[biofuel] Doing it once is already hard Was: doo doo
About fabricating the WTC attacks ... I'm not gonna debate whether it was .. or not cause I have NO proof for what I'm about to say. I'm simply gonna comment that there is ONE strange thing that's always bothered me about the WTC incident. TWO separate planes driven by TWO sets of terrorists strike TWO entirely different buildings (towers). Yet EACH of these two physically separated incidences ... brought down BOTH building STRAIGHT DOWN. DEMOLITION PERFECT. Like those demolitions you see on the news sometime ... bringing down old buildings. Now remember ... those demolitions you see on the news they're done by explosives experts. The building is studied for weeks ... the charges precisely placed. CAREFULLY placed. DELIBERATELY placed. That's the kind of precision that (supposedly) it takes to make a building come straight down. To avoid damaging nearby buildings. So now a stolen aircraft hits a building at a random angle brings a building straight down?? And the a SECOND plane hits a SECOND building?? And ALSO brings it straight down?? The chances for a random (non deliberate charges placed just in certain places) plane hit making it fall straight down ... are already microscopic. Now a second (2nd tower) repeat performance?? The odd against THAT are UNBELIEVABLE!!! I'm NOT implying anything. But I WILL say that it sure makes my suspicious-o-meter needle shoot up. Curtis Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL - Original Message - From: Crabb, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] So tell me, whom are we bombing to rape their resources? Afghanistan? I suppose that is a flimsy excuse we facricated the WTC attacks so that we can waste our time and spend money there for nothing. If we were fabricating it.. it would have made more sense to fabricate it so that Saddam did it. If we were going to rip off all their oil.. why didnt we do it 12 years ago? Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Doing it once is already hard Was: doo doo
I think you will find that any very tall building can be brought down just as these two were when you have a very intense petrochemical fire (Jet Fuel) burning for some time at least one third of the way down the building. It lets one or two floors collapse at the same time and the above floors act as a very large hammer and drive all the lower floors down until the lower floors are all flat then the velocity of the fall does the same to the remaining upper floors. Keep in mind that the WTC's were of an interesting design with much of the load taken by the outer side structures as compared to a more normal steel building with a steel frame throughout the interior. This permitted full open floors that allowed for maximum flexibility in floor plans to meet tenants needs. If you will look at the pictures of the disaster take from the air a few days later, and before the clean up was well under way I think you will see that it was a real mess, not at all like the controlled demolition of an older building and many of the other buildings in the area were severely damaged to the point that several may have to be demolished. Good thought but it is just not factual. Best regards, Vern csakima [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com net cc: Subject: [biofuel] Doing it once is already hardWas: doo 01/12/03 08:03 AM doo Please respond to biofuel About fabricating the WTC attacks ... I'm not gonna debate whether it was .. or not cause I have NO proof for what I'm about to say. I'm simply gonna comment that there is ONE strange thing that's always bothered me about the WTC incident.Ê TWO separate planes driven by TWO sets of terrorists strike TWO entirely different buildings (towers).ÊÊ Yet EACH of these two physically separated incidences ... brought down BOTH building STRAIGHT DOWN.ÊÊ DEMOLITION PERFECT.ÊÊ Like those demolitions you see on the news sometime ... bringing down old buildings. Now remember ... those demolitions you see on the news they're done by explosives experts.Ê The building is studied for weeks ... the charges precisely placed.Ê CAREFULLY placed.Ê DELIBERATELY placed.Ê That's the kind of precision that (supposedly) it takes to make a building come straight down.Ê To avoid damaging nearby buildings. So now a stolen aircraft hits a building at a random angle brings a building straight down??Ê And the a SECOND plane hits a SECOND building??Ê And ALSO brings it straight down??Ê The chances for a random (non deliberate charges placed just in certain places) plane hit making it fall straight down ... are already microscopic.ÊÊ Now a second (2nd tower) repeat performance?? The odd against THAT are UNBELIEVABLE!!! I'm NOT implying anything.Ê But I WILL say that it sure makes my suspicious-o-meter needle shoot up. Curtis Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL - Original Message - From: Crabb, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] So tell me, whom are we bombing to rape their resources? Afghanistan?Ê I suppose that is a flimsy excuse we facricated the WTC attacks so thatÊ we can waste our time and spend money there for nothing. If we were fabricating it.. it would have made more sense to fabricate it so that Saddam did it. If we were going to rip off all their oil.. why didnt we do it 12 years ago? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT [IMAGE
