[biofuel] Re: source for sulfuric acid

2003-08-22 Thread maimino1984

Thanks for pointing out Thomas Register. I found a company that will 
ship H3SO4 to me at a reasonable price.

If anyone else is interested, here's the link:

http://www.thomasregister.com/Catalog.aspx?az=16062002

--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Contact the local public pool manager or city water manager and ask 
where he
> or she gets their acids from.
> 
> That or search the Thomas Register on line, or hit the yellow pages 
for the
> nearest metro area near you and look for chem supply houses.
> 
> Todd Swearingen
> 
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> 
> 
> > Looking to try the two-stage acid base process. Looking for a 
source
> > for sulfuric acid in Pennsylvania/Ohio/West Virgina area. Or a
> > national source that will ship. Thanks!
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R: [biofuel] Re: Source for Sulfuric Acid? and Merk chemical database

2003-07-02 Thread Larosa Rodolfo

Thank You Juan,

Your information abouto Merck is very good.

Rodolfo

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From: Juan Boveda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 5:10 PM
Subject: [biofuel] Re: Source for Sulfuric Acid? and Merk chemical database


> Hello Mark.
>
> You wrote about sulfuric acid "sulfuric acid drain
> cleaner. It comes in a variety of purities, and it's hard to know exactly
> what you got."
>
> The concentration of the sulfuric acid could be determinated in a symple
> way using its density. A volumetric flask, a single decimal balance and a
> calculator will do the job or for a fast response, an specific gravity
> hydrometer graduated for the range you are intersted in and a themometer,
> they are cheaper and safer to avoid any dangerous drop.
> Tritation will tells you about its concentration as well.
>
> Some density and concentration from Merk of the shelf reagens:
> Density Concentration   Merck article number
> 1.18 Kg/litre  = 25%100716
> 1.30 Kg/litre = 40%  209286
> 1.82 Kg/litre = 90-91%100729
> 1.84 Kg/litre = 96% 100714
>
> Sulfuric acid fuming with 30% SO3 for sulfonation synthesis
> 1.94 Kg/litre = over 100% 100721
>
> 96 - 98% is the range of maximun concentrations normally abailable.
>
> Lots of physical and chemical data on Merck products at:
>
> http://www.merck.de
>
> http://www.chemdat.de
>
> They also provide free of charge (gratis) the ChemDAT - The Merck Chemical
> Database - on CD-ROM, full of usefull data on physical, chemical, safety,
> toxicological, prices, etc. I got mine recently.(it sounds like I were a
> salesman from that company, but I am not).
>
> Regards
>
> Juan
>
> -Mensaje original-
> De: girl_mark_fire [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Enviado el: Martes 1 de Julio de 2003 09:12 AM
> Para: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
> Asunto: [biofuel] Re: Source for Sulfuric Acid?
>
> I have bought some from places like Home Depot as sulfuric acid drain
> cleaner. It comes in a variety of purities, and it's hard to know
> exactly what you got. It's in a quart bottle for $7. I have made two-
> stage acid base with it and have had some OK results and some not-so-
> OK results. I used titration after (and during) the acid stage and
> that made it possible to know when it wasn't 'working' as well as
> expected, which is a fixable problem (fixed by using more lye in the
> base stage in my case). You're better off with sulfuric of known
> purity, but I certainly have had it work out sorta allright with Bull
> Dozer drain cleaner and another brand.
>
> mark
>
> --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Does any one know where I can get small quantities of sulfuric acid
> > in the Southeast U.S.?  I live in Tallahassee Florida.
>
>
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[biofuel] Re: Source for Sulfuric Acid? and Merk chemical database

2003-07-01 Thread girl_mark_fire

Thank you very much for this suggestion, Juan! 
mark


--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Juan Boveda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Mark.
> 

> 
> The concentration of the sulfuric acid could be determinated in a 
symple 
> way using its density. A volumetric flask, a single decimal balance 
and a 
> calculator will do the job or for a fast response, an specific 
gravity 
> hydrometer graduated for the range you are intersted in and a 
themometer, 
> they are cheaper and safer to avoid any dangerous drop.
> Tritation will tells you about its .


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[biofuel] Re: Source for Sulfuric Acid? and Merk chemical database

2003-07-01 Thread Juan Boveda

Hello Mark.

You wrote about sulfuric acid "sulfuric acid drain
cleaner. It comes in a variety of purities, and it's hard to know exactly 
what you got."

The concentration of the sulfuric acid could be determinated in a symple 
way using its density. A volumetric flask, a single decimal balance and a 
calculator will do the job or for a fast response, an specific gravity 
hydrometer graduated for the range you are intersted in and a themometer, 
they are cheaper and safer to avoid any dangerous drop.
Tritation will tells you about its concentration as well.

Some density and concentration from Merk of the shelf reagens:
Density Concentration   Merck article number
1.18 Kg/litre  = 25%100716
1.30 Kg/litre = 40%  209286
1.82 Kg/litre = 90-91%100729
1.84 Kg/litre = 96% 100714

Sulfuric acid fuming with 30% SO3 for sulfonation synthesis
1.94 Kg/litre = over 100% 100721

96 - 98% is the range of maximun concentrations normally abailable.

Lots of physical and chemical data on Merck products at:

http://www.merck.de

http://www.chemdat.de

They also provide free of charge (gratis) the ChemDAT - The Merck Chemical 
Database - on CD-ROM, full of usefull data on physical, chemical, safety, 
toxicological, prices, etc. I got mine recently.(it sounds like I were a 
salesman from that company, but I am not).

Regards

Juan

-Mensaje original-
De: girl_mark_fire [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: Martes 1 de Julio de 2003 09:12 AM
Para:   biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Asunto: [biofuel] Re: Source for Sulfuric Acid?

I have bought some from places like Home Depot as sulfuric acid drain
cleaner. It comes in a variety of purities, and it's hard to know
exactly what you got. It's in a quart bottle for $7. I have made two-
stage acid base with it and have had some OK results and some not-so-
OK results. I used titration after (and during) the acid stage and
that made it possible to know when it wasn't 'working' as well as
expected, which is a fixable problem (fixed by using more lye in the
base stage in my case). You're better off with sulfuric of known
purity, but I certainly have had it work out sorta allright with Bull
Dozer drain cleaner and another brand.

mark

--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does any one know where I can get small quantities of sulfuric acid
> in the Southeast U.S.?  I live in Tallahassee Florida.



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[biofuel] Re: Source for Sulfuric Acid?

2003-07-01 Thread girl_mark_fire

I have bought some from places like Home Depot as sulfuric acid drain 
cleaner. It comes in a variety of purities, and it's hard to know 
exactly what you got. It's in a quart bottle for $7. I have made two-
stage acid base with it and have had some OK results and some not-so-
OK results. I used titration after (and during) the acid stage and 
that made it possible to know when it wasn't 'working' as well as 
expected, which is a fixable problem (fixed by using more lye in the 
base stage in my case). You're better off with sulfuric of known 
purity, but I certainly have had it work out sorta allright with Bull 
Dozer drain cleaner and another brand.

mark

--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does any one know where I can get small quantities of sulfuric acid 
> in the Southeast U.S.?  I live in Tallahassee Florida.


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