Re: [Biofuel] Chrysler launches diesel Jeep, allows B5 biodiesel blends
Hey Keith, This is an interesting article. I've heard that DaimlerChrysler was going to introduce diesel engines in the Jeep Liberty, Grand Cherokee, the Dodge Durango (or as I call it, the 'Derange-o) either in 2005 or 2006 model year. I'm glad to know that my source was right on target. I probably have already seen the explaination somewhere, but why do the F.I.E. folks recommend only 5% BD. I haven't tried to make BD with soybean oil, just canola/corn/veggie the orange stuff I got from the fish chips shop. Oh well, maybe it will be where I can trade in the next year or so for a newer Jeep Grand Cherokee with a diesel engine. Pardon my ramblings, but I'm having dilusions of biodiesel at present. Respectfully yours, Gregg Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DieselNet UPDATE September 2004 http://www.dieselnet.com/ Chrysler launches diesel Jeep, allows B5 biodiesel blends DaimlerChrysler announced that each new 2005 Jeep Liberty sport- utility vehicle rolling off the assembly line will be fueled with 5% biodiesel blend (B5). The first Liberty diesel will be produced in November in the Jeep Liberty plant in Toledo, OH. The Jeep Liberty diesel, the first diesel-powered mid-size SUV to be offered in the USA, will be powered with a 2.8-liter 4-cylinder Common Rail Diesel (CRD) engine. The acceleration of the 4-cylinder CRD diesel vehicle is comparable to that of a V6 gasoline engine, and the torque output to that of a gasoline V8. The Liberty CRD diesel will achieve 22 mpg (10.7 l/100 km) city and 27 mpg (8.7 l/100 km) highway, overall approximately 30% better than Liberty's comparable 3.7-liter V-6 gasoline engine. In addition to the reduction in fuel consumption, the diesel engine also brings a 20% reduction in greenhouse gas emissions compared with gasoline engines, said DaimlerChrysler. Biodiesel fuel, manufactured in the USA mostly from soy beans, is a renewable fuel which brings substantial reductions in the life cycle greenhouse gas emissions (most of carbon dioxide released when the fuel is burned is matched by the amount of carbon dioxide absorbed by soy plants during growth). In addition, biodiesel produces certain emission reductions of PM, HC and CO. DaimlerChrysler said its Dodge Ram diesel pickup trucks have run successfully on B20 (20% biodiesel) blends in fleets required to use alternative fuels by the Energy Policy Act of 1992 (EPACT). However, due to lack of biodiesel fuel standards to guarantee consistent quality of B20 fuels, DaimlerChrysler recommends its diesel vehicles be run on a biodiesel blend of maximum 5% (B5). This recommendation is also consistent with the common position by fuel injection equipment manufacturers on the use of biodiesel in diesel engines. The CRD engine does not meet the LEV II emission standards that became effective this year in California. As a result, the Liberty diesel will not be available in California or in other states that adopted California emission standards (Massachusetts, Maine, New York, Vermont). http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104STORY=/www/story /09-09-2004/0002247062 FIE manufacturers position on biodiesel: http://www.dieselnet.com/tech/fuels/fie_fame_position_2000_06.pdf See: Fuel Injection Equipment (FIE) Manufacturers (Delphi, Stanadyne, Denso, Bosch) statement on biodiesel: Summary -- html http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_FIEM.html Full document -- Acrobat file, 104kb http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/FIEM.pdf ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ - Do you Yahoo!? vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today! ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
RE: [Biofuel] Chrysler launches diesel Jeep, allows B5 biodiesel blends
content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I drive a 1983 K5 Blaxer with 6.2 L Diesel. and the closer I get to straight diesel in my blends, the more acrid and eye burning the fumes get. when I run B50 it is quite pleasant to be around. B100 is definately different but I have only done that a few times and not the whole tank. right now I am down to 1/4 tank and I had to fillup with straight Diesel the other day and the exhaust is pretty bad. But I am hoping to get 50 gallons of B100 tomorrow and blend a B50 for driving the next few weeks. At the rate I am burning, it might be worth it to have a freight truck deliver me a barrel or two of straight vegetable and go SVO for the long