Re: [biofuels-biz] DOE Grant

2002-06-10 Thread David Teal

Todd wrote:
David,

I'm trying to get a handle on what yesterday's technology is
relative to biodiesel manufacture.

Esterification and transesterification technologies aren't going
to be changing much more in the future than they have in the
recent past. And even if a few improvements in CP or catalysts
occur, the wheel is still going to be round, invaluable and
profitable.

Todd Swearingen

I have agreed with most of what you said to Tom.  The new technologies
include biological (enzymes) and phyical (UV, u'sonic) methods, algae
feedstock and such like.  This is distinct from fine-tuning our present
processes with heat exchangers, vacuum distillation etc.  The
batch/continuous question is irrelevant, although it would be interesting to
hear how Simon Wells' miniature continuous processor is coming along.

David T.



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Re: [biofuels-biz] DOE Grant

2002-06-09 Thread Shukrainternationals

I came back today and noticed your posting on biofuel site about the result
of the application to DOE.
It is too bad the application was rejected. My discussions with others after
the application was submitted kind of hinted me of the outcome.
If you have the confident that this project can be pulled even if there is
no Government help, then let me know. It all boils down to production cost
and the selling price in the market.
-Chandra
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 4:50 PM
Subject: [biofuels-biz] DOE Grant


 I got a reply from the US DOE yesterday saying they found no merit in my
 preliminary grant application. I'm a little disappointed, but thought
there
 might still be something of value here. If you have the time, let me know
 what you think

 Tom Leue
 Homestead Inc.

 Biomass Research and Development for the Production of Fuels, Power,
Chemicals
 and other Economical and Sustainable Products
 Solicitation 1435-01-02-RP-86382
 Pre-Application Submitted 5/14/02
 Submitted to   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Proposal for a Biodiesel Development Center

 Submitted by:   Thomas S. Leue, President, Homestead Inc.
 1664 Cape St., Williamsburg, MA 01096
 413 628-4533, Fax 413 628-3973
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Introduction
 Biodiesel fuel has been shown to be a superior diesel fuel in terms of
 environmental impact, balance of trade, global warming, toxicity,
emissions,
 engine longevity, etc. However, it has not been generally available to the
 public due to the limited number of producers and their geographic
locations.
 Biodiesel fuel has a potential to supply approximately 6.6% of national
 diesel fuel needs, according to the National Biodiesel Board (NBB). To
date,
 the NBB has concentrated on production of biodiesel made from virgin
soybean
 oil, and all testing has been limited to that product. This proposal will
 lead to the development of an urban biodiesel production facility in
Albany,
 New York that will demonstrate the commercial potential of a fuel
production
 business based on locally available yellow grease and other vegetable oil
 sources, along with providing the educational resources needed for others
to
 duplicate this facility model in many other urban areas throughout the US.

 Technical Narrative
 The production of biodiesel has been developed using numerous technologies
 over the past twenty years or longer. The technical know how is largely in
 the public domain, but has not led to widespread production throughout the
 US. For instance, this researcher maintains the only commercial scale
 production facility within a 500 mile radius, located in Western
 Massachusetts. The biodiesel biorefinery operated by Homestead Inc. is a
 pilot scale, batch type production facility. Although each batch produced
is
 small, currently 20 gallons net per batch and soon to go to 100 gallons
net
 per batch, the large number of batches produced, over 300 to date, has
 developed an in-depth understanding of the collection and processing
systems
 needed and the variability inherent in processing used vegetable oil. Over
 four years of development and operating experience has developed the basic
 requirements for a larger processing facility to be developed under this
 proposal.

 The development of another mid-sized biodiesel production facility by
itself
 will not significantly change the rate of utilization of this alternative
 fuel. For example, New York State is currently using over 250,000 gallons
 biodiesel per year, a large part of our initial annual production of up to
 1,000,000 gallons per year. The essence of this proposal is to operate a
 commercially viable biorefinery based on locally available yellow grease;
to
 promote the use and availability to the public of biodiesel fuel in both
B-20
 and B-100 formulations; to document the technical operations and project

 economics of biodiesel production for use in other startup ventures; to
make
 the facility accessible to the public for tours and formal training
sessions
 so as to promote the introduction of the technology throughout the urban
 centers of the US; to undertake necessary testing of yellow grease-based
 biodiesel as required by 40 CFR 79 that has not been accomplished to date;
 and to remove the current obstacles that hinder the more widespread
 development of production facilities in other urban centers.

