Re: [Biofuel] FYI - I'm back from Nova Scotia. What a great time!
Can't find your photos. Do you have more info on finding them. Jeff Lyles wrote: Hi, I have posted a few pictures on http://www.frappr.com/c/user/createamap http://www.frappr.com/?a=myfrappr website. I have also posted pictures on the web shots website. After I join frappr, I uploaded a few photos. Photography is a hobby of mine. If you posted any pictures there, I would like to see them. Jeff - Original Message - From: Mike Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 5:06 AM Subject: [Biofuel] FYI - I'm back from Nova Scotia. What a great time! Hi everyone, As someone who never placed much emphasis on the meaning of weddings, believes that a marriage is left to the interpretation of those who decide to make such a commitment and that it should NEVER include or require a government form or record, I conceded on July 15th. Sometimes it's good to pick fights wisely for the sake of maintaining harmony in one's (mostly conservative) family. The good news is that our wedding was a blast! It was an ethnic German (Bavarian) theme and roughly 1/3 of the guests were in traditional garb. That's right Fritz, for the men, that means Lederhosen! Last week, we spent our honeymoon in Baddeck - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia and absolutely loved it! I don't know if Bob reported back on his experience in that region but, I was amazed at their effort to conserve and protect nature. We took day trips on the Cabot Trail, hiked, bicycled and Kayaked. We had almost daily sightings of bald eagles and two close encounters with moose. We sailed on a schooner and spotted dolphins, puffins and other wildlife. Most importantly, we tried our best to leave only footprints and take only memories. I'll try to get the pictures up somewhere in case some of you are curious. -Redler ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/401 - Release Date: 7/26/2006 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] FYI - I'm back from Nova Scotia. What a great time!
This link should get you there: http://www.frappr.com/?a=widgetlandingfid=1554278iv=1hash=oo0q7 Jeff - Original Message - From: John Mullan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 5:45 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] FYI - I'm back from Nova Scotia. What a great time! Can't find your photos. Do you have more info on finding them. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] FYI - I'm back from Nova Scotia. What a great time!
Hi Darryl, et al Thanks. I agree. Time away from the computer was tough sometimes. Bell museum: Yes! It was great (especially the hydrofoil exhibit)! Thanks for asking. I looked at some of the places you mentioned and put your message in a place where I can't lose it. I hope to see some of the same places some day. Thanks again. -Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike, glad to hear you enjoyed Cape Breton. I hope you got to the Bell Museum while in Baddeck. Fascinating stuff. I am still catching up with e-mail and other things that accumulated while on vacation with my wife and son. In retrospect, 2 weeks without computers was refreshing and pleasant. (I only had to look into fixing one in the course of my travels, and fortunately was able to delegate that task to my son.) Sadly, most of our trip was fuelled without biofuels - ethanol blended fuel was hard to find in the Canadian Maritimes. However, we managed to find several points of interest in our travels. On Prince Edward Island, we visited the North Cape wind power complex (Canadian Atlantic Wind Testing Site). There are some sixteen megawatt-plus turbines installed here, and all were producing for the duration of our visit. Again (I have visited other large turbine sites), I found the turbines to be majestic, not an eyesore. About 50 metres from the base of one of the turbines, we could hear nothing from the turbine over the sound of the wind itself. This site produces about 5% of the province's electricity, and there are plans to expand it to about 10%. Another site (West Cape) is currently being evaluated. There was supposed to be a wind-hydrogen pilot plant/project here as well, but apparently public funding and private-sector enthusiasm has waned since the announcement about a year ago, and there is nothing here yet beyond the PR display panels. In Nova Scotia, we found several points of interest. The first thing I noted was that many of the houses now have central air conditioning units, an extreme rarity a decade ago. The residents are agreed that summer temperatures are significantly warmer now than ten years ago, and wind speeds are increasing. In fact, there is a wind turbine on a ridge not far from Scotsburn, near my mother's original home. Summer kitchens in older homes are being renovated and put back into use. Both my uncle and my cousin have drain-back solar water heating systems in place on the rooftops of their houses, and my cousin has installed an electro-thermal heating unit in his house (it consumes electrical power at night at off-peak rates and stores it in a thermal mass - may also include phase-change material - to provide heat to the structure during the day without consuming electricity at peak demand periods). They also have an electric hot water tank that can heat with both elements at off-peak times, but only use one element at peak times. Just interesting bits of technology I have not seen here at home. We visited a steam-powered saw mill. Heat for the boiler was produced from either sawdust or the scrap wood from the side slabs that are by-products of the milling process. Biofuelled and re-use of waste product produced on-site. Surplus bark and side slabs were sold locally as firewood. The facility also provided hot bath water to employees from the waste heat of the steam engine operation. Fire protection was based on a large number of water barrels mounted on the ridge-line of the roof connected to hoses in the building. Furniture and other wood products were manufactured on the second floor of the structure. We visited a grist mill that was originally powered by run-of-river water power utilizing a small mill pond. Interesting note, the water wheel on the side of the building is a fake. The mill originally ran using a submerged water turbine (more efficient), but a submerged turbine doesn't have the tourist appeal of a visible overshoot water wheel, so that was added as part of the refurbishing as a working museum. Still, the complexity of the inner workings with multiple grinding operations (four), elevators with auto-shut-offs, drum sifter, etc. all working off belts from one main power shaft was a tribute to ingenuity of the miller. Clutches, gears, transmissions all fashioned from wood, leather and rope. The physics and mechanics of the millstones were also fascinating. The whole operation ran on the equivalent of less than 5 hp. Interestingly, the miller was also a forester - he maintained a significant stand of maple trees to be used to fire a kiln to dry and smoke the oats before they were milled. Maple syrup and sugar products were another by-product of that operation. We visited the Tidal Power Pilot Project at Annapolis Royal. This plant produces up to 20 megawatts of power, and is operational about 11 hours a day. It operates only when the tide is going out, due to the orientation of the
[Biofuel] FYI - I'm back from Nova Scotia. What a great time!
