot, who is taking a shot of vodka to give himself the energy to go to work, jokes Ray Baughman, a nanotechnologist at the University of Texas at Dallas, US. The most athletic robots around today are chained to a power source, so they can't move about freely, he explains. In an effort to remove the robots from their battery-shackles, Baughman and colleagues have designed two types of artificial muscle that also act as fuel cells â converting chemical energy to mechanical movement. The first type of muscle is made from a nickel-titanium shape-memory wire coated in a platinum catalyst. When fumes of methanol, hydrogen and oxygen pass over the platinum coating, they react, releasing heat that warms the wire, making it contract. When the flow of fuel is stopped, the wire expands and returns to its original length. The wire muscle can generate 100 times the force of a natural muscle of the same size, says Baughman. Energy saver The team's second artificial muscle is made from sheets of carbon nanotubes, coated in a catalyst. It is not yet as powerful as the wire muscle, but could potentially overtake it, he says. As the fuel reacts with oxygen above the surface of the nanotube sheet, it releases a charge that make the sheet expand. The big advantage of the nanotube muscle is that it can also act as a capacitor, storing up electric energy it does not immediately need for later use, Baughman explains. The team are now working out exactly how to control the flow of fuel in practical prosthetic applications. Baughman believes that people with limited finger or arm mobility could control an artificial muscle using very slight movements to open and shut a valve to release the fuel. A second challenge for the group is ensuring that the muscles do not overheat as they contract, adds Baughman. âIt is very clever that the muscle itself is the fuel cell,â says Siegmar Roth, an artificial muscle expert at the Max Planck Institute in Stuttgart, Germany. âThis will be very good for medical applications because you canât put high voltages into humans, but these work on low voltages.â Reference: Science (vol 311, p 1580) ___ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] [SPAM] Re: The Proposed Iranian Oil Bourse
How are people supposed to get through the Bush years without drugs?Oh yeah, religion. That's one drug that REALLY makes you stupid.On 20Mar, 2006, at 2:39 AM, Keith Addison wrote:"Today's big news is the drug war. The president says so, so television says so, newspapers and magazines say so, and the public says so." T ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Two biofuel plants planned in Kuantan, Malaysia
Two biofuel plants planned in KuantanBy ROSLINA MOHAMADWong Soon FahKUANTAN: Two companies have expressed interest to set up biodiesel plants in the Kuantan Port Industrial Area (KPIA), with production expected to begin next year. Kuantan Port Consortium Sdn Bhd (KPC) chief operation officer Wong Soon Fah said the companies' decision to locate their businesses in KPIA was partly due to their wish to be close to an export point to save on logistics costs. “Some industries are good to be located in such an area as they need to export large volumes or in bulk. KPIA offers facilities such as direct pipeline and tank farms,'' Wong told StarBiz. KPC, which operates the Kuantan Port and manages KPIA, looked forward to having such investments as this would be good for the local economy, encourage downstream industries and value-added activities, he said. He added that KPC's revenue and Kuantan Port's throughput would increase as well. Wong said the companies, one local and the other foreign, would each produce 100,000 tonnes annually. “The plants will take up 4ha each and the biodiesel production will be the first in the East Coast,'' he added. Wong said biodiesel had become increasingly popular in the past few years and that in Malaysia, it would be fully commercialised and ready for general use from Jan 1, 2006. “KPIA has strong advantages in terms of availability of palm oil, downstream oleochemical activities as well as other raw materials to produce biodiesel,” he said. Wong said Kuantan Port was prepared for potential biodiesel investors and had a proven record in promoting investments in petrochemical and palm oil. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Oil shortage threatens military
... the military needs to take major steps to increase energy efficiency, make a massive expansion in renewable energy purchases, and move toward a vast increase in renewable distributed generation, including photovoltaic, solar thermal, microturbines, and biomass energy sources. - U.S. Army Corps of Engineers A sustainable energy future requires great reductions in energy use, great improvements in energy efficiency, and decentralisation of supply to the local-economy level, along with the use of all ready-to-use renewable energy technologies in combination as local circumstances require. - Journey to Forever LOL! - Keith --- http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/060315/15natsec.htm USNews.com: Nation World: Oil shortage threatens military By Marianne Lavelle Posted 3/15/06 * Energy Trends - U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (PDF) http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/graphics/ace060315.pdf A grim view of the nation's