[biofuel] Re: Statement-SOLAROIL-Eu-tax.4.12.2001.doc
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I missed this bit of text. I catch the ROLLING ON FLOOR LAUGHING bit and assess it as an accurate response to the equally hazardous myth... But what in the world is MAO? Todd Swearingen ROFLMAO is Rolling On Floor Laughing My Ass Off! A bit stronger than ROFL. Motie Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/iZp8OC/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: Statement-SOLAROIL-Eu-tax.4.12.2001.doc
Keith Addison wrote: Ulp... Do you have a url for that, Alan? I think it was in response to a post in this list. Either that or the biodiesel list and I put in the wrong address on my reply. Either way, Oops. Somebody is practicing junk science. However the process to chemically change the structure of Pure Plant Oil, is a very costly operation and requires a lot of energy, as it removes the glycerine substituting it by methanol as well as adding other chemicals, **making the endproduct poisenous and equally hazardous as dieselfuel.** Um... Oops. -- Aviation is more than a hobby. It is more than a job. It is more than a career. Aviation is a way of life. A second language for the world: www.esperanto.com Processor cycles are a terrible thing to waste: www.distributed.net Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: Statement-SOLAROIL-Eu-tax.4.12.2001.doc
Alan Petrillo wrote: Keith Addison wrote: Ulp... Do you have a url for that, Alan? I think it was in response to a post in this list. Oops (my turn!), so it is - sorry, I missed that one. Well, no, actually, it was 47kb, and seemed to contain the same message at least twice, maybe I got bored. Sent 10 Feb 2002 by Woodland B.V. [EMAIL PROTECTED], touting Solaroilsystems.com: http://www.solaroilsystems.com/ Email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Either that or the biodiesel list and I put in the wrong address on my reply. Either way, Oops. Somebody is practicing junk science. It's just BS. Biodiesel is poisenous and equally hazardous as dieselfuel, sheesh. I wrote to Woodland and cc'd to Solaroilsystems.com, saying spreading such misinformation about biodiesel does the renewable fuels movement a disservice. I suggest others do likewise. You can read the message here: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?view=11392list=BIOFUEL Thanks Alan. Regards Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Osaka, Japan http://journeytoforever.org/ However the process to chemically change the structure of Pure Plant Oil, is a very costly operation and requires a lot of energy, as it removes the glycerine substituting it by methanol as well as adding other chemicals, **making the endproduct poisenous and equally hazardous as dieselfuel.** Um... Oops. -- Aviation is more than a hobby. It is more than a job. It is more than a career. Aviation is a way of life. A second language for the world: www.esperanto.com Processor cycles are a terrible thing to waste: www.distributed.net Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: Statement-SOLAROIL-Eu-tax.4.12.2001.doc
guess they missed the picture of the guy drinking his biodiesel. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and transport - http://24.190.106.81:8383/2000/humanpower.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 10:29 AM Subject: [biofuel] Re: Statement-SOLAROIL-Eu-tax.4.12.2001.doc Alan Petrillo wrote: Keith Addison wrote: Ulp... Do you have a url for that, Alan? I think it was in response to a post in this list. Oops (my turn!), so it is - sorry, I missed that one. Well, no, actually, it was 47kb, and seemed to contain the same message at least twice, maybe I got bored. Sent 10 Feb 2002 by Woodland B.V. [EMAIL PROTECTED], touting Solaroilsystems.com: http://www.solaroilsystems.com/ Email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Either that or the biodiesel list and I put in the wrong address on my reply. Either way, Oops. Somebody is practicing junk science. It's just BS. Biodiesel is poisenous and equally hazardous as dieselfuel, sheesh. I wrote to Woodland and cc'd to Solaroilsystems.com, saying spreading such misinformation about biodiesel does the renewable fuels movement a disservice. I suggest others do likewise. You can read the message here: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?view=11392list=BIOFUEL Thanks Alan. Regards Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Osaka, Japan http://journeytoforever.org/ However the process to chemically change the structure of Pure Plant Oil, is a very costly operation and requires a lot of energy, as it removes the glycerine substituting it by methanol as well as adding other chemicals, **making the endproduct poisenous and equally hazardous as dieselfuel.** Um... Oops. -- Aviation is more than a hobby. It is more than a job. It is more than a career. Aviation is a way of life. A second language for the world: www.esperanto.com Processor cycles are a terrible thing to waste: www.distributed.net Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: Statement-SOLAROIL-Eu-tax.4.12.2001.doc
They have made a mistake, but it is actually becoming a fairly common sentiment in Europe that pure plant oil (SVO) is greener and less polluting than biodiesel, that it is preferable from CO2 standpoint, and also because no methanol or processing (energy) is needed. Also, that apparently under the German water pollutants system of classification that plant oils are a 0,. biodiesel a 1, and diesel fuel a 2 (I think I have that stated correctly). I am not sure why that is, and I know that my friends in Environment Canada would say a biodiesel spill in waterways is probably preferable to a Canola spill... but that does seem to be the way it is under their (Germany's) way of classification of hazards. These folks have erred, but are not totally off base or totally different in their comments, from many others in that region. It is an opinion that is not to be ignored or downplayed, even if incorrectly presented in that post, IMHO. Edward Beggs From: steve spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 20:29:42 -0500 To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Statement-SOLAROIL-Eu-tax.4.12.2001.doc guess they missed the picture of the guy drinking his biodiesel. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and transport - http://24.190.106.81:8383/2000/humanpower.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 10:29 AM Subject: [biofuel] Re: Statement-SOLAROIL-Eu-tax.4.12.2001.doc Alan Petrillo wrote: Keith Addison wrote: Ulp... Do you have a url for that, Alan? I think it was in response to a post in this list. Oops (my turn!), so it is - sorry, I missed that one. Well, no, actually, it was 47kb, and seemed to contain the same message at least twice, maybe I got bored. Sent 10 Feb 2002 by Woodland B.V. [EMAIL PROTECTED], touting Solaroilsystems.com: http://www.solaroilsystems.com/ Email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Either that or the biodiesel list and I put in the wrong address on my reply. Either way, Oops. Somebody is practicing junk science. It's just BS. Biodiesel is poisenous and equally hazardous as dieselfuel, sheesh. I wrote to Woodland and cc'd to Solaroilsystems.com, saying spreading such misinformation about biodiesel does the renewable fuels movement a disservice. I suggest others do likewise. You can read the message here: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?view=11392list=BIOFUEL Thanks Alan. Regards Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Osaka, Japan http://journeytoforever.org/ However the process to chemically change the structure of Pure Plant Oil, is a very costly operation and requires a lot of energy, as it removes the glycerine substituting it by methanol as well as adding other chemicals, **making the endproduct poisenous and equally hazardous as dieselfuel.** Um... Oops. -- Aviation is more than a hobby. It is more than a job. It is more than a career. Aviation is a way of life. A second language for the world: www.esperanto.com Processor cycles are a terrible thing to waste: www.distributed.net Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