Hi everyone, As someone who never placed much emphasis on the meaning of weddings, believes that a marriage is left to the interpretation of those who decide to make such a commitment and that it should NEVER include or require a government form or record, I conceded on July 15th. Sometimes it's good to pick fights wisely for the sake of maintaining harmony in one's (mostly conservative) family. The good news is that our wedding was a blast! It was an ethnic German (Bavarian) theme and roughly 1/3 of the guests were in traditional garb. That's right Fritz, for the men, that means Lederhosen! Last week, we spent our honeymoon in Baddeck - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia and absolutely loved it! I don't know if Bob reported back on his experience in that region but, I was amazed at their effort to conserve and protect nature. We took day trips on the Cabot Trail, hiked, bicycled and Kayaked. We had almost daily sightings of bald eagles and two close encounters with moose. We sailed on a schooner and spotted dolphins, puffins and other wildlife. Most importantly, we tried our best to leave only footprints and take only memories. I'll try to get the pictures up somewhere in case some of you are curious. -Redler ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] FYI - I'm back from Nova Scotia. What a great time!
Hey Mike, Way to go!! Congrats and good Luck to the newly wedd! Fritz - Original Message - From: Mike Redler To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 8:06 AM Subject: [Biofuel] FYI - I'm back from Nova Scotia. What a great time! Hi everyone,As someone who never placed much emphasis on the meaning of weddings, believes that a marriage is left to the interpretation of those who decide to make such a commitment and that it should NEVER include or require a government form or record, I conceded on July 15th. Sometimes it's good to pick fights wisely for the sake of maintaining harmony in one's (mostly conservative) family.The good news is that our wedding was a blast! It was an ethnic German (Bavarian) theme and roughly 1/3 of the guests were in traditional garb. That's right Fritz, for the men, that means Lederhosen!Last week, we spent our honeymoon in Baddeck - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia and absolutely loved it! I don't know if Bob reported back on his experience in that region but, I was amazed at their effort to conserve and protect nature. We took day trips on the Cabot Trail, hiked, bicycled and Kayaked. We had almost daily sightings of bald eagles and two close encounters with moose. We sailed on a schooner and spotted dolphins, puffins and other wildlife. Most importantly, we tried our best to "leave only footprints and take only memories".I'll try to get the pictures up somewhere in case some of you are curious.-Redler___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] FYI - I'm back from Nova Scotia. What a great time!
Love to see the picsMike Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone,As someone who never placed much emphasis on the meaning of weddings, believes that a marriage is left to the interpretation of those who decide to make such a commitment and that it should NEVER include or require a government form or record, I conceded on July 15th. Sometimes it's good to pick fights wisely for the sake of maintaining harmony in one's (mostly conservative) family.The good news is that our wedding was a blast! It was an ethnic German (Bavarian) theme and roughly 1/3 of the guests were in traditional garb. That's right Fritz, for the men, that means Lederhosen!Last week, we spent our honeymoon in Baddeck - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia and absolutely loved it! I don't know if Bob reported back on his experience in that region but, I was amazed at their effort to conserve and protect nature. We took day trips on the Cabot Trail, hiked, bicycled and Kayaked. We had almost daily sightings of bald eagles and two close encounters with moose. We sailed on a schooner and spotted dolphins, puffins and other wildlife. Most importantly, we tried our best to "leave only footprints and take only memories".I'll try to get the pictures up somewhere in case some of you are curious.-Redler___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] FYI - I'm back from Nova Scotia. What a great time!