energy future, and its implications for the military, emerges in a just released report by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. The days of inexpensive, convenient, abundant energy sources are quickly drawing to a close, says the report, titled Energy Trends and Their Implications for U.S. Army Installations. It concludes that at the current rate of consumption and production decline, the lifetime of proven domestic oil reserves is only 3.4 years. It projects the lifetime of proven worldwide oil reserves at 41 years, but with declining availability, noting that Saudi Arabia - home to the bulk of those reserves - has not increased production in three years. The report was completed in September but was not released publicly until a request was made earlier this week by Rep. Roscoe Bartlett, a Maryland Republican who has made several speeches in recent months warning that the world is in the grip of peak oil - a time of declining production and rapidly escalating prices. The theory is highly controversial, and the oil industry maintains that there are abundant untapped resources, although admittedly more expensive to develop than has historically been the case. In a speech on the House floor Tuesday night, Bartlett quoted extensively from the report. The Army operates in a domestic and world energy situation that is highly uncertain, the report says. Even its outlook on nuclear energy, a key component of Bush administration policy, is not positive. Our current throwaway nuclear cycle will consume the world reserve of low-cost uranium in about 20 years, the report says. The researchers conclude that the military needs to take major steps to increase energy efficiency, make a massive expansion in renewable energy purchases, and move toward a vast increase in renewable distributed generation, including photovoltaic, solar thermal, microturbines, and biomass energy sources. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fuel Lines for a VW
Check with the Folks at http://www.tdiclub.com/ They know more about Diesels than most anyone. Mark From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas KellySent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 6:52 AMTo: biofuelSubject: [Biofuel] Fuel Lines for a VW Hello to All, A friend started using BD100 in his VW pickup. It is now "oozing" fuel through the fuel lines. He has been unable to find a source for viton fuel lines, but has located a supplier of PTFE (a flouropolymer). The marine supplies dealer says PTFE "is virtually inert to all chemicals ... organic solvents do not attack PTFE." Can these PTFE fuel lines be used w. BD? If not, does anyone know a source for viton fuel lines? Thanks, Tom ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Global warming, oceans warming up, earth's core climate changes
I ran into something new (to me) recently on the topic of global warming, CO2 and the greenhouse gas issue that I decided to follow up on today to see if there was anything to it. I have spent an entire day reading and searching the internet on the topic and here are the best links to what I found listed below. But first let me try to briefly introduce and summarize the highlights of what I found. The main author claims that there is substantial evidence that recent fluctuations (increases) in the amount of heat released to the earth's oceans from the earths core has heated the oceans, raising their temperature and thus resulting in the rapid release of CO2 to the atmosphere (due to equilibrium shifts in CO2 solubility as a function of ocean water temperature) as well as rapid losses of ice at both polar ice caps. They are claiming that thermodynamic analysis of the changes in temperature of the oceans and the atmosphere combined with the huge difference in heat capacity of the ocean (liquid water) versus the atmosphere (gases) suggest that the build up of CO2 in the atmosphere is not the major cause of global warming but that the earths core is cyclically heating the oceans and forcing the oceans to release CO2 to the atmosphere. The difference in heat capacity between liquid water and air is several orders of magnitude (liquid water has about 1000 times the heat capacity of air). A lot of their thermodynamic and chemical equilibrium arguments make a lot of sense to me. If they are correct and if their predictions of where the weather is headed as a result is also correct ( see climate and ice ages at http://nov55.com/cli.html and super storms at http://www.unknowncountry.com/edge/quickwatch/ and the Day after Tomorrow http://www.cambodianonline.net/earth04014.htm ), we need to do a lot more than just reduce CO2 emissions. You can find the rest of the details in the links below. Theory on Hot Spot Rotating within the Earth at: http://nov55.com/thry.html Heat in the Earth's Core at: http://nov55.com/heat.html A page with a lot more interesting links: http://www.cambodianonline.net/homeearthchanges.htm Glacial Cycles and Astronomical Forcing at: http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/277/5323/215?rbfvrToken=9b3e6a97683c69e3ba0c9f60006b6165cdf21028 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Oil shortage threatens military
