Re: [Biofuel] Help with Processor
Hi Mark, If your thermostat can take the full current of your heating element, you just wire it in series. The rod type thermostat found in most UK domestic immersion heaters will work just fine for this. The down side is they are usually made of brass. If you do decide to use washing machine elements, I would reccomend using two in a 75 litre processor, giving a total output of approx 5kw. Wire them on separate circuits, one through the thermostat and one with just a switch. Use two elements to heat the oil up to working temperature, then switch to just one for the processing. Well that is how I would do it anyway. Cheers Bob Oh yes, I am in Northants - Original Message - From: Mark` Cookson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Help with Processor Bob Thanks for the offered help, I am at the moment trying to make a 75 litre processor.The stainless kettle element you bought for your first processor how did you rig up a therostat to it was it quite easy? P-S I am in Lancs are you any where near? Regards Mark From: Bob Carr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Help with Processor Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:22:47 +0100 Hi Mark, How big is your processor? I made my first 15 litre processor using a stainless kettle element, bought from a local electical store for just £4.50. It is still working fine after a year. I am now using a 150 litre processor that is heated by hot water from a home made gas boiler. The long term plan is to convert the boiler to run on a mixture of glycerol and bio heating oil, but I am not there yet. If you need help sourcing stuff locally, I will help wherever I can Regards Bob - Original Message - From: Mark` Cookson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Help with Processor keith Thanks for that, you can get stainless immersion heater[element] but they are a fortune to buy brand new. I thought any list members may know of other alternatives? [ or supplys in the UK] Mark From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Help with Processor Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:51:09 +0900 Hi to every one, I am trying to build a processor but having difficulty in finding a heater element that is not made of copper? I am in the UK, I have been told, in Holland they make a brass emersion heater element but I can not find a supplier here in the UK. Any suggestions anybody? Mark Hi Mark Brass won't do either, neither will bronze, lead, tin and zinc. Aluminium doesn't react with biodiesel but it does react with lye so you can't use it in a processor. Stainless steel is best. Stainless steel immersion heaters definitely exist, surely obtainable in all countries. Seek and ye shall find. HTH, good luck. Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _ Windows LiveT Messenger has arrived. Click here to download it for free! http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo
Re: [Biofuel] Help with Processor
Hello Philip Hi, I used a copper immersion heater element for several years with no problems, How do you know there were no problems? Did you have your fuel tested for oxidation? See: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_svo.html#copperstudy And: Oxidation and polymerisation http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_bubblewash.html#oxid Best Keith although a stainless one would be more durable. I obtained a 'mechanical boss' for the immersion heater in a local (UK) plumbers merchant which eases and improves the fit through the tank, it also makes replacement easier. Philip - Original Message From: Mark` Cookson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 8:47:59 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Help with Processor keith Thanks for that, you can get stainless immersion heater[element] but they are a fortune to buy brand new. I thought any list members may know of other alternatives? [ or supplys in the UK] Mark From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Help with Processor Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:51:09 +0900 Hi to every one, I am trying to build a processor but having difficulty in finding a heater element that is not made of copper? I am in the UK, I have been told, in Holland they make a brass emersion heater element but I can not find a supplier here in the UK. Any suggestions anybody? Mark Hi Mark Brass won't do either, neither will bronze, lead, tin and zinc. Aluminium doesn't react with biodiesel but it does react with lye so you can't use it in a processor. Stainless steel is best. Stainless steel immersion heaters definitely exist, surely obtainable in all countries. Seek and ye shall find. HTH, good luck. Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Help with Processor
