Re: [Biofuel] Any other lister in Malaysia?

2006-03-09 Thread Samira
So where do they plan to find 500,000t of biodiesel to make the B5 blend? i'm stumped. On 3/9/06, Rexis Tree 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:There is currently no new plans for more biodiesel refinary for local use as i know.
What is in their eye is only business sense, ie to export to europe where the needs for biodiesel is bigger. Anything related to environment or cleaner is simple just part of their advertisement technique. Hopefully that someone did an environmental inpact study to those biorefinary so we wont end up in polluted river or ground water etc.
Actually gov plan is to mandate B5 in 2008:http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/10/malaysia_to_man.html
I really hope this is not a talk-for-fun-only and wish to see action ASAP.
But on the other way, diesel vehicles is taxed many times more then gasoline vehicles in malaysia here. It is rediculous to own and maintance a diesel car. Plus there is not many small diesel available in malaysia. If theres any, the extra price will turn you away.
 

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Re: [Biofuel] Any other lister in Malaysia?

2006-03-09 Thread Rexis Tree
On 3/10/06, Samira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So where do they plan to find 500,000t of biodiesel to make the B5 blend? i'm stumped. I recalled that they only mentioned that they can save 500,000t of diesel by mandating B5 in the country, didnt mentioned about where to get this 500,000t thou. Malaysia is producing some 15 million tons of palm oil in year 2005.
http://econ.mpob.gov.my/economy/su_review2005.htm
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Re: [Biofuel] Any other lister in Malaysia?

2006-03-08 Thread Rexis Tree
There is currently no new plans for more biodiesel refinary for local use as i know.What is in their eye is only business sense, ie to export to europe where the needs for biodiesel is bigger. Anything related to environment or cleaner is simple just part of their advertisement technique. Hopefully that someone did an environmental inpact study to those biorefinary so we wont end up in polluted river or ground water etc.
Actually gov plan is to mandate B5 in 2008:http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/10/malaysia_to_man.htmlI really hope this is not a talk-for-fun-only and wish to see action ASAP.
But on the other way, diesel vehicles is taxed many times more then gasoline vehicles in malaysia here. It is rediculous to own and maintance a diesel car. Plus there is not many small diesel available in malaysia. If theres any, the extra price will turn you away.
 
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Re: [Biofuel] Any other lister in Malaysia?

2006-03-07 Thread Samira
How many new biodiesel plants is malaysia setting up? I only know of 3 (with a combined capacity of 180 000 t/yr) for export purposes. If the B5 blend is to be implemented locally, are there additional plants being built here to meet the needs? 
And could someone please direct me to information about the economical advantages of using biodiesel?Thanks,SamiraOn 3/4/06, Rexis Tree
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am from Malaysia as well, but i am not really too sure about how the palm oil biodiesel is progressing. It is said that gov is going to mandate a B5 in 2007 but no news ever since.Anyone can enlighten me with any useful information?



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Re: [Biofuel] Any other lister in Malaysia?

2006-03-03 Thread Rexis Tree
I am from Malaysia as well, but i am not really too sure about how the palm oil biodiesel is progressing. It is said that gov is going to mandate a B5 in 2007 but no news ever since.Anyone can enlighten me with any useful information?

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Re: [Biofuel] Any other lister in Malaysia?