Nice Keith.Oh...wait a minute! This must be what they mean by MILITARY INTELLIGENCE!:-)MikeKeith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:"... the military needs to take major steps to increase energy efficiency, make a "massive expansion" in renewable energy purchases, and move toward a vast increase in renewable distributed generation, including photovoltaic, solar thermal, microturbines, and biomass energy sources." - U.S. Army Corps of Engineers"A sustainable energy future requires great reductions in energy use, great improvements in energy efficiency, and decentralisation of supply to the local-economy level, along with the use of all ready-to-use renewable energy technologies in combination as local circumstances require." - Journey to ForeverLOL!- Keith---http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/060315/15natsec.htmUSNews.com: Nation World:Oil shortage threatens militaryBy Marianne LavellePosted 3/15/06* Energy Trends - U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (PDF)http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/graphics/ace060315.pdfA grim view of the nation's energy future, and its implications for the military, emerges in a just released report by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. [snip]___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Respond on coal gassification
Hi Alex, If you have no objection I'd like to piggyback on Ezio's request and put my hand up too. My queries are based not so much on process as outcomes. Process is simply heat coal, get gas. What it costs, both commercially and environmentally, and what the range of products are determines the why. So here goes: 1. What is the cost per BTU (or whatever other energy unit you chose) of coal-derived gas as opposed to a) diesel and b) petrol? 2. What is the cost per litre of coal-derived petrol vis a vis that of oil-derived petrol? 3. Is it possible to use the coal gas directly in an internal combustion engine without major conversion costs? 4. If yes to the above question how many kilometres per litre (or equivalent unit of volume) of gas? 5. What other commercially useful products can be derived from the Sasol process? 6. How much air, water and soil pollution is generated on site by Sasol. 4. Sasol - South Africa's massive oil from coal scheme - was an emergency measure set up by the Apartheid regime to weather oil sanctions. It performed that function superbly. At the time it was mooted, the country had an estimated 350 years of good quality coal supply and I understand further reserves have since been discovered. However, is it today commercially viable i.e. capable of making a profit without government support? Thanks regards, Bob. - Original Message - From: Alex Mashego [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 9:51 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Respond on coal gassification hi i think i might be able to help you on this one, i am working for sasol in south africa and coal gassification is one of our major processes, now if you can tell me exactly what you need to know i can organise that information for you. thanks Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using the program Aspen, I view some possibilities about equation Redlich-Kwong and I think that it's betteer to analysed the system with Gibbs Free Energy. I need some helps, how to implementation e miscellaneous gas, that produced from e gassifier. Who can help me? Thanks a lot. Best regards Ezio ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] climate of dissent
Hi all, some notable articles, regards tallex Climate of dissent Sunday, March 19, 2006 James Hansen, a top NASA scientist and former Ridgewood resident, touched off a political ruckus in January when he told The New York Times that the Bush administration was trying to censor his public comments about global warming. Hansen has been warning about the catastrophic potential of climate change for three decades, often against the wishes of Republican White Houses that dismissed the problem or advocated a slower approach to reining in greenhouse gases. The censorship charges sparked similar complaints from other government scientists and prompted NASA's administrator to promise scientific openness at the agency. A 24-year-old press officer at NASA, who had been keeping tabs on Hansen, resigned after admitting that he lied on a resume about his college degree. Hansen sat down with Record Staff Writer Alex Nussbaum earlier this month to discuss the politics of science, the Bush administration and why he thinks humanity is running out of time to prevent an ecological crisis. THE RECORD: How have things changed since you went public with your censorship claims? HANSEN: For the moment, I'm just ignoring that issue because NASA has now appointed a committee to decide on what communications policies should be, and they haven't finished deliberations. The NASA administrator has said everything right. He even said if you want to say something related to policy, that's OK as long as you say it's your own opinion, it's not NASA policy or position. So I hope that NASA will be a good example. Some of the other agencies are even more strict, and in that there may have been some progress. In the case of NOAA [the National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration], they have publicly taken a position that there's no relation between global warming and hurricane intensity and told their scientists they weren't