Re: [biofuel] Drum Modification
In a message dated 14/01/03 01:28:32 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, I am trying to find a reliable way to install a 3/4 copper valve in the side of a 55 gallon drum in order to drain off settled biodiesel to go into a wash tank (leaving the settled out gunk at the bottom). Does anyoned have a good technique or know of suppliers for the necessary parts? Thanks. Jack Can you use standard domestic plastic pipe fittings? Cheap to replace if it goes off Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Drum Modification
A plastic tank adapter would work great too. All you would have to do is drill a hole in the drum with a hole saw. Terry Wilhelm The Revenoor Co INC www.revenoor.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:In a message dated 14/01/03 01:28:32 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, I am trying to find a reliable way to install a 3/4 copper valve in the side of a 55 gallon drum in order to drain off settled biodiesel to go into a wash tank (leaving the settled out gunk at the bottom). Does anyoned have a good technique or know of suppliers for the necessary parts? Thanks. Jack Can you use standard domestic plastic pipe fittings? Cheap to replace if it goes off Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT var lrec_target=_top;var lrec_URL = new Array();lrec_URL[1] = http://rd.yahoo.com/M=229021.2846012.4200517.1925585/D=egroupweb/S=1705083269:HM/A=1406395/R=0/id=flashurl/*http://shop.store.yahoo.com/cgi-bin/clink?gloss2+shopping:dmad/M=229021.2846012.4200517.1925585/D=egroupweb/S=1705083269:HM/A=1406395/R=1/1042906167+http://us.rmi.yahoo.com/rmi/http://www.gloss.com/rmi-framed-url/http://www.gloss.com/entry.point%3Fentry=1117666%26source=YHOO_PRS:L13:N:P9:1117666:702:GLS ;var link=javascript:LRECopenWindow(1);var lrec_flashfile = 'http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/gl/gloss/gpx_ncf_slc_freeship.swf?clickTAG='+link+'';var lrec_altURL = http://rd.yahoo.com/M=229021.2846012.4200517.1925585/D=egroupweb/S=1705083269:HM/A=1406395/R=2/id=altimgurl/*http://shop.store.yahoo.com/cgi-bin/clink?gloss2+shopping:dmad/M=229021.2846012.4200517.1925585/D=egroupweb/S=1705083269:HM/A=1406395/R=3/1042906167+http://us.rmi.yahoo.com/rmi/http://www.gloss.com/rmi-framed-url/http://www.gloss.com/entry.point%3Fentry=1117666%26source=YHOO_PRS:L13:N:P9:1117666:702:GLS ;var lrec_altimg = http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/gl/gloss/gpx_ncs_slc_freeship.jpg;var lrec_width = 300;var lrec_height = 250; Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: re [biofuel] drum modification
drilling and tapping works well. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 1.0 Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 11:39 AM Subject: re [biofuel] drum modification In a message dated 14/01/03 01:28:32 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, I am trying to find a reliable way to install a 3/4 copper valve in the side of a 55 gallon drum in order to drain off settled biodiesel to go into a wash tank (leaving the settled out gunk at the bottom). Does anyoned have a good technique or know of suppliers for the necessary parts? Thanks. Jack Can you use standard domestic plastic pipe fittings? Cheap to replace if it goes off Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: re [biofuel] drum modification
You'd need a boss welded into the side of the drum. There is no way you could tap a hole in the 1.2mm steel of a 45gallon drum. You would drill the hole, braze or weld the boss into the side, then tap the boss. Hugh Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Drum Modification
I've built some good processors and wash tanks by using a closed-head drum turned bungs-side-down, and screwing all kinds of fittings into the threads of the bungs (the other side of the drum, what used to be the bottom,can be cut open completely, partially, or just punctured for plumbing fittings... also open-head drum lids (gasketed drum lids) can fit into the opened up end of a closed head drum, so that without brazing a thing, you can have fittings on the bottom of the tank and in the lid of the same (some open head drums have two bungs in the lids, and most have no bungs, but it's really easy to thread something into there and make it work, if you have access to hole saws and the like). (AAARGGGH now I really gotta get off my lazy butt and take pictures of this stuff and the methoxide mixers for journeytoforever, they'been asking me to post them for months!). There's some photos of one of the designs on the veggieavenger.com website, in the photos of the class I taught in October. (it's in the events section of the website or something). In the photos of us making a tank with pipes inside of it, the design is for a wash tank- you can't get a completely clean separation in a flat-bottom tank, but you can accomplish a lot with flat-bottom drums if you can pull fuel from a higher point than the total bottom. My friend Sean Parks came up with this one. We went around calling it the Sean-style settling tank for a while but it got cumbersome- I've renamed it a Dual-Outlet Settling Tank (one internal pipe picks up fuel from a point higher than the other outlet). Otherwise if you want to add fittings to a drum, braze them. It';s easier to braze to the flat side than the curved side. Mechanical fittings (ie stuff that screws together into a hole, and seals with a gasket) are available but not all that great for biodiesel- the stuff finds a way to leak through just about anything. mark a wash tank (leaving the settled out gunk at the bottom). Does anyoned have a good technique or know of suppliers for the necessary parts? Thanks. Jack Jack Kenworthy Sustainable Systems Director The Cape Eleuthera Island School 242-359-7625 ph. 242-359-7697 fax www.islandschool.org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlhttp://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Drum Modification
