Re: [Biofuel] Bob Allen -Other Vaccines during WWI - THE 1918 INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC

2005-12-07 Thread David Miller
Zeke Yewdall wrote:

>Yet they are already being sued over drugs like vioxx.  Are the
>threats of law suits any higher for vaccines than for other drugs
>released with insufficient testing?
>  
>

Vaccinations have their own special problems.  For starters, they're all 
different and
time-sensitive.  IE, you can't test a flu vaccine for three years 
because you need a different
one every year.  For another, the profits on them are miniscule compared 
to other drugs,
which makes it harder to justify a long, expensive, trial.


Personally I'm really bothered that viox and bextra were taken off the 
market.  I understand
that it increased the potential of heart attacks and strokes by some 2-3 
times among people
taking it long term.  However, I can easily see that that's an 
acceptable proposition to some
people.  If you're crippled by arthritis but can live a nearly normal 
life with bextra it's probably
worth 3X the chance of having a heart attack.  And they were great 
inflamation reducers for those
with temporary problems that wouldn't be taking it long term.

My thoughts, worth what you paid for them:)

--- David

>On 12/6/05, Mike Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>No one wants to touch them because of fears of being sued.
>>
>>Zeke Yewdall wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>If vaccines are big business being forced on us for profit, then why
>>>does no one want to actually make them.  Last year, less than half of
>>>the people in the US who wanted to get flu vaccines couldn't even get
>>>them, because there was only one or two companies who produced them,
>>>and one got shut down.  Wouldn't the big drug companies be falling
>>>over themselves to get into this business if there was any money to be
>>>made in it?  Vaccinating someone only gets you $5, once a year for
>>>flu, or maybe $60 once every 10 years for other stuff.  Better to sell
>>>them fancy patented drugs for $80 a month...
>>>
>>>
>>>On 12/6/05, Marylynn Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>  
>>>

[Big snip]

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Re: [Biofuel] Bob Allen -Other Vaccines during WWI - THE 1918 INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC

2005-12-06 Thread Mike Weaver
But the flu also struck in many other parts of the world that didn't get 
vaccines.

Marylynn Schmidt wrote:

