Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release
Naww for blackflies what you want is pine pitch. Collect it where it drips from an injured tree. Slather it liberaly over any exposed skin / hair. It makes a wonderful lip balm when used directly too I am told. Joe mark manchester wrote: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release What a fantastic solution this might be during BlackFly Season AAAGGG! Thanks Kim. Jesse From: Garth Kim Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 08:38:28 -0600 To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release Greetings, We have found that real vanilla, mixed 1/2 1/2 with water and sprayed on skin is extremely effective against mesquitos here in Texas. It is possible to buy clear vanilla from Mexico so you don't stain your clothes. It also smells much nicer than bacon grease. Might help with the babe problem, as well. Bright Blessings, Kim At 08:08 AM 2/15/2006, you wrote: BTW and this is a little off topic as well but while we're on the natural remedies subject I've also found that rubbing bacon grease all over myself and my tent is very effective against mosquitos when I'm travelling in bear country. It's not a babe magnet either :( It doesn't polarise fuel either:( I guess I'm not being too helpful. :( Joe Michael Redler wrote: One remedy for heavy metals does not a babe-magnet make. :-) Mike Tom Irwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mike and All, I'm increasing my garlic intake. It seems that one of the compounds in garlic acts as a chelating agent for heavy metals. I don't know if it will catch mercury but it is supposed to be fairly effective for lead. Tom Irwin From: Mike McGinness [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] To: Sent: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:54:55 -0300 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release The mercury in vaccines and flu shots has been reduced 99.9% from what it was a few years ago (I researched this a few months ago for a recent booster shot) if you get the right supplier!! BUT, Ask to see the paper work first for the actual vial being used!! I found that out while dealing with the local County Health Clinic dispensing the Vaccines recently. Of course that begs the next question of what toxin they replaced the mercury with to keep the vaccine and flu shots sterile and presumably safe! Mike McGinness Margo wrote: Mercury seems to be in the vaccines as well, including flu shots. I don't know what the answer is, but there must be a better answer than some of the things we humans have come up with so far. I still think the natural food industry has a lot to contribute in this area. Young Living has some very interesting information in some of their latest studies. - Original Message - From: "Mike McGinness" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release In regards to mercury emissions from burning coal and my prior comments: I almost forgot the really big, big BIG issue. All silver colored dental fillings are currently still made from mercury amalgam metal alloy (50% raw mercury!!!) according to my local dentist Therefore, We are probably the single largest unregulated source of mercury emissions in the environment! Thanks to the FDA! Mike McGinness ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to For
Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release
Howdy all, vanillin is the active ingredient in vanilla, usually an ethanol extract of the vanilla bean. a few years back consumers union did a test of various insect repellents and found nothing to be as effective as a 20 per cent topically applied DEET (N,N-diethyl, m-toluamide) vanilla extract worked as a repellent but not as well or for as long as DEET. http://www.ipm.iastate.edu/ipm/hortnews/1993/6-30-1993/repel.html now before you jump my chops as to just how toxic this synthetic chemical is, I am aware that there have been a very limited number of reports of children suffering temporary neuologic symptoms out of a user population of 100's of millions here in the US. Compared to preventable cases of Lyme disease, tularemia, and a welter of other diseases with insect vectors, the risk is of use of DEET is small. Andres Secco wrote: You mean vanilla or vanillin? Commercially is also available ethylvanillin. Remarkable idea!!! - Original Message - *From:* Garth Kim Travis mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Sent:* Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:38 AM *Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release Greetings, We have found that real vanilla, mixed 1/2 1/2 with water and sprayed on skin is extremely effective against mesquitos here in Texas. It is possible to buy clear vanilla from Mexico so you don't stain your clothes. It also smells much nicer than bacon grease. Might help with the babe problem, as well. Bright Blessings, Kim At 08:08 AM 2/15/2006, you wrote: BTW and this is a little off topic as well but while we're on the natural remedies subject I've also found that rubbing bacon grease all over myself and my tent is very effective against mosquitos when I'm travelling in bear country. It's not a babe magnet either :( It doesn't polarise fuel either:( I guess I'm not being too helpful. :( Joe Michael Redler wrote: One remedy for heavy metals does not a babe-magnet make. :-) Mike */Tom Irwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Hi Mike and All, I'm increasing my garlic intake. It seems that one of the compounds in garlic acts as a chelating agent for heavy metals. I don't know if it will catch mercury but it is supposed to be fairly effective for lead. Tom Irwin From: Mike McGinness [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] To: Sent: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:54:55 -0300 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release The mercury in vaccines and flu shots has been reduced 99.9% from what it was a few years ago (I researched this a few months ago for a recent booster shot) if you get the right supplier!! BUT, Ask to see the paper work first for the actual vial being used!! I found that out while dealing with the local County Health Clinic dispensing the Vaccines recently. Of course that begs the next question of what toxin they replaced the mercury with to keep the vaccine and flu shots sterile and presumably safe! Mike McGinness Margo wrote: Mercury seems to be in the vaccines as well, including flu shots. I don't know what the answer is, but there must be a better answer than some of the things we humans have come up with so far. I still think the natural food industry has a lot to contribute in this area. Young Living has some very interesting information in some of their latest studies. - Original Message - From: Mike McGinness [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release In regards to mercury emissions from burning coal and my prior comments: I almost forgot the really big, big BIG issue. All silver colored dental fillings are currently still made from mercury amalgam metal alloy (50% raw mercury!!!) according to my local dentist Therefore, We
Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release
Thanks Bob,I don't have a lot of information on DEET and therefore have no reason to question your analysis. That said, I can't help but notice the similarity (phonetically) between DEET and DDT. So I was wondering if it gets a bad rap for that reason. After a quick search, I found this:"You love to go birding, but you hate those mosquitoes. Is it bird-friendly to use a DEET repellent? Didn't DEET make the eggs of birds too thin? Nope, that was DDT"http://www.lisashea.com/birding/mosquito/deet.htmlMike bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy all,vanillin is the active ingredient in vanilla, usually an ethanol extract of the vanilla bean. a few years back consumers union did a test of various insect repellents and found nothing to be as effective as a 20 per cent topically applied DEET (N,N-diethyl, m-toluamide) vanilla extract worked as a repellent but not as well or for as long as DEET.http://www.ipm.iastate.edu/ipm/hortnews/1993/6-30-1993/repel.htmlnow before you jump my chops as to just how toxic this synthetic chemical is, I am aware that there have been a very limited number of reports of children suffering temporary neuologic symptoms out of a user population of 100's of millions here in the US. Compared to preventable cases of Lyme disease, tularemia, and a welter of other diseases with insect vectors, the risk is of use of DEET is small.[snip]___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release
