[biofuel] Acid only reactions Was: Aleks Kac's FOOLPROOF method
I happen to catch this mid-thread. I thought the NaOH was an essential part of the biodieselic reaction (to make the methoxide). I didn't know you could use acid to catalyse the reaction!! Can you?? Curtis Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] It wasn't fudging on Aleks's part. Actually it's the original picture, from the original process. Last time Aleks updated it he changed the process quite a lot. When we were going through it all prior to uploading I queried the pics with him and he said they were okay. Later somebody wrote to me offlist asking the same question, about #7. I asked Aleks, and he said this: - Introducing NetZero Long Distance 1st month Free! Sign up today at: www.netzerolongdistance.com Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Acid only reactions Was: Aleks Kac's FOOLPROOF method
Curtis writes: I happen to catch this mid-thread. I thought the NaOH was an essential part of the biodieselic reaction (to make the methoxide). I didn't know you could use acid to catalyse the reaction!! Can you?? That's sorta what we're trying to find out here, but it's supposed to work. Of course it doesn't make methoxide, it uses a completely different reaction mechanism. According to both Aleks and US Patent 4,695,411 it can be done with conc. H2SO4, and there are even better acids out there-K Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Sell a Home with Ease! http://us.click.yahoo.com/SrPZMC/kTmEAA/jd3IAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Acid only reactions Was: Aleks Kac's FOOLPROOF method
Curtis writes: I happen to catch this mid-thread. I thought the NaOH was an essential part of the biodieselic reaction (to make the methoxide). I didn't know you could use acid to catalyse the reaction!! Can you?? That's sorta what we're trying to find out here, but it's supposed to work. Of course it doesn't make methoxide, it uses a completely different reaction mechanism. According to both Aleks and US Patent 4,695,411 it can be done with conc. H2SO4, and there are even better acids out there-K I understood only H2SO4 would work. No? Curtis, have a look at Aleks's page, he explains it quite well. http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_aleksnew.html Foolproof biodiesel process: Journey to Forever The acid does esterification, with some transesterification, the base completes the transesterification. Best Keith Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/