>> "THE 1918 INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC WAS A VACCINE-CAUSED DISEASE
>> E. McBean (Vaccination The Silent Killer p28)
>>
>> Very few people realize that the worst epidemic ever to hit America, the
>> Spanish Influenza of 1918 was the after effect of the massive 
>> nation-wide
>> vaccine campaign. ..
>>
>> If we check back in history to that 1918 flu period, we will see that it
>> suddenly struck just after the end of World War I when our soldiers were
>> returning home from overseas. That was the first war in which all the 
>> known
>> vaccines were forced on all the servicemen. This mish-mash of poison 
>> drugs
>> and putrid protein of which the vaccines were composed, caused such
>> widespread disease and death among the soldiers that it was the 
>> common talk
>> of the day, that more of our men were being killed by medical shots 
>> than by
>> enemy shots from guns. Thousands were invalided home or to military
>> hospitals, as hopeless wrecks, before they ever saw a day of battle. The
>> death and disease rate among the vaccinated soldiers was four times 
>> higher
>> than among the unvaccinated civilians. But this did not stop the vaccine
>> promoters. Vaccine has always been big business, and so it was continued
>> doggedly."
>> *
>> from my research
>>
>> Vaccines in use during WWI
>>
>> Besides smallpox vaccine, there is a history of typhoid vaccines, plague
>> vaccines, diphtheria, rabies vaccine, tetanus antitoxin
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.who.int/vaccines-diseases/history/history.shtml
>> # 1885 Rabies
>> # 1897 Plague
>>
>> http://www.worldpsychology.net/World%20Psychology/OriginalCorePages/marriage 
>>
>> 8.htm
>> 1895 Diptheria vaccination program begins. Over the period lasting until
>> 1907, 63,249 cases of diptheria were treated with anti-toxin. Over 8,900
>> died, giving a fatality rate of 14%. Over the same period, 11,716 cases
>> were not treated with anti-toxin, of which 703 died, giving a 
>> fatality rate
>> of 6%.
>>
>> 1919 Diptheria vaccinations injure 60 and kill 10 in Texas.
>>
>> http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/2003/05/08/story265526733.asp
>> But US Army records show that seven men dropped dead after being 
>> vaccinated.
>>
>> A report from US Secretary of War Henry L Stimson not only verified 
>> these
>> deaths but also stated that there had been 63 deaths and 28,585 cases of
>> hepatitis as a direct result of yellow fever vaccination during only six
>> months of the war.
>>
>> That was only one of the 14 to 25 shots given to recruits.
>>
>> Army records also reveal that after vaccination became compulsory in 
>> the US
>> Army in 1911, not only did typhoid increase rapidly but all other 
>> vaccinal
>> diseases increased at an alarming rate.
>>
>> After America entered the war in 1917, the death rate from typhoid
>> vaccination rose to the highest point in the history of the US Army.
>>
>> The deaths occurred after the shots were given in sanitary American
>> hospitals and well-supervised army camps in France, where sanitation had