Greetings, I mean vanilla, like you use for baking, the stuff from the kitchen. The artificially flavored stuff doesn't work, the mesquites know the difference. Bright Blessings, Kim At 09:14 PM 2/15/2006, you wrote: You mean vanilla or vanillin? Commercially is also available ethylvanillin. Remarkable idea!!! ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release
People complain about the mosquitoes in the summertime in this rice-growing rural area of Japan, very humid and lots of standing water around. Yes indeed they do bite and yes it itches, but these aren't REAL mosquities, not according to my experience. Of all the parts of the world I've been bitten by mosquitoes in, by far the most aggressive and plain *nasty* are the mosquitoes of the New Territories in Hong Kong, especially the Outlying Islands. Only two things work - DEET, which is horrible stuff to have on your skin anyway, regardless of how safe it might be (not), and lemongrass, which is as effective as DEET but the effect only lasts about two-thirds as long, 4-5 hours. Nothing else we tried worked. More details here: http://journeytoforever.org/edu_homer.html Handmade Organic Mosquito Repellent (HOMeR) Best Keith Howdy all, vanillin is the active ingredient in vanilla, usually an ethanol extract of the vanilla bean. a few years back consumers union did a test of various insect repellents and found nothing to be as effective as a 20 per cent topically applied DEET (N,N-diethyl, m-toluamide) vanilla extract worked as a repellent but not as well or for as long as DEET. http://www.ipm.iastate.edu/ipm/hortnews/1993/6-30-1993/repel.html now before you jump my chops as to just how toxic this synthetic chemical is, I am aware that there have been a very limited number of reports of children suffering temporary neuologic symptoms out of a user population of 100's of millions here in the US. Compared to preventable cases of Lyme disease, tularemia, and a welter of other diseases with insect vectors, the risk is of use of DEET is small. Andres Secco wrote: You mean vanilla or vanillin? Commercially is also available ethylvanillin. Remarkable idea!!! - Original Message - *From:* Garth Kim Travis mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Sent:* Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:38 AM *Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release Greetings, We have found that real vanilla, mixed 1/2 1/2 with water and sprayed on skin is extremely effective against mesquitos here in Texas. It is possible to buy clear vanilla from Mexico so you don't stain your clothes. It also smells much nicer than bacon grease. Might help with the babe problem, as well. Bright Blessings, Kim At 08:08 AM 2/15/2006, you wrote: BTW and this is a little off topic as well but while we're on the natural remedies subject I've also found that rubbing bacon grease all over myself and my tent is very effective against mosquitos when I'm travelling in bear country. It's not a babe magnet either :( It doesn't polarise fuel either:( I guess I'm not being too helpful. :( Joe snip ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release
I am so sorry to say that nothing you can eat will stop the heavy metals contamination if they are in your food or water. I do not know about food or water but our railway painters were given free milk to drink because of the lead based paints they had to use. Chris Wessex Ferret Club www.wessexferretclub.co.uk ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release
BTW and this is a little off topic as well but while we're on the natural remedies subject I've also found that rubbing bacon grease all over myself and my tent is very effective against mosquitos when I'm travelling in bear country. It's not a babe magnet either :( It doesn't polarise fuel either:( I guess I'm not being too helpful. :( Joe Michael Redler wrote: One remedy for heavy metals does not a babe-magnet make. :-) Mike Tom Irwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mike and All, I'm increasing my garlic intake. It seems that one of the compounds in garlic acts as a chelating agent for heavy metals. I don't know if it will catch mercury but it is supposed to be fairly effective for lead. Tom Irwin From: Mike McGinness [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] To: Sent: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:54:55 -0300 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release The mercury in vaccines and flu shots has been reduced 99.9% from what it was a few years ago (I researched this a few months ago for a recent booster shot) if you get the right supplier!! BUT, Ask to see the paper work first for the actual vial being used!! I found that out while dealing with the local County Health Clinic dispensing the Vaccines recently. Of course that begs the next question of what toxin they replaced the mercury with to keep the vaccine and flu shots sterile and presumably safe! Mike McGinness Margo wrote: Mercury seems to be in the vaccines as well, including flu shots. I don't know what the answer is, but there must be a better answer than some of the things we humans have come up with so far. I still think the natural food industry has a lot to contribute in this area. Young Living has some very interesting information in some of their latest studies. - Original Message - From: "Mike McGinness" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release In regards to mercury emissions from burning coal and my prior comments: I almost forgot the really big, big BIG issue. All silver colored dental fillings are currently still made from mercury amalgam metal alloy (50% raw mercury!!!) according to my local dentist Therefore, We are probably the single largest unregulated source of mercury emissions in the environment! Thanks to the FDA! Mike McGinness ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release
Joe:
Bacon grease may not turn you into a
babe magnet but the black bears will certainly find you and your tent attractive
as well as tasty.
Doug Turner
- Original Message -
From:
Joe Street
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:08
AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted:
Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release
BTW and this is a little off topic as well but while we're on
the natural remedies subject I've also found that rubbing bacon grease all
over myself and my tent is very effective against mosquitos when I'm
travelling in bear country. It's not a babe magnet either :( It doesn't
polarise fuel either:( I guess I'm not being too helpful.
:(JoeMichael Redler wrote:
One remedy for heavy metals does not a babe-magnet make.
:-)
Mike
Tom Irwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Mike and All,
I'm increasing my garlic intake. It seems that one of the compounds
in garlic acts as a chelating agent for heavy metals. I don't know if it
will catch mercury but it is supposed to be fairly effective for
lead.
Tom Irwin
From: Mike McGinness [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]To:
Sent: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:54:55 -0300Subject: Re:
[Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report ReleaseThe mercury in vaccines and flu shots has been
reduced 99.9% from what it was a few yearsago (I researched this a
few months ago for a recent booster shot) if you get the
rightsupplier!! BUT, Ask to see the paper work first for the
actual vial being used!! Ifound that out while dealing with the
local County Health Clinic dispensing the
Vaccinesrecently.Of course that begs the next question of
what toxin they replaced the mercury with to keepthe vaccine and flu
shots sterile and presumably safe!Mike
McGinnessMargo wrote: Mercury seems to be in the
vaccines as well, including flu shots. I don't know what the
answer is, but there must be a better answer than some of the
things we humans have come up with so far. I still think
the natural food industry has a lot to contribute in this area.
