Re: [Biofuel] 6 stroke motor

[Jason& Katie]

heres where a solar still would come in handy. the only drawback is you would 
have to scrape the mineral sediments out of the container every so often. if a 
survivalist can suck the water out of desert sand with a plastic bag, saltwater 
is childs play.
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  It's not so much peak water, as peak usueable water.   If we want freshwater, 
the oceans are out (or at least expensive to turn into fresh water).  That's 
the problem -- if areas become more arid and glaciers melt, even more of the 
earth's water will be locked up as saltwater. 

  Z


  On 1/26/07, doug swanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
OK, I hear the term "peak water" and know the idea behind it, but I
can't wrap my mind around the idea that water will become scarcer as the
globe warms, unless it escapes our atmosphere into space.






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Re: [Biofuel] 6 stroke motor

[Doug Younker]

The referenced article mentions steam multiple times, Jason.  Google 
reveals there is another flavor of a 6 stroke engine 
http://www.sixstroke.com/ , that doesn't seem to be linked with 
Crower's.  I just just can't wrap my imagination around either of them.
Doug, N0LKK
Kansas USA inc.


Jason& Katie wrote:
> i think weve seen his 6 cycle work before, but i dont remember anything 
> about steam, maybe a new experiment in the series?
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Re: [Biofuel] 6 stroke motor

[Doug Younker]

Yea I guess peak usable or peak easily attainable would be more 
accurate, but awkward.  Doug S.; Yes water vapor will condense and fall 
to the planet's surface SOMEWHERE, however replenishing to it's original 
source may be  a bit of chance. Particularly if the source was an 
underground aquafier .  When I worked in the oil patch I aften 
introduced chemicals into prehistoric "oceans"   deep underground.  As I 
did so I often wondered if I was permanately polluting a potential 
source of water that may be needed no matter the cost.
Doug, N0LKK
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Zeke Yewdall wrote:
> It's not so much peak water, as peak usueable water.   If we want 
> freshwater, the oceans are out (or at least expensive to turn into fresh 
> water).  That's the problem -- if areas become more arid and glaciers 
> melt, even more of the earth's water will be locked up as saltwater.
> 
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> OK, I hear the term "peak water" and know the idea behind it, but I
> can't wrap my mind around the idea that water will become scarcer as the
> globe warms, unless it escapes our atmosphere into space.
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Re: [Biofuel] 6 stroke motor

[Zeke Yewdall]

It's not so much peak water, as peak usueable water.   If we want
freshwater, the oceans are out (or at least expensive to turn into fresh
water).  That's the problem -- if areas become more arid and glaciers melt,
even more of the earth's water will be locked up as saltwater.

Z

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OK, I hear the term "peak water" and know the idea behind it, but I
can't wrap my mind around the idea that water will become scarcer as the
globe warms, unless it escapes our atmosphere into space.


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Re: [Biofuel] 6 stroke motor

[doug swanson]

OK, I hear the term "peak water" and know the idea behind it, but I 
can't wrap my mind around the idea that water will become scarcer as the 
globe warms, unless it escapes our atmosphere into space. 

The way I see it, warmer temperatures, combined with a larger water 
surface on the earth, (rising sea levels, covering what once was 
"dryland") should make more clouds, and while warmer air can hold higher 
levels of water vapor, don't the clouds rain eventually? 

I think water capturing systems might be of benefit in the future...  
Unless I'm missing something.  Someone, please explain this to me... 

I mean, I do see that there's lower water flow in some of the waterways 
in my area, and in my yard, but in my yard, what once was weeds and 
scrub is now trees, and I think that in this case, the trees are drawing 
water from the ground, diminshing the flow of the streams...

The trees are also contributing to the evaporation of ground water as it 
is drawn up through the trunk, branches and leaves, bringing the earth's 
minerals through every part of its being, before finally evaporating 
from it from the surface of its leaves...


doug swanson



Doug Younker wrote:

>Interesting. Hopefully someone will create an animation of it's 
>operation.  On drawback I see is that many places have reached "peak 
>water",to borrow a phrase.  Yes stationery application could easily 
>condense the exhaust.  So could vehicles, but it may a trick where the 
>trend needs to be lighter/smaller vehicles.
>Doug, N0LKK
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Re: [Biofuel] 6 stroke motor

[Doug Younker]

Interesting. Hopefully someone will create an animation of it's 
operation.  On drawback I see is that many places have reached "peak 
water",to borrow a phrase.  Yes stationery application could easily 
condense the exhaust.  So could vehicles, but it may a trick where the 
trend needs to be lighter/smaller vehicles.
Doug, N0LKK
Kansas USA inc.

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Re: [Biofuel] 6 stroke motor

[Jason& Katie]

i think weve seen his 6 cycle work before, but i dont remember anything about 
steam, maybe a new experiment in the series?
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  Bruce Crower is about as credible as they come.  He's not the only person 
to have thought of this, but if he can make it work, I'm sure it DOES work!






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Re: [Biofuel] 6 stroke motor

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Kirk McLoren wrote:


http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060227/FREE/302270007/1023/THISWEEKSISSUE



   Bruce Crower is about as credible as they come.  He's not the only 
person to have thought of this, but if he can make it work, I'm sure it 
DOES work!






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[Biofuel] 6 stroke motor

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