miles and B50 for cranking and heating. Once you start making or blending your own fuel, you realize how much you just pumped and went fefore. :) mel -Original Message- From: Gregg Davidson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 9/30/2004 6:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Chrysler launches diesel Jeep,allows B5 biodiesel blends Hey Keith, This is an interesting article. I've heard that DaimlerChrysler was going to introduce diesel engines in the Jeep Liberty, Grand Cherokee, the Dodge Durango (or as I call it, the 'Derange-o) either in 2005 or 2006 model year. I'm glad to know that my source was right on target. I probably have already seen the explaination somewhere, but why do the F.I.E. folks recommend only 5% BD. I haven't tried to make BD with soybean oil, just canola/corn/veggie the orange stuff I got from the fish chips shop. Oh well, maybe it will be where I can trade in the next year or so for a newer Jeep Grand Cherokee with a diesel engine. Pardon my ramblings, but I'm having dilusions of biodiesel at present. Respectfully yours, Gregg Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DieselNet UPDATE September 2004 http://www.dieselnet.com/ Chrysler launches diesel Jeep, allows B5 biodiesel blends DaimlerChrysler announced that each new 2005 Jeep Liberty sport- utility vehicle rolling off the assembly line will be fueled with 5% biodiesel blend (B5). The first Liberty diesel will be produced in November in the Jeep Liberty plant in Toledo, OH. The Jeep Liberty diesel, the first diesel-powered mid-size SUV to be offered in the USA, will be powered with a 2.8-liter 4-cylinder Common Rail Diesel (CRD) engine. The acceleration of the 4-cylinder CRD diesel vehicle is comparable to that of a V6 gasoline engine, and the torque output to that of a gasoline V8. The Liberty CRD diesel will achieve 22 mpg (10.7 l/100 km) city and 27 mpg (8.7 l/100 km) highway, overall approximately 30% better than Liberty's comparable 3.7-liter V-6 gasoline engine. In addition to the reduction in fuel consumption, the diesel engine also brings a 20% reduction in greenhouse gas emissions compared with gasoline engines, said DaimlerChrysler. Biodiesel fuel, manufactured in the USA mostly from soy beans, is a renewable fuel which brings substantial reductions in the life cycle greenhouse gas emissions (most of carbon dioxide released when the fuel is burned is matched by the amount of carbon dioxide absorbed by soy plants during growth). In addition, biodiesel produces certain emission reductions of PM, HC and CO. DaimlerChrysler said its Dodge Ram diesel pickup trucks have run successfully on B20 (20% biodiesel) blends in fleets required to use alternative fuels by the Energy Policy Act of 1992 (EPACT). However, due to lack of biodiesel fuel standards to guarantee consistent quality of B20 fuels, DaimlerChrysler recommends its diesel vehicles be run on a biodiesel blend of maximum 5% (B5). This recommendation is also consistent with the common position by fuel injection equipment manufacturers on the use of biodiesel in diesel engines. The CRD engine does not meet the LEV II emission standards that became effective this year in California. As a result, the Liberty diesel will not be available in California or in other states that adopted California emission standards (Massachusetts, Maine, New York, Vermont). http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104STORY=/www/story /09-09-2004/0002247062 FIE manufacturers position on biodiesel: http://www.dieselnet.com/tech/fuels/fie_fame_position_2000_06.pdf See: Fuel Injection
Re: [Biofuel] Chrysler launches diesel Jeep, allows B5 biodiesel blends
Hey Keith, This is an interesting article. I've heard that DaimlerChrysler was going to introduce diesel engines in the Jeep Liberty, Grand Cherokee, the Dodge Durango (or as I call it, the 'Derange-o) either in 2005 or 2006 model year. I'm glad to know that my source was right on target. I probably have already seen the explaination somewhere, but why do the F.I.E. folks recommend only 5% BD. I haven't tried to make BD with soybean oil, just canola/corn/veggie the orange stuff I got from the fish chips shop. Oh well, maybe it will be where I can trade in the next year or so for a newer Jeep Grand Cherokee with a diesel engine. Pardon my ramblings, but I'm having dilusions of biodiesel at present. === Gregg, It mentioned in the original post that Chrysler did not want to certify the engines using B20 or higher, because of the often mentioned (on this list too) fact that quality standards are lacking for the higher concentration of biodiesel in the USA markets. Let's face it, the USA is in its infancy for biodoesel use in mass quanities. But it will change. Ron B. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Chrysler launches diesel Jeep, allows B5 biodiesel blends
