Re: [biofuel] John Deere biodiesel
In December 2001, John Deere announced its approval of the use of soybean-based biodiesel fuel in the tractors and other farm machines made by the company. On April 8, 2002, the company provided additional detail and clarification regarding John Deere's position on biodiesel. http://www.farmprogress.com/frmp/articleDetail/1,1494,8305+45,00.html 5% !!! Laughable! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/k6cvND/n97DAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] John Deere biodiesel
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHH ... 5% .. WHOA! ... Don't work too hard there!... phew! :) Deere John,... :) ... Well we probably don't have to turn our backs, but maybe they can resolve. ;O -Original Message- From: Ken Provost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 4:02 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] John Deere biodiesel In December 2001, John Deere announced its approval of the use of soybean-based biodiesel fuel in the tractors and other farm machines made by the company. On April 8, 2002, the company provided additional detail and clarification regarding John Deere's position on biodiesel. http://www.farmprogress.com/frmp/articleDetail/1,1494,8305+45,00.html 5% !!! Laughable! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT http://rd.yahoo.com/M=217097.2003762.3481930.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=1705 083269:HM/A=1042587/R=0/*http://service.bfast.com/bfast/click?bfmid=2915 0849siteid=39282504bfpage=account http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=217097.2003762.3481930.1261774/D=egrou pmail/S=1705083269:HM/A=1042587/rand=308990090 Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/k6cvND/n97DAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] John Deere biodiesel
Hello, Would it be possible for someone with knowledge to shed light on the following statements by John Deere? I was surprised to read that biodiesel is susceptible to degradation and water absorption and that Concentrations beyond 5%, by volume, could adversely affect engine performance and fuel system durability. From what I have learned about biodiesel this is a false statement. The article also states that your storage tanks should be full? I look forward to your feedback. Bellow are the two statements from http://www.farmprogress.com/frmp/articleDetail/1,1494,8305+45,00.html by John Deere. a.. Biodiesel, by definition is biodegradable. So, the higher the concentration of biodiesel in a fuel blend, the more susceptible the fuel is to degradation and water absorption. Concentrations of no more than 5% biodiesel are approved to minimize the potential problems associated with fuel degradation. Concentrations beyond 5%, by volume, could adversely affect engine performance and fuel system durability. a.. Operators should keep storage and vehicle tanks as full as possible to prevent moisture. Storage tanks should be protected from extreme temperatures and extended storage of biodiesel fuel should be limited. Routine monitoring of the fuel's water content is also recommended. Snip In December 2001, John Deere announced its approval of the use of soybean-based biodiesel fuel in the tractors and other farm machines made by the company. On April 8, 2002, the company provided additional detail and clarification regarding John Deere's position on biodiesel. http://www.farmprogress.com/frmp/articleDetail/1,1494,8305+45,00.html [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/k6cvND/n97DAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] John Deere biodiesel
Aidan W. wrote: The article also states that your storage tanks should be full? I look forward to your feedback. Storage tanks should always be kept as full as possible to minimize air space, and the chances of condensation contaminating the fuel with water. Storage tanks with a lot of air space in them tend to grow water. Particularly the above ground tanks. As they heat up during the day the air in the tank expands and exits the tank vents. Then as they cool down during the night the air in the tanks contracts and pulls air back into the vents. Any excess moisture in the air will condense on the tank walls, and eventually end up in the fuel. My experience is with aviation fuel farms, which must be drained of water every day. Many above ground fuel farms will drain off anywhere from a couple of ounces to a couple of gallons every day. AP -- Aviation is more than a hobby. It is more than a job. It is more than a career. Aviation is a way of life. A second language for the world: www.esperanto.com Processor cycles are a terrible thing to waste: www.distributed.net Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/k6cvND/n97DAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