>> been practised for years.
>>
>> The report of the Surgeon-General of the US Army shows that during 1917
>> there were admitted into the army hospitals 19,608 men suffering from
>> anti-typhoid inoculation and vaccinia.
>>
>> **
>> http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-35678
>> Tetanus
>> from the medicine, history of article
>> The other great hazard of war that was brought under control in World 
>> War I
>> was tetanus. This was achieved by the prophylactic injection of tetanus
>> antitoxin into all wounded men. The serum was originally prepared by the
>> bacteriologists Emil von Behring and Shibasaburo Kitasato in 1890–92, 
>> and
>> the results of this first large-scale trial amply confirmed its 
>> efficacy. ...
>>
>> In 1897 the English bacteriologist Almroth Wright introduced a vaccine
>> prepared from killed typhoid bacilli as a preventive of typhoid.
>> Preliminary trials in the Indian army produced excellent results, and
>> typhoid vaccination was adopted for the use of British troops serving in
>> the South African War. Unfortunately, the method of administration was
>> inadequately
>>
>> ***
>> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_ui 
>>
>> ds=10963505&dopt=Citation
>> South Med J. 2000 Aug;93(8):763-7. Related Articles, Links
>>
>> 'Bacilli and bullets': William Osler and the antivaccination movement.
>>
>> Greenberg SB.
>>
>> Department of Medicine, Microbiology and Immunology, Baylor College of
>> Medicine, Houston, Texas 77030, USA.
>>
>> Public discourse concerning current vaccination recommendations has
>> dramatically increased. The current battle is not new, having had a 
>> lengthy
>> foreshadowing during the 19th and early 20th centuries. Over a 30-year
>> period, a concerted effort to limit the use of smallpox vaccine grew 
>> at the

Re: [Biofuel] Bob Allen -Other Vaccines during WWI - THE 1918 INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC

2005-12-06 Thread Mike Weaver
 From what I've read the risk to profit ratio is is so low that big 
pharma is not interested.  Vaccines apparently aren't very profitable.

http://www.altcorp.com/DentalInformation/vaccinelawsuits.htm

Quote towards the end.
http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/nationworld/v-lite/story/5336156p-4832504c.html

Zeke Yewdall wrote:

>Yet they are already being sued over drugs like vioxx.  Are the
>threats of law suits any higher for vaccines than for other drugs
>released with insufficient testing?
>
>On 12/6/05, Mike Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>No one wants to touch them because of fears of being sued.
>>
>>
>>



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Re: [Biofuel] Bob Allen -Other Vaccines during WWI - THE 1918 INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC

2005-12-06 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Yet they are already being sued over drugs like vioxx.  Are the
threats of law suits any higher for vaccines than for other drugs
released with insufficient testing?

