Robert - Emisssions per kwh can be obtained from EPA. P. Wolfe
--- Robert Del Bueno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I never intended the use of biodiesel. > The idea is for reclaimed waste vegetable oils. > > I am curious on if anyone has given thought to the > emissions per kWh of > such a setup versus coal fired plant (...who in our > area are successful in > avoiding EPA New Source Review regulations, and > continue to spew). > > Also considering the addition of a pre-combustion > fuel catalyst, and > additional after treament (because of dedicated veg > use). > > > At 01:28 PM 10/8/2004, you wrote: > >Lyle, > > > > > Is it not true that the grid is so much more > efficient than Rob's > > > generator that making electricity from biodiesel > is a waste of > > > perfectly good fuel? > > > >I don't know about that. Do you think that an > approximate 65% loss in energy > >from fuel source to your duplex outlet is very > efficient? > > > >That's the loss achieved by the grid that provides > electrical service to > >you. > > > >You may be right about a fairly needless waste of > biodiesel, however. > >Especially when gensets operate under constant load > and for the most part > >are capable of running on WVO/SVO. The inclusion of > more energy inputs by > >making biodiesel might be unnecessary in many > instances. > > > >Todd Swearingen > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Lyle Estill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:34 PM > >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Back to grid via WVO genset > > > > > > > Gang, > > > > > > I've enjoyed this thread for awhile now, and > have finally found the > > > courage to post. > > > > > > Is it not true that the grid is so much more > efficient than Rob's > > > generator that making electricity from biodiesel > is a waste of > > > perfectly good fuel? > > > > > > From a conservation standpoint (strictly > BTUs--forget geopolitical > > > arguments for a moment), he is better off > running his studio on grid. > > > > > > > > > On Oct 7, 2004, at 11:23 PM, Appal Energy wrote: > > > > > > > Kirk, > > > > > > > > Did that fellow say that "every China diesel > owner achieved in excess > > > > of > > > > 10,000 hours?" Or was he only pointing to the > exceptions? It would > > > > also be a > > > > rather rare truck that got one million miles > before it had to have the > > > > top > > > > end and rings done. 300-500,000 is a more real > breaking point there. > > > > You're > > > > also speaking of relatively small horsepower > and not a great deal of > > > > engine > > > > mass. Don't think you can compare the odd duck > of a truck to the whole > > > > roost. > > > > > > > > Todd Swearingen > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Kirk McLoren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 8:26 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Back to grid via WVO > genset > > > > > > > > > > > >> That fellow "Skip" who wrote "More Power to > You" said he knew China > > > >> diesel > > > > owners that had in excess of 10,000 hours > without a rebuild. We know > > > > trucks > > > > go 1000000 miles and at an avg of 50mph that > is 20.000 hours > > > >> > > > >> Kirk > > > >> > > > >> Appal Energy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Robert, > > > >> > > > >>> What is the flaw I am missing? > > > >> > > > >> You don't use all 2,000 kWh in 2-3 hour > blocks. To make your idea work > > > >> without a storage system you would have to > conduct all your energy > > > > consuming > > > >> activities within that narrow time window. > You'd probably be best > > > >> served > > > > by > > > >> installing a battery bank and converter and > cycle your gennie as > > > >> required. > > > >> > > > >> You've also got to "depreciate" your gennie. > Check the manufacturer's > > > >> estimated life cycle. Usually they're only > 2-3 thousand hours before a > > > >> rebuild is necessary, meaning that you'll be > buying a new gennie or > > > >> paying > > > >> the rebuild costs every second or third year. > > > >> > > > >> Todd Swearingen > > > >> > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >> From: "Robert Del Bueno" > > > >> To: > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 10:11 PM > > > >> Subject: [Biofuel] Back to grid via WVO > genset > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> So looking at my power bill for my recording > studio business, we use > > > >>> on > > > >>> average about 2000kWH per month. > > > >>> If I were to run a 30kW diesel genset on SVO > for 2.5 hours a day, 30 > > > > days > > > >> a > > > >>> month... > > > >>> > > > >>> 75Hx30kW=2250kWH ... > > > >>> > > > >>> I know that net-metering in Georgia does not > pay retail rates for > > > > intertie > > > >>> power, but hell, even if I had to run for > 3-4 hours a day, seems > > > >>> like I > > > >>> could do well. > > > >>> Of course using a water cooled genset, I > would also use the hot water > > > > for > > > >>> heating applications. > > > >>> I have a steady supply of good SVO. > > > >>> And 30kw diesel genset available very > affordable. > > > >>> I know the intertie/net metering equipment > costs a fair amount, but > > > >>> will > > > >> be > > > >>> applicable for future solar pv use as well. > > > >>> > > > >>> What is the flaw I am missing? > > > >>> -Rob > > > >>> > > > >>> > _______________________________________________ > > > >>> Biofuel mailing list > > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel > > > >>> > > > >>> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > > >>> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > >>> > > > >>> Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net > (searchable): > > > >>> http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > === message truncated === _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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