 The initial plan would include some advanced energy management operations.
 For example, all normal energy inputs required for operation would be
 site-produced from either on-site biofueled diesel electrical generation,
 biodiesel operated transportation, or from direct utilization of
byproducts
 as an energy source for thermal process heat. The facility would be the
first
 post-petroleum production facility of its kind, having no provisions for
the
 on-site use of fossil fuels.

 After the initial startup and operation goals are met, the Biodiesel

Re: [biofuels-biz] DOE Grant

2002-06-09 Thread Appal Energy

Camillo,

Perhaps under STP business conditions lower gpd biodiesel
plants are less profitable than higher volumes. But
micro-regional processing generally is a slightly different
wildebeast. Once a process is honed to meet ASTM spec, inclusive
of meeting all legislative, environmental and safety dictates,
inclusive of NBB fees and production taxes, even a 500 gpd
micro-regional facility can generate employment and reasonable
profit.

Oddly enough, such small facilities enhance the communities they
are operating in, rather than larger facilities which reverse the
flow of many of the benefits.

It's a bit difficult to get the attention of a DOE grant panel
unless they are specifically looking for angles that enhance the
energy picture of small communities.

Still, strictly from a business perspective, a small plant could
easily support two or three medium sized families with room to
spare - even in the US.

Todd Swearingen

- Original Message -
From: Camillo Holecek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 8:56 AM
Subject: AW: [biofuels-biz] DOE Grant


Tom,

please allow me one question: What is the potential amount of
UVO,
yellow grease, grease trap and other feedstock within let's say
100
miles around you?

A 250,000 gallon per year initial production facility looks to
small to
be economic according to European experience, where fuel prices
are much
higher anyway.

I do not want to sound too critical, Its just that I do not
understand,
what is the point you want to make: If it is to produce BD from
yellow
grease at a commercial scale, that has been shown in several
places
already, is'nt it?

Or is it to develop a US technology for small batch equipment?
There is
Pacific biodiesel

Or is your aim to see as much production capacity up and running
in the
US as ASAP? In that case I belive our ENERGEA CTER technology
approach
may help investors to move into the field very fast.

Camillo Holecek
Biodiesel Raffinerie GmbH, and
ENERGEA biodiesel technology,
Austria

www.energea.at




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Betreff: [biofuels-biz] DOE Grant


I got a reply from the US DOE yesterday saying they found no
merit in my

preliminary grant application. I'm a little disappointed, but
thought
there
might still be something of value here. If you have the time, let
me
know
what you think

Tom Leue
Homestead Inc.

Biomass Research and Development for the Production of Fuels,
Power,
Chemicals
and other Economical and Sustainable Products
Solicitation 1435-01-02-RP-86382
Pre-Application Submitted 5/14/02
Submitted to   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Proposal for a Biodiesel Development Center

Submitted by:   Thomas S. Leue, President, Homestead Inc.
1664 Cape St., Williamsburg, MA 01096
413 628-4533, Fax 413 628-3973
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Introduction
Biodiesel fuel has been shown to be a superior diesel fuel in
terms of
environmental impact, balance of trade, global warming, toxicity,
emissions,
engine longevity, etc. However, it has not been generally
available to
the
public due to the limited number of producers and their
geographic
locations.
Biodiesel fuel has a potential to supply approximately 6.6% of
national
diesel fuel needs, according to the National Biodiesel Board
(NBB). To
date,
the NBB has concentrated on production of biodiesel made from
virgin
soybean
oil, and all testing has been limited to that product. This
proposal
will
lead to the development of an urban biodiesel production facility
in
Albany,
New York that will demonstrate the commercial potential of a fuel
production
business based on locally available yellow grease and other
vegetable
oil
sources, along with providing the educational resources needed
for
others to
duplicate this facility model in many other urban areas
throughout the
US.