On 12/6/05, Mike Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No one wants to touch them because of fears of being sued.
>
> Zeke Yewdall wrote:
>
> >If vaccines are big business being forced on us for profit, then why
> >does no one want to actually make them.  Last year, less than half of
> >the people in the US who wanted to get flu vaccines couldn't even get
> >them, because there was only one or two companies who produced them,
> >and one got shut down.  Wouldn't the big drug companies be falling
> >over themselves to get into this business if there was any money to be
> >made in it?  Vaccinating someone only gets you $5, once a year for
> >flu, or maybe $60 once every 10 years for other stuff.  Better to sell
> >them fancy patented drugs for $80 a month...
> >
> >
> >On 12/6/05, Marylynn Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>"THE 1918 INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC WAS A VACCINE-CAUSED DISEASE
> >>>E. McBean (Vaccination The Silent Killer p28)
> >>>
> >>>Very few people realize that the worst epidemic ever to hit America, the
> >>>Spanish Influenza of 1918 was the after effect of the massive nation-wide
> >>>vaccine campaign. ..
> >>>
> >>>If we check back in history to that 1918 flu period, we will see that it
> >>>suddenly struck just after the end of World War I when our soldiers were
> >>>returning home from overseas. That was the first war in which all the known
> >>>vaccines were forced on all the servicemen. This mish-mash of poison drugs
> >>>and putrid protein of which the vaccines were composed, caused such
> >>>widespread disease and death among the soldiers that it was the common talk
> >>>of the day, that more of our men were being killed by medical shots than by
> >>>enemy shots from guns. Thousands were invalided home or to military
> >>>hospitals, as hopeless wrecks, before they ever saw a day of battle. The
> >>>death and disease rate among the vaccinated soldiers was four times higher
> >>>than among the unvaccinated civilians. But this did not stop the vaccine
> >>>promoters. Vaccine has always been big business, and so it was continued
> >>>doggedly."
> >>>*
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>from my research
> >>
> >>
> >>>Vaccines in  use during WWI
> >>>
> >>>Besides smallpox vaccine, there is a history of typhoid vaccines, plague
> >>>vaccines, diphtheria, rabies vaccine, tetanus antitoxin
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>http://www.who.int/vaccines-diseases/history/history.shtml
> >>># 1885   Rabies
> >>># 1897   Plague
> >>>
> >>>http://www.worldpsychology.net/World%20Psychology/OriginalCorePages/marriage
> >>>8.htm
> >>>1895 Diptheria vaccination program begins. Over the period lasting until
> >>>1907, 63,249 cases of diptheria were treated with anti-toxin. Over 8,900
> >>>died, giving a fatality rate of 14%. Over the same period, 11,716 cases
> >>>were not treated with anti-toxin, of which 703 died, giving a fatality rate
> >>>of 6%.
> >>>
> >>>1919 Diptheria vaccinations injure 60 and kill 10 in Texas.
> >>>
> >>>http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/2003/05/08/story265526733.asp
> >>>But US Army records show that seven men dropped dead after being
> >>>vaccinated.
> >>>
> >>>A report from US Secretary of War Henry L Stimson not only verified these
> >>>deaths but also stated that there had been 63 deaths and 28,585 cases of
> >>>hepatitis as a direct result of yellow fever vaccination during only six
> >>>months of the war.
> >>>
> >>>That was only one of the 14 to 25 shots given to recruits.
> >>>
> >>>Army records also reveal that after vaccination became compulsory in the US
> >>>Army in 1911, not only did typhoid increase rapidly but all other vaccinal
> >>>diseases increased at an alarming rate.
> >>>
> >>>After America entered the war in 1917, the death rate from typhoid
> >>>vaccination rose to the highest point in the history of the US Army.
> >>>
> >>>The deaths occurred after the shots were given in sanitary American
> >>>hospitals and well-supervised army camps in France, where sanitation had
> >>>been practised for years.
> >>>
> >>>The report of the Surgeon-General of the US Army shows that during 1917
> >>>there were admitted into the army hospitals 19,608 men suffering from
> >>>anti-typhoid inoculation and vaccinia.
> >>>
> >>>**
> >>>http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-35678
> >>>  Tetanus
> >>>   from the medicine, history of article
> >>>The other great hazard of war that was brought under control in World War I
> >>>was tetanus. This was achieved by the prophylactic injection of tetanus
> >>>antitoxin into all wounded men. The serum was originally prepared by the
> >>>bacteriologists Emil von Behring and Shibasaburo Kitasato in 1890–92, and
> >>>the results of this first large-scale trial amply confirmed its efficacy.
> >>>...
> >>>
> >>>In 1897 the English bacteriologist Almroth W

