[Biofuel] Goodbye so Long, and thanks for all the Fish! ( I hope not Darryl )

2016-12-23 Thread Tony croft_2j


   Thanks Chipper and Darryl. and to our Old Favorite Gone but not 
forgotten Keith

Thankyou guys for all you have done  in keeping this list going
I know how tedious it can be over the years  sometimes you wonder if it 
is all worth it
I know how you feel I have been in a Mail list going on 26 years now and 
mainly their are 2 of us active sending

stuff into it and keeping it alive after all these years
We both know that most of our members are still reading our posts BUT 
they forget to tell us
as we have become a part of their lives that they take for granted IF we 
suddenly stopped all of a sudden we would get , where have Tony and Al 
Gone ?
( Al is about 88 now and I am only 57 ) I also have a daily post out to 
a group of friends And sometimes I wonder why
Occasionally I put in the odd really controversial Email or something 
that has to spark a shock or funny reply to just wake them up

but they all keep coming back for more
Darryl I know I haven't been vocal in many years  it doesnt mean I dont 
appreciate all the work you do  it is often thankless and tedious
but rewarding all the same people do appreciate you but they do take you 
for granted so mate Please personally accept all my thanks for what you 
have done
I wish you and yours and all of our group all the best for 2017 may all 
our Biofuel wishes & alternative ideas &needs for this planet come true

Tony



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Re: [Biofuel] Happy Solstice all, Taking the list down.

2016-12-23 Thread Kirk McLoren
Some things just make me sad. All the best to you and yours.Kirk  “The further 
a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it.” 
 George Orwell

 

On Friday, December 23, 2016 8:41 AM, Fred  wrote:
 

 I will certainly miss this list.

Thank you Chip, Darryl and everyone else for keeping it going for as long
as you did.

Fred

On Dec 22, 2016 11:06 PM, "Michele Stephenson" 
wrote:

> Happy Solstice!
>
> Thank you Chipper for all your efforts these past few years. I have
> learned so much from being a part of this crowd.
>
> May 2017 be a wonderful year for everyone.
>
> Michele
>
> > On Dec 22, 2016, at 4:42 PM, Chip Mefford  wrote:
> >
> > It has been many years now since Keith passed.
> >
> > As things stand, Darryl is about the only traffic posted here
> > and even that is echoing (admittedly interesting) stuff
> > posted elsewhere.
> >
> > If anyone is interested, I can and am willing to provide the subscriber's
> > list if anyone wishes to continue this work.
> >
> > As things stand, this mailing list is the only mailing list left on
> > my mailman server that gets any traffic at all, and the spam to post
> > ratio is about 70:1 (intercepted).
> >
> > As of 20170101, the list will shut down.
> >
> > The archives will of course remain in place until such a time as
> > those responsible for them decide to take some other action.
> >
> > Please take these few days to make your farewells.
> >
> > So long
> > and thanks for everything.
> >
> > your list-admin
> > --chipper
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[Biofuel] China’s Smog Is as Deadly as Smoking, New Research Claims | TIME

2016-12-23 Thread Darryl McMahon

http://time.com/4617295/china-smog-smoking-environment-air-pollution/

[links, images and video in on-line article]

China’s Smog Is as Deadly as Smoking, New Research Claims

Feliz Solomon

1:44 AM ET 2016-12-23

Current severe smog in northern China is affecting nearly half a billion 
people


Air pollution could be the cause of 1 in 3 deaths in China, new academic 
research suggests, making everyday life about as deadly as smoking 
cigarettes in some parts of the country.


According to the South China Morning Post, a recent study of 74 cities 
analyzed some 3.03 million deaths recorded in 2013, and found that 31.8% 
of them could be linked to smog.


The study, carried out by researchers at China’s Nanjing University, 
found that the air was most toxic in the cities of Baoding, Shijiazhuang 
and Handan, each reporting more than 30,000 deaths in 2013 that could be 
linked to pollution.


It does not appear that the situation has markedly improved in the years 
since. Last Friday, Beijing issued a “red alert” warning because of a 
blanket of thick smog shrouding the capital city and a large swath of 
northern China, affecting nearly half a billion people. With pollution 
levels reaching about 500 PM2.5 particles per cubic meter — the WHO 
ranks safe levels as under 25 — the so-called airpocalypse, has sent 
tens of thousands fleeing to southern parts of the country, where the 
air is cleaner.


Hospitals have been crowded with patients suffering respiratory 
problems, whole highways have been shut down, and hundreds of flights 
grounded. Classes were also cancelled — although in one case exams were 
not. Shocking images spread across the Internet showing schoolchildren 
seated outside wearing jackets and face masks, huddled over desks to 
take a test in gray, toxic gloom.


The Post reports that the new findings from Nanjing support previous 
research; the paper says that the International Energy Agency published 
a report in June claiming that air pollution has trimmed some 25% off 
life expectancy in China, while a study co-authored by researchers at 
three renowned universities determined that people in China’s north 
could lose an average of 5.5 years of life due to smog.


China’s National Energy Administration reportedly said Wednesday that it 
will enact measures such as limiting high-pollution fuel emissions and 
launching a satellite carbon-dioxide monitor to mitigate the problem, 
but many in the country’s vast ultra-industrial cities remain skeptical.


Greenpeace has warned that the economy must urgently be made less 
dependent on polluting forms of energy and that people living in cold 
northern climates should be given alternatives to coal, which causes 
much of the smog.

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Re: [Biofuel] Happy Solstice all, Taking the list down.

2016-12-23 Thread Fred
I will certainly miss this list.

Thank you Chip, Darryl and everyone else for keeping it going for as long
as you did.

Fred

On Dec 22, 2016 11:06 PM, "Michele Stephenson" 
wrote:

> Happy Solstice!
>
> Thank you Chipper for all your efforts these past few years. I have
> learned so much from being a part of this crowd.
>
> May 2017 be a wonderful year for everyone.
>
> Michele
>
> > On Dec 22, 2016, at 4:42 PM, Chip Mefford  wrote:
> >
> > It has been many years now since Keith passed.
> >
> > As things stand, Darryl is about the only traffic posted here
> > and even that is echoing (admittedly interesting) stuff
> > posted elsewhere.
> >
> > If anyone is interested, I can and am willing to provide the subscriber's
> > list if anyone wishes to continue this work.
> >
> > As things stand, this mailing list is the only mailing list left on
> > my mailman server that gets any traffic at all, and the spam to post
> > ratio is about 70:1 (intercepted).
> >
> > As of 20170101, the list will shut down.
> >
> > The archives will of course remain in place until such a time as
> > those responsible for them decide to take some other action.
> >
> > Please take these few days to make your farewells.
> >
> > So long
> > and thanks for everything.
> >
> > your list-admin
> > --chipper
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