hi mark i use 2500 kw heating elements that being used in home boilers they are very cheap not from Cooper i don't no whats it from .have two of them in a 150 liters reactor yet most of theprocess i use only 1 only in thebeginning when iheat the oil i use both of them to speed things up i change 1of theelements about 3 month ago (i burned it up in mistake)the other oneseams as new after 9 month in here it cost25-30 shekels which is more or less 3 paonds. works fine for 14 month already all the best Golan On 21/10/06, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello PhilipHi,I used a copper immersion heater element for several years with no problems, How do you know there were no problems? Did you have your fuel testedfor oxidation? See:http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_svo.html#copperstudy And:Oxidation and polymerisationhttp://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_bubblewash.html#oxidBestKeithalthough a stainless one would be more durable. I obtained a 'mechanical boss' for the immersion heater in a local (UK) plumbersmerchant which eases and improves the fit through the tank, it alsomakes replacement easier.Philip- Original Message From: Mark` Cookson [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 8:47:59 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Help with ProcessorkeithThanks for that, you can get stainless immersion heater[element] but theyare a fortune to buy brand new. I thought any list members may know of other alternatives? [ or supplys in the UK]Mark From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Help with Processor Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:51:09 +0900 Hi to every one, I am trying to build a processor but having difficulty in finding a heater element that is not made of copper? I am in the UK, I have been told, in Holland they make a brass emersion heater element but I can not find a supplier here in the UK. Any suggestions anybody?Mark Hi Mark Brass won't do either, neither will bronze, lead, tin and zinc. Aluminium doesn't react with biodiesel but it does react with lye so you can't use it in a processor. Stainless steel is best. Stainless steel immersion heaters definitely exist, surely obtainable in all countries. Seek and ye shall find. HTH, good luck. Keith___ Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Help with Processor
Hi, I used a copper immersion heater element for several years with no problems, although a stainless one would be more durable. I obtained a 'mechanical boss' for the immersion heater in a local (UK) plumbers merchant which eases and improves the fit through the tank, it also makes replacement easier. Philip - Original Message From: Mark` Cookson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 8:47:59 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Help with Processor keith Thanks for that, you can get stainless immersion heater[element] but they are a fortune to buy brand new. I thought any list members may know of other alternatives? [ or supplys in the UK] Mark From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Help with Processor Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:51:09 +0900 Hi to every one, I am trying to build a processor but having difficulty in finding a heater element that is not made of copper? I am in the UK, I have been told, in Holland they make a brass emersion heater element but I can not find a supplier here in the UK. Any suggestions anybody? Mark Hi Mark Brass won't do either, neither will bronze, lead, tin and zinc. Aluminium doesn't react with biodiesel but it does react with lye so you can't use it in a processor. Stainless steel is best. Stainless steel immersion heaters definitely exist, surely obtainable in all countries. Seek and ye shall find. HTH, good luck. Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _ Windows Live™ Messenger has arrived. Click here to download it for free! http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Help with Processor
Thanks for your words Philip, I am going to try a washing machine one as sugested. I priced up a brand new stainless emersion heater 30 long yesturday it came out at £211.10 or for our friends over the pond $396.668 [US] A 24 one came out at £ 182.60 or $343.28 [US] Roll on the old washing machine there is a god after all !!! Mark From: philip reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Help with Processor Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:48:38 -0700 (PDT) Hi, I used a copper immersion heater element for several years with no problems, although a stainless one would be more durable. I obtained a 'mechanical boss' for the immersion heater in a local (UK) plumbers merchant which eases and improves the fit through the tank, it also makes replacement easier. Philip - Original Message From: Mark` Cookson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 8:47:59 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Help with Processor keith Thanks for that, you can get stainless immersion heater[element] but they are a fortune to buy brand new. I thought any list members may know of other alternatives? [ or supplys in the UK] Mark From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Help with Processor Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:51:09 +0900 Hi to every one, I am trying to build a processor but having difficulty in finding a heater element that is not made of copper? I am in the UK, I have been told, in Holland they make a brass emersion heater element but I can not find a supplier here in the UK. Any suggestions anybody? Mark Hi Mark Brass won't do either, neither will bronze, lead, tin and zinc. Aluminium doesn't react with biodiesel but it does react with lye so you can't use it in a processor. Stainless steel is best. Stainless steel immersion heaters definitely exist, surely obtainable in all countries. Seek and ye shall find. HTH, good luck. Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _ Windows Live Messenger has arrived. Click here to download it for free! http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _ Windows Live Messenger has arrived. Click here to download it for free! http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Help with Processor
