Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Disappearing Antiwar Protests
The mainstream media (as we've discussed before) is anything but independent journalism. However, the Internet is one of a few and very powerful modes of communication which is available to people who seewhat's occurring within that media and look elsewhere. It is for this reason that anti-war protests are gaining strength. Even if you only hear about some vague reference to aprotest in Washington DC on September 24th (for example), there are ways of getting details on it that the MS media on radio and television regularly suppress.I get emails that report regular peacefuland successful anti-war rallies and campus anti-recruitment activities. Despite following campus rules,there have been numerous reports of police violence and suppression ofconstitutional rights related to free speech and public assemblies. The protesters, who consider themselves conscientious citizens, are firm in their belief that the country has been taken over by aruling class, interested in the accumulation of power and the further construction of a failing empire.In response, theyhave not backed downat all. So by saying that antiwar protests are "disappearing", I hope it is meant as a description of the coverage in the major television and radio networks and not the activities themselves.MikeAlan Petrillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott Brown wrote: Just another point of view. It may be that Bush is in the hands of the media and the people who control the media rather than they are in his control. Does "puppet on string" seem applicable ???Why not? After all, it is they who put him in power.AP___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Disappearing Antiwar Protests
Scott Brown wrote: Just another point of view. It may be that Bush is in the hands of the media and the people who control the media rather than they are in his control. Does puppet on string seem applicable ??? Why not? After all, it is they who put him in power. AP ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Disappearing Antiwar Protests
This is nothing new.I attended 3 rallies in DC back before we invaded Iraq (we had already been bombing the S**T out of them) Upon returnign home, we saw there was little or no coverage, and even if there was, there were reports of several thousand marchers when if fact the true amount was several hundred thousand. The mainstream media is truly in the hands of the Bush regime, and nobody or no entity is allowed to criticize him, and those that do suffer miserably or get stifled by a biased press. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 1:22 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Fwd: Disappearing Antiwar Protests http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2677 Disappearing Antiwar Protests Media shrug off mass movement against war 9/27/05 Hundreds of thousands of Americans around the country protested the Iraq War on the weekend of September 24-25, with the largest demonstration bringing between 100,000 and 300,000 to Washington, D.C. on Saturday. But if you relied on television for your news, you'd hardly know the protests happened at all. According to the Nexis news database, the only mention on the network newscasts that Saturday came on the NBC Nightly News, where the massive march received all of 87 words. (ABC World News Tonight transcripts were not available for September 24, possibly due to pre-emption by college football.) Cable coverage wasn't much better. CNN, for example, made only passing references to the weekend protests. CNN anchor Aaron Brown offered an interesting explanation (9/24/05): There was a huge 100,000 people in Washington protesting the war in Iraq today, and I sometimes today feel like I've heard from all 100,000 upset that they did not get any coverage, and it's true they didn't get any coverage. Many of them see conspiracy. I assure you there is none, but it's just the national story today and the national conversation today is the hurricane that put millions and millions of people at risk, and it's just kind of an accident of bad timing, and I know that won't satisfy anyone but that's the truth of it. To hear Brown tell it, a 24-hour cable news channel is somehow unable to cover more than one story at a time-- and the national conversation is something that CNN just listens in on, rather than helping to determine through its coverage choices. The following day (9/25/05), the network's Sunday morning shows had an opportunity to at least reflect on the significance of the anti-war movement. With a panel consisting of three New York Times columnists, Tim Russert mentioned the march briefly in one question to Maureen Dowd-- which ended up being about how the antiwar movement might affect Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential chances. On ABC's This Week, host George Stephanopoulos observed, We've seen polls across the board suggesting that we're bogged down now in Iraq and now you have this growing protest movement. Do you believe that we're reaching a tipping point in public opinion? That question was put to pro-war Republican Sen. John McCain, who responded by inaccurately claiming: Most polls I see, that most Americans believe still that we have to stay the course I certainly understand the dissatisfaction of the American people but I think most of them still want to stay the course and we have to. A recent CBS/New York Times poll (9/9-13/05) found 52 percent support for leaving Iraq as soon as possible. A similar Gallup poll (9/16-18) found that 33 percent of the public want some