Re: [Biofuel] Bob Allen -Other Vaccines during WWI - THE 1918 INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC

2005-12-06 Thread Mike Weaver
No one wants to touch them because of fears of being sued.

Zeke Yewdall wrote:

>If vaccines are big business being forced on us for profit, then why
>does no one want to actually make them.  Last year, less than half of
>the people in the US who wanted to get flu vaccines couldn't even get
>them, because there was only one or two companies who produced them,
>and one got shut down.  Wouldn't the big drug companies be falling
>over themselves to get into this business if there was any money to be
>made in it?  Vaccinating someone only gets you $5, once a year for
>flu, or maybe $60 once every 10 years for other stuff.  Better to sell
>them fancy patented drugs for $80 a month...
>
>
>On 12/6/05, Marylynn Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>>"THE 1918 INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC WAS A VACCINE-CAUSED DISEASE
>>>E. McBean (Vaccination The Silent Killer p28)
>>>
>>>Very few people realize that the worst epidemic ever to hit America, the
>>>Spanish Influenza of 1918 was the after effect of the massive nation-wide
>>>vaccine campaign. ..
>>>
>>>If we check back in history to that 1918 flu period, we will see that it
>>>suddenly struck just after the end of World War I when our soldiers were
>>>returning home from overseas. That was the first war in which all the known
>>>vaccines were forced on all the servicemen. This mish-mash of poison drugs
>>>and putrid protein of which the vaccines were composed, caused such
>>>widespread disease and death among the soldiers that it was the common talk
>>>of the day, that more of our men were being killed by medical shots than by
>>>enemy shots from guns. Thousands were invalided home or to military
>>>hospitals, as hopeless wrecks, before they ever saw a day of battle. The
>>>death and disease rate among the vaccinated soldiers was four times higher
>>>than among the unvaccinated civilians. But this did not stop the vaccine
>>>promoters. Vaccine has always been big business, and so it was continued
>>>doggedly."
>>>*
>>>  
>>>
>>>from my research
>>
>>
>>>Vaccines in  use during WWI
>>>
>>>Besides smallpox vaccine, there is a history of typhoid vaccines, plague
>>>vaccines, diphtheria, rabies vaccine, tetanus antitoxin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>http://www.who.int/vaccines-diseases/history/history.shtml
>>># 1885   Rabies
>>># 1897   Plague
>>>
>>>http://www.worldpsychology.net/World%20Psychology/OriginalCorePages/marriage
>>>8.htm
>>>1895 Diptheria vaccination program begins. Over the period lasting until
>>>1907, 63,249 cases of diptheria were treated with anti-toxin. Over 8,900
>>>died, giving a fatality rate of 14%. Over the same period, 11,716 cases
>>>were not treated with anti-toxin, of which 703 died, giving a fatality rate
>>>of 6%.
>>>
>>>1919 Diptheria vaccinations injure 60 and kill 10 in Texas.
>>>
>>>http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/2003/05/08/story265526733.asp
>>>But US Army records show that seven men dropped dead after being
>>>vaccinated.
>>>
>>>A report from US Secretary of War Henry L Stimson not only verified these
>>>deaths but also stated that there had been 63 deaths and 28,585 cases of
>>>hepatitis as a direct result of yellow fever vaccination during only six
>>>months of the war.
>>>
>>>That was only one of the 14 to 25 shots given to recruits.
>>>
>>>Army records also reveal that after vaccination became compulsory in the US
>>>Army in 1911, not only did typhoid increase rapidly but all other vaccinal
>>>diseases increased at an alarming rate.
>>>
>>>After America entered the war in 1917, the death rate from typhoid
>>>vaccination rose to the highest point in the history of the US Army.
>>>
>>>The deaths occurred after the shots were given in sanitary American
>>>hospitals and well-supervised army camps in France, where sanitation had
>>>been practised for years.
>>>
>>>The report of the Surgeon-General of the US Army shows that during 1917
>>>there were admitted into the army hospitals 19,608 men suffering from
>>>anti-typhoid inoculation and vaccinia.
>>>
>>>**
>>>http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-35678
>>>  Tetanus
>>>   from the medicine, history of article
>>>The other great hazard of war that was brought under control in World War I
>>>was tetanus. This was achieved by the prophylactic injection of tetanus
>>>antitoxin into all wounded men. The serum was originally prepared by the
>>>bacteriologists Emil von Behring and Shibasaburo Kitasato in 1890–92, and
>>>the results of this first large-scale trial amply confirmed its efficacy.
>>>...
>>>
>>>In 1897 the English bacteriologist Almroth Wright introduced a vaccine
>>>prepared from killed typhoid bacilli as a preventive of typhoid.
>>>Preliminary trials in the Indian army produced excellent results, and
>>>typhoid vaccination was adopted for the use of British troops serving in
>>>the South African War. Unfortunately, the method of administration was
>>>inadequately
>>>
>>>***
>>>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retr