2006-02-27 Thread nathan whampoa
dear louis,  i am from kuala lumpur,malaysia.what info that u like to know abt palm oil biodiesel?  athanLuis Eduardo Puerto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:It would be good if anybody either in Brazil or Malyasia, or wherever place in the world could share some information about doing biodiesel form palm oil. I have been looking in the web for some documents becuase I intend to write a plan for biodiesel production from palm oil in large scale. Most of what I have found is from soybean, and I know that palm oil has differenet characteristics than the one you can obtain from soybean. All information is welcome, I find very interesting how this list works and the best part is that all its members can discuss the different issues that
 today's energy environment is facing. The change is starting to happen and I am very excited of being able to be part of the process.Best regards,   Luis. Ivan Salustino [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribi?Keith,You have a point in keeping the discussionglobalas some of the hurdles to bring biodiesel mainstream are common in many countries: lack of economy of scale, difficulty to procure and high price of ingredients, lack of standards, lack of adapted technologies at each locationand even lack of freedom to commercialize biodiesel. At the same time, without calling people's
 attention to local issues there is less interest and engagement in the struggle to bring biodiesel mainstream.   In the case of Brazil, we have a lot of talk by Government and industry to start with a mandatory nationwide B02 next year and Petrobras plans to monopolize de industry with the construction this year of several regional production plants designed for different vegetable oils. At the same time, Ethanol production is on full capacity and later this year there will not be enough to keep up with national consumption and export commitments. Unfortunately civil societyis ignoring this discussion and we may end up in the same emergency situation we were a few years ago in respect to electricity demand surpassing generation.  Regards,  Ivan 
  Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 01:36:57 +0900 To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Any other lister in Malaysia?  Hello Ivan Keith,Since you mentioned it, I would like to exchange information with active list members in Brazil.Thanks,Ivan  Go right ahead, if you've something useful to discuss (as in my reply  to Allan in Scotland). There's room for local discussions, but it's  essentially a global list and it definitely has to stay that way.  Ideal would be local discussions that were also generally informative  or gave a different perspective. That shouldn't be too difficult with  a country like Brazil, and welcome. I'm sure you can see what I'm  saying. "Think globally act locally" should be a good guideline,
 as  ever. Local issues is what it all comes down to in the end, but  nobody else wants to read a series of me-too's and nothing else  happens.  Best  Keith Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:26:30 +0900  To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Any other lister in Malaysia?   Hello all, wherever and elsewhere.   There are at least 30 Biofuel list members in Malaysia, and at least  15 in Scotland. There are list members in just about every country  and from almost every culture. I don't see much point in checking  who's here from where unless there's a specific reason for contacting  other local people. Is there, in either of these cases?  
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Re: [Biofuel] Any other lister in Malaysia?

2006-02-27 Thread nathan whampoa
thankyou samira,hope we can change malaysian attitude toward fossil fuel:)  athan.Samira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi.. This is Samira. I live in KL, near PWTC... Doing biochemical engineering (undergrad - final year).. Good to know there are more people from Malaysia on this list.Been learning a lot from all your conversations... :) ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000
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Re: [Biofuel] Any other lister in Malaysia?