Young Living has some very interesting information in some of
their latest studies. - Original Message
- From: "Mike McGinness" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel]
Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release
In regards to mercury emissions from burning coal and my prior
comments: I almost forgot the really big, big
BIG issue. All silver colored dental fillings are currently
still made from mercury amalgam metal alloy (50% raw
mercury!!!) according to my local dentist Therefore,
We are probably the single largest unregulated source of
mercury emissions in the environment! Thanks to the
FDA! Mike McGinness
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Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release
Greetings, We have found that real vanilla, mixed 1/2 1/2 with water and sprayed on skin is extremely effective against mesquitos here in Texas. It is possible to buy clear vanilla from Mexico so you don't stain your clothes. It also smells much nicer than bacon grease. Might help with the babe problem, as well. Bright Blessings, Kim At 08:08 AM 2/15/2006, you wrote: BTW and this is a little off topic as well but while we're on the natural remedies subject I've also found that rubbing bacon grease all over myself and my tent is very effective against mosquitos when I'm travelling in bear country. It's not a babe magnet either :( It doesn't polarise fuel either:( I guess I'm not being too helpful. :( Joe Michael Redler wrote: One remedy for heavy metals does not a babe-magnet make. :-) Mike Tom Irwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mike and All, I'm increasing my garlic intake. It seems that one of the compounds in garlic acts as a chelating agent for heavy metals. I don't know if it will catch mercury but it is supposed to be fairly effective for lead. Tom Irwin From: Mike McGinness [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] To: Sent: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:54:55 -0300 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release The mercury in vaccines and flu shots has been reduced 99.9% from what it was a few years ago (I researched this a few months ago for a recent booster shot) if you get the right supplier!! BUT, Ask to see the paper work first for the actual vial being used!! I found that out while dealing with the local County Health Clinic dispensing the Vaccines recently. Of course that begs the next question of what toxin they replaced the mercury with to keep the vaccine and flu shots sterile and presumably safe! Mike McGinness Margo wrote: Mercury seems to be in the vaccines as well, including flu shots. I don't know what the answer is, but there must be a better answer than some of the things we humans have come up with so far. I still think the natural food industry has a lot to contribute in this area. Young Living has some very interesting information in some of their latest studies. - Original Message - From: Mike McGinness [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release In regards to mercury emissions from burning coal and my prior comments: I almost forgot the really big, big BIG issue. All silver colored dental fillings are currently still made from mercury amalgam metal alloy (50% raw mercury!!!) according to my local dentist Therefore, We are probably the single largest unregulated source of mercury emissions in the environment! Thanks to the FDA! Mike McGinness ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release
Title: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release What a fantastic solution this might be during BlackFly Season AAAGGG! Thanks Kim. Jesse From: Garth Kim Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 08:38:28 -0600 To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release Greetings, We have found that real vanilla, mixed 1/2 1/2 with water and sprayed on skin is extremely effective against mesquitos here in Texas. It is possible to buy clear vanilla from Mexico so you don't stain your clothes. It also smells much nicer than bacon grease. Might help with the babe problem, as well. Bright Blessings, Kim At 08:08 AM 2/15/2006, you wrote: BTW and this is a little off topic as well but while we're on the natural remedies subject I've also found that rubbing bacon grease all over myself and my tent is very effective against mosquitos when I'm travelling in bear country. It's not a babe magnet either :( It doesn't polarise fuel either:( I guess I'm not being too helpful. :( Joe Michael Redler wrote: One remedy for heavy metals does not a babe-magnet make. :-) Mike Tom Irwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mike and All, I'm increasing my garlic intake. It seems that one of the compounds in garlic acts as a chelating agent for heavy metals. I don't know if it will catch mercury but it is supposed to be fairly effective for lead. Tom Irwin From: Mike McGinness [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] To: Sent: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:54:55 -0300 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release The mercury in vaccines and flu shots has been reduced 99.9% from what it was a few years ago (I researched this a few months ago for a recent booster shot) if you get the right supplier!! BUT, Ask to see the paper work first for the actual vial being used!! I found that out while dealing with the local County Health Clinic dispensing the Vaccines recently. Of course that begs the next question of what toxin they replaced the mercury with to keep the vaccine and flu shots sterile and presumably safe! Mike McGinness Margo wrote: Mercury seems to be in the vaccines as well, including flu shots. I don't know what the answer is, but there must be a better answer than some of the things we humans have come up with so far. I still think the natural food industry has a lot to contribute in this area. Young Living has some very interesting information in some of their latest studies. - Original Message - From: Mike McGinness [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release In regards to mercury emissions from burning coal and my prior comments: I almost forgot the really big, big BIG issue. All silver colored dental fillings are currently still made from mercury amalgam metal alloy (50% raw mercury!!!) according to my local dentist Therefore, We are probably the single largest unregulated source of mercury emissions in the environment! Thanks to the FDA! Mike McGinness ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives
Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release
You mean vanilla or vanillin?
Commercially is also available
ethylvanillin.
Remarkable idea!!!
- Original Message -
From:
Garth Kim
Travis
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:38
AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted:
Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release
Greetings,We have found that real vanilla, mixed 1/2
1/2 with water and sprayed on skin is extremely effective against mesquitos
here in Texas. It is possible to buy clear vanilla from Mexico so you
don't stain your clothes. It also smells much nicer than bacon
grease. Might help with the babe problem, as well.Bright
Blessings,KimAt 08:08 AM 2/15/2006, you wrote:
BTW and this is a little off
topic as well but while we're on the natural remedies subject I've also
found that rubbing bacon grease all over myself and my tent is very
effective against mosquitos when I'm travelling in bear country. It's not a
babe magnet either :( It doesn't polarise fuel either:( I guess
I'm not being too helpful. :(JoeMichael Redler wrote:
One remedy for heavy metals
does not a babe-magnet make.:-)MikeTom
Irwin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi Mike and All,
I'm increasing my garlic intake. It seems that one of the compounds
in garlic acts as a chelating agent for heavy metals. I don't know if it
will catch mercury but it is supposed to be fairly effective for
lead.
Tom Irwin
From: Mike McGinness [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
]
To:
Sent: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:54:55 -0300
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising:
Report Release
The mercury in vaccines and flu shots has been reduced 99.9% from
what it was a few years
ago (I researched this a few months ago for a recent booster shot)
if you get the right
supplier!! BUT, Ask to see the paper work first for the actual
vial being used!! I
found that out while dealing with the local County Health Clinic
dispensing the Vaccines
recently.
Of course that begs the next question of what toxin they replaced
the mercury with to keep
the vaccine and flu shots sterile and presumably safe!