Re: [Biofuel] Bob Allen -Other Vaccines during WWI - THE 1918 INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC

2005-12-06 Thread bob allen
would you please stop putting my name in the subject line- I am not the 
subject, as much as you may 
want it to be.

Marylynn Schmidt wrote:
>> "THE 1918 INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC WAS A VACCINE-CAUSED DISEASE
>> E. McBean (Vaccination The Silent Killer p28)
>>
>> Very few people realize that the worst epidemic ever to hit America, the
>> Spanish Influenza of 1918 was the after effect of the massive nation-wide
>> vaccine campaign. ..
>>
>> If we check back in history to that 1918 flu period, we will see that it
>> suddenly struck just after the end of World War I when our soldiers were
>> returning home from overseas. That was the first war in which all the 
>> known
>> vaccines were forced on all the servicemen. This mish-mash of poison 
>> drugs
>> and putrid protein of which the vaccines were composed, caused such
>> widespread disease and death among the soldiers that it was the common 
>> talk
>> of the day, that more of our men were being killed by medical shots 
>> than by
>> enemy shots from guns. Thousands were invalided home or to military
>> hospitals, as hopeless wrecks, before they ever saw a day of battle. The
>> death and disease rate among the vaccinated soldiers was four times 
>> higher
>> than among the unvaccinated civilians. But this did not stop the vaccine
>> promoters. Vaccine has always been big business, and so it was continued
>> doggedly."
>> *
>> from my research
>>
>> Vaccines in  use during WWI
>>
>> Besides smallpox vaccine, there is a history of typhoid vaccines, plague
>> vaccines, diphtheria, rabies vaccine, tetanus antitoxin
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.who.int/vaccines-diseases/history/history.shtml
>> # 1885   Rabies
>> # 1897   Plague
>>
>> http://www.worldpsychology.net/World%20Psychology/OriginalCorePages/marriage 
>>
>> 8.htm
>> 1895 Diptheria vaccination program begins. Over the period lasting until
>> 1907, 63,249 cases of diptheria were treated with anti-toxin. Over 8,900
>> died, giving a fatality rate of 14%. Over the same period, 11,716 cases
>> were not treated with anti-toxin, of which 703 died, giving a fatality 
>> rate
>> of 6%.
>>
>> 1919 Diptheria vaccinations injure 60 and kill 10 in Texas.
>>
>> http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/2003/05/08/story265526733.asp
>> But US Army records show that seven men dropped dead after being 
>> vaccinated.
>>
>> A report from US Secretary of War Henry L Stimson not only verified these
>> deaths but also stated that there had been 63 deaths and 28,585 cases of
>> hepatitis as a direct result of yellow fever vaccination during only six
>> months of the war.
>>
>> That was only one of the 14 to 25 shots given to recruits.
>>
>> Army records also reveal that after vaccination became compulsory in 
>> the US
>> Army in 1911, not only did typhoid increase rapidly but all other 
>> vaccinal
>> diseases increased at an alarming rate.
>>
>> After America entered the war in 1917, the death rate from typhoid
>> vaccination rose to the highest point in the history of the US Army.
>>
>> The deaths occurred after the shots were given in sanitary American
>> hospitals and well-supervised army camps in France, where sanitation had
>> been practised for years.
>>
>> The report of the Surgeon-General of the US Army shows that during 1917
>> there were admitted into the army hospitals 19,608 men suffering from
>> anti-typhoid inoculation and vaccinia.
>>
>> **
>> http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-35678
>> Tetanus
>>from the medicine, history of article
>> The other great hazard of war that was brought under control in World 
>> War I
>> was tetanus. This was achieved by the prophylactic injection of tetanus
>> antitoxin into all wounded men. The serum was originally prepared by the
>> bacteriologists Emil von Behring and Shibasaburo Kitasato in 1890–92, and
>> the results of this first large-scale trial amply confirmed its 
>> efficacy. ...
>>
>> In 1897 the English bacteriologist Almroth Wright introduced a vaccine
>> prepared from killed typhoid bacilli as a preventive of typhoid.
>> Preliminary trials in the Indian army produced excellent results, and
>> typhoid vaccination was adopted for the use of British troops serving in
>> the South African War. Unfortunately, the method of administration was
>> inadequately
>>
>> ***
>> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_ui 
>>
>> ds=10963505&dopt=Citation
>>  South Med J. 2000 Aug;93(8):763-7. Related Articles, Links
>>
>> 'Bacilli and bullets': William Osler and the antivaccination 
>> movement.
>>
>> Greenberg SB.
>>
>> Department of Medicine, Microbiology and Immunology, Baylor 
>> College of
>> Medicine, Houston, Texas 77030, USA.
>>
>> Public discourse concerning current vaccination recommendations has
>> dramatically increased. The current battle is not new, having had a 
>> lengthy
>> foreshadowing during the 19th and early 20th centuries. Over a 30-year
>> period, a concerte

Re: [Biofuel] Bob Allen -Other Vaccines during WWI - THE 1918 INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC

2005-12-06 Thread Zeke Yewdall
If vaccines are big business being forced on us for profit, then why
does no one want to actually make them.  Last year, less than half of
the people in the US who wanted to get flu vaccines couldn't even get
them, because there was only one or two companies who produced them,
and one got shut down.  Wouldn't the big drug companies be falling
over themselves to get into this business if there was any money to be
made in it?  Vaccinating someone only gets you $5, once a year for
flu, or maybe $60 once every 10 years for other stuff.  Better to sell
them fancy patented drugs for $80 a month...