Bob Thanks for the offered help, I am at the moment trying to make a 75 litre processor.The stainless kettle element you bought for your first processor how did you rig up a therostat to it was it quite easy? P-S I am in Lancs are you any where near? Regards Mark From: Bob Carr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Help with Processor Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:22:47 +0100 Hi Mark, How big is your processor? I made my first 15 litre processor using a stainless kettle element, bought from a local electical store for just £4.50. It is still working fine after a year. I am now using a 150 litre processor that is heated by hot water from a home made gas boiler. The long term plan is to convert the boiler to run on a mixture of glycerol and bio heating oil, but I am not there yet. If you need help sourcing stuff locally, I will help wherever I can Regards Bob - Original Message - From: Mark` Cookson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Help with Processor keith Thanks for that, you can get stainless immersion heater[element] but they are a fortune to buy brand new. I thought any list members may know of other alternatives? [ or supplys in the UK] Mark From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Help with Processor Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:51:09 +0900 Hi to every one, I am trying to build a processor but having difficulty in finding a heater element that is not made of copper? I am in the UK, I have been told, in Holland they make a brass emersion heater element but I can not find a supplier here in the UK. Any suggestions anybody? Mark Hi Mark Brass won't do either, neither will bronze, lead, tin and zinc. Aluminium doesn't react with biodiesel but it does react with lye so you can't use it in a processor. Stainless steel is best. Stainless steel immersion heaters definitely exist, surely obtainable in all countries. Seek and ye shall find. HTH, good luck. Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _ Windows LiveT Messenger has arrived. Click here to download it for free! http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Help with Processor
keith Thanks for that, you can get stainless immersion heater[element] but they are a fortune to buy brand new. I thought any list members may know of other alternatives? [ or supplys in the UK] Mark From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Help with Processor Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:51:09 +0900 Hi to every one, I am trying to build a processor but having difficulty in finding a heater element that is not made of copper? I am in the UK, I have been told, in Holland they make a brass emersion heater element but I can not find a supplier here in the UK. Any suggestions anybody? Mark Hi Mark Brass won't do either, neither will bronze, lead, tin and zinc. Aluminium doesn't react with biodiesel but it does react with lye so you can't use it in a processor. Stainless steel is best. Stainless steel immersion heaters definitely exist, surely obtainable in all countries. Seek and ye shall find. HTH, good luck. Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _ Windows Live Messenger has arrived. Click here to download it for free! http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Help with Processor
Hello, Others may disagree with me but I use copper heater and some piping in my processor for more then 1 year. My experience is that it resist to unwashed Biodiesel perfectly. Although in the wash-dry tank it is a different storry. There is a little corrosion - dillution of the copper elements where it is in contact with finished Biodiesel. I can say that you can use copper in the reactor, but try to avoid it in the wash and dry tanks. If you can not find stainless steel then use it but take a closer look at it each month. reg. ANdrew Hi to every one, I am trying to build a processor but having difficulty in finding a heater element that is not made of copper? I am in the UK, I have been told, in Holland they make a brass emersion heater element but I can not find a supplier here in the UK. Any suggestions anybody? Mark _ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Help with Processor