supposed to dispute that, which is not a very good scientific approach. After I raised that issue, then they did change their position and took off their Web site the official position about the relationship. So that's progress. In my more than 30 years of government, I've never seen such constraints on communication between scientists and the public. At EPA, for example, there's very strong constraint on communication, which I find objectionable because I feel that we're paid by the taxpayers, and we should be free to communicate. Responsible scientific opinions should not be decided by bureaucrats; they should be decided by scientists. As long as you make clear that you're not setting policy or attempting to set policy, then I don't think we should be so tightly constrained. You said you were threatened with dire consequences if you publicly disputed White House policies. What do you think that meant? That was said by one of the public affairs people. I'm sure that the new policy will not allow that sort of pressure. It was getting out of hand. In my opinion it was coming from the top. The inaccurate impression that was eventually left by The New York Times stories was that this was created by a 24-year-old. But the attempted constraints on me were really coming from his bosses. The highest levels in public affairs, the top two people, are both political appointees. It should be interesting to see how the approach will change with the new policies, which should be decided on in the next few weeks. Your outspokenness on climate change has put you at odds with political superiors for decades. Why have you continued to speak out? We're really near what I call the tipping point or point of no return. We've already had 1.4 degrees Fahrenheit of global warming, and there's another degree that's in the pipeline, without any further increase in greenhouse gases, because it takes the system time to respond because of the thermal inertia of the ocean. There's still more in the pipeline because of the infrastructure that exists vehicles and power plants. Even if we decide that we should slow down the emissions, there's no way to stop them on a dime. So there's probably at least 1 degree Fahrenheit additional in the pipeline. I think that's the highest that we dare let the global temperature go. That would make 3.5 degrees, and that's as warm as it has been in the last million years. If you follow a business-as-usual scenario with continuing to increase the emissions the way we have in recent years, the warming would be 5 degrees Fahrenheit on top of the 1.4, and that would be as warm as it has been since the middle Pliocene, which is 3 million years ago. Three million years ago, the sea level was at least 25 meters [about 80 feet] higher, and there was no sea ice in the Arctic. Polar bears and seals and other wildlife there that depend on the ice would be pushed off the planet. There's a lot of other plant and animal
Re: [Biofuel] Global warming, oceans warming up, earth's core climate changes
You mean we can't blame the right-wing and SUV crowd anymore? On Mar 20, 2006, at 12:26 PM, Mike McGinness wrote: I ran into something new (to me) recently on the topic of global warming, CO2 and the greenhouse gas issue that I decided to follow up on today to see if there was anything to it. I have spent an entire day reading and searching the internet on the topic and here are the best links to what I found listed below. But first let me try to briefly introduce and summarize the highlights of what I found. The main author claims that there is substantial evidence that recent fluctuations (increases) in the amount of heat released to the earth's oceans from the earths core has heated the oceans, raising their temperature and thus resulting in the rapid release of CO2 to the atmosphere (due to equilibrium shifts in CO2 solubility as a function of ocean water temperature) as well as rapid losses of ice at both polar ice caps. They are claiming that thermodynamic analysis of the changes in temperature of the oceans and the atmosphere combined with the huge difference in heat capacity of the ocean (liquid water) versus the atmosphere (gases) suggest that the build up of CO2 in the atmosphere is not the major cause of global warming but that the earths core is cyclically heating the oceans and forcing the oceans to release CO2 to the atmosphere. The difference in heat capacity between liquid water and air is several orders of magnitude (liquid water has about 1000 times the heat capacity of air). A lot of their thermodynamic and chemical equilibrium arguments make a lot of sense to me. If they are correct and if their predictions of where the weather is headed as a result is also correct ( see climate and ice ages at http://nov55.com/cli.html and super storms at http://www.unknowncountry.com/edge/quickwatch/ and the Day after Tomorrow http://www.cambodianonline.net/earth04014.htm ), we need to do a lot more than just reduce CO2 emissions. You can find the rest of the details in the links below. Theory on Hot Spot Rotating within the Earth at: http://nov55.com/thry.html Heat in the Earth's Core at: http://nov55.com/heat.html A page with a lot more interesting links: http://www.cambodianonline.net/homeearthchanges.htm Glacial Cycles and Astronomical Forcing at: http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/277/5323/215? rbfvrToken=9b3e6a97683c69e3ba0c9f60006b6165cdf21028 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/ biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Fw: Bush Didn't Bungle Iraq, You Fools