RE: [biofuel] Doing it once is already hard Was: doo doo
Key difference between professional demolition and Sept.11 planes and WTC buildings falling: the upper floor pancaked, leading to cascade pancake failures. Without a side-force, or a designed-in assymmetry to floor strength, even Newton would expect the WTC to have pancaked straight down. No need for pros to do the job. -Original Message- From: csakima [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 9:04 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Doing it once is already hard Was: doo doo About fabricating the WTC attacks ... I'm not gonna debate whether it was .. or not cause I have NO proof for what I'm about to say. I'm simply gonna comment that there is ONE strange thing that's always bothered me about the WTC incident. TWO separate planes driven by TWO sets of terrorists strike TWO entirely different buildings (towers). Yet EACH of these two physically separated incidences ... brought down BOTH building STRAIGHT DOWN. DEMOLITION PERFECT. Like those demolitions you see on the news sometime ... bringing down old buildings. Now remember ... those demolitions you see on the news they're done by explosives experts. The building is studied for weeks ... the charges precisely placed. CAREFULLY placed. DELIBERATELY placed. That's the kind of precision that (supposedly) it takes to make a building come straight down. To avoid damaging nearby buildings. So now a stolen aircraft hits a building at a random angle brings a building straight down?? And the a SECOND plane hits a SECOND building?? And ALSO brings it straight down?? The chances for a random (non deliberate charges placed just in certain places) plane hit making it fall straight down ... are already microscopic. Now a second (2nd tower) repeat performance?? The odd against THAT are UNBELIEVABLE!!! I'm NOT implying anything. But I WILL say that it sure makes my suspicious-o-meter needle shoot up. Curtis Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL - Original Message - From: Crabb, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] So tell me, whom are we bombing to rape their resources? Afghanistan? I suppose that is a flimsy excuse we facricated the WTC attacks so that we can waste our time and spend money there for nothing. If we were fabricating it.. it would have made more sense to fabricate it so that Saddam did it. If we were going to rip off all their oil.. why didnt we do it 12 years ago? Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Doing it once is already hard Was: doo doo
csakima wrote: I'm simply gonna comment that there is ONE strange thing that's always bothered me about the WTC incident. TWO separate planes driven by TWO sets of terrorists strike TWO entirely different buildings (towers). Yet EACH of these two physically separated incidences ... brought down BOTH building STRAIGHT DOWN. DEMOLITION PERFECT. Like those demolitions you see on the news sometime ... bringing down old buildings. But it wasn't the impact of the aircraft that brought those buildings down. Burning fuel heated the steel superstructure to the point where it could no longer support the building, and gravity did the rest. I'd seen something similar with the steel in my wood stove. Burning hardwood for a season almost always warped a steel baffle plate that directed secondary air into the stove. I was subsequently educated by someone familiar with wood stoves that steel becomes elastic at temperatures exceeding 1 000 F, so I had to install a pyrometer and adjust the air intake to avoid burning my fires too hot. (I HAD to get biofuels into this post, somehow!) I was in Baltimore that awful day, watching the whole episode on CNN. I remember telling my aunt that those buildings would come straight down if the fire wasn't extinguished. There was no mystery about it in my mind. I'm NOT implying anything. But I WILL say that it sure makes my suspicious-o-meter needle shoot up. So then, what ARE you saying? robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.1stbooks.com/bookview/9782 Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
