Re: [Biofuel] Plastic and metal recycling
I remember seeing some one in china converting plastic into petrol. if you put tin cans in a fire it burns off the zinc anti rust coatings Some places will how ever recycle cans. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 4:01 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Plastic and metal recycling Does Journey to Forever have any tips on recycling plastic and metal? The only reference I found on Journey to Forever was that Mike Pelly using salvage scrap metal for his equipment. I know plastic is not compostable, obviously it needs some pre-treatment before even attempting to bring plastic back into nature. Maybe use ultraviolet rays to degrade plastic? How about metal cans, can the natural decay of metal be accelerated? What are consumer-grade metal cans made of? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Plastic and metal recycling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does Journey to Forever have any tips on recycling plastic and metal? The only reference I found on Journey to Forever was that Mike Pelly using salvage scrap metal for his equipment. You sure didn't look very hard. http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor7.html Test-batch mini-processor: Journey to Forever "Cost -- in our case, zero: this was all discarded junk, including the drill, and all in perfect working order." http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor5.html Simple 5-gallon processor: Journey to Forever "Like our test-batch processor, it's easy to make from not very much, mostly scrap and junk... The only thing we bought was the immersion heater, which we already had." http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor10.html Journey to Forever 90-litre processor "The main expense with this processor set-up was the pump (US$35). Most other parts were salvaged from junkyards and so on, including all the valves -- 12 of them altogether, which would have cost about US$100 if bought new. The temperature gauge was also salvaged from a dump, found lying face-down in the mud, but it works and it's accurate." This stove is made of tin cans: http://journeytoforever.org/teststove.html Cookstove for schools: Journey to Forever And so on. We use junk for just about everything, in all our biofuels work and all our farm work too. Solar box cookers are made of cardboard boxes. Our incubator is made from cardboard boxes, a junked heating element, junked plate glass, junked thermometer. There's a whole section in the Education section on what to do with "waste" cardboard boxes. There are more stoves there too, made from tin cans and Coke cans. Our previous garden pond was an old bathtub. Reduce-reuse-recycle is basic, it's instinctive with us, it's in everything we do. I know plastic is not compostable, obviously it needs some pre-treatment before even attempting to bring plastic back into nature. Maybe use ultraviolet rays to degrade plastic? How about metal cans, can the natural decay of metal be accelerated? What are consumer-grade metal cans made of? Plastic and metal should be recycled, not degraded and decayed. Best Keith Addison Journey to Forever KYOTO Pref., Japan http://journeytoforever.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ I used the Journey To Forever search box. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Plastic and metal recycling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does Journey to Forever have any tips on recycling plastic and metal? The only reference I found on Journey to Forever was that Mike Pelly using salvage scrap metal for his equipment. You sure didn't look very hard. http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor7.html Test-batch mini-processor: Journey to Forever "Cost -- in our case, zero: this was all discarded junk, including the drill, and all in perfect working order." http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor5.html Simple 5-gallon processor: Journey to Forever "Like our test-batch processor, it's easy to make from not very much, mostly scrap and junk... The only thing we bought was the immersion heater, which we already had." http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor10.html Journey to Forever 90-litre processor "The main expense with this processor set-up was the pump (US$35). Most other parts were salvaged from junkyards and so on, including all the valves -- 12 of them altogether, which would have cost about US$100 if bought new. The temperature gauge was also salvaged from a dump, found lying face-down in the mud, but it works and it's accurate." This stove is made of tin cans: http://journeytoforever.org/teststove.html Cookstove for schools: Journey to Forever And so on. We use junk for just about everything, in all our biofuels work and all our farm work too. Solar box cookers are made of cardboard boxes. Our incubator is made from cardboard boxes, a junked heating element, junked plate glass, junked thermometer. There's a whole section in the Education section on what to do with "waste" cardboard boxes. There are more stoves there too, made from tin cans and Coke cans. Our previous garden pond was an old bathtub. Reduce-reuse-recycle is basic, it's instinctive with us, it's in everything we do. I know plastic is not compostable, obviously it needs some pre-treatment before even attempting to bring plastic back into nature. Maybe use ultraviolet rays to degrade plastic? How about metal cans, can the natural decay of metal be accelerated? What are consumer-grade metal cans made of? Plastic and metal should be recycled, not degraded and decayed. Best Keith Addison Journey to Forever KYOTO Pref., Japan http://journeytoforever.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Apparently, the Journey to Forever search engine is not using "fuzzy logic", it strictly gives back the exact terms entered into the box, not the words associated with it i.e. just "metal" if the input word is "metal", instead of kinds of metal: "copper", "tin", etc. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Plastic and metal recycling