I don't know if I agree with this assessment. I like the onewhere George did it to keep oil prices in terms of $US since the dollar is very weak otherwise. Of course there are several other reasons as well, but imo the dollar propping seems to be most reasonable. Anyway, we have aWhite Housethat thinks war is the only way to guard the almighty dollar. I don't think there is any intelligent creative thinking going on in the Bush adminstration. They have this huge bloated hammer and they only see every problem as nails. Peace, D. Mindock http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=483Bush Didn't Bungle Iraq, You FoolsTHE MISSION WAS INDEED ACCCOMPLISHEDby Greg Palastfor The Guardian20 March 2006Get off it. All the carping, belly-aching and complaining about GeorgeBush's incompetence in Iraq, from both the Left and now the Right, isjust dead wrong.On the third anniversary of the tanks rolling over Iraq's border, mostof the 59 million Homer Simpsons who voted for Bush are beginning todoubt if his mission was accomplished.But don't kid yourself -- Bush and his co-conspirator, Dick Cheney,accomplished exactly what they set out to do. In case you've forgottenwhat their real mission was, let me remind you of White House spokesmanAri Fleisher's original announcement, three years ago, launching of whathe called, "Operation Iraqi Liberation."O.I.L. How droll of them, how cute. Then, Karl Rove made the gigglingboys in the White House change it to "OIF" -- Operation Iraqi Freedom.But the 101st Airborne wasn't sent to Basra to get its hands on Iraq'sOIF."It's about oil," Robert Ebel told me. Who is Ebel? Formerly the CIA'stop oil analyst, he was sent by the Pentagon, about a month before theinvasion, to a secret confab in London with Saddam's former oil ministerto finalize the plans for "liberating" Iraq's oil industry. In London,Bush's emissary Ebel also instructed Ibrahim Bahr al-Ulum, the man thePentagon would choose as post-OIF oil minister for Iraq, on the correctmethod of disposing Iraq's crude.And what did the USA want Iraq to do with Iraq's oil? The answer willsurprise many of you: and it is uglier, more twisted, devilish anddevious than anything imagined by the most conspiracy-addicted blogger.The answer can be found in a 323-page plan for Iraq's oil secretlydrafted by the State Department. Our team got a hold of a copy; how,doesn't matter. The key thing is what's inside this thick Bush diktat: adirective to Iraqis to maintain a state oil company that will "enhanceits relationship with OPEC."Enhance its relationship with OPEC??? How strange: the government of theUnited States ordering Iraq to support the very OPEC oil cartel which isstrangling our nation with outrageously high prices for crude.Specifically, the system ordered up by the Bush cabal would keep a lidon Iraq's oil production -- limiting Iraq's oil pumping to the tightquota set by Saudi Arabia and the OPEC cartel.There you have it. Yes, Bush went in for the oil -- not to get MORE ofIraq's oil, but to prevent Iraq producing TOO MUCH of it.You must keep in mind who paid for George's ranch and Dick's bunker: BigOil. And Big Oil -- and their buck-buddies, the Saudis -- don't makemoney from pumping more oil, but from pumping LESS of it. The lower thesupply, the higher the price.It's Economics 101. The oil industry is run by a cartel, OPEC, and whateconomists call an "oligopoly" -- a tiny handful of operators who makemore money when there's less oil, not more of it. So, every time the"insurgents" blow up a pipeline in Basra, every time Mad Mahmoud inTehran threatens to cut supply, the price of oil leaps. And Dick andGeorge just LOVE it.Dick and George didn't want more oil from Iraq, they wanted less. I knowsome of you, no matter what I write, insist that our President and hisVeep are on the hunt for more crude so you can cheaply fill your familyHummer; that somehow, these two oil-patch babies are concerned that theprice of gas in the USA is bumping up to $3 a gallon.No so, gentle souls. Three bucks a gallon in the States (and a quid alitre in Britain) means colossal profits for Big Oil, and that makesDick's ticker go pitty-pat with joy. The top oily-gopolists, the fivelargest oil companies, pulled in $113 billion in profit in 2005 --compared to a piddly $34 billion in 2002 before Operation IraqiLiberation. In other words, it's been a good war for Big Oil.As per Plan Bush, Bahr Al-Ulum became Iraq's occupation oil minister;the conquered nation "enhanced its relationship with OPEC;" and theprice of oil, from Clinton peace-time to Bush war-time, shot up 317%.In other words, on the third anniversary of invasion, we can say theattack and occupation is, indeed, a Mission Accomplished. However, itwasn't America's mission, nor the Iraqis'. It was an MissionAccomplished for OPEC and Big Oil.www.GregPalast.com.Palast returns to the pages of the Guardian today with this column.Catch his
Re: [Biofuel] Global warming, oceans warming up, earth's core climate changes