Technical Narrative
The production of biodiesel has been developed using numerous
technologies
over the past twenty years or longer. The technical know how is
largely
in
the public domain, but has not led to widespread production
throughout
the
US. For instance, this researcher maintains the only commercial
scale
production facility within a 500 mile radius, located in Western
Massachusetts. The biodiesel biorefinery operated by Homestead
Inc. is a

pilot scale, batch type production facility. Although each batch
produced is
small, currently 20 gallons net per batch and soon to go to 100
gallons
net
per batch, the large number of batches produced, over 300 to
date, has
developed an in-depth understanding of the collection and
processing
systems
needed and the variability inherent in processing used vegetable
oil.
Over
four years of development and operating experience has developed
the
basic
requirements for a larger processing facility to be developed
under this

proposal.

The development of another mid-sized biodiesel production
facility

Re: [biofuels-biz] DOE Grant

2002-06-09 Thread Appal Energy

David,

I'm trying to get a handle on what yesterday's technology is
relative to biodiesel manufacture.

Esterification and transesterification technologies aren't going
to be changing much more in the future than they have in the
recent past. And even if a few improvements in CP or catalysts
occur, the wheel is still going to be round, invaluable and
profitable.

Todd Swearingen

- Original Message -
From: David Teal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] DOE Grant


 Tom,
 Camillo reckons 250,000 gal/yr is too small to be economic
based on European
 experience.  Please bear in mind that Europeans enjoyed a lot
of EU
 financial support and possibly illegal tax breaks in their home
markets.
 Therefore they did not have to hone costs in anything like the
way you have
 done at Yellow.  I would suggest you could be right in thinking
this is a
 good size, looking at the Australian and British scenes, which
started later
 and had to be leaner with far less financial help.
 My second point is that this forum is very concious of
promising research
 into new and better pathways for triglyceride to ester
conversion, so it
 would take a brave person to invest heavily in yesterday's
technology.  This
 is not meant as any sort of slight on Camillo's offering nor on
the
 appropriateness of reminding us of it.  Indeed, the same could
be said of
 Pacific's technology as mentioned by Keith.

 David T.


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Re: [biofuels-biz] DOE Grant

2002-06-09 Thread Appal Energy

Chandra,

You're discounting the minor detail of market economics called
profit.

Micro-facilities can be profitable, with or without government
assistance. The real trick is how big of a slice does the bank or
venture capitalist want and whether or not the investor is
willing to honor non-disclosure and no-competition agreements
that are valid in all international courts.

Too many investors too soon want to take a concept originator for
a ride, rather than being happy with the profits that the concept
produces under originally agreed to premises.

Todd Swearingen

- Original Message -
From: Shukrainternationals [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] DOE Grant


 I came back today and noticed your posting on biofuel site
about the result
 of the application to DOE.
 It is too bad the application was rejected. My discussions with
others after
 the application was submitted kind of hinted me of the outcome.
 If you have the confident that this project can be pulled even
if there is
 no Government help, then let me know. It all boils down to
production cost
 and the selling price in the market.
 -Chandra
 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 4:50 PM
 Subject: [biofuels-biz] DOE Grant


  I got a reply from the US DOE yesterday saying they found no
merit in my
  preliminary grant application. I'm a little disappointed, but
thought
 there
  might still be something of value here. If you have the time,
let me know
  what you think
 
  Tom Leue
  Homestead Inc.
 
  Biomass Research and Development for the Production of Fuels,
Power,
 Chemicals
  and other Economical and Sustainable Products
  Solicitation 1435-01-02-RP-86382
  Pre-Application Submitted 5/14/02
  Submitted to   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Proposal for a Biodiesel Development Center
 
  Submitted by:   Thomas S. Leue, President, Homestead Inc.
  1664 Cape St., Williamsburg, MA 01096
  413 628-4533, Fax 413 628-3973
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Introduction
  Biodiesel fuel has been shown to be a superior diesel fuel in
terms of
  environmental impact, balance of trade, global warming,
toxicity,
 emissions,
  engine longevity, etc. However, it has not been generally
available to the
  public due to the limited number of producers and their
geographic
 locations.
  Biodiesel fuel has a potential to supply approximately 6.6%
of national
  diesel fuel needs, according to the National Biodiesel Board
(NBB). To
 date,
  the NBB has concentrated on production of biodiesel made from
virgin
 soybean
  oil, and all testing has been limited to that product. This
proposal will
  lead to the development of an urban biodiesel production
facility in
 Albany,
  New York that will demonstrate the commercial potential of a
fuel
 production
  business based on locally available yellow grease and other
vegetable oil
  sources, along with providing the educational resources
needed for others
 to
  duplicate this facility model in many other urban areas
throughout the US.
 