On 12/6/05, Marylynn Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >"THE 1918 INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC WAS A VACCINE-CAUSED DISEASE
> >E. McBean (Vaccination The Silent Killer p28)
> >
> >Very few people realize that the worst epidemic ever to hit America, the
> >Spanish Influenza of 1918 was the after effect of the massive nation-wide
> >vaccine campaign. ..
> >
> >If we check back in history to that 1918 flu period, we will see that it
> >suddenly struck just after the end of World War I when our soldiers were
> >returning home from overseas. That was the first war in which all the known
> >vaccines were forced on all the servicemen. This mish-mash of poison drugs
> >and putrid protein of which the vaccines were composed, caused such
> >widespread disease and death among the soldiers that it was the common talk
> >of the day, that more of our men were being killed by medical shots than by
> >enemy shots from guns. Thousands were invalided home or to military
> >hospitals, as hopeless wrecks, before they ever saw a day of battle. The
> >death and disease rate among the vaccinated soldiers was four times higher
> >than among the unvaccinated civilians. But this did not stop the vaccine
> >promoters. Vaccine has always been big business, and so it was continued
> >doggedly."
> >*
> >from my research
> >
> >Vaccines in  use during WWI
> >
> >Besides smallpox vaccine, there is a history of typhoid vaccines, plague
> >vaccines, diphtheria, rabies vaccine, tetanus antitoxin
> >
> >
> >
> >http://www.who.int/vaccines-diseases/history/history.shtml
> ># 1885   Rabies
> ># 1897   Plague
> >
> >http://www.worldpsychology.net/World%20Psychology/OriginalCorePages/marriage
> >8.htm
> >1895 Diptheria vaccination program begins. Over the period lasting until
> >1907, 63,249 cases of diptheria were treated with anti-toxin. Over 8,900
> >died, giving a fatality rate of 14%. Over the same period, 11,716 cases
> >were not treated with anti-toxin, of which 703 died, giving a fatality rate
> >of 6%.
> >
> >1919 Diptheria vaccinations injure 60 and kill 10 in Texas.
> >
> >http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/2003/05/08/story265526733.asp
> >But US Army records show that seven men dropped dead after being
> >vaccinated.
> >
> >A report from US Secretary of War Henry L Stimson not only verified these
> >deaths but also stated that there had been 63 deaths and 28,585 cases of
> >hepatitis as a direct result of yellow fever vaccination during only six
> >months of the war.
> >
> >That was only one of the 14 to 25 shots given to recruits.
> >
> >Army records also reveal that after vaccination became compulsory in the US
> >Army in 1911, not only did typhoid increase rapidly but all other vaccinal
> >diseases increased at an alarming rate.
> >
> >After America entered the war in 1917, the death rate from typhoid
> >vaccination rose to the highest point in the history of the US Army.
> >
> >The deaths occurred after the shots were given in sanitary American
> >hospitals and well-supervised army camps in France, where sanitation had
> >been practised for years.
> >
> >The report of the Surgeon-General of the US Army shows that during 1917
> >there were admitted into the army hospitals 19,608 men suffering from
> >anti-typhoid inoculation and vaccinia.
> >
> >**
> >http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-35678
> >   Tetanus
> >from the medicine, history of article
> >The other great hazard of war that was brought under control in World War I
> >was tetanus. This was achieved by the prophylactic injection of tetanus
> >antitoxin into all wounded men. The serum was originally prepared by the
> >bacteriologists Emil von Behring and Shibasaburo Kitasato in 1890–92, and
> >the results of this first large-scale trial amply confirmed its efficacy.
> >...
> >
> >In 1897 the English bacteriologist Almroth Wright introduced a vaccine
> >prepared from killed typhoid bacilli as a preventive of typhoid.
> >Preliminary trials in the Indian army produced excellent results, and
> >typhoid vaccination was adopted for the use of British troops serving in
> >the South African War. Unfortunately, the method of administration was
> >inadequately
> >
> >***
> >http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_ui
> >ds=10963505&dopt=Citation
> >  South Med J. 2000 Aug;93(8):763-7.   Related Articles, Links

[Biofuel] Bob Allen -Other Vaccines during WWI - THE 1918 INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC

2005-12-06 Thread Marylynn Schmidt

"THE 1918 INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC WAS A VACCINE-CAUSED DISEASE
E. McBean (Vaccination The Silent Killer p28)

Very few people realize that the worst epidemic ever to hit America, the
Spanish Influenza of 1918 was the after effect of the massive nation-wide
vaccine campaign. ..