Mike McGinness
Margo wrote:
Mercury seems to be in the vaccines as well, including flu
shots. I don't
know what the answer is, but there must be a better answer
than some of the
things we humans have come up with so far.
I still think the natural food industry has a lot to
contribute in this
area. Young Living has some very interesting information in
some of their
latest studies.
- Original Message -
From: "Mike McGinness" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising:
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In regards to mercury emissions from burning coal and my
prior comments:
I almost forgot the really big, big BIG issue. All
silver colored dental
fillings are currently still made from mercury amalgam
metal alloy (50%
raw mercury!!!) according to my local
dentist Therefore, We
are probably the single largest unregulated source of
mercury emissions
in the environment! Thanks to the FDA!
Mike McGinness
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Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release
Hi Mike and All, I'm increasing my garlic intake. It seems that one of the compounds in garlic acts as a chelating agent for heavy metals. I don't know if it will catch mercury but it is supposed to be fairly effective for lead. Tom Irwin From: Mike McGinness [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Sent: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:54:55 -0300Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report ReleaseThe mercury in vaccines and flu shots has been reduced 99.9% from what it was a few yearsago (I researched this a few months ago for a recent booster shot) if you get the rightsupplier!! BUT, Ask to see the paper work first for the actual vial being used!! Ifound that out while dealing with the local County Health Clinic dispensing the Vaccinesrecently.Of course that begs the next question of what toxin they replaced the mercury with to keepthe vaccine and flu shots sterile and presumably safe!Mike McGinnessMargo wrote: Mercury seems to be in the vaccines as well, including flu shots. I don't know what the answer is, but there must be a better answer than some of the things we humans have come up with so far. I still think the natural food industry has a lot to contribute in this area. Young Living has some very interesting information in some of their latest studies. - Original Message - From: "Mike McGinness" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release In regards to mercury emissions from burning coal and my prior comments: I almost forgot the really big, big BIG issue. All silver colored dental fillings are currently still made from mercury amalgam metal alloy (50% raw mercury!!!) according to my local dentist Therefore, We are probably the single largest unregulated source of mercury emissions in the environment! Thanks to the FDA! Mike McGinness Michael Redler wrote: Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 16:26:10 -0500 Subject: [renewable-energy] Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release Fellow enviros, For almost two years, we've been gathering hair samples from Greenpeace supporters across the country. On February 8, we released the results of our nationwide mercury study, http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/news/mercury-report and the results are alarming. Over *one in five* women of childbearing age tested above the limit the Environmental Protection Agency set as safe. The even more chilling news is that earlier this year in his State of the Union speechhttp://members.greenpeace.org/action/start.php?action_id=80ref_source=listsmercury to Congress, President Bush called for more energy investment in dirty fossil fuels, including coal, the largest source of mercury pollution in the country. Tell Congress that America doesn't need more coal and mercuryhttp://members.greenpeace.org/action/start.php?action_id=80ref_source=listsmercury to be spewed into our environment, our waterways and our bodies. A healthy, sustainable energy futures begins with increased investments in clean, renewable energy, not dirty fossil fuels. Best, Nick Greenpeace www.greenpeaceusa.org[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] == THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING IN THE RENEWABLE ENERGY LIST. -- . Please feel free to send your input to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Join the list by sending a blank e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. To view previous messages from the list, subscribe to a daily digest of the list, or stop receiving the list by e-mail (and read it on the Web), go to http://www.yahoogroups.com/list/renewable-energy . . This e-mail discussion list is managed by the American Wind Energy Association: http://www.awea.org -- Association: http://www.awea.org -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainabl
Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release
One remedy for heavy metals does not a babe-magnet make. :-)Mike Tom Irwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mike and All,I'm increasing my garlic intake. It seems that one of the compounds in garlic acts as a chelating agent for heavy metals. I don't know if it will catch mercury but it is supposed to be fairly effective for lead.Tom IrwinFrom: Mike McGinness [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Sent: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:54:55 -0300Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report ReleaseThe mercury in vaccines and flu shots has been reduced 99.9% from what it was a few yearsago (I researched this a few months ago for a recent booster shot) if you get the rightsupplier!! BUT, Ask to see the paper work first for the actual vial being used!! Ifound that out while dealing with the local County Health Clinic dispensing the Vaccinesrecently.Of course that begs the next question of what toxin they replaced the mercury with to keepthe vaccine and flu shots sterile and presumably safe!Mike McGinnessMargo wrote: Mercury seems to be in the vaccines as well, including flu shots. I don't know what the answer is, but there must be a better answer than some of the things we humans have come up with so far. I still think the natural food industry has a lot to contribute in this area. Young Living has some very interesting information in some of their latest studies. - Original Message - From: "Mike McGinness" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release In regards to mercury emissions from burning coal and my prior comments: I almost forgot the really big, big BIG issue. All silver colored dental fillings are currently still made from mercury amalgam metal alloy (50% raw mercury!!!) according to my local dentist Therefore, We are probably the single largest unregulated source of mercury emissions in the environment! Thanks to the FDA! Mike McGinness ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release
It seems that one of the compounds in garlic acts as a chelating agent for heavy metals. Just remember that to be effective garlic has to be eaten fresh and raw, garlic capsules don't work. Chris Wessex Ferret Club www.wessexferretclub.co.uk ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release
I am so sorry to say that nothing you can eat will stop the heavy metals contamination if they are in your food or water. The reason why heavy metals content is limited in water and/or food to 20 ppm (parts per million)is the fact that Mercury or Lead (also others) accumulate in the organism and precipitate in the body tissues promoting cancer growth. In fact it is VERY dangerousto believe that are defended by such foods. - Original Message - From: Tom Irwin To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release Hi Mike and All, I'm increasing my garlic intake. It seems that one of the compounds in garlic acts as a chelating agent for heavy metals. I don't know if it will catch mercury but it is supposed to be fairly effective for lead. Tom Irwin From: Mike McGinness [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Sent: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:54:55 -0300Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report ReleaseThe mercury in vaccines and flu shots has been reduced 99.9% from what it was a few yearsago (I researched this a few months ago for a recent booster shot) if you get the rightsupplier!! BUT, Ask to see the paper work first for the actual vial being used!! Ifound that out while dealing with the local County Health Clinic dispensing the Vaccinesrecently.Of course that begs the next question of what toxin they