  Technical Narrative
  The production of biodiesel has been developed using numerous
technologies
  over the past twenty years or longer. The technical know how
is largely in
  the public domain, but has not led to widespread production
throughout the
  US. For instance, this researcher maintains the only
commercial scale
  production facility within a 500 mile radius, located in
Western
  Massachusetts. The biodiesel biorefinery operated by
Homestead Inc. is a
  pilot scale, batch type production facility. Although each
batch produced
 is
  small, currently 20 gallons net per batch and soon to go to
100 gallons
 net
  per batch, the large number of batches produced, over 300 to
date, has
  developed an in-depth understanding of the collection and
processing
 systems
  needed and the variability inherent in processing used
vegetable oil. Over
  four years of development and operating experience has
developed the basic
  requirements for a larger processing facility to be developed
under this
  proposal.
 
  The development of another mid-sized biodiesel production
facility by
 itself
  will not significantly change the rate of utilization of this
alternative
  fuel. For example, New York State is currently using over
250,000 gallons
  biodiesel per year, a large part of our initial annual
production of up to
  1,000,000 gallons per year. The essence of this proposal is
to operate a
  commercially viable biorefinery based on locally available
yellow grease;
 to
  promote the use and availability to the public of biodiesel
fuel in both
 B-20
  and B-100 formulations; to document the technical operations
and project

  economics of biodiesel production for use in other startup
ventures; to
 make
  the facility accessible to the public for tours and formal
training
 sessions
  so as to promote the introduction of the technology
throughout the urban

AW: [biofuels-biz] DOE Grant

2002-06-08 Thread Camillo Holecek



-UrsprŸngliche Nachricht-
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Freitag, 07. Juni 2002 22:51
An: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: [biofuels-biz] DOE Grant


I got a reply from the US DOE yesterday saying they found no merit in my

preliminary grant application. I'm a little disappointed, but thought
there 
might still be something of value here. If you have the time, let me
know 
what you think

Tom Leue
Homestead Inc.

Biomass Research and Development for the Production of Fuels, Power,
Chemicals
and other Economical and Sustainable Products
Solicitation 1435-01-02-RP-86382
Pre-Application Submitted 5/14/02
Submitted to   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Proposal for a Biodiesel Development Center

Submitted by:   Thomas S. Leue, President, Homestead Inc.
1664 Cape St., Williamsburg, MA 01096
413 628-4533, Fax 413 628-3973
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Introduction
Biodiesel fuel has been shown to be a superior diesel fuel in terms of 
environmental impact, balance of trade, global warming, toxicity,
emissions,  
engine longevity, etc. However, it has not been generally available to
the 
public due to the limited number of producers and their geographic
locations. 
Biodiesel fuel has a potential to supply approximately 6.6% of national 
diesel fuel needs, according to the National Biodiesel Board (NBB). To
date, 
the NBB has concentrated on production of biodiesel made from virgin
soybean 
oil, and all testing has been limited to that product. This proposal
will 
lead to the development of an urban biodiesel production facility in
Albany, 
New York that will demonstrate the commercial potential of a fuel
production 
business based on locally available yellow grease and other vegetable
oil 
sources, along with providing the educational resources needed for
others to 
duplicate this facility model in many other urban areas throughout the
US.

Technical Narrative
The production of biodiesel has been developed using numerous
technologies 
over the past twenty years or longer. The technical know how is largely
in 
the public domain, but has not led to widespread production throughout
the 
US. For instance, this researcher maintains the only commercial scale 
production facility within a 500 mile radius, located in Western 
Massachusetts. The biodiesel biorefinery operated by Homestead Inc. is a

pilot scale, batch type production facility. Although each batch
produced is 
small, currently 20 gallons net per batch and soon to go to 100 gallons
net 
per batch, the large number of batches produced, over 300 to date, has 
developed an in-depth understanding of the collection and processing
systems 
needed and the variability inherent in processing used vegetable oil.
Over 
four years of development and operating experience has developed the
basic 
requirements for a larger processing facility to be developed under this

proposal.