Hi Ron, Thanks for the reply. I can't, will not speak for others, but I am doing my part to help out. Gregg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Keith, This is an interesting article. I've heard that DaimlerChrysler was going to introduce diesel engines in the Jeep Liberty, Grand Cherokee, the Dodge Durango (or as I call it, the 'Derange-o) either in 2005 or 2006 model year. I'm glad to know that my source was right on target. I probably have already seen the explaination somewhere, but why do the F.I.E. folks recommend only 5% BD. I haven't tried to make BD with soybean oil, just canola/corn/veggie the orange stuff I got from the fish chips shop. Oh well, maybe it will be where I can trade in the next year or so for a newer Jeep Grand Cherokee with a diesel engine. Pardon my ramblings, but I'm having dilusions of biodiesel at present. === Gregg, It mentioned in the original post that Chrysler did not want to certify the engines using B20 or higher, because of the often mentioned (on this list too) fact that quality standards are lacking for the higher concentration of biodiesel in the USA markets. Let's face it, the USA is in its infancy for biodoesel use in mass quanities. But it will change. Ron B. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ - Do you Yahoo!? Y! Messenger - Communicate in real time. Download now. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Chrysler launches diesel Jeep, allows B5 biodiesel blends
September 2004 http://www.dieselnet.com/ Chrysler launches diesel Jeep, allows B5 biodiesel blends DaimlerChrysler announced that each new 2005 Jeep Liberty sport- utility vehicle rolling off the assembly line will be fueled with 5% biodiesel blend (B5). The first Liberty diesel will be produced in November in the Jeep Liberty plant in Toledo, OH. The Jeep Liberty diesel, the first diesel-powered mid-size SUV to be offered in the USA, will be powered with a 2.8-liter 4-cylinder Common Rail Diesel (CRD) engine. The acceleration of the 4-cylinder CRD diesel vehicle is comparable to that of a V6 gasoline engine, and the torque output to that of a gasoline V8. The Liberty CRD diesel will achieve 22 mpg (10.7 l/100 km) city and 27 mpg (8.7 l/100 km) highway, overall approximately 30% better than Liberty's comparable 3.7-liter V-6 gasoline engine. In addition to the reduction in fuel consumption, the diesel engine also brings a 20% reduction in greenhouse gas emissions compared with gasoline engines, said DaimlerChrysler. Biodiesel fuel, manufactured in the USA mostly from soy beans, is a renewable fuel which brings substantial reductions in the life cycle greenhouse gas emissions (most of carbon dioxide released when the fuel is burned is matched by the amount of carbon dioxide absorbed by soy plants during growth). In addition, biodiesel produces certain emission reductions of PM, HC and CO. DaimlerChrysler said its Dodge Ram diesel pickup trucks have run successfully on B20 (20% biodiesel) blends in fleets required to use alternative fuels by the Energy Policy Act of 1992 (EPACT). However, due to lack of biodiesel fuel standards to guarantee consistent quality of B20 fuels, DaimlerChrysler recommends its diesel vehicles be run on a biodiesel blend of maximum 5% (B5). This recommendation is also consistent with the common position by fuel injection equipment manufacturers on the use of biodiesel in diesel engines. The CRD engine does not meet the LEV II emission standards that became effective this year in California. As a result, the Liberty diesel will not be available in California or in other states that adopted California emission standards (Massachusetts, Maine, New York, Vermont). http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104STORY=/www/story /09-09-2004/0002247062 FIE manufacturers position on biodiesel: http://www.dieselnet.com/tech/fuels/fie_fame_position_2000_06.pdf See: Fuel Injection Equipment (FIE) Manufacturers (Delphi, Stanadyne, Denso, Bosch) statement on biodiesel: Summary -- html http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_FIEM.html Full document -- Acrobat file, 104kb http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/FIEM.pdf ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