Hi Mark,How big a processor are you making? I have a local domestic electrical repair place that sell stainless heating elements from all sorts of stuff - washing machines, dishwashers, water heaters, etc. Some of the smaller ones are quite reasonably priced.Find your local repair place and drop in to see what they can do. Its always worth trying to strike a bargain on that old one that they have in the back that doesn't seem to fit anything useful! It's better to haggle in person, trust me!Good luck,Matt (near Rotherham, South Yorkshire)- Original Message From: Mark` Cookson [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Thursday, 19 October, 2006 8:47:59 AMSubject: Re: [Biofuel] Help with ProcessorkeithThanks for that, you can get stainless immersion heater[element] but they are a fortune to buy brand new. I thought any list members may know of other alternatives? [ or supplys in the UK]MarkFrom: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgTo: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSubject: Re: [Biofuel] Help with ProcessorDate: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:51:09 +0900 Hi to every one, I am trying to build a processor but having difficulty in finding a heater element that is not made of copper? I am in the UK, I have been told, in Holland they make a brass emersion heater element but I can not find a supplier here in the UK. Any suggestions anybody? MarkHi MarkBrass won't do either, neither will bronze, lead, tin and zinc.Aluminium doesn't react with biodiesel but it does react with lye soyou can't use it in a processor. Stainless steel is best. Stainlesssteel immersion heaters definitely exist, surely obtainable in allcountries. Seek and ye shall find.HTH, good luck.Keith___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/_Windows Live™ Messenger has arrived. Click here to download it for free! http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Help with Processor
Hi Mark, How big is your processor? I made my first 15 litre processor using a stainless kettle element, bought from a local electical store for just £4.50. It is still working fine after a year. I am now using a 150 litre processor that is heated by hot water from a home made gas boiler. The long term plan is to convert the boiler to run on a mixture of glycerol and bio heating oil, but I am not there yet. If you need help sourcing stuff locally, I will help wherever I can Regards Bob - Original Message - From: Mark` Cookson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Help with Processor keith Thanks for that, you can get stainless immersion heater[element] but they are a fortune to buy brand new. I thought any list members may know of other alternatives? [ or supplys in the UK] Mark From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Help with Processor Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:51:09 +0900 Hi to every one, I am trying to build a processor but having difficulty in finding a heater element that is not made of copper? I am in the UK, I have been told, in Holland they make a brass emersion heater element but I can not find a supplier here in the UK. Any suggestions anybody? Mark Hi Mark Brass won't do either, neither will bronze, lead, tin and zinc. Aluminium doesn't react with biodiesel but it does react with lye so you can't use it in a processor. Stainless steel is best. Stainless steel immersion heaters definitely exist, surely obtainable in all countries. Seek and ye shall find. HTH, good luck. Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _ Windows LiveT Messenger has arrived. Click here to download it for free! http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Help with Processor
Hi to every one, I am trying to build a processor but having difficulty in finding a heater element that is not made of copper? I am in the UK, I have been told, in Holland they make a brass emersion heater element but I can not find a supplier here in the UK. Any suggestions anybody? Mark _ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Help with Processor
Hi to every one, I am trying to build a processor but having difficulty in finding a heater element that is not made of copper? I am in the UK, I have been told, in Holland they make a brass emersion heater element but I can not find a supplier here in the UK. Any suggestions anybody? Mark Hi Mark Brass won't do either, neither will bronze, lead, tin and zinc. Aluminium doesn't react with biodiesel but it does react with lye so you can't use it in a processor. Stainless steel is best. Stainless steel immersion heaters definitely exist, surely obtainable in all countries. Seek and ye shall find. HTH, good luck. Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Help with Processor
what about electric water heater elements? you can get them in 120 and 240V models in america, and i think theyre stainless. not exactly what you are looking for, but they can be built into the holding tanks. (a little more work at the front end, but i think it would be worth it long term) Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 10:51 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Help with Processor Hi to every one, I am trying to build a processor but having difficulty in finding a heater element that is not made of copper? I am in the UK, I have been told, in Holland they make a brass emersion heater element but I can not find a supplier here in the UK. Any suggestions anybody? Mark Hi Mark Brass won't do either, neither will bronze, lead, tin and zinc. Aluminium doesn't react with biodiesel but it does react with lye so you can't use it in a processor. Stainless steel is best. Stainless steel immersion heaters definitely exist, surely obtainable in all countries. Seek and ye shall find. HTH, good luck. Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.5/482 - Release Date: 10/18/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.5/482 - Release Date: 10/18/2006 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