The development of another mid-sized biodiesel production facility by
itself 
will not significantly change the rate of utilization of this
alternative 
fuel. For example, New York State is currently using over 250,000
gallons 
biodiesel per year, a large part of our initial annual production of up
to 
1,000,000 gallons per year. The essence of this proposal is to operate a

commercially viable biorefinery based on locally available yellow
grease; to 
promote the use and availability to the public of biodiesel fuel in both
B-20 
and B-100 formulations; to document the technical operations and project

economics of biodiesel production for use in other startup ventures; to
make 
the facility accessible to the public for tours and formal training
sessions 
so as to promote the introduction of the technology throughout the urban

centers of the US; to undertake necessary testing of yellow grease-based

biodiesel as required by 40 CFR 79 that has not been accomplished to
date; 
and to remove the current obstacles that hinder the more widespread 
development of production facilities in other urban centers.

The initial plan would include some advanced energy management
operations. 
For example, all normal energy inputs required for operation would be 
site-produced from either on-site biofueled diesel electrical
generation, 
biodiesel operated transportation, or from direct utilization of
byproducts 
as an energy source for thermal process heat. The facility would be the
first 
post-petroleum production facility of its kind, having no provisions for
the 
on-site use of fossil fuels. 

After the initial startup and operation goals are met, the Biodiesel 
Development Center would undertake research that has not been
extensively 
explored by others to date. For example, greasetrap waste represents a
large 
problem throughout the US, both in terms of the burden for maintenance
and 
operation of numerous public and private facilities, and also in 
environmentally acceptable disposal options in many locations. The
Biodiesel 
Development Center would undertake basic investigations

AW: [biofuels-biz] DOE Grant

2002-06-08 Thread Camillo Holecek

Tom,

please allow me one question: What is the potential amount of UVO,
yellow grease, grease trap and other feedstock within let's say 100
miles around you?

A 250,000 gallon per year initial production facility looks to small to
be economic according to European experience, where fuel prices are much
higher anyway.

I do not want to sound too critical, Its just that I do not understand,
what is the point you want to make: If it is to produce BD from yellow
grease at a commercial scale, that has been shown in several places
already, is'nt it?

Or is it to develop a US technology for small batch equipment? There is
Pacific biodiesel

Or is your aim to see as much production capacity up and running in the
US as ASAP? In that case I belive our ENERGEA CTER technology approach
may help investors to move into the field very fast.

Camillo Holecek
Biodiesel Raffinerie GmbH, and 
ENERGEA biodiesel technology,
Austria

www.energea.at




-UrsprŸngliche Nachricht-
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Freitag, 07. Juni 2002 22:51
An: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: [biofuels-biz] DOE Grant


I got a reply from the US DOE yesterday saying they found no merit in my

preliminary grant application. I'm a little disappointed, but thought
there 
might still be something of value here. If you have the time, let me
know 
what you think

Tom Leue
Homestead Inc.

Biomass Research and Development for the Production of Fuels, Power,
Chemicals
and other Economical and Sustainable Products
Solicitation 1435-01-02-RP-86382
Pre-Application Submitted 5/14/02
Submitted to   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Proposal for a Biodiesel Development Center

Submitted by:   Thomas S. Leue, President, Homestead Inc.
1664 Cape St., Williamsburg, MA 01096
413 628-4533, Fax 413 628-3973
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Introduction
Biodiesel fuel has been shown to be a superior diesel fuel in terms of 
environmental impact, balance of trade, global warming, toxicity,
emissions,  
engine longevity, etc. However, it has not been generally available to
the 
public due to the limited number of producers and their geographic
locations. 
Biodiesel fuel has a potential to supply approximately 6.6% of national 
diesel fuel needs, according to the National Biodiesel Board (NBB). To
date, 
the NBB has concentrated on production of biodiesel made from virgin
soybean 
oil, and all testing has been limited to that product. This proposal
will 
lead to the development of an urban biodiesel production facility in
Albany, 
New York that will demonstrate the commercial potential of a fuel
production 
business based on locally available yellow grease and other vegetable
oil 
sources, along with providing the educational resources needed for
others to 
duplicate this facility model in many other urban areas throughout the
US.