Mike, glad to hear you enjoyed Cape Breton. I hope you got to the Bell Museum while in Baddeck. Fascinating stuff. I am still catching up with e-mail and other things that accumulated while on vacation with my wife and son. In retrospect, 2 weeks without computers was refreshing and pleasant. (I only had to look into fixing one in the course of my travels, and fortunately was able to delegate that task to my son.) Sadly, most of our trip was fuelled without biofuels - ethanol blended fuel was hard to find in the Canadian Maritimes. However, we managed to find several points of interest in our travels. On Prince Edward Island, we visited the North Cape wind power complex (Canadian Atlantic Wind Testing Site). There are some sixteen megawatt-plus turbines installed here, and all were producing for the duration of our visit. Again (I have visited other large turbine sites), I found the turbines to be majestic, not an eyesore. About 50 metres from the base of one of the turbines, we could hear nothing from the turbine over the sound of the wind itself. This site produces about 5% of the province's electricity, and there are plans to expand it to about 10%. Another site (West Cape) is currently being evaluated. There was supposed to be a wind-hydrogen pilot plant/project here as well, but apparently public funding and private-sector enthusiasm has waned since the announcement about a year ago, and there is nothing here yet beyond the PR display panels. In Nova Scotia, we found several points of interest. The first thing I noted was that many of the houses now have central air conditioning units, an extreme rarity a decade ago. The residents are agreed that summer temperatures are significantly warmer now than ten years ago, and wind speeds are increasing. In fact, there is a wind turbine on a ridge not far from Scotsburn, near my mother's original home. Summer kitchens in older homes are being renovated and put back into use. Both my uncle and my cousin have drain-back solar water heating systems in place on the rooftops of their houses, and my cousin has installed an electro-thermal heating unit in his house (it consumes electrical power at night at off-peak rates and stores it in a thermal mass - may also include phase-change material - to provide heat to the structure during the day without consuming electricity at peak demand periods). They also have an electric hot water tank that can heat with both elements at off-peak times, but only use one element at peak times. Just interesting bits of technology I have not seen here at home. We visited a steam-powered saw mill. Heat for the boiler was produced from either sawdust or the scrap wood from the side slabs that are by-products of the milling process. Biofuelled and re-use of waste product produced on-site. Surplus bark and side slabs were sold locally as firewood. The facility also provided hot bath water to employees from the waste heat of the steam engine operation. Fire protection was based on a large number of water barrels mounted on the ridge-line of the roof connected to hoses in the building. Furniture and other wood products were manufactured on the second floor of the structure. We visited a grist mill that was originally powered by run-of-river water power utilizing a small mill pond. Interesting note, the water wheel on the side of the building is a fake. The mill originally ran using a submerged water turbine (more efficient), but a submerged turbine doesn't have the tourist appeal of a visible overshoot water wheel, so that was added as part of the refurbishing as a working museum. Still, the complexity of the inner workings with multiple grinding operations (four), elevators with auto-shut-offs, drum sifter, etc. all working off belts from one main power shaft was a tribute to ingenuity of the miller. Clutches, gears, transmissions all fashioned from wood, leather and rope. The physics and mechanics of the millstones were also fascinating. The whole operation ran on the equivalent of less than 5 hp. Interestingly, the miller was also a forester - he maintained a significant stand of maple trees to be used to fire a kiln to dry and smoke the oats before they were milled. Maple syrup and sugar products were another by-product of that operation. We visited the Tidal Power Pilot Project at Annapolis Royal. This plant produces up to 20 megawatts of power, and is operational about 11 hours a day. It operates only when the tide is going out, due to the orientation of the water turbine, which is a modified version of a run of river plant developed in Switzerland. The main things being tested were the survivability of the turbine components in a salt-water and high-sediment environment, as well as anti-fouling techniques based on things other than conventional anti-fouling paint and chemicals. By most accounts, the project has been a success, though unlikely to be replicated on the Bay of Fundy due to NIMBY
Re: [Biofuel] FYI - I'm back from Nova Scotia. What a great time!