replaced the mercury with to keepthe vaccine and flu shots sterile and presumably safe!Mike McGinnessMargo wrote: Mercury seems to be in the vaccines as well, including flu shots. I don't know what the answer is, but there must be a better answer than some of the things we humans have come up with so far. I still think the natural food industry has a lot to contribute in this area. Young Living has some very interesting information in some of their latest studies. - Original Message - From: "Mike McGinness" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release In regards to mercury emissions from burning coal and my prior comments: I almost forgot the really big, big BIG issue. All silver colored dental fillings are currently still made from mercury amalgam metal alloy (50% raw mercury!!!) according to my local dentist Therefore, We are probably the single largest unregulated source of mercury emissions in the environment! Thanks to the FDA! Mike McGinness Michael Redler wrote: Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 16:26:10 -0500 Subject: [renewable-energy] Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release Fellow enviros, For almost two years, we've been gathering hair samples from Greenpeace supporters across the country. On February 8, we released the results of our nationwide mercury study, http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/news/mercury-report and the results are alarming. Over *one in five* women of childbearing age tested above the limit the Environmental Protection Agency set as safe. The even more chilling news is that earlier this year in his State of the Union speechhttp://members.greenpeace.org/action/start.php?action_id=80ref_source=listsmercury to Congress, President Bush called for more energy investment in dirty fossil fuels, including coal, the largest source of mercury pollution in the country. Tell Congress that America doesn't need more coal and mercuryhttp://members.greenpeace.org/action/start.php?action_id=80ref_source=listsmercury to be spewed into our environment, our waterways and our bodies. A healthy, sustainable energy futures begins with increased investments in clean, renewable energy, not dirty fossil fuels. Best, Nick Greenpeace www.greenpeaceusa.org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] == THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING IN THE RENEWABLE ENERGY LIST. -- . Please feel free to send your input to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Join the list by sending a blank e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. To view previous messages from the list, subscribe to a daily digest of the list, or stop receiving the list by e-mail (and read it on the Web), go to http://www.yahoogroups.com/list/renewable-energy . . This e-mail discussion list is managed by the American W
Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release
Sorry if I sound like I am knocking Greenpeace. I am not. I live in a city (Houston, Texas) where we can't even trust the local police crime lab reports! Recently investigations here have turned up falsified data that sent people to DEATH ROW based on lies from the police department lab personnel (faked DNA test results for instance along with extremely poor QA/QC lab policies and procedures) combined with perjury by the officers in the case simply to close a case or because they were sure they had the guilty person, so they made up the evidence. As Eddie Murphy says so eloquently in some of his movies (Beverly Hills Cop) TRUST ME. I see bad lab data and lab procedures regularly in environmental test labs. Therefore, I question all facts given to me as lab test data and so called FACTS and I will for the rest of my life, unless it is run by 3 independent labs with double blinds, including sample matrix tests for interferences such as sample spikes and sample dilutions to verify the accuracy of the tests with a paper trail to ASTM standards, proper sample chain of custody paper work by reputable, unbiased and knowledgeable lab personnel (this includes sampling by unbiased personnel) and with proper sample preservation between the sample point and the lab test. Even then a drug test can show positive for a non drug user if some slips a drug into their drink. In the case of the original post on this topic I have seen zero data, no numbers, so far to back up any of the original poster's claims. Furthermore there was no attempt to prove the link between the individuals with mercury in their hair who were tested and the purported source mercury emissions from burning coal. Both are large geographical issues in nature and no attempt was made to connect the two geographically. I was trying to point out that there are other huge sources of mercury in our environment including the customary practice of throwing fluorescent light bulbs (and breaking them) with huge amounts of mercury into leaky trash containers!!! And that 50% of the metal alloy in all US dental fillings is still mercury!!! perhaps the mercury in the hair samples is from leaching dental filings!! By the way has anyone bothered to check mercury emissions (air, ground water and storm water runoff) from the local grave yards to see if the dental filings there aren't making their way back into the environment!? I am not disputing the toxicity or danger of mercury!! It is real and well documented. I am just trying to widen the focus as to possible sources and to force others to question so called facts and insist on real hard data with details about the reliability of the data. And thanks for the links in your posting, they have lot of information I did not yet have in my archive on the topic of mercury toxicity. Mike McGinness Michael Redler wrote: Mike McGinness wrote: Second I would not put a lot of faith in such a sampling procedure 'we've been gathering hair samples from Greenpeace supporters across the country'. I can't speak for anyone else in the group but, in order to consider your position, I need you to back this statement with something, anything - even if it's because I don't like 'em. If your questioning the test, that's fine - just say so. However, It looks as though you feel that having Greenpeace activists in you sample can skew the results. Even if you have overzealous activists dipping their hair in mercury (assuming that even works), the data would show outliers, probably have a high standard deviation and would get the attention of critics. Since there is an abundance of data that supports how damaging mercury is to all life, research to find reliable test methods is certainly worth while. There is a growing consensus that hair has potential as a viable test material and that the biggest concern has less to do with the hair and more to do with standardization in the laboratory and whether your looking for long or short term exposure. I say this with indifference to the EPA's participation. I'm more interested in consensus in the scientific community - especially with the recent scandals that have put the EPA's reliability into question. http://www.traceelements.com/writtenresponse.html http://www.thorne.com/pdf/journal/6-5/trace_element_analysis.pdf http://www.intox.org/databank/documents/supplem/supp/ehc223.htm That said, I would agree that mercury in coal is a problem, but it is one that can be solved, by removing it before it is burned or exhausted. Mercury in coal is not the problem. Mercury in coal is one of the many reasons why coal is the problem. Collecting mercury before you burn the coal doesn't change the fact that it's there. It only changes the destination and the variables related to how one should get rid of it. Re: noise - Thank you. YES, I want to make noise about all the mercury that finds it's way into consumer, commercial, industrial and
Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release