Technical Narrative
The production of biodiesel has been developed using numerous
technologies 
over the past twenty years or longer. The technical know how is largely
in 
the public domain, but has not led to widespread production throughout
the 
US. For instance, this researcher maintains the only commercial scale 
production facility within a 500 mile radius, located in Western 
Massachusetts. The biodiesel biorefinery operated by Homestead Inc. is a

pilot scale, batch type production facility. Although each batch
produced is 
small, currently 20 gallons net per batch and soon to go to 100 gallons
net 
per batch, the large number of batches produced, over 300 to date, has 
developed an in-depth understanding of the collection and processing
systems 
needed and the variability inherent in processing used vegetable oil.
Over 
four years of development and operating experience has developed the
basic 
requirements for a larger processing facility to be developed under this

proposal.

The development of another mid-sized biodiesel production facility by
itself 
will not significantly change the rate of utilization of this
alternative 
fuel. For example, New York State is currently using over 250,000
gallons 
biodiesel per year, a large part of our initial annual production of up
to 
1,000,000 gallons per year. The essence of this proposal is to operate a

commercially viable biorefinery based on locally available yellow
grease; to 
promote the use and availability to the public of biodiesel fuel in both
B-20 
and B-100 formulations; to document the technical operations and project

economics of biodiesel production for use in other startup ventures; to
make 
the facility accessible to the public for tours and formal training
sessions 
so as to promote the introduction of the technology throughout the urban

centers of the US; to undertake necessary testing of yellow grease-based

biodiesel as required by 40 CFR 79 that has not been accomplished to
date; 
and to remove the current obstacles that hinder the more widespread 
development of production facilities in other urban centers.

The initial plan would include some

Re: [biofuels-biz] DOE Grant

2002-06-08 Thread David Teal

Tom,
Camillo reckons 250,000 gal/yr is too small to be economic based on European
experience.  Please bear in mind that Europeans enjoyed a lot of EU
financial support and possibly illegal tax breaks in their home markets.
Therefore they did not have to hone costs in anything like the way you have
done at Yellow.  I would suggest you could be right in thinking this is a
good size, looking at the Australian and British scenes, which started later
and had to be leaner with far less financial help.
My second point is that this forum is very concious of promising research
into new and better pathways for triglyceride to ester conversion, so it
would take a brave person to invest heavily in yesterday's technology.  This
is not meant as any sort of slight on Camillo's offering nor on the
appropriateness of reminding us of it.  Indeed, the same could be said of
Pacific's technology as mentioned by Keith.

David T.


Biofuels at Journey to Forever
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html
Biofuel at WebConX
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Re: AW: [biofuels-biz] DOE Grant

2002-06-08 Thread Tilapia

Actually, the proposal is for 1,000,000 gpy plant.  My estimate is that there 
is about 1 gallon available for recovery per person per year. Albany is in a 
2,000,000 metro center, but the oil will come from beyond that area too.

The situation in the US is that it is illegal for small producers to make 
this fuel. Only large producers can afford the overhead payments to the NBB 
that has exclusive rights to make this stuff. I wanted to change that and 
start a movement of small entrepeneurs in urban centers. Note that the next 
nearest producer is over 500 miles away. Obviously the current production 
system does not work in the northeast US.  My proposal wanted to change all 
of that. Maybe yes, maybe no, but it was a proposal.


I also believe a production facility can be built for a lot less than the 
going rate. Lots of other basic research too, as time and more grants allow.


Tom Leue


In a message dated 6/8/02 8:57:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Tom,


please allow me one question: What is the potential amount of UVO,

yellow grease, grease trap and other feedstock within let's say 100

miles around you?


A 250,000 gallon per year initial production facility looks to small to

be economic according to European experience, where fuel prices are much

higher anyway.


I do not want to sound too critical, Its just that I do not understand,

what is the point you want to make: If it is to produce BD from yellow

grease at a commercial scale, that has been shown in several places

already, is'nt it?


Or is it to develop a US technology for small batch equipment? There is

Pacific biodiesel


Or is your aim to see as much production capacity up and running in the

US as ASAP? In that case I belive our ENERGEA CTER technology approach

may help investors to move into the field very fast.