2006-02-22 Thread Luis Eduardo Puerto
It would be good if anybody either in Brazil or Malyasia, or wherever place in the world could share some information about doing biodiesel form palm oil. I have been looking in the web for some documents becuase I intend to write a plan for biodiesel production from palm oil in large scale. Most of what I have found is from soybean, and I know that palm oil has differenet characteristics than the one you can obtain from soybean. All information is welcome, I find very interesting how this list works and the best part is that all its members can discuss the different issues that today's energy environment is facing. The change is starting to happen and I am very excited of being able to be part of the process.Best regards,   Luis. Ivan Salustino [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:Keith,You have a point in keeping the discussionglobalas some of the hurdles to bring biodiesel mainstream are common in many countries: lack of economy of scale, difficulty to procure and high price of ingredients, lack of standards, lack of adapted technologies at each locationand even lack of freedom to commercialize biodiesel. At the same time, without calling people's attention to local issues there is less interest and engagement in the struggle to bring biodiesel mainstream.   In the case of Brazil, we have a lot of talk by Government and industry to start with a mandatory nationwide B02 next year and Petrobras
 plans to monopolize de industry with the construction this year of several regional production plants designed for different vegetable oils. At the same time, Ethanol production is on full capacity and later this year there will not be enough to keep up with national consumption and export commitments. Unfortunately civil societyis ignoring this discussion and we may end up in the same emergency situation we were a few years ago in respect to electricity demand surpassing generation.  Regards,  Ivan   Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 01:36:57 +0900 To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Any other lister in Malaysia?  Hello Ivan Keith,Since you mentioned it, I
 would like to exchange information with active list members in Brazil.Thanks,Ivan  Go right ahead, if you've something useful to discuss (as in my reply  to Allan in Scotland). There's room for local discussions, but it's  essentially a global list and it definitely has to stay that way.  Ideal would be local discussions that were also generally informative  or gave a different perspective. That shouldn't be too difficult with  a country like Brazil, and welcome. I'm sure you can see what I'm  saying. "Think globally act locally" should be a good guideline, as  ever. Local issues is what it all comes down to in the end, but  nobody else wants to read a series of me-too's and nothing else  happens.  Best  Keith Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:26:30 +0900
  To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Any other lister in Malaysia?   Hello all, wherever and elsewhere.   There are at least 30 Biofuel list members in Malaysia, and at least  15 in Scotland. There are list members in just about every country  and from almost every culture. I don't see much point in checking  who's here from where unless there's a specific reason for contacting  other local people. Is there, in either of these cases?   All best   Keith Addison  Journey to Forever  KYOTO Pref., Japan  http://journeytoforever.org/   ___ Biofuel mailing list
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Re: [Biofuel] Any other lister in Malaysia?

2006-02-21 Thread Keith Addison
Hello all, wherever and elsewhere.

There are at least 30 Biofuel list members in Malaysia, and at least 
15 in Scotland. There are list members in just about every country 
and from almost every culture. I don't see much point in checking 
who's here from where unless there's a specific reason for contacting 
other local people. Is there, in either of these cases?

All best

Keith Addison
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KYOTO Pref., Japan
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Re: [Biofuel] Any other lister in Malaysia?

2006-02-21 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Allan

Hi,

For me there was, as I am struggling to find suppliers for some of the
chemicals etc etc.

But you didn't say so, all you said was this:

Adding on from this, I would like to know if we have any people from
Scotland on the list

People do struggle to find chemicals. Quite often they claim it's 
impossible, they're not available or too expensive. But eventually 
they find good sources. These chemicals are available at reasonable 
prices all over the world, once you find your way. It might be 
worthwhile swapping notes with other locals about this, and useful to 
have the results in the archives for others to find. But it won't 
happen unless you say what difficulties you're having and what you've 
tried so far.

It also helps if there is someone local to either talk
to or colaborate with - two heads better than one and all that.

Indeed. So go on and talk then.

Apologies if I have misused the mailing list.

Thankyou, but no need. Haven't used it enough maybe. :-)

Best

Keith



Allan.


  Hello all, wherever and elsewhere.
 
  There are at least 30 Biofuel list members in Malaysia, and at least
  15 in Scotland. There are list members in just about every country
  and from almost every culture. I don't see much point in checking
  who's here from where unless there's a specific reason for contacting
  other local people. Is there, in either of these cases?
 
  All best
 
  Keith Addison
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  http://journeytoforever.org/
 


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Re: [Biofuel] Any other lister in Malaysia?

2006-02-21 Thread allan
Hi,

For me there was, as I am struggling to find suppliers for some of the
chemicals etc etc. It also helps if there is someone local to either talk
to or colaborate with - two heads better than one and all that.

Apologies if I have misused the mailing list.

Allan.


 Hello all, wherever and elsewhere.

 There are at least 30 Biofuel list members in Malaysia, and at least
 15 in Scotland. There are list members in just about every country
 and from almost every culture. I don't see much point in checking
 who's here from where unless there's a specific reason for contacting
 other local people. Is there, in either of these cases?

 All best

 Keith Addison
 Journey to Forever
 KYOTO Pref., Japan
 http://journeytoforever.org/



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Re: [Biofuel] Any other lister in Malaysia?

