Re: [Biofuel] chicken manure

2005-08-31 Thread Mike Weaver
My uncle used to use bleach too. Time will also do it.

Nancy Canning wrote:

>been there, done that. Here is what I did, and it worked enough so it was 
>not so obvious.
>1. hydrogen peroxide helps with odors.  Hydrogen Peroxide breaks down the 
>cell wall, allowing the protein to dissolve away with washing.  Hydrogen 
>peroxide works with any protein, blood, manure, grass etc.  saturate, don't 
>dilute, and let stand for a couple of days.  Where it really bubbles up, go 
>back and re-apply  let sit for 1 day
>2. green soap spray on with garden sprayer, and use one of those nylon 
>commercial brushes that you sweep the driveway with.  scrub, specially where 
>hydrogen peroxide bubbled up.  let dry.
>3. Step. Clorox, (dollar store variety) spray on with garden sprayer, the 
>kind you connect to your hose, don't dilute, let the water from hose dilute. 
>spray everything, including ceiling. Wear old clothes.
>4.  might need to Clorox again.
>
>  Check if there is any old insulation or trash thrown up in attic area, as 
>it absorbs odors.
>
>alternative:  tear down and build something else, cause frankly you never 
>get all the odor gone. pole shed doesn't cost much to build, specially with 
>recycled material.
>
>
>
>  - Original Message - 
>From: "Todd Hershberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: 
>Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 8:28 AM
>Subject: [Biofuel] chicken manure
>
>
>  
>
>>I am trying to turn an old chicken house into a biodiesel workshop.
>>The odor is disgusting because the chicken waste and dead chickens
>>were left for years.  I've cleaned it out and left the doors open.
>>Does anyone have any ideas how to deodorize the old chicken shed?
>>Should I be concerned about mold or spores?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Todd
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Re: [Biofuel] chicken manure

2005-08-31 Thread Mike Weaver
No, no no, it was a mint 1957 Corvette...

Keith Addison wrote:

>Hi John, Greg
>
>  
>
>>Greg and April wrote:
>>
>>
>>>My dad told the story about one of his collage buddies that got a 3 month
>>>old Cadillac for $50, because the previous owner went out to the desert and
>>>committed suicide in it, and was not found for many days..
>>>
>>>He striped the car down to bare metal, sand blasted the entire thing, and
>>>rebuilt it with an all new interior, but, still got rid of the car because
>>>the smell remained.
>>>
>>>Good luck.
>>>
>>>Greg H.
>>>  
>>>
>>Didn't mythbusters test that very urban myth last season?
>>
>>jh
>>
>>
>
>It might help their case to know that the story was circulating in 
>Cape Town in 1965, and probably still is. In that case it was a 
>Jaguar going for next to nothing. Maybe it's a myth that lives in the 
>collective unconsciousness of young men who can't afford expensive 
>cars.
>
>Best wishes
>
>Keith
>
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Re: [Biofuel] chicken manure

2005-08-31 Thread Keith Addison
Hi John, Greg

>Greg and April wrote:
> > My dad told the story about one of his collage buddies that got a 3 month
> > old Cadillac for $50, because the previous owner went out to the desert and
> > committed suicide in it, and was not found for many days..
> >
> > He striped the car down to bare metal, sand blasted the entire thing, and
> > rebuilt it with an all new interior, but, still got rid of the car because
> > the smell remained.
> >
> > Good luck.
> >
> > Greg H.
>
>Didn't mythbusters test that very urban myth last season?
>
>jh

It might help their case to know that the story was circulating in 
Cape Town in 1965, and probably still is. In that case it was a 
Jaguar going for next to nothing. Maybe it's a myth that lives in the 
collective unconsciousness of young men who can't afford expensive 
cars.

Best wishes

Keith


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Re: [Biofuel] chicken manure

2005-08-31 Thread Greg and April
I have no idea, but, some of the ways that Myth Busters test myths, leaves
allot to be desired.

Greg H.

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>
> Didn't mythbusters test that very urban myth last season?
>
> jh
>
>


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Re: [Biofuel] chicken manure

2005-08-31 Thread John Hayes
Greg and April wrote:
> My dad told the story about one of his collage buddies that got a 3 month
> old Cadillac for $50, because the previous owner went out to the desert and
> committed suicide in it, and was not found for many days..
> 
> He striped the car down to bare metal, sand blasted the entire thing, and
> rebuilt it with an all new interior, but, still got rid of the car because
> the smell remained.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Greg H.

Didn't mythbusters test that very urban myth last season?

jh


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Re: [Biofuel] chicken manure

2005-08-31 Thread Greg and April
My dad told the story about one of his collage buddies that got a 3 month
old Cadillac for $50, because the previous owner went out to the desert and
committed suicide in it, and was not found for many days..

He striped the car down to bare metal, sand blasted the entire thing, and
rebuilt it with an all new interior, but, still got rid of the car because
the smell remained.

Good luck.

Greg H.