Hi, I have posted a few pictures on http://www.frappr.com/c/user/createamap http://www.frappr.com/?a=myfrappr website. I have also posted pictures on the web shots website. After I join frappr, I uploaded a few photos. Photography is a hobby of mine. If you posted any pictures there, I would like to see them. Jeff - Original Message - From: Mike Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 5:06 AM Subject: [Biofuel] FYI - I'm back from Nova Scotia. What a great time! Hi everyone, As someone who never placed much emphasis on the meaning of weddings, believes that a marriage is left to the interpretation of those who decide to make such a commitment and that it should NEVER include or require a government form or record, I conceded on July 15th. Sometimes it's good to pick fights wisely for the sake of maintaining harmony in one's (mostly conservative) family. The good news is that our wedding was a blast! It was an ethnic German (Bavarian) theme and roughly 1/3 of the guests were in traditional garb. That's right Fritz, for the men, that means Lederhosen! Last week, we spent our honeymoon in Baddeck - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia and absolutely loved it! I don't know if Bob reported back on his experience in that region but, I was amazed at their effort to conserve and protect nature. We took day trips on the Cabot Trail, hiked, bicycled and Kayaked. We had almost daily sightings of bald eagles and two close encounters with moose. We sailed on a schooner and spotted dolphins, puffins and other wildlife. Most importantly, we tried our best to leave only footprints and take only memories. I'll try to get the pictures up somewhere in case some of you are curious. -Redler ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/401 - Release Date: 7/26/2006 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] FYI - I'm back from Nova Scotia. What a great time!
one of the mail clients/servers might be asking for a verification reply. look into your client options and see if the option for read reciepts (or equivalent) is selected. Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] FYI - I'm back from Nova Scotia. What a great time! Mike, glad to hear you enjoyed Cape Breton. I hope you got to the Bell Museum while in Baddeck. Fascinating stuff. I am still catching up with e-mail and other things that accumulated while on vacation with my wife and son. In retrospect, 2 weeks without computers was refreshing and pleasant. (I only had to look into fixing one in the course of my travels, and fortunately was able to delegate that task to my son.) Sadly, most of our trip was fuelled without biofuels - ethanol blended fuel was hard to find in the Canadian Maritimes. However, we managed to find several points of interest in our travels. On Prince Edward Island, we visited the North Cape wind power complex (Canadian Atlantic Wind Testing Site). There are some sixteen megawatt-plus turbines installed here, and all were producing for the duration of our visit. Again (I have visited other large turbine sites), I found the turbines to be majestic, not an eyesore. About 50 metres from the base of one of the turbines, we could hear nothing from the turbine over the sound of the wind itself. This site produces about 5% of the province's electricity, and there are plans to expand it to about 10%. Another site (West Cape) is currently being evaluated. There was supposed to be a wind-hydrogen pilot plant/project here as well, but apparently public funding and private-sector enthusiasm has waned since the announcement about a year ago, and there is nothing here yet beyond the PR display panels. In Nova Scotia, we found several points of interest. The first thing I noted was that many of the houses now have central air conditioning units, an extreme rarity a decade ago. The residents are agreed that summer temperatures are significantly warmer now than ten years ago, and wind speeds are increasing. In fact, there is a wind turbine on a ridge not far from Scotsburn, near my mother's original home. Summer kitchens in older homes are being renovated and put back into use. Both my uncle and my cousin have drain-back solar water heating systems in place on the rooftops of their houses, and my cousin has installed an electro-thermal heating unit in his house (it consumes electrical power at night at off-peak rates and stores it in a thermal mass - may also include phase-change material - to provide heat to the structure during the day without consuming electricity at peak demand periods). They also have an electric hot water tank that can heat with both elements at off-peak times, but only use one element at peak times. Just interesting bits of technology I have not seen here at home. We visited a steam-powered saw mill. Heat for the boiler was produced from either sawdust or the scrap wood from the side slabs that are by-products of the milling process. Biofuelled and re-use of waste product produced on-site. Surplus bark and side slabs were sold locally as firewood. The facility also provided hot bath water to employees from the waste heat of the steam engine operation. Fire protection was based on a large number of water barrels mounted on the ridge-line of the roof connected to hoses in the building. Furniture and other wood products were manufactured on the second floor of the structure. We visited a grist mill that was originally powered by run-of-river water power utilizing a small mill pond. Interesting note, the water wheel on the side of the building is a fake. The mill originally ran using a submerged water turbine (more efficient), but a submerged turbine doesn't have the tourist appeal of a visible overshoot water wheel, so that was added as part of the refurbishing as a working museum. Still, the complexity of the inner workings with multiple grinding operations (four), elevators with auto-shut-offs, drum sifter, etc. all working off belts from one main power shaft was a tribute to ingenuity of the miller. Clutches, gears, transmissions all fashioned from wood, leather and rope. The physics and mechanics of the millstones were also fascinating. The whole operation ran on the equivalent of less than 5 hp. Interestingly, the miller was also a forester - he maintained a significant stand of maple trees to be used to fire a kiln to dry and smoke the oats before they were milled. Maple syrup and sugar products were another by-product of that operation. We visited the Tidal Power Pilot Project at Annapolis Royal. This plant produces up to 20 megawatts of power, and is operational about 11 hours a day. It operates only when