troops withdrawn, with another 30 percent wanting all the troops withdrawn. Only 34 percent wanted to maintain or increase troop levels--positions that could be described as wanting to stay the course. Stephanopoulos, however, failed to challenge McCain's false claim. (An L.A. Times recap of the protests--9/25/05-- included a misleading reference to the Gallup poll, reporting that while the war is seen as a mistake by 59 percent of respondents, There remains, however, widespread disagreement about the best solution. The same poll showed that 30 percent of Americans favored a total troop withdrawal, though 26 percent favored maintaining the current level. By leaving out the 33 percent of those polled who wanted to decrease troop numbers, the paper gave a misleading impression of closely divided opinion.) On Fox News Sunday (9/25/05), panelist Juan Williams was rebuked by his colleagues when he noted that public opinion had turned in favor of pulling out of Iraq. Fellow Fox panelist and NPR reporter Mara Liasson responded, Oh, I don't think that's true, a sentiment echoed by Fox panelist Brit Hume. When Williams brought up the Saudi foreign minister's statement that foreign troops were not helping to stabilize Iraq, panelist William Kristol retorted: So now the American left is with the House of Saud. (That was, if anything, a more complimentary
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Disappearing Antiwar Protests
So we need to organize local protests too. Busyditch wrote: This is nothing new.I attended 3 rallies in DC back before we invaded Iraq (we had already been bombing the S**T out of them) Upon returnign home, we saw there was little or no coverage, and even if there was, there were reports of several thousand marchers when if fact the true amount was several hundred thousand. The mainstream media is truly in the hands of the Bush regime, and nobody or no entity is allowed to criticize him, and those that do suffer miserably or get stifled by a biased press. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 1:22 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Fwd: Disappearing Antiwar Protests http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2677 Disappearing Antiwar Protests Media shrug off mass movement against war 9/27/05 Hundreds of thousands of Americans around the country protested the Iraq War on the weekend of September 24-25, with the largest demonstration bringing between 100,000 and 300,000 to Washington, D.C. on Saturday. But if you relied on television for your news, you'd hardly know the protests happened at all. According to the Nexis news database, the only mention on the network newscasts that Saturday came on the NBC Nightly News, where the massive march received all of 87 words. (ABC World News Tonight transcripts were not available for September 24, possibly due to pre-emption by college football.) Cable coverage wasn't much better. CNN, for example, made only passing references to the weekend protests. CNN anchor Aaron Brown offered an interesting explanation (9/24/05): There was a huge 100,000 people in Washington protesting the war in Iraq today, and I sometimes today feel like I've heard from all 100,000 upset that they did not get any coverage, and it's true they didn't get any coverage. Many of them see conspiracy. I assure you there is none, but it's just the national story today and the national conversation today is the hurricane that put millions and millions of people at risk, and it's just kind of an accident of bad timing, and I know that won't satisfy anyone but that's the truth of it. To hear Brown tell it, a 24-hour cable news channel is somehow unable to cover more than one story at a time-- and the national conversation is something that CNN just listens in on, rather than helping to determine through its coverage choices. The following day (9/25/05), the network's Sunday morning shows had an opportunity to at least reflect on the significance of the anti-war movement. With a panel consisting of three New York Times columnists, Tim Russert mentioned the march briefly in one question to Maureen Dowd-- which ended up being about how the antiwar movement might affect Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential chances. On ABC's This Week, host George Stephanopoulos observed, We've seen polls across the board suggesting that we're bogged down now in Iraq and now you have this growing protest movement. Do you believe that we're reaching a tipping point in public opinion? That question was put to pro-war Republican Sen. John McCain, who responded by inaccurately claiming: Most polls I see, that most Americans believe still that we have to stay the course I certainly understand the dissatisfaction of the American people but I think most of them still want to stay the course and we have to. A recent CBS/New York Times poll (9/9-13/05) found 52 percent support for leaving Iraq as soon as possible. A similar Gallup poll (9/16-18) found that 33 percent of the public want some troops withdrawn, with another 30 percent wanting all the troops withdrawn. Only 34 percent wanted to maintain or increase troop levels--positions that could be described as wanting to stay the course. Stephanopoulos, however, failed to challenge McCain's false claim. (An L.A. Times recap of the protests--9/25/05-- included a misleading reference to the Gallup poll, reporting that while the war is seen as a mistake by 59 percent of respondents, There remains, however, widespread disagreement about the best solution. The same poll showed that 30 percent of Americans favored a total troop withdrawal, though 26 percent favored maintaining the current level. By leaving out the 33 percent of those polled who wanted to decrease troop numbers, the paper gave a misleading impression of closely divided opinion.) On Fox News Sunday (9/25/05), panelist Juan Williams was rebuked by his colleagues when he noted that public opinion had turned in favor of pulling out of Iraq. Fellow Fox panelist and NPR reporter Mara Liasson responded, Oh, I don't think that's true, a sentiment echoed by Fox panelist Brit Hume. When Williams brought up the Saudi foreign minister's statement that foreign troops were not helping to stabilize Iraq, panelist William Kristol retorted: So now the American left is with the House of Saud. (That was, if anything, a more complimentary
