Re: [Biofuel] which diesel additive do u use to increase flow in coldweather
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_winter.html with links at the bottom. Luc - Original Message - From: Koray Cilingir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 5:31 AM Subject: [Biofuel] which diesel additive do u use to increase flow in coldweather hi please tell me which diesel additive do u use to increase cold flow of biodiesel ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] which diesel additive do u use to increase flow in coldweather
Thanks Luc, Thanks from me too. This will help for winterizing in the Sierras. I especially like the paragraph: We tested Wintron X30, and yes, it really does work (see photograph below). Biodieselers in the US tested Arctic Express apparently with good results. We have no independent reports on Lubrizol's product, but Lubrizol is a reputable company and their biodiesel antigel is likely to be effective. Be aware that these antigel agents contain small amounts of toxic compounds, usually toluene, and must be handled with care.. http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_winter.html --- Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day Koray; http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_winter.html with links at the bottom. Luc - Original Message - From: Koray Cilingir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 5:31 AM Subject: [Biofuel] which diesel additive do u use to increase flow in coldweather hi please tell me which diesel additive do u use to increase cold flow of biodiesel ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] which diesel additive do u use to increase flow in coldweather
I can't remember which of the Canada or USA researchers it was, but one of the main biodiesel research guys wrote a report a few years ago that found that winter diesel (#1, basically kerosene, +additives that vary depending on where it's being sent to, AFAIK) was as effective as the additives available at that time, at least the ones they tested. That may not be the case now - probably the additives are better and more specialized, but it might be worth trying just that - certainly it's affordable and available if you live in a cold climate region...just go to the pump and add some to the biodiesel, or make up a few samples at different treat rates and put them in the freezer for a few days (labelled!) Back in early days of more basic SVO kits, and even now if you have thick SVO/WVO and no tank heater, 10-20% diesel made a big difference once once it got below -10C (where our Canola WVO tended to start to get very much a thick gravy consistency) ...you might be able to use less, with your B100 ...or look at adding a tank heater, inline heater, filter heater (start with an inline heater, such as our VEG-Therm, ahead of the filter)... then you might not need to add anything. or less of it. Regards, Edward Beggs B.E.S. M.Sc. Neoteric Biofuels Inc. http://www.biofuels.ca Support Engineers Without Borders. See: www.ewb.ca On Jan 12, 2005, at 10:20 AM, Phillip Wolfe wrote: Thanks Luc, Thanks from me too. This will help for winterizing in the Sierras. I especially like the paragraph: We tested Wintron X30, and yes, it really does work (see photograph below). Biodieselers in the US tested Arctic Express apparently with good results. We have no independent reports on Lubrizol's product, but Lubrizol is a reputable company and their biodiesel antigel is likely to be effective. Be aware that these antigel agents contain small amounts of toxic compounds, usually toluene, and must be handled with care.. http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_winter.html --- Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day Koray; http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_winter.html with links at the bottom. Luc - Original Message - From: Koray Cilingir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 5:31 AM Subject: [Biofuel] which diesel additive do u use to increase flow in coldweather hi please tell me which diesel additive do u use to increase cold flow of biodiesel ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] which diesel additive do u use to increase flow in coldweather
Ed, If recall in my youth in the Agricultural areas of the SJ Valley and parts of Sierras; the addition of keronse mixed with traditional diesel to make winter diesel was...or is a common practice. --- Neoteric Biofuels Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't remember which of the Canada or USA researchers it was, but one of the main biodiesel research guys wrote a report a few years ago that found that winter diesel (#1, basically kerosene, +additives that vary depending on where it's being sent to, AFAIK) was as effective as the additives available at that time, at least the ones they tested. That may not be the case now - probably the additives are better and more specialized, but it might be worth trying just that - certainly it's affordable and available if you live in a cold climate region...just go to the pump and add some to the biodiesel, or make up a few samples at different treat rates and put them in the freezer for a few days (labelled!) Back in early days of more basic SVO kits, and even now if you have thick SVO/WVO and no tank heater, 10-20% diesel made a big difference once once it got below -10C (where our Canola WVO tended to start to get very much a thick gravy consistency) ...you might be able to use less, with your B100 ...or look at adding a tank heater, inline heater, filter heater (start with an inline heater, such as our VEG-Therm, ahead of the filter)... then you might not need to add anything. or less of it. Regards, Edward Beggs B.E.S. M.Sc. Neoteric Biofuels Inc. http://www.biofuels.ca Support Engineers Without Borders. See: www.ewb.ca On Jan 12, 2005, at 10:20 AM, Phillip Wolfe wrote: Thanks Luc, Thanks from me too. This will help for winterizing in the Sierras. I especially like the paragraph: We tested Wintron X30, and yes, it really does work (see photograph below). Biodieselers in the US tested Arctic Express apparently with good results. We have no independent reports on Lubrizol's product, but Lubrizol is a reputable company and their biodiesel antigel is likely to be effective. Be aware that these antigel agents contain small amounts of toxic compounds, usually toluene, and must be handled with care.. http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_winter.html --- Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day Koray; http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_winter.html with links at the bottom. Luc - Original Message - From: Koray Cilingir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 5:31 AM Subject: [Biofuel] which diesel additive do u use to increase flow in coldweather hi please tell me which diesel additive do u use to increase cold flow of biodiesel ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