jack try brazing on a brass fitting - Original Message - From: Jack Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 12:31 PM Subject: [biofuel] Drum Modification Hello, I am trying to find a reliable way to install a 3/4 copper valve in the side of a 55 gallon drum in order to drain off settled biodiesel to go into a wash tank (leaving the settled out gunk at the bottom). Does anyoned have a good technique or know of suppliers for the necessary parts? Thanks. Jack Jack Kenworthy Sustainable Systems Director The Cape Eleuthera Island School 242-359-7625 ph. 242-359-7697 fax www.islandschool.org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Drum Modification
Hello, I am trying to find a reliable way to install a 3/4 copper valve in the side of a 55 gallon drum in order to drain off settled biodiesel to go into a wash tank (leaving the settled out gunk at the bottom). Does anyoned have a good technique or know of suppliers for the necessary parts? Thanks. If you have access to a welder or weldor, the easiest way will be to have them weld on a 3/4 bung, which is a small round piece of steel that is threaded, kind of like a fat washer with threads in the middle. This piece is welded over the hole cut in the tank (the beauty is the hole can be very irregular, for example, cut with a torch). Bungs are available from any hydraulic/farm type place, and if you showed up on my shop's doorstep with this job in mind, you'd walk away about 10$ poorer. The bung and valve should cost you no less than 15$. Jean-Leon Morin Ottawa, Ontario Canada Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Drum Modification
If you have access to a welder or weldor, the easiest way will be to have them weld on a 3/4 bung, which is a small round piece of steel that is threaded, kind of like a fat washer with threads in the middle... And I now see that someone else has responded with way better info than I did. (crawling under my rock) J-L Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Drum Modification
I've built some good processors and wash tanks by using a closed-head drum turned bungs-side-down, and screwing all kinds of fittings into the threads of the bungs (the other side of the drum, what used to be the bottom,can be cut open completely, partially, or just punctured for plumbing fittings... also open-head drum lids (gasketed drum lids) can fit into the opened up end of a closed head drum, so that without brazing a thing, you can have fittings on the bottom of the tank and in the lid of the same (some open head drums have two bungs in the lids, and most have no bungs, but it's really easy to thread something into there and make it work, if you have access to hole saws and the like). (AAARGGGH now I really gotta get off my lazy butt and take pictures of this stuff and the methoxide mixers for journeytoforever, they'been asking me to post them for months!). Right Mark, you get off your lazy butt! LOL! I don't think anybody gets the impression that you're lazy! Anyways, that'd be good news... asking for months, yes, but I did say No hurry, whenever you're ready. And indeed, no hurry, rather get it right and in good orderly fashion... I think a lot of folks will be interested in your approach to processors. Best Keith There's some photos of one of the designs on the veggieavenger.com website, in the photos of the class I taught in October. (it's in the events section of the website or something). In the photos of us making a tank with pipes inside of it, the design is for a wash tank- you can't get a completely clean separation in a flat-bottom tank, but you can accomplish a lot with flat-bottom drums if you can pull fuel from a higher point than the total bottom. My friend Sean Parks came up with this one. We went around calling it the Sean-style settling tank for a while but it got cumbersome- I've renamed it a Dual-Outlet Settling Tank (one internal pipe picks up fuel from a point higher than the other outlet). Otherwise if you want to add fittings to a drum, braze them. It';s easier to braze to the flat side than the curved side. Mechanical fittings (ie stuff that screws together into a hole, and seals with a gasket) are available but not all that great for biodiesel- the stuff finds a way to leak through just about anything. mark a wash tank (leaving the settled out gunk at the bottom). Does anyoned have a good technique or know of suppliers for the necessary parts? Thanks. Jack Jack Kenworthy Sustainable Systems Director The Cape Eleuthera Island School 242-359-7625 ph. 242-359-7697 fax www.islandschool.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Drum Modification
If you have access to a welder or weldor, the easiest way will be to have them weld on a 3/4 bung, which is a small round piece of steel that is threaded, kind of like a fat washer with threads in the middle... And I now see that someone else has responded with way better info than I did. (crawling under my rock) J-L :-) No-o Jean-Leon, please crawl out again! The more the merrier, it's all of value. Regards Keith Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