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Disappearing Antiwar Protests
Just another point of view. It may be that Bush is in the hands of the media and the people who control the media rather than they are in his control. Does puppet on string seem applicable ??? Scott - Original Message - From: Busyditch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 3:30 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Disappearing Antiwar Protests This is nothing new.I attended 3 rallies in DC back before we invaded Iraq (we had already been bombing the S**T out of them) Upon returnign home, we saw there was little or no coverage, and even if there was, there were reports of several thousand marchers when if fact the true amount was several hundred thousand. The mainstream media is truly in the hands of the Bush regime, and nobody or no entity is allowed to criticize him, and those that do suffer miserably or get stifled by a biased press. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 1:22 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Fwd: Disappearing Antiwar Protests http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2677 Disappearing Antiwar Protests Media shrug off mass movement against war 9/27/05 Hundreds of thousands of Americans around the country protested the Iraq War on the weekend of September 24-25, with the largest demonstration bringing between 100,000 and 300,000 to Washington, D.C. on Saturday. But if you relied on television for your news, you'd hardly know the protests happened at all. According to the Nexis news database, the only mention on the network newscasts that Saturday came on the NBC Nightly News, where the massive march received all of 87 words. (ABC World News Tonight transcripts were not available for September 24, possibly due to pre-emption by college football.) Cable coverage wasn't much better. CNN, for example, made only passing references to the weekend protests. CNN anchor Aaron Brown offered an interesting explanation (9/24/05): There was a huge 100,000 people in Washington protesting the war in Iraq today, and I sometimes today feel like I've heard from all 100,000 upset that they did not get any coverage, and it's true they didn't get any coverage. Many of them see conspiracy. I assure you there is none, but it's just the national story today and the national conversation today is the hurricane that put millions and millions of people at risk, and it's just kind of an accident of bad timing, and I know that won't satisfy anyone but that's the truth of it. To hear Brown tell it, a 24-hour cable news channel is somehow unable to cover more than one story at a time-- and the national conversation is something that CNN just listens in on, rather than helping to determine through its coverage choices. The following day (9/25/05), the network's Sunday morning shows had an opportunity to at least reflect on the significance of the anti-war movement. With a panel consisting of three New York Times columnists, Tim Russert mentioned the march briefly in one question to Maureen Dowd-- which ended up being about how the antiwar movement might affect Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential chances. On ABC's This Week, host George Stephanopoulos observed, We've seen polls across the board suggesting that we're bogged down now in Iraq and now you have this growing protest movement. Do you believe that we're reaching a tipping point in public opinion? That question was put to pro-war Republican Sen. John McCain, who responded by inaccurately claiming: Most polls I see, that most Americans believe still that we have to stay the course I certainly understand the dissatisfaction of the American people but I think most of them still want to stay the course and we have to. A recent CBS/New York Times poll (9/9-13/05) found 52 percent support for leaving Iraq as soon as possible. A similar Gallup poll (9/16-18) found that 33 percent of the public want some troops withdrawn, with another 30 percent wanting all the troops withdrawn. Only 34 percent wanted to maintain or increase troop levels--positions that could be described as wanting to stay the course. Stephanopoulos, however, failed to challenge McCain's false claim. (An L.A. Times recap of the protests--9/25/05-- included a misleading reference to the Gallup poll, reporting that while the war is seen as a mistake by 59 percent of respondents, There remains, however, widespread disagreement about the best solution. The same poll showed that 30 percent of Americans favored a total troop withdrawal, though 26 percent favored maintaining the current level. By leaving out the 33 percent of those polled who wanted to decrease troop numbers, the paper gave a misleading impression of closely divided opinion.) On Fox News Sunday (9/25/05), panelist Juan Williams was rebuked by his colleagues when he noted that public opinion had turned