2006-02-21 Thread Ivan Salustino


Keith,

Since you mentioned it, I would like to exchange information with activelist members in Brazil.Thanks,
Ivan



 Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:26:30 +0900 To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Any other lister in Malaysia?  Hello all, wherever and elsewhere.  There are at least 30 Biofuel list members in Malaysia, and at least  15 in Scotland. There are list members in just about every country  and from almost every culture. I don't see much point in checking  who's here from where unless there's a specific reason for contacting  other local people. Is there, in either of these cases?  All best  Keith Addison Journey to Forever KYOTO Pref., Japan http://journeytoforever.org/___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org  Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html  Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! MSN Messenger
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Re: [Biofuel] Any other lister in Malaysia?

2006-02-21 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Ivan

Keith,

Since you mentioned it, I would like to exchange information with 
active list members in Brazil.

Thanks,

Ivan

Go right ahead, if you've something useful to discuss (as in my reply 
to Allan in Scotland). There's room for local discussions, but it's 
essentially a global list and it definitely has to stay that way. 
Ideal would be local discussions that were also generally informative 
or gave a different perspective. That shouldn't be too difficult with 
a country like Brazil, and welcome. I'm sure you can see what I'm 
saying. Think globally act locally should be a good guideline, as 
ever. Local issues is what it all comes down to in the end, but 
nobody else wants to read a series of me-too's and nothing else 
happens.

Best

Keith



  Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:26:30 +0900
  To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Any other lister in Malaysia?
 
  Hello all, wherever and elsewhere.
 
  There are at least 30 Biofuel list members in Malaysia, and at least
  15 in Scotland. There are list members in just about every country
  and from almost every culture. I don't see much point in checking
  who's here from where unless there's a specific reason for contacting
  other local people. Is there, in either of these cases?
 
  All best
 
  Keith Addison
  Journey to Forever
  KYOTO Pref., Japan
  http://journeytoforever.org/


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Re: [Biofuel] Any other lister in Malaysia?

2006-02-21 Thread Ivan Salustino


Keith,

You have a point in keeping the discussionglobalas some of the hurdles to bring biodiesel mainstream are common in many countries: lack of economy of scale, difficulty to procure and high price of ingredients, lack of standards, lack of adapted technologies at each locationand even lack of freedom to commercialize biodiesel. At the same time, without calling people's attention to local issues there is less interest and engagement in the struggle to bring biodiesel mainstream. 
In the case of Brazil, we have a lot of talk by Government and industry to start with a mandatory nationwide B02 next year and Petrobras plans to monopolize de industry with the construction this year of several regional production plants designed for different vegetable oils. At the same time, Ethanol production is on full capacity and later this year there will not be enough to keep up with national consumption and export commitments. Unfortunately civil societyis ignoring this discussion and we may end up in the same emergency situation we were a few years ago in respect to electricity demand surpassing generation.
Regards,
Ivan



 Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 01:36:57 +0900 To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Any other lister in Malaysia?  Hello Ivan Keith,Since you mentioned it, I would like to exchange information with active list members in Brazil.Thanks,Ivan  Go right ahead, if you've something useful to discuss (as in my reply  to Allan in Scotland). There's room for local discussions, but it's  essentially a global list and it definitely has to stay that way.  Ideal would be local discussions that were also generally informative  or gave a different perspective. That shouldn't be too difficult with  a country like Brazil, and welcome. I'm sure you can see what I'm  saying. "Think globally act locally" should be a good guideline, as  ever. Local issues is what it all comes down to in the end, but  nobody else wants to read a series of me-too's and nothing else  happens.  Best  Keith Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:26:30 +0900  To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Any other lister in Malaysia?   Hello all, wherever and elsewhere.   There are at least 30 Biofuel list members in Malaysia, and at least  15 in Scotland. There are list members in just about every country  and from almost every culture. I don't see much point in checking  who's here from where unless there's a specific reason for contacting  other local people. Is there, in either of these cases?   All best   Keith Addison  Journey to Forever  KYOTO Pref., Japan  http://journeytoforever.org/   ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org  Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html  Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! MSN Messenger
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Re: [Biofuel] Any other lister in Malaysia?