The mercury in vaccines and flu shots has been reduced 99.9% from what it was a few years ago (I researched this a few months ago for a recent booster shot) if you get the right supplier!! BUT, Ask to see the paper work first for the actual vial being used!! I found that out while dealing with the local County Health Clinic dispensing the Vaccines recently. Of course that begs the next question of what toxin they replaced the mercury with to keep the vaccine and flu shots sterile and presumably safe! Mike McGinness Margo wrote: Mercury seems to be in the vaccines as well, including flu shots. I don't know what the answer is, but there must be a better answer than some of the things we humans have come up with so far. I still think the natural food industry has a lot to contribute in this area. Young Living has some very interesting information in some of their latest studies. - Original Message - From: Mike McGinness [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release In regards to mercury emissions from burning coal and my prior comments: I almost forgot the really big, big BIG issue. All silver colored dental fillings are currently still made from mercury amalgam metal alloy (50% raw mercury!!!) according to my local dentist Therefore, We are probably the single largest unregulated source of mercury emissions in the environment! Thanks to the FDA! Mike McGinness Michael Redler wrote: Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 16:26:10 -0500 Subject: [renewable-energy] Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release Fellow enviros, For almost two years, we've been gathering hair samples from Greenpeace supporters across the country. On February 8, we released the results of our nationwide mercury study, http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/news/mercury-report and the results are alarming. Over *one in five* women of childbearing age tested above the limit the Environmental Protection Agency set as safe. The even more chilling news is that earlier this year in his State of the Union speech http://members.greenpeace.org/action/start.php?action_id=80ref_source=listsmercury to Congress, President Bush called for more energy investment in dirty fossil fuels, including coal, the largest source of mercury pollution in the country. Tell Congress that America doesn't need more coal and mercury http://members.greenpeace.org/action/start.php?action_id=80ref_source=listsmercury to be spewed into our environment, our waterways and our bodies. A healthy, sustainable energy futures begins with increased investments in clean, renewable energy, not dirty fossil fuels. Best, Nick Greenpeace www.greenpeaceusa.org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] == THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING IN THE RENEWABLE ENERGY LIST. -- . Please feel free to send your input to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Join the list by sending a blank e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. To view previous messages from the list, subscribe to a daily digest of the list, or stop receiving the list by e-mail (and read it on the Web), go to http://www.yahoogroups.com/list/renewable-energy . . This e-mail discussion list is managed by the American Wind Energy Association: http://www.awea.org -- Association: http://www.awea.org -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel
Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release
Hello Mike Who are you replying to, please? I don't think we know who Margo is. You seem to be doing a lot of cross-posting to multiple addresses. That's okay, just please make it clear which is which and who is who. Thankyou. Keith Addison Journey to Forever KYOTO Pref., Japan http://journeytoforever.org/ Biofuel list owner The mercury in vaccines and flu shots has been reduced 99.9% from what it was a few years ago (I researched this a few months ago for a recent booster shot) if you get the right supplier!! BUT, Ask to see the paper work first for the actual vial being used!! I found that out while dealing with the local County Health Clinic dispensing the Vaccines recently. Of course that begs the next question of what toxin they replaced the mercury with to keep the vaccine and flu shots sterile and presumably safe! Mike McGinness Margo wrote: Mercury seems to be in the vaccines as well, including flu shots. I don't know what the answer is, but there must be a better answer than some of the things we humans have come up with so far. I still think the natural food industry has a lot to contribute in this area. Young Living has some very interesting information in some of their latest studies. - Original Message - From: Mike McGinness [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release In regards to mercury emissions from burning coal and my prior comments: I almost forgot the really big, big BIG issue. All silver colored dental fillings are currently still made from mercury amalgam metal alloy (50% raw mercury!!!) according to my local dentist Therefore, We are probably the single largest unregulated source of mercury emissions in the environment! Thanks to the FDA! Mike McGinness Michael Redler wrote: Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 16:26:10 -0500 Subject: [renewable-energy] Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release Fellow enviros, For almost two years, we've been gathering hair samples from Greenpeace supporters across the country. On February 8, we released the results of our nationwide mercury study, http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/news/mercury-report and the results are alarming. Over *one in five* women of childbearing age tested above the limit the Environmental Protection Agency set as safe. The even more chilling news is that earlier this year in his State of the Union speech http://members.greenpeace.org/action/start.php?action_id=80ref_source =listsmercury to Congress, President Bush called for more energy investment in dirty fossil fuels, including coal, the largest source of mercury pollution in the country. Tell Congress that America doesn't need more coal and mercury http://members.greenpeace.org/action/start.php?action_id=80ref_source =listsmercury to be spewed into our environment, our waterways and our bodies. A healthy, sustainable energy futures begins with increased investments in clean, renewable energy, not dirty fossil fuels. Best, Nick Greenpeace www.greenpeaceusa.org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] == THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING IN THE RENEWABLE ENERGY LIST. -- . Please feel free to send your input to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Join the list by sending a blank e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. To view previous messages from the list, subscribe to a daily digest of the list, or stop receiving the list by e-mail (and read it on the Web), go to http://www.yahoogroups.com/list/renewable-energy . . This e-mail discussion list is managed by the American Wind Energy Association: http://www.awea.org -- Association: http://www.awea.org -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists. org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives
Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release
Hi Hakan When we are at it, why not talk about led also, considering the waste amount of led that we are polluting our food with. I bet it's worse than you think too. The Full Costs Of The Car http://www.flora.org/afo/cc1.html Dirty from cradle to grave http://www.flora.org/afo/cc1.html#II How about all this then? A Seattle Times investigation (July 3 - 4, 1997) found that, across the US, industrial wastes laden with heavy metals and other dangerous materials are being used in fertilizers and spread over farmland. The process, which is legal, saves dirty industries the high costs of disposing of hazardous wastes. Between 1990 and 1995, 600 companies from 44 different states sent 270 million pounds of toxic waste to farms and fertilizer companies across the country. What's in it? - it included 6.2 million pounds of lead compounds were spread on fields, 1.3 million pounds of chromium compounds, 233,000 pounds of cadmium compounds, 212,000 pounds of nickel compounds, 16,000 pounds of mercury compounds and 223 pounds of arsenic compounds. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/news/special/fear_fields.html Seattle Times: Fear in the Fields by Duff Wilson (needs subscription for access) Fear in the fields Part I http://www.crcwater.org/issues/fertwaste7397.html Fear in the fields Part II http://www.crcwater.org/issues/fertwaste7497.html http://www.looksmartclassical.com/p/articles/mi_m1132/is_7_55/ai_111503533 Monthly Review: Poisoning our food - Fateful Harvest: The True Story of a Small Town, a Global Industry, and a Toxic Secret, by Duff Wilson - Book Review The recycling of hazardous industrial wastes into fertilizers introduces several dozen toxic metals and chemicals into the nation's farm, lawn and garden soils, including such well-known toxic substances as lead and mercury. Many crops and plants extract these toxic metals from the soil, increasing the chance of impacts on human health as crops and plants enter the food supply chain. This report documents the highly toxic substances found by testing fertilizers... http://pirg.org/toxics/reports/wastelands/index.html Waste Lands: The Threat Of Toxic Fertilizer Under the guise of 'recycling,' millions of pounds of toxic waste are shipped each year from polluting industries to fertilizer manufacturers and farmers, who used toxic waste laden with dioxin, lead, mercury and other hazardous chemicals as raw material for fertilizers applied to U.S. farmland... http://www.ewg.org/reports/factoryfarming/fertpress.html EWG Report || Factory Farming Then there's sewage sludge... And the brilliant official plan to recycle low-level radioactive waste into common household appliances and consumer durables (or I suppose what's left of it anyway after you've shot the rest at Iraqis). This by using l it in fuel, that then spreading it over the vegetables etc. that we eat. http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=2320s=kitman The Nation | Article | The Secret History of Lead | Jamie Lincoln Kitman On March 20, 2000 The Nation featured a special magazine-length article detailing the fascinating and clandestine history of lead. How did lead get into gasoline in the first place? And why is leaded gas still being sold in the Third World, Eastern Europe and elsewhere? Recently uncovered documents, a new skein of academic research and a careful reading of that long-ago period's historical record, as well as dozens of interviews, tell the true story of leaded gasoline. The leaded gas adventurers have profitably polluted the world on a grand scale and, in the process, have provided a model for the asbestos, tobacco, pesticide and nuclear power industries. Don't miss this shocking expose by automative journalist Jamie Kitman, who shows how car manufacturers have wildly exaggerated the benefits of leaded gasoline while knowingly downplaying its dangers. http://www.radford.edu/~wkovarik/papers/fuel.html Henry Ford, Charles Kettering and The Fuel of the Future Both a really good read. Ho-hum. Best Keith A good argument for biofuel. Both led and mercury are serious pollution problems, as a consequence of exhaust from the fuel use. Hakan At 05:50 12/02/2006, you wrote: Mike McGinness wrote: Second I would not put a lot of faith in such a sampling procedure 'we've been gathering hair samples from Greenpeace supporters across the country'. I can't speak for anyone else in the group but, in order to consider your position, I need you to back this statement with something, anything - even if it's because I don't like 'em. If your questioning the test, that's fine - just say so. However, It looks as though you feel that having Greenpeace activists in you sample can skew the results. Even if you have overzealous activists dipping their hair in mercury (assuming that even works), the data would show outliers, probably have a high standard deviation and would get the attention of critics. Since there is an abundance
Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release
Counter comments. (but these are not neccessarily all the views of the author) First, I am not aware of an EPA limit for mercury in Human hair. If there is one, what is it and where is it? Second I would not put a lot of faith in such a sampling procedure we've been gathering hair samples from Greenpeace supporters across the country. That said, I would agree that mercury in coal is a problem, but it is one that can be solved, by removing it before it is burned or exhausted. The problem is getting the law passed and enforced to get it removed, not in outlawing its (coal's) use. Finally, if you want to make noise about mercury look at its use in pharmaceutical vaccines for instance to kill pathogens and to make the Vaccines SAFE and the blind eye the FDA puts on the high mercury content in medicine and sea foods, and its continued presence in many home products like thermostats, trunk light switches on automobiles not to mention energy efficient light bulbs we are all switching to!!! Fluorescent bulbs contain mercury!!... Check out the links on this google search for more details. http://www.greenfacts.org/mercury/l-3/mercury-4.htm http://www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=ie=ISO-8859-1q=mercury+current+uses+products+containingbtnG=Search Finally, an associate of mine once claimed that we were soon going to need to declare all human grave yards to be hazardous waste dumps needing superfund cleanup funds due to all the toxins in our bodies, especially toxic cancer pharmaceutical medicines from the cancer patients Your mercury study may be further proof he was right! Mike McGinness Michael Redler wrote: Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 16:26:10 -0500 Subject: [renewable-energy] Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release Fellow enviros, For almost two years, we've been gathering hair samples from Greenpeace supporters across the country. On February 8, we released the results of our nationwide mercury study, http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/news/mercury-report and the results are alarming. Over *one in five* women of childbearing age tested above the limit the Environmental Protection Agency set as safe. The even more chilling news is that earlier this year in his State of the Union speech http://members.greenpeace.org/action/start.php?action_id=80ref_source=listsmercury to Congress, President Bush called for more energy investment in dirty fossil fuels, including coal, the largest source of mercury pollution in the country. Tell Congress that America doesn't need more coal and mercury http://members.greenpeace.org/action/start.php?action_id=80ref_source=listsmercury to be spewed into our environment, our waterways and our bodies. A healthy, sustainable energy futures begins with increased investments in clean, renewable energy, not dirty fossil fuels. Best, Nick Greenpeace www.greenpeaceusa.org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] == THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING IN THE RENEWABLE ENERGY LIST. -- . Please feel free to send your input to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Join the list by sending a blank e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. To view previous messages from the list, subscribe to a daily digest of the list, or stop receiving the list by e-mail (and read it on the Web), go to http://www.yahoogroups.com/list/renewable-energy . . This e-mail discussion list is managed by the American Wind Energy Association: http://www.awea.org -- Association: http://www.awea.org -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release
In regards to mercury emissions from burning coal and my prior comments: I almost forgot the really big, big BIG issue. All silver colored dental fillings are currently still made from mercury amalgam metal alloy (50% raw mercury!!!) according to my local dentist Therefore, We are probably the single largest unregulated source of mercury emissions in the environment! Thanks to the FDA! Mike McGinness Michael Redler wrote: Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 16:26:10 -0500 Subject: [renewable-energy] Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release Fellow enviros, For almost two years, we've been gathering hair samples from Greenpeace supporters across the country. On February 8, we released the results of our nationwide mercury study, http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/news/mercury-report and the results are alarming. Over *one in five* women of childbearing age tested above the limit the Environmental Protection Agency set as safe. The even more chilling news is that earlier this year in his State of the Union speech http://members.greenpeace.org/action/start.php?action_id=80ref_source=listsmercury to Congress, President Bush called for more energy investment in dirty fossil fuels, including coal, the largest source of mercury pollution in the country. Tell Congress that America doesn't need more coal and mercury http://members.greenpeace.org/action/start.php?action_id=80ref_source=listsmercury to be spewed into our environment, our waterways and our bodies. A healthy, sustainable energy futures begins with increased investments in clean, renewable energy, not dirty fossil fuels. Best, Nick Greenpeace www.greenpeaceusa.org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] == THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING IN THE RENEWABLE ENERGY LIST. -- . Please feel free to send your input to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Join the list by sending a blank e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. To view previous messages from the list, subscribe to a daily digest of the list, or stop receiving the list by e-mail (and read it on the Web), go to http://www.yahoogroups.com/list/renewable-energy . . This e-mail discussion list is managed by the American Wind Energy Association: http://www.awea.org -- Association: http://www.awea.org -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release