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From: "Todd Hershberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 7:28
Subject: [Biofuel] chicken manure


> I am trying to turn an old chicken house into a biodiesel workshop.
> The odor is disgusting because the chicken waste and dead chickens
> were left for years.  I've cleaned it out and left the doors open.
> Does anyone have any ideas how to deodorize the old chicken shed?
> Should I be concerned about mold or spores?
>
> Thanks,
> Todd
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Re: [Biofuel] chicken manure

2005-08-31 Thread Nancy Canning
been there, done that. Here is what I did, and it worked enough so it was 
not so obvious.
1. hydrogen peroxide helps with odors.  Hydrogen Peroxide breaks down the 
cell wall, allowing the protein to dissolve away with washing.  Hydrogen 
peroxide works with any protein, blood, manure, grass etc.  saturate, don't 
dilute, and let stand for a couple of days.  Where it really bubbles up, go 
back and re-apply  let sit for 1 day
2. green soap spray on with garden sprayer, and use one of those nylon 
commercial brushes that you sweep the driveway with.  scrub, specially where 
hydrogen peroxide bubbled up.  let dry.
3. Step. Clorox, (dollar store variety) spray on with garden sprayer, the 
kind you connect to your hose, don't dilute, let the water from hose dilute. 
spray everything, including ceiling. Wear old clothes.
4.  might need to Clorox again.

  Check if there is any old insulation or trash thrown up in attic area, as 
it absorbs odors.

alternative:  tear down and build something else, cause frankly you never 
get all the odor gone. pole shed doesn't cost much to build, specially with 
recycled material.



  - Original Message - 
From: "Todd Hershberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 8:28 AM
Subject: [Biofuel] chicken manure


>I am trying to turn an old chicken house into a biodiesel workshop.
> The odor is disgusting because the chicken waste and dead chickens
> were left for years.  I've cleaned it out and left the doors open.
> Does anyone have any ideas how to deodorize the old chicken shed?
> Should I be concerned about mold or spores?
>
> Thanks,
> Todd
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Re: [Biofuel] chicken manure

2005-08-31 Thread Garth & Kim Travis
Greetings,

While I have never cleaned up something that bad, I do use the following 
spray on my compost toilet buckets and they are bad enough.  In one spray 
bottle put ordinary white vinegar; in another spray bottle put hydrogen 
peroxide.  Spray one then the other on your surface.  A couple of seconds 
between the two is optimum.  This works better than chlorine for 
disinfectant.

Bright Blessings,
Kim

At 08:28 AM 8/31/2005, you wrote:
>I am trying to turn an old chicken house into a biodiesel workshop.
>The odor is disgusting because the chicken waste and dead chickens
>were left for years.  I've cleaned it out and left the doors open.
>Does anyone have any ideas how to deodorize the old chicken shed?
>Should I be concerned about mold or spores?
>
>Thanks,
>Todd



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[Biofuel] chicken manure

2005-08-31 Thread Todd Hershberger
I am trying to turn an old chicken house into a biodiesel workshop.   
The odor is disgusting because the chicken waste and dead chickens  
were left for years.  I've cleaned it out and left the doors open.   
Does anyone have any ideas how to deodorize the old chicken shed?   
Should I be concerned about mold or spores?

Thanks,
Todd

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[biofuel] Chicken Manure Diesel

2001-12-19 Thread Harmon Seaver

   Here's a guy running diesels on chicken manure. Wonder if he pays his
road tax? 

http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/science/12/17/fowl.fuel.ap/

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Re: [biofuel] chicken manure

2000-11-30 Thread Steve Spence

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> does it work on the same principle as a wood gas generator?
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> stephen lakios wrote:
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> > I looked up another source on chicken manure.Thier figures are more
> > liberal.They claim 210 cu ft of biogas from 45lbs C. manure plus 60lbs
> > of water,to make the slurry. Also they claim 250 cu ft of biogas = one
> > gallon of gasoline. Which would = 1.2 gallons of gasoline.Now we are
> > talking about 105lbs of slurry.To get enough biogas to = 2.4 gallons
> > of gasoline, we need 210 lbs of slurry,according to this source.Do not
> > waste your $33, something stinks with the chicken car.Stephen
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Re: [biofuel] chicken manure

2000-11-30 Thread skaar



does it work on the same principle as a wood gas generator?
stephen lakios wrote:

I looked up another
source on chicken manure.Thier figures are more liberal.They claim 210
cu ft of biogas from 45lbs C. manure plus 60lbs of water,to make the slurry.
Also they claim 250 cu ft of biogas = one gallon of gasoline. Which would
= 1.2 gallons of gasoline.Now we are talking about 105lbs of slurry.To
get enough biogas to = 2.4 gallons of gasoline, we need 210 lbs of slurry,according
to this source.Do not waste your $33, something stinks with the chicken
car.Stephen








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[biofuel] chicken manure

2000-11-30 Thread stephen lakios



I looked up another source on chicken manure.Thier figures are 
more liberal.They claim 210 cu ft of biogas from 45lbs C. manure plus 60lbs of 
water,to make the slurry. Also they claim 250 cu ft of biogas = one gallon of 
gasoline. Which would = 1.2 gallons of gasoline.Now we are talking about 105lbs 
of slurry.To get enough biogas to = 2.4 gallons of gasoline, we need 210 lbs of 
slurry,according to this source.Do not waste your $33, something stinks with the 
chicken car.Stephen






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