Camillo Holecek

Biodiesel Raffinerie GmbH, and 

ENERGEA biodiesel technology,

Austria


www.energea.at 


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[biofuels-biz] DOE Grant

2002-06-07 Thread Tilapia

I got a reply from the US DOE yesterday saying they found no merit in my 
preliminary grant application. I'm a little disappointed, but thought there 
might still be something of value here. If you have the time, let me know 
what you think

Tom Leue
Homestead Inc.

Biomass Research and Development for the Production of Fuels, Power, Chemicals
and other Economical and Sustainable Products
Solicitation 1435-01-02-RP-86382
Pre-Application Submitted 5/14/02
Submitted to   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Proposal for a Biodiesel Development Center

Submitted by:   Thomas S. Leue, President, Homestead Inc.
1664 Cape St., Williamsburg, MA 01096
413 628-4533, Fax 413 628-3973
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Introduction
Biodiesel fuel has been shown to be a superior diesel fuel in terms of 
environmental impact, balance of trade, global warming, toxicity, emissions,  
engine longevity, etc. However, it has not been generally available to the 
public due to the limited number of producers and their geographic locations. 
Biodiesel fuel has a potential to supply approximately 6.6% of national 
diesel fuel needs, according to the National Biodiesel Board (NBB). To date, 
the NBB has concentrated on production of biodiesel made from virgin soybean 
oil, and all testing has been limited to that product. This proposal will 
lead to the development of an urban biodiesel production facility in Albany, 
New York that will demonstrate the commercial potential of a fuel production 
business based on locally available yellow grease and other vegetable oil 
sources, along with providing the educational resources needed for others to 
duplicate this facility model in many other urban areas throughout the US.

Technical Narrative
The production of biodiesel has been developed using numerous technologies 
over the past twenty years or longer. The technical know how is largely in 
the public domain, but has not led to widespread production throughout the 
US. For instance, this researcher maintains the only commercial scale 
production facility within a 500 mile radius, located in Western 
Massachusetts. The biodiesel biorefinery operated by Homestead Inc. is a 
pilot scale, batch type production facility. Although each batch produced is 
small, currently 20 gallons net per batch and soon to go to 100 gallons net 
per batch, the large number of batches produced, over 300 to date, has 
developed an in-depth understanding of the collection and processing systems 
needed and the variability inherent in processing used vegetable oil. Over 
four years of development and operating experience has developed the basic 
requirements for a larger processing facility to be developed under this 
proposal.

The development of another mid-sized biodiesel production facility by itself 
will not significantly change the rate of utilization of this alternative 
fuel. For example, New York State is currently using over 250,000 gallons 
biodiesel per year, a large part of our initial annual production of up to 
1,000,000 gallons per year. The essence of this proposal is to operate a 
commercially viable biorefinery based on locally available yellow grease; to 
promote the use and availability to the public of biodiesel fuel in both B-20 
and B-100 formulations; to document the technical operations and project 
economics of biodiesel production for use in other startup ventures; to make 
the facility accessible to the public for tours and formal training sessions 
so as to promote the introduction of the technology throughout the urban 
centers of the US; to undertake necessary testing of yellow grease-based 
biodiesel as required by 40 CFR 79 that has not been accomplished to date; 
and to remove the current obstacles that hinder the more widespread 
development of production facilities in other urban centers.

The initial plan would include some advanced energy management operations. 
For example, all normal energy inputs required for operation would be 
site-produced from either on-site biofueled diesel electrical generation, 
biodiesel operated transportation, or from direct utilization of byproducts 
as an energy source for thermal process heat. The facility would be the first 
post-petroleum production facility of its kind, having no provisions for the 
on-site use of fossil fuels. 

After the initial startup and operation goals are met, the Biodiesel 
Development Center would undertake research that has not been extensively 
explored by others to date. For example, greasetrap waste represents a large 
problem throughout the US, both in terms of the burden for maintenance and 
operation of numerous public and private facilities, and also in 
environmentally acceptable disposal options in many locations. The Biodiesel 
Development Center would undertake basic investigations as to cost effective 
methods of recapturing and utilizing this abundant resource for additional 
biofuel production.

Statement of Work
The proposed tasks are as follows:
A. Assembly of a