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does Journey to Forever have any tips on recycling plastic and metal? The only reference I found on Journey to Forever was that Mike Pelly using salvage scrap metal for his equipment. You sure didn't look very hard. http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor7.htmlhttp://journe ytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor7.html Test-batch mini-processor: Journey to Forever Cost -- in our case, zero: this was all discarded junk, including the drill, and all in perfect working order.http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor5.htmlSimple5-ga llonprocessor:JourneytoForever http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor5.html Simple 5-gallon processor: Journey to Forever Like our test-batch processor, it's easy to make from not very much, mostly scrap and junk... The only thing we bought was the immersion heater, which we already had.http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor10.htmlJourneytoFo rever90-litreprocessor http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor10.html Journey to Forever 90-litre processor The main expense with this processor set-up was the pump (US$35). Most other parts were salvaged from junkyards and so on, including all the valves -- 12 of them altogether, which would have cost about US$100 if bought new. The temperature gauge was also salvaged from a dump, found lying face-down in the mud, but it works and it's accurate. This stove is made of tin cans: http://journeytoforever.org/teststove.htmlhttp://journeytoforever. org/teststove.html Cookstove for schools: Journey to Forever And so on. We use junk for just about everything, in all our biofuels work and all our farm work too. Solar box cookers are made of cardboard boxes. Our incubator is made from cardboard boxes, a junked heating element, junked plate glass, junked thermometer. There's a whole section in the Education section on what to do with waste cardboard boxes. There are more stoves there too, made from tin cans and Coke cans. Our previous garden pond was an old bathtub. Reduce-reuse-recycle is basic, it's instinctive with us, it's in everything we do. I know plastic is not compostable, obviously it needs some pre-treatment before even attempting to bring plastic back into nature. Maybe use ultraviolet rays to degrade plastic? How about metal cans, can the natural decay of metal be accelerated? What are consumer-grade metal cans made of? Plastic and metal should be recycled, not degraded and decayed. Best Keith Addison Journey to Forever KYOTO Pref., Japan http://journeytoforever.org/http://journeytoforever.org/ I used the Journey To Forever search box. And searched for what? Apparently, the Journey to Forever search engine is not using fuzzy logic, it strictly gives back the exact terms entered into the box, not the words associated with it i.e. just metal if the input word is metal, instead of kinds of metal: copper, tin, etc. :-) Uh, can you suggest a site-search engine that will find copper (but not policeman) when I search for iron (but not laundry)? If you can, I don't want it. (I wouldn't want one that found disposal when I searched for recycling either.) Did you use the simple search box or hit the Advanced search button? http://journeytoforever.org/search.html Whatever, you sure didn't look very hard. Anyway, we're a bit dissatisfied with Atomz.com these days, we've been talking of changing it. Boolean might be nice, though not essential, but I think we'll stay unfuzzed. Best wishes Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Plastic and metal recycling
Does Journey to Forever have any tips on recycling plastic and metal? The only reference I found on Journey to Forever was that Mike Pelly using salvage scrap metal for his equipment. I know plastic is not compostable, obviously it needs some pre-treatment before even attempting to bring plastic back into nature. Maybe use ultraviolet rays to degrade plastic? How about metal cans, can the natural decay of metal be accelerated? What are consumer-grade metal cans made of? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Plastic and metal recycling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does Journey to Forever have any tips on recycling plastic and metal? The only reference I found on Journey to Forever was that Mike Pelly using salvage scrap metal for his equipment. I know plastic is not compostable, obviously it needs some pre-treatment before even attempting to bring plastic back into nature. Maybe use ultraviolet rays to degrade plastic? How about metal cans, can the natural decay of metal be accelerated? What are consumer-grade metal cans made of? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Maybe use fire. Metal cans exposed to intense heat rust faster. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Plastic and metal recycling
Does Journey to Forever have any tips on recycling plastic and metal? The only reference I found on Journey to Forever was that Mike Pelly using salvage scrap metal for his equipment. You sure didn't look very hard. http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor7.html Test-batch mini-processor: Journey to Forever Cost -- in our case, zero: this was all discarded junk, including the drill, and all in perfect working order. http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor5.html Simple 5-gallon processor: Journey to Forever Like our test-batch processor, it's easy to make from not very much, mostly scrap and junk... The only thing we bought was the immersion heater, which we already had. http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor10.html Journey to Forever 90-litre processor The main expense with this processor set-up was the pump (US$35). Most other parts were salvaged from junkyards and so on, including all the valves -- 12 of them altogether, which would have cost about US$100 if bought new. The temperature gauge was also salvaged from a dump, found lying face-down in the mud, but it works and it's accurate. This stove is made of tin cans: http://journeytoforever.org/teststove.html Cookstove for schools: Journey to Forever And so on. We use junk for just about everything, in all our biofuels work and all our farm work too. Solar box cookers are made of cardboard boxes. Our incubator is made from cardboard boxes, a junked heating element, junked plate glass, junked thermometer. There's a whole section in the Education section on what to do with waste cardboard boxes. There are more stoves there too, made from tin cans and Coke cans. Our previous garden pond was an old bathtub. Reduce-reuse-recycle is basic, it's instinctive with us, it's in everything we do. I know plastic is not compostable, obviously it needs some pre-treatment before even attempting to bring plastic back into nature. Maybe use ultraviolet rays to degrade plastic? How about metal cans, can the natural decay of metal be accelerated? What are consumer-grade metal cans made of? Plastic and metal should be recycled, not degraded and decayed. Best Keith Addison Journey to Forever KYOTO Pref., Japan http://journeytoforever.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