2006-02-20 Thread ee weei
Hi, I'm from Malaysia.Martin Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi Allan.I live just outside Edinburgh (Tranent).Regards.Martin[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Adding on from this, I would like to know if we have any people from  Scotland on the listCheers,AllanIn line with what Josh just asked, is there anyone on this list from  Malaysia?___  Biofuel mailing list  Biofuel@sustainablelists.org  http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:  http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000  messages):  http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/  ___  Biofuel mailing list  Biofuel@sustainablelists.org  http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at
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Re: [Biofuel] Any other lister in Malaysia?

2006-02-18 Thread Manick Harris
My name is Edward Monickavasagam. I'm ret'd from Rubber Research Institute of Malaysia. I live in Penang now."Gary L. Green" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  On 17 Feb 2006, at 21:59, Khin Wei Chong wrote: Hi...Im KW.Chong from KL, MalaysiaHello Mr. Chong. I live in Taman Seputeh, near Midvalley Megamall. My Chiropractic centre is in Brickfields. www.chiro.com.myGood to see other folks here from KL. Are you involved in any local energy projects? --- "Gary L. Green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: In line with what Josh just asked, is there anyone on this list from Malaysia? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
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Re: [Biofuel] Any other lister in Malaysia?

2006-02-18 Thread Martin Douglas




Hi Allan.
I live just outside Edinburgh (Tranent).
Regards.
Martin

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  Adding on from this, I would like to know if we have any people from
Scotland on the list

Cheers,

Allan

  
  
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Malaysia?

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Re: [Biofuel] Any other lister in Malaysia?

2006-02-18 Thread Gary L. Green
Now that's a place with tons of trash that could be reused for all  
sorts of stuff.


On  18Feb, 2006, at 6:53 PM, Manick Harris wrote:

 My name is Edward Monickavasagam. I'm ret'd from Rubber  Research  
 Institute of Malaysia. I live in Penang now.


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Re: [Biofuel] Any other lister in Malaysia?

2006-02-18 Thread Samira
Hi.. This is Samira. I live in KL, near PWTC... Doing biochemical engineering (undergrad - final year).. Good to know there are more people from Malaysia on this list.Been learning a lot from all your conversations... :)

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Re: [Biofuel] Any other lister in Malaysia?

2006-02-17 Thread allan
Adding on from this, I would like to know if we have any people from
Scotland on the list

Cheers,

Allan

 In line with what Josh just asked, is there anyone on this list from
 Malaysia?

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Re: [Biofuel] Any other lister in Malaysia?

2006-02-17 Thread Khin Wei Chong
Hi...Im KW.Chong from KL, Malaysia

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Re: [Biofuel] Any other lister in Malaysia?

2006-02-17 Thread Kenji James Fuse
I've got a friend named Mark (Marc?) Masur living in KL. He plays in the
Philharmonic (percussion), and he was asking me about biodiesel for
running his generator.

I'll try to find his email, but you could probably phone the Malaysia
Philharmonic and ask for him (or leave a message - I don't know how
uptight the Petron-ASS people are?).

Kenji Fuse

On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Khin Wei Chong wrote:

 Hi...Im KW.Chong from KL, Malaysia

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Re: [Biofuel] Any other lister in Malaysia?

2006-02-17 Thread Gary L. Green

On 17 Feb 2006, at 21:59, Khin Wei Chong wrote:

 Hi...Im KW.Chong from KL, Malaysia

Hello Mr. Chong.  I live in Taman Seputeh, near Midvalley Megamall.   
My Chiropractic centre is in Brickfields.  www.chiro.com.my

Good to see other folks here from KL.  Are you involved in any local  
energy projects?



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