Mike McGinness wrote: I ran into something new (to me) recently on the topic of global warming, CO2 and the greenhouse gas issue that I decided to follow up on today to see if there was anything to it. I have spent an entire day reading and searching the internet on the topic and here are the best links to what I found listed below. But first let me try to briefly introduce and summarize the highlights of what I found. The main author claims that there is substantial evidence that recent fluctuations (increases) in the amount of heat released to the earth's oceans from the earths core has heated the oceans, raising their temperature and thus resulting in the rapid release of CO2 to the atmosphere (due to equilibrium shifts in CO2 solubility as a function of ocean water temperature) as well as rapid losses of ice at both polar You can certainly color me skeptical. I only looked at the nov55.com site for climate analysis and the rotating hot-spot. That said, the idea that CO2 is being added to the atmosphere by the warming of the oceans releasing CO2 rather than from man-made causes is absurd on the face of it. Think about the rise in ocean levels due to global warming. Half or so of it is supposed to be from the ice caps melting; the other half is from all the water warming up. If this guy had it right that the oceans have already warmed up enough to be releasing trapped CO2 they'd also have expanded and the water levels would be a lot more than an inch higher over the last 50 years. The other thing I notice about the site is that this self proclaimed biologist offers quite a variety of opinions on topics ranging from prions , global warming, flouride, and transgenic crops. Nowhere, however, do I see a single reference - everything is simply stated as a fact. For example: It seems likely that ice ages on earth are caused by a nuclear hot spot in the core rotating toward the surface and heating the Pacific Ocean. The primary evidence for this is that the past ten ice ages have been cycling at 100 thousand year intervals. Environmental changes are not apt to be so cyclic, but a convectional oscillation in the earth's core could be. It's quite significant that a large number of coral reefs are dying from over-heating. Humans are not causing the oceans to over-heat; it appears to be caused by heat from the earth's core. OK, I guess, if a biologist says so. But maybe some calculations would help? --- David ice caps. They are claiming that thermodynamic analysis of the changes in temperature of the oceans and the atmosphere combined with the huge difference in heat capacity of the ocean (liquid water) versus the atmosphere (gases) suggest that the build up of CO2 in the atmosphere is not the major cause of global warming but that the earths core is cyclically heating the oceans and forcing the oceans to release CO2 to the atmosphere. The difference in heat capacity between liquid water and air is several orders of magnitude (liquid water has about 1000 times the heat capacity of air). A lot of their thermodynamic and chemical equilibrium arguments make a lot of sense to me. If they are correct and if their predictions of where the weather is headed as a result is also correct ( see climate and ice ages at http://nov55.com/cli.html and super storms at http://www.unknowncountry.com/edge/quickwatch/ and the "Day after Tomorrow" http://www.cambodianonline.net/earth04014.htm ), we need to do a lot more than just reduce CO2 emissions. You can find the rest of the details in the links below. Theory on Hot Spot Rotating within the Earth at: http://nov55.com/thry.html Heat in the Earth's Core at: http://nov55.com/heat.html A page with a lot more interesting links: http://www.cambodianonline.net/homeearthchanges.htm Glacial Cycles and Astronomical Forcing at: http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/277/5323/215?rbfvrToken=9b3e6a97683c69e3ba0c9f60006b6165cdf21028 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Let me choose
I say we start a three party system in the US. The Republican is one The Democrat are another The election is held and you go vote - you can vote for one or the other, But, if you think that one and the other are not worthy of the post then you can, Vote for SAM, Now if SAM wins the popular vote, Three things happen, (1) Public humiliation of one ant the other in stocks (visualize both of the last candidates in stocks (see Opus too)) (2) They are then Tar and feathered (3) We start over with two more. Now we will either get some real good folks elected or ... well you know how us Americans love sports and betting ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Let me choose
How about we start suing candidates who make public claims and then do not live up to them? A verbal contract is still a contract. Jeromie JJJN wrote: I say we start a three party system in the US. The Republican is one The Democrat are another The election is held and you go vote - you can vote for one or the other, But, if you think that one and the other are not worthy of the post then you can, Vote for SAM, Now if SAM wins the popular vote, Three things happen, (1) Public humiliation of one ant the other in stocks (visualize both of the last candidates in stocks (see Opus too)) (2) They are then Tar and feathered (3) We start over with two more. Now we will either get some real good folks elected or ... well you know how us Americans love sports and betting ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