Mike McGinness wrote:"Second I would not put a lot of faith in such a sampling procedure 'we've been gathering hair samples from Greenpeace supporters across the country'".I can't speak for anyone else in the group but, in order toconsider your position, I need youto back this statement with something, anything - even if it's "because I don't like 'em". If your questioning the test, that's fine - just say so. However, It looks as though you feel that havingGreenpeace activistsin you sample can skew theresults. Even if you have overzealous activists dipping their hair in mercury (assuming that even works), the data would show outliers, probably have a high standard deviation and would get the attention of critics.Since there is an abundance of data that supports how damaging mercuryis to all life, research to findreliable test methods is certainly worth while. There is a growing consensus that hair has potential as aviable test material and that the biggest concern has less to do with the hair and more to do with standardization in the laboratory and whether your looking for long or short term exposure. I say this with indifference to the EPA's participation. I'm more interested in consensus in the scientific community - especially with the recent scandals that have put the EPA's reliability into question.http://www.traceelements.com/writtenresponse.htmlhttp://www.thorne.com/pdf/journal/6-5/trace_element_analysis.pdfhttp://www.intox.org/databank/documents/supplem/supp/ehc223.htm"That said, I would agree that mercury in coal is a problem, but it is one that can be solved, by removing it before it is burned or exhausted."Mercury in coal is notthe problem. Mercury in coal is one of the many reasons why coal is the problem. Collectingmercury before you burn the coal doesn't change the fact that it's there. It only changes the destination and the variables related to how one should get rid of it.Re: "noise" - Thank you. YES, I want to make noise about all the mercury that finds it's way into consumer, commercial, industrial and medical products in addition to power plant emissions and have oversight as to their necessity. Energy efficient light bulbs are not exempt either. Mike Mike McGinness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Counter comments. (but these are not neccessarily all the views of theauthor)First, I am not aware of an EPA limit for mercury in Human hair. Ifthere is one, what is it and where is it? Second I would not put a lotof faith in such a sampling procedure "we've been gathering hair samplesfrom Greenpeace supporters across the country".That said, I would agree that mercury in coal is a problem, but it isone that can be solved, by removing it before it is burned or exhausted.The problem is getting the law passed and enforced to get it removed,not in outlawing its (coal's) use.Finally, if you want to make noise about mercury look at its use inpharmaceutical vaccines for instance to kill pathogens and to "make theVaccines SAFE" and the blind eye the FDA puts on the high mercurycontent in medicine and sea foods, and its continued presence in manyhome products like thermostats, trunk light switches on automobiles notto mention energy efficient light bulbs we are all switching to!!!Fluorescent bulbs contain mercury!!...Check out the links on this google search for more details.http://www.greenfacts.org/mercury/l-3/mercury-4.htmhttp://www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=ie=ISO-8859-1q=mercury+current+uses+products+containingbtnG=SearchFinally, an associate of mine once claimed that we were soon going toneed to declare all human grave yards to be hazardous waste dumpsneeding superfund cleanup funds due to all the toxins in our bodies,especially toxic cancer pharmaceutical medicines from the cancerpatients Your mercury study may be further proof he was right!Mike McGinness___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release
When we are at it, why not talk about led also, considering the waste amount of led that we are polluting our food with. This by using l it in fuel, that then spreading it over the vegetables etc. that we eat. A good argument for biofuel. Both led and mercury are serious pollution problems, as a consequence of exhaust from the fuel use. Hakan At 05:50 12/02/2006, you wrote: Mike McGinness wrote: Second I would not put a lot of faith in such a sampling procedure 'we've been gathering hair samples from Greenpeace supporters across the country'. I can't speak for anyone else in the group but, in order to consider your position, I need you to back this statement with something, anything - even if it's because I don't like 'em. If your questioning the test, that's fine - just say so. However, It looks as though you feel that having Greenpeace activists in you sample can skew the results. Even if you have overzealous activists dipping their hair in mercury (assuming that even works), the data would show outliers, probably have a high standard deviation and would get the attention of critics. Since there is an abundance of data that supports how damaging mercury is to all life, research to find reliable te! st methods is certainly worth while. There is a growing consensus that hair has potential as a viable test material and that the biggest concern has less to do with the hair and more to do with standardization in the laboratory and whether your looking for long or short term exposure. I say this with indifference to the EPA's participation. I'm more interested in consensus in the scientific community - especially with the recent scandals that have put the EPA's reliability into question. http://www.traceelements.com/writtenresponse.htmlhttp://www.traceelements.com/writtenresponse.html http://www.thorne.com/pdf/journal/6-5/trace_element_analysis.pdf http://www.intox.org/databank/documents/supplem/supp/ehc223.htmhttp://www.intox.org/databank/documents/supplem/supp/ehc223.htm That said, I would agree that mercury in coal is a problem, but it is one that can be solved, by removing it before it is burned or exhausted. Mercury in coal is not the problem. Mercury in coal is one of the many reasons why coal is the problem. Collecting mercury before you burn the coal doesn't change the fact that it's there. It only changes the destination and the variables related to how one should get rid of it. Re: noise - Thank you. YES, I want to make noise about all the mercury that finds it's way into consumer, commercial, industrial and medical products in addition to power plant emissions and have oversight as to their necessity. Energy efficient light bulbs are not exempt either. Mike Mike McGinness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Counter comments. (but these are not neccessarily all the views of the author) First, I am not aware of an EPA limit for mercury in Human hair. If there is one, what is it and where is it? Second I would not put a lot of faith in such a sampling procedure we've been gathering hair samples from Greenpeace supporters across the country. That said, I would agree that mercury in coal is a problem, but it is one that can be solved, by removing it before it is burned or exhausted. The problem is getting the law passed and enforced to get it removed, not in outlawing its (coal's) use. Finally, if you want to make noise about mercury look at its use in pharmaceutical vaccines for instance to kill pathogens and to m! ake the Vaccines SAFE and the blind eye the FDA puts on the high mercury content in medicine and sea foods, and its continued presence in many home products like thermostats, trunk light switches on automobiles not to mention energy efficient light bulbs we are all switching to!!! Fluorescent bulbs contain mercury!!... Check out the links on this google search for more details. http://www.greenfacts.org/mercury/l-3/mercury-4.htm http://www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=ie=ISO-8859-1q=mercury+current+uses+products+containingbtnG=Search Finally, an associate of mine once claimed that we were soon going to need to declare all human grave yards to be hazardous waste dumps needing superfund cleanup funds due to all the toxins in our bodies, especially toxic cancer pharmaceutical medicines from the cancer patients Your mercury study may be further proof he was right! Mike McGinness ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at
