Re: [Biofuel] guns
Check out this site on Assie gun control. http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp - Original Message - From: Garth Kim Travis To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 18:35 Subject: [Biofuel] guns Greetings,I received the following email and I have not been able to find that it is a hoax, yet. I do know that passing a law to allow concealed weapons in Texas really cut the drive by shootings and random violence to where we rarely hear about it now. What I find amazing is that a mere 1500 permits have been issued, not many in a population of 30 million+.While I will admit that being a old hippie and carrying a gun may sound like an oxymoron, I do have wild hogs on my land as well as water moccasins, both good reasons to go armed.Bright Blessings,Kim GUNS Here's a thought to warm some of your hearts... From: Ed Chenel, A police officer in Australia Hi Yanks, I thought you all would like to see the real figures from "Down Under". It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by a new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by our own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars. The first year results are now in: Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 %;Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 %; Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 % (yes, 44 %!). In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 %. (Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not! and criminals still possess their guns!). While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since the criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed. There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the elderly. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in "successfully ridding Australian society of guns." You won't see this on the American evening news or hear your governor or members of the State Assembly disseminating this information. The Australian experience proves it. Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws affect only the law-abiding citizens. Take note Americans, before it's too late! FORWARD TO EVERYONE ON YOUR EMAIL LIST. [ I DID ] DON'T BE A MEMBER OF THE SILENT MAJORITY. BE OF THE VOCAL MINORITY WHO WON'T LET THIS HAPPEN IN THE U.S.A ~ ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE
We never miss an election, local or otherwise. Why? - Original Message - From: Benet P. Donnelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 12:31 Subject: RE: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE Seven min would have done what, made you feel better? HOW?I'm sure whoever you wanted in office would have done so much better.Before,during and after.Buy the way do you vote in all elections? -Original Message- From: RICHARD BOGRAD [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 5:17 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE Brian, This is scary. My wife and I have always thought that this could be a conspiracy. Dick - Original Message - From: Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 11:31 Subject: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE I know that I will be slammed as a conspiracy theorist here, but has anyone else ever considered that the reason that Bush didn't respond more aggressively was that the news wasn't news to him. His popularity rating did go WAY up after 9/11. Do I think he's psychopathic enough for that? Yes, I do. And that's the scariest thought of all. Brian --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard, Don't you think that there is something problematic with a president who sits for 7 minutes and continues to read about goats to children when bombs (or airplanes) are exploding within his country? What if those two planes had only been the first of an entire wave? Think that those wasted seven minutes could have been used in a more efficient manner? Hell. He had no way of knowing that they weren't the beginning of the end of the world. Or perhaps that's just it. With his peculiarly twisted bent on Christianity and the end times, maybe that's exactly why he wasn't pulsed in the least. Too damned bad he discounted the rest of the nation that he swore to serve in lieu of his mulling things over. In the military it's called dereliction of duty, and depending upon the severity, punishable with prison time. Can I get an Amen? Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: RICHARD BOGRAD [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 4:40 PM Subject: [biofuel] THE HOT MOVIE The conversations and accusations are flying around, so I thought I would post an article I received from a humor writer which may help someone put this whole discussion in perspective. Enjoy. Dick THIS WEEK'S COLUMN: THE HOT MOVIE THAT'S BURNING BUSH Michael Moore's documentary Fahrenheit 9/11 has already set records at the box office, treating moviegoers to a scathing attack on President Bush and his co-architects in the war on terrorism. If you hate Bush, you will absolutely love this movie, which probably explains why so many people are eager to dub the movie into Arabic. Not to mention French, Spanish, German, Russian, Mandarin, Hindi, Tonga, Swahili and (please insert your native language here). As much as I love to bash the president, I have misgivings about this movie. It's a rather one-sided presentation of facts, designed to get Americans to ask a serious question about their president, a question that has been asked countless times in other countries: How did this idiot get elected? But Bush is hardly an idiot and if you don't believe me, just ask the woman who dresses him. She will tell you that he's quite capable at what he does, leading America against the forces of evil, who are involved in all sorts of mischief these days, even producing award-winning documentaries. While Fahrenheit 9/11 is certainly compelling, it's important to ask ourselves how fair it is. For example, Moore shows us what Bush did on Sept. 11 after learning that a second plane had hit the twin towers: He continued reading a book called My Pet Goat to a group of schoolchildren for almost seven minutes. In other words, he didn't do what most Americans would expect of him in this moment of crisis: Jump out of his chair, grab a phone and say, Hey Dick, what the heck should I do? What people don't realize, however, is that the president is an expert multi-tasker. The demands of his job often dictate that he perform several tasks at once, sometimes even using both sides of his brain. In those seven minutes of seemingly casual reading, he had
Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE
Brian, This is scary. My wife and I have always thought that this could be a conspiracy. Dick - Original Message - From: Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 11:31 Subject: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE I know that I will be slammed as a conspiracy theorist here, but has anyone else ever considered that the reason that Bush didn't respond more aggressively was that the news wasn't news to him. His popularity rating did go WAY up after 9/11. Do I think he's psychopathic enough for that? Yes, I do. And that's the scariest thought of all. Brian --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard, Don't you think that there is something problematic with a president who sits for 7 minutes and continues to read about goats to children when bombs (or airplanes) are exploding within his country? What if those two planes had only been the first of an entire wave? Think that those wasted seven minutes could have been used in a more efficient manner? Hell. He had no way of knowing that they weren't the beginning of the end of the world. Or perhaps that's just it. With his peculiarly twisted bent on Christianity and the end times, maybe that's exactly why he wasn't pulsed in the least. Too damned bad he discounted the rest of the nation that he swore to serve in lieu of his mulling things over. In the military it's called dereliction of duty, and depending upon the severity, punishable with prison time. Can I get an Amen? Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: RICHARD BOGRAD [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 4:40 PM Subject: [biofuel] THE HOT MOVIE The conversations and accusations are flying around, so I thought I would post an article I received from a humor writer which may help someone put this whole discussion in perspective. Enjoy. Dick THIS WEEK'S COLUMN: THE HOT MOVIE THAT'S BURNING BUSH Michael Moore's documentary Fahrenheit 9/11 has already set records at the box office, treating moviegoers to a scathing attack on President Bush and his co-architects in the war on terrorism. If you hate Bush, you will absolutely love this movie, which probably explains why so many people are eager to dub the movie into Arabic. Not to mention French, Spanish, German, Russian, Mandarin, Hindi, Tonga, Swahili and (please insert your native language here). As much as I love to bash the president, I have misgivings about this movie. It's a rather one-sided presentation of facts, designed to get Americans to ask a serious question about their president, a question that has been asked countless times in other countries: How did this idiot get elected? But Bush is hardly an idiot and if you don't believe me, just ask the woman who dresses him. She will tell you that he's quite capable at what he does, leading America against the forces of evil, who are involved in all sorts of mischief these days, even producing award-winning documentaries. While Fahrenheit 9/11 is certainly compelling, it's important to ask ourselves how fair it is. For example, Moore shows us what Bush did on Sept. 11 after learning that a second plane had hit the twin towers: He continued reading a book called My Pet Goat to a group of schoolchildren for almost seven minutes. In other words, he didn't do what most Americans would expect of him in this moment of crisis: Jump out of his chair, grab a phone and say, Hey Dick, what the heck should I do? What people don't realize, however, is that the president is an expert multi-tasker. The demands of his job often dictate that he perform several tasks at once, sometimes even using both sides of his brain. In those seven minutes of seemingly casual reading, he had not only planned the wars on Afghanistan and Iraq, but also determined, through a highly analytical process, what he was going to have for lunch. Moore also shows us that despite the involvement of at least 15 Saudi Arabian natives in the Sept. 11 attacks, the Bush Administration allowed a number of Saudis, including the extended family of Osama bin Laden, to charter planes and leave America soon after the terrorist attacks. Of course, there is a logical explanation for this. And as soon as I find it, I will let you know. Moore and other critics of the Bush Administration seem to imply that the Saudis were allowed to leave America unquestioned. But that's not true at all. Before boarding their planes, all of them were asked the all-important question: Did you pack your bags yourself? And all of them gave the correct answer: Of course not. We have maids for that! Citing a figure from the Washington Post
[biofuel] THE HOT MOVIE