If we check back in history to that 1918 flu period, we will see that it
suddenly struck just after the end of World War I when our soldiers were
returning home from overseas. That was the first war in which all the known
vaccines were forced on all the servicemen. This mish-mash of poison drugs
and putrid protein of which the vaccines were composed, caused such
widespread disease and death among the soldiers that it was the common talk
of the day, that more of our men were being killed by medical shots than by
enemy shots from guns. Thousands were invalided home or to military
hospitals, as hopeless wrecks, before they ever saw a day of battle. The
death and disease rate among the vaccinated soldiers was four times higher
than among the unvaccinated civilians. But this did not stop the vaccine
promoters. Vaccine has always been big business, and so it was continued
doggedly."
*
from my research

Vaccines in  use during WWI

Besides smallpox vaccine, there is a history of typhoid vaccines, plague
vaccines, diphtheria, rabies vaccine, tetanus antitoxin



http://www.who.int/vaccines-diseases/history/history.shtml
# 1885   Rabies
# 1897   Plague

http://www.worldpsychology.net/World%20Psychology/OriginalCorePages/marriage
8.htm
1895 Diptheria vaccination program begins. Over the period lasting until
1907, 63,249 cases of diptheria were treated with anti-toxin. Over 8,900
died, giving a fatality rate of 14%. Over the same period, 11,716 cases
were not treated with anti-toxin, of which 703 died, giving a fatality rate
of 6%.

1919 Diptheria vaccinations injure 60 and kill 10 in Texas.

http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/2003/05/08/story265526733.asp
But US Army records show that seven men dropped dead after being 
vaccinated.


A report from US Secretary of War Henry L Stimson not only verified these
deaths but also stated that there had been 63 deaths and 28,585 cases of
hepatitis as a direct result of yellow fever vaccination during only six
months of the war.

That was only one of the 14 to 25 shots given to recruits.

Army records also reveal that after vaccination became compulsory in the US
Army in 1911, not only did typhoid increase rapidly but all other vaccinal
diseases increased at an alarming rate.

After America entered the war in 1917, the death rate from typhoid
vaccination rose to the highest point in the history of the US Army.

The deaths occurred after the shots were given in sanitary American
hospitals and well-supervised army camps in France, where sanitation had
been practised for years.

The report of the Surgeon-General of the US Army shows that during 1917
there were admitted into the army hospitals 19,608 men suffering from
anti-typhoid inoculation and vaccinia.

**
http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-35678
Tetanus
   from the medicine, history of article
The other great hazard of war that was brought under control in World War I
was tetanus. This was achieved by the prophylactic injection of tetanus
antitoxin into all wounded men. The serum was originally prepared by the
bacteriologists Emil von Behring and Shibasaburo Kitasato in 1890–92, and
the results of this first large-scale trial amply confirmed its efficacy. 
...


In 1897 the English bacteriologist Almroth Wright introduced a vaccine
prepared from killed typhoid bacilli as a preventive of typhoid.
Preliminary trials in the Indian army produced excellent results, and
typhoid vaccination was adopted for the use of British troops serving in
the South African War. Unfortunately, the method of administration was
inadequately

***
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_ui
ds=10963505&dopt=Citation
 South Med J. 2000 Aug;93(8):763-7. Related Articles, Links

'Bacilli and bullets': William Osler and the antivaccination movement.

Greenberg SB.

Department of Medicine, Microbiology and Immunology, Baylor College of
Medicine, Houston, Texas 77030, USA.

Public discourse concerning current vaccination recommendations has
dramatically increased. The current battle is not new, having had a lengthy
foreshadowing during the 19th and early 20th centuries. Over a 30-year
period, a concerted effort to limit the use of smallpox vaccine grew at the
very time typhoid vaccines were being developed and advocated for
widespread prevention. As a long time advocate for widespread smallpox
vaccination and a supporter of the newly tested typhoid vaccine, Sir
William Osler entered the public debate at the beginning of World War I.
Osler was asked to address the officers and men in the British army on the
need for typhoid vaccination. His speech entitled "Bacilli and Bulle