Re: [biofuel] Cornburning Stoves

2001-12-05 Thread MH

Its been written:
 
 Corn is 9,000BTU @ pound
 
 MH wrote:
 
  CORN   1,000  BTU/POUND   (56,000 BTU per bushel @ 56 pounds)
  WOOD   8,600  BTU/POUND
 
   Where did you get this from? The page you show here doesn't even have 
 corn
 on it. It has corn cobs and stalks, not shelled corn.

I'm not sure where in the Worldww I read that! 
My apologies for providing misleading information.  

I see that 9k/BTU/pound is listed 
http://www.amaize-ingenergy.com/index.html  
but calculating the chart I get a range of 7500-8500  
Anyway, it spurred my interest in Shelled Corn and found some additional info
that could be of interest. 

Penn State College of Agricultural Sciences - ENERGY ALTERNATIVES 
http://energy.cas.psu.edu  covers several topics.  e.g.  EnergySelector --  is
a user-friendly decision-aide to easily compare the heating values available
from any two energy sources.Heat Energy Content of Shelled Corn -- 
based on bomb calorimeter studies - about 6800,  wood - 8200.  
They discount moisture level-BTU mathematically.  

University of Minnesota - Burning Shelled Corn to Produce Heat Energy 
http://www.bae.umn.edu/extens/energy/cornburners.html  offer a formula for
calculating fuel costsi.e.  Cost per million Btu = 
[$2.00/bu divide by (392,000 Btu/bu x 0.65 efficiency)] x 1,000,000  
and mentions burner design and corn ash challenges.   

Ontario - Ministry of Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs 
- Burning Shelled Corn as a Heating Fuel 
http://www.gov.on.ca/OMAFRA/english/crops/facts/93-023.htm  
HEAT ENERGY OF ON-FARM FUEL SOURCES  and  
HEAT CONTENT  HEATING EFFICIENCY OF VARIOUS FUELS  

Article;  Backwoods Home Magazine - I heat my house by burning corn 
by Judith W. Monroe  http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles/monroe42.html  

a farmer living in a small village 10 miles south of Munich in Bavaria.  
Heat with Wheat  http://come.to/heat-with-wheat  
Photos of  Attempt - Does grain burn?

  Bio - Units and Conversion Factors
  http://www.geog.umd.edu/homepage/courses/jboberg/units.htm
  Typical Energy Content of Fossil and Biomass Fuels
  Solid, Liquid and Gas

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Re: [biofuel] Cornburning Stoves

2001-12-01 Thread steve spence

unfortunately it does not.

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 You should be able to use biodiesel in a kerosene heater, maybe without
any
 real modification.

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  the kernals poping before they burn would drive
  anyone crazy. i sure would know if there is a stove or plans
  out there to burn WVO.
  LOUIS
 
 
 
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  Subject: [biofuel] Cornburning Stoves
 
 
   Hello,
  I've seen some ads and heard some stuff about
   stoves to heat ones home that burn common kernals
   of field corn.  Does anyone know about these?  Do
   they do a good job?  Which brands are good?
  
   Steve
  
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Re: [biofuel] Cornburning Stoves

2001-11-30 Thread Keith Addison

Mark E. Wishart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You should be able to use biodiesel in a kerosene heater, maybe without any
real modification.

This was discussed a month or so back, check the archives - seems 
it's not quite so simple.

Best

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  the kernals poping before they burn would drive
  anyone crazy. i sure would know if there is a stove or plans
  out there to burn WVO.
  LOUIS
 
 
 
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  Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 1:08 PM
  Subject: [biofuel] Cornburning Stoves
 
 
   Hello,
  I've seen some ads and heard some stuff about
   stoves to heat ones home that burn common kernals
   of field corn.  Does anyone know about these?  Do
   they do a good job?  Which brands are good?
  
   Steve
  
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Re: [biofuel] Cornburning Stoves

2001-11-28 Thread dturnmd

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Re: [biofuel] Cornburning Stoves

2001-11-28 Thread Keith Addison

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Sigh...

Please don't respond, I've emailed him/her offlist, as usual. I don't 
suppose it'll ever stop happening. :-(

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Re: [biofuel] Cornburning Stoves

2001-11-27 Thread steve spence

if he did more field standing instead of classroom standing he might be
relevant ;-)

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 Where's  Dr. Pimental stand on this one? (I know , I know out standing in
 his field...).

 ;-)

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 www.biofuels.ca









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  Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 21:24:01 -0700
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  Subject: Re: [biofuel] Cornburning Stoves
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Dana Linscott 
  Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 15:09
  Subject: Re: [biofuel] Cornburning Stoves
 
 
  These are not uncommon in corn growing areas of the
  American Midwest where firewood is more expensive than
  bulk corn from local farmers. A few farmers in our
  area use them for corn they grow themselves since it
  costs less to burn their own corn than sell it and buy
  other fuel.
 
 
  I can't help but wonder at the energy potental of corn -vs- wood of a
given
  type.
 
  Does anyone know the BTU value for a ton of corn? How does that break
down
  for cost?
 
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Re: [biofuel] Cornburning Stoves

2001-11-27 Thread MH

CORN   1,000  BTU/POUND   (56,000 BTU per bushel @ 56 pounds) 
WOOD   8,600  BTU/POUND 

Bio - Units and Conversion Factors
http://www.geog.umd.edu/homepage/courses/jboberg/units.htm
Typical Energy Content of Fossil and Biomass Fuels 
Solid, Liquid and Gas 


  These are not uncommon in corn growing areas of the
  American Midwest where firewood is more expensive than
  bulk corn from local farmers. A few farmers in our
  area use them for corn they grow themselves since it
  costs less to burn their own corn than sell it and buy
  other fuel.
 