The conversations and accusations are flying around, so I thought I would post an article I received from a humor writer which may help someone put this whole discussion in perspective. Enjoy. Dick THIS WEEK'S COLUMN: THE HOT MOVIE THAT'S BURNING BUSH Michael Moore's documentary Fahrenheit 9/11 has already set records at the box office, treating moviegoers to a scathing attack on President Bush and his co-architects in the war on terrorism. If you hate Bush, you will absolutely love this movie, which probably explains why so many people are eager to dub the movie into Arabic. Not to mention French, Spanish, German, Russian, Mandarin, Hindi, Tonga, Swahili and (please insert your native language here). As much as I love to bash the president, I have misgivings about this movie. It's a rather one-sided presentation of facts, designed to get Americans to ask a serious question about their president, a question that has been asked countless times in other countries: How did this idiot get elected? But Bush is hardly an idiot and if you don't believe me, just ask the woman who dresses him. She will tell you that he's quite capable at what he does, leading America against the forces of evil, who are involved in all sorts of mischief these days, even producing award-winning documentaries. While Fahrenheit 9/11 is certainly compelling, it's important to ask ourselves how fair it is. For example, Moore shows us what Bush did on Sept. 11 after learning that a second plane had hit the twin towers: He continued reading a book called My Pet Goat to a group of schoolchildren for almost seven minutes. In other words, he didn't do what most Americans would expect of him in this moment of crisis: Jump out of his chair, grab a phone and say, Hey Dick, what the heck should I do? What people don't realize, however, is that the president is an expert multi-tasker. The demands of his job often dictate that he perform several tasks at once, sometimes even using both sides of his brain. In those seven minutes of seemingly casual reading, he had not only planned the wars on Afghanistan and Iraq, but also determined, through a highly analytical process, what he was going to have for lunch. Moore also shows us that despite the involvement of at least 15 Saudi Arabian natives in the Sept. 11 attacks, the Bush Administration allowed a number of Saudis, including the extended family of Osama bin Laden, to charter planes and leave America soon after the terrorist attacks. Of course, there is a logical explanation for this. And as soon as I find it, I will let you know. Moore and other critics of the Bush Administration seem to imply that the Saudis were allowed to leave America unquestioned. But that's not true at all. Before boarding their planes, all of them were asked the all-important question: Did you pack your bags yourself? And all of them gave the correct answer: Of course not. We have maids for that! Citing a figure from the Washington Post, Moore charges that Bush spent 42% of the first seven months of his presidency on vacation, implying that he was ill-prepared to prevent the terrorist attacks. There are two problems with this argument. First, Bush took what he calls working vacations. He didn't just sit around -- he WORKED on his golf swing. Second, the 42% figure includes weekends. Most Americans do not think of their weekends as vacations. Even when they get a Friday or Monday off, they call it a long weekend, not a short vacation. If ordinary Americans can get four weekends a month, surely the president is entitled to six or seven. But this kind of logical reasoning seems to escape Moore, perhaps because he doesn't have the intellectual capacity of President Bush. In fact, we can be reasonably certain that Moore, in his entire adulthood, has never even read My Pet Goat. -- (c) Copyright 2004 Melvin Durai. All Rights Reserved. SEND THIS COLUMN TO A FRIEND [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] (unknown)
If you think Rush Limbaugh is main stream, you need to be adjusted. - Original Message - From: Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 08:01 Subject: [biofuel] (unknown) I always thought that Rush Limbaugh was mainstream media. You feel that he, and all of the posers that have come after him, are aligned with the left? I'd hate to see where your right is located. Brian --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Eric M. Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Woah, I wasn't expecting replies like this. I would like to remind Todd and everyone else that if we watch and believe what we see on the news, we ARE believing what we see and/or read. Don't forget that the mainstream media is generally aligned with the left, and I'm confident that we aren't getting the whole story-unfortunately (and probably still wouldn't get it if they were aligned with the right). What I sent was an article forwarded from another source; it is hard for me believe 100% of what it is saying, but I feel the same way when I watch the news at night. The real problem is that we are not getting the whole story. BUT I am confident about one thing! When I go to the pump and fill up my car (28 mpg diesel) and my motorcycle (42 mpg awesome lookin' Harley Night Train, by the way), I still can't help but feel that I am funding a terrorist organization. In my local paper just the other week, a journalist broke down the [local] cost of gasoline. A whole $.99 per gallon goes to OPEC, or whomever supplied the crude oil. Of course one barrel only produces so much gasoline; the rest is used for other things. One dollar per gallon to an untrustworthy source. Can we trust the Saudis? I think not. My whole point is that until we stop buying crude from the Arab world, until we become self sufficient with our fuel, until we put money into our own pockets, we are at risk of our money being used against us. If the article were totally made up from some maniac as crazy as the terrorists themselves, one can't deny that they [the terrorists] are fanatical and unstable, want the USA and any other non-muslim group out of their countries, and will continue to plan to undo us and kill us with smiles on their faces. When we cut off their supply of money, they will go broke and we will [hopefully] be a little safer. We can all start by getting involved as WE ALL HERE are doing-educating ourselves on how to make our own cleaner [in more ways than one] fuel. Young Master Joseph Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