 
 I can't help but wonder at the energy potental of corn -vs- wood of a given
 type.
 
 Does anyone know the BTU value for a ton of corn? How does that break down
 for cost?

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Re: [biofuel] Cornburning Stoves

2001-11-27 Thread MH

I'm of the understanding that pressurized wood pellets are approximately twice
as dense.  So the energy content would be approx. twice as much ???  And require
about half as much storage volume then cord wood.  Corrections are welcomed.

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Re: [biofuel] Cornburning Stoves

2001-11-27 Thread Harmon Seaver

http://burncorn.com/CountrysideCostAnalysis.php

Greg and April wrote:


 I can't help but wonder at the energy potental of corn -vs- wood of a given
 type.

 Does anyone know the BTU value for a ton of corn? How does that break down
 for cost?


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Re: [biofuel] Cornburning Stoves

2001-11-27 Thread Harmon Seaver

Corn is 9,000BTU @ pound


MH wrote:

 CORN   1,000  BTU/POUND   (56,000 BTU per bushel @ 56 pounds)
 WOOD   8,600  BTU/POUND

  Where did you get this from? The page you show here doesn't even have corn
on it. It has corn cobs and stalks, not shelled corn.



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Re: [biofuel] Cornburning Stoves

2001-11-26 Thread yew

I've seen some ads and heard some 
stuff about stoves to heat ones 
home that burn common kernals of 
field corn.  Does anyone know about 
these?  Do they do a good job?  Which
brands are good?

I've heard of stoves that burn corn *cobs*, but not kernels.

Brina


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Re: [biofuel] Cornburning Stoves

2001-11-26 Thread Dana Linscott

These are not uncommon in corn growing areas of the
American Midwest where firewood is more expensive than
bulk corn from local farmers. A few farmers in our
area use them for corn they grow themselves since it
costs less to burn their own corn than sell it and buy
other fuel.

The stoves are similar to wood pellet stoves in design
though they have a little different crucible since
corn tends to burn hotter than wood pellets. There is
no popping of the corn as it is feed corn not pop
corn and is dried down to a low moisture content.

Sorry I can't recommend a brand.

Dana Linscott
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Re: [biofuel] Cornburning Stoves

2001-11-26 Thread Louie Pelletier

the kernals poping before they burn would drive
anyone crazy. i sure would know if there is a stove or plans
out there to burn WVO.
LOUIS



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Subject: [biofuel] Cornburning Stoves


 Hello,
I've seen some ads and heard some stuff about
 stoves to heat ones home that burn common kernals
 of field corn.  Does anyone know about these?  Do
 they do a good job?  Which brands are good?

 Steve

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RE: [biofuel] Cornburning Stoves

2001-11-26 Thread Greg Yohn

They are available! The stoves are similar to pellet stoves! They burn dried
field corn kernels.

Greg
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  Hello,
 I've seen some ads and heard some stuff about
  stoves to heat ones home that burn common kernals
  of field corn.  Does anyone know about these?  Do
  they do a good job?  Which brands are good?

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Re: [biofuel] Cornburning Stoves

2001-11-26 Thread Ken Pond

Take a look through these two sites.
http://www.cornburner.com/
http://www.farmshow.com/

Steve W wrote:

 Hello,
I've seen some ads and heard some stuff about
 stoves to heat ones home that burn common kernals
 of field corn.  Does anyone know about these?  Do
 they do a good job?  Which brands are good?

 Steve

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Re: [biofuel] Cornburning Stoves

2001-11-26 Thread Harmon Seaver

  Or try http://www.cornstove.com/

  And no, the corn doesn't pop, it just burns, and is a whole lot
cheaper heat than anything else available in the US today, at least any
fuel that you pay money for.


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Re: [biofuel] Cornburning Stoves

2001-11-26 Thread steve spence

at http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm there is info on
wvo, wheat and corn burners.

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 the kernals poping before they burn would drive
 anyone crazy. i sure would know if there is a stove or plans
 out there to burn WVO.
 LOUIS



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  Hello,
 I've seen some ads and heard some stuff about
  stoves to heat ones home that burn common kernals
  of field corn.  Does anyone know about these?  Do
  they do a good job?  Which brands are good?
 
  Steve
 
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Re: [biofuel] Cornburning Stoves

2001-11-26 Thread Greg and April


- Original Message -
From: Dana Linscott 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 15:09
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Cornburning Stoves


 These are not uncommon in corn growing areas of the
 American Midwest where firewood is more expensive than
 bulk corn from local farmers. A few farmers in our
 area use them for corn they grow themselves since it
 costs less to burn their own corn than sell it and buy
 other fuel.


I can't help but wonder at the energy potental of corn -vs- wood of a given
type.

Does anyone know the BTU value for a ton of corn? How does that break down
for cost?

Greg H.


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Re: [biofuel] Cornburning Stoves

2001-11-26 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc.

Where's  Dr. Pimental stand on this one? (I know , I know out standing in
his field...).

;-)

Edward Beggs
www.biofuels.ca









 From: Greg and April [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 21:24:01 -0700
 To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [biofuel] Cornburning Stoves
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Dana Linscott 
 Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 15:09
 Subject: Re: [biofuel] Cornburning Stoves
 
 
 These are not uncommon in corn growing areas of the
 American Midwest where firewood is more expensive than
 bulk corn from local farmers. A few farmers in our
 area use them for corn they grow themselves since it
 costs less to burn their own corn than sell it and buy
 other fuel.
 
 
 I can't help but wonder at the energy potental of corn -vs- wood of a given
 type.
 
 Does anyone know the BTU value for a ton of corn? How does that break down
 for cost?
 
 Greg H.
 
 
 
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