Re: [biofuel] Small Engine Fuel
Rabbits are a bit troublesome - you have to keep them penned, though a moveable ark works quite well. Geese are the best lawnmowers, solar-powered too g, but not silent - but if you can put up with a team of highly opinionated lawnmowers that, furthermore, mar the pristine beauty or your apparently Philishaved lawn with lumps of goose-poop underfoot, then you can hardly do better, while certain other benefits emerge round Thanksgiving/Christmas. Lawns themselves are the trouble though, as Robert infers, highly unnatural things, and users of HUGE amounts of pesticides, chemical fertilizers and, yes, fossil fuels. In nature grass just doesn't exist on its own like this, it's only a part of a composite pasture creature consisting of grass (actually grasses, legumes and deep-rooting herbs), a very rich topsoil micro- and macro-life, and several kinds of grazing animals. Take the animals away and the whole things starts to revert to scrub and forest. A power-mower is a poor substitute for a grazing animal, and hence all the poisons etc needed to maintain the thing. Let it grow and get some geese and a couple of Dexters. But the neighbours, yes... and the by-laws. :-( Best Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have seen that Husquavarna from Sweeden have developed a solar power robot mower that operates from electric, is toatally silent and operated within defined cutting zone. Other than that rabbits will do an excellent job of nibbling grass and genertate excellent manure, and feeding, best regards, dD We have a rabbit, but he's an indoor pet. The straw and waste from his pen go into the compost heap, so he's doing his part . . . I went to Sears today with my in-laws. They have several different varieties of powered mowers, but only two push mowers. Most suburban lawns are really too small for a powered mower. robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.1stbooks.com/bookview/9782 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/CNxFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] Small Engine Fuel
My goose removed all the dandelions from my lawn. She acted like they were chocolate! :) Kirk -Original Message- From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 26, 2003 3:10 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Small Engine Fuel Rabbits are a bit troublesome - you have to keep them penned, though a moveable ark works quite well. Geese are the best lawnmowers, solar-powered too g, but not silent - but if you can put up with a team of highly opinionated lawnmowers that, furthermore, mar the pristine beauty or your apparently Philishaved lawn with lumps of goose-poop underfoot, then you can hardly do better, while certain other benefits emerge round Thanksgiving/Christmas. Lawns themselves are the trouble though, as Robert infers, highly unnatural things, and users of HUGE amounts of pesticides, chemical fertilizers and, yes, fossil fuels. In nature grass just doesn't exist on its own like this, it's only a part of a composite pasture creature consisting of grass (actually grasses, legumes and deep-rooting herbs), a very rich topsoil micro- and macro-life, and several kinds of grazing animals. Take the animals away and the whole things starts to revert to scrub and forest. A power-mower is a poor substitute for a grazing animal, and hence all the poisons etc needed to maintain the thing. Let it grow and get some geese and a couple of Dexters. But the neighbours, yes... and the by-laws. :-( Best Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have seen that Husquavarna from Sweeden have developed a solar power robot mower that operates from electric, is toatally silent and operated within defined cutting zone. Other than that rabbits will do an excellent job of nibbling grass and genertate excellent manure, and feeding, best regards, dD We have a rabbit, but he's an indoor pet. The straw and waste from his pen go into the compost heap, so he's doing his part . . . I went to Sears today with my in-laws. They have several different varieties of powered mowers, but only two push mowers. Most suburban lawns are really too small for a powered mower. robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.1stbooks.com/bookview/9782 Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release Date: 5/19/2003 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/CNxFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Small Engine Fuel
biofuel@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hi Robert Luis Rabello, I have seen that Husquavarna from Sweeden have developed a solar power robot mower that operates from electric, is toatally silent and operated within defined cutting zone. Other than that rabbits will do an excellent job of nibbling grass and genertate excellent manure, and feeding, best regards, dD robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.1stbooks.com/bookview/9782 Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/CNxFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Small Engine Fuel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have seen that Husquavarna from Sweeden have developed a solar power robot mower that operates from electric, is toatally silent and operated within defined cutting zone. Other than that rabbits will do an excellent job of nibbling grass and genertate excellent manure, and feeding, best regards, dD We have a rabbit, but he's an indoor pet. The straw and waste from his pen go into the compost heap, so he's doing his part . . . I went to Sears today with my in-laws. They have several different varieties of powered mowers, but only two push mowers. Most suburban lawns are really too small for a powered mower. robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.1stbooks.com/bookview/9782 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/CNxFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Small Engine Fuel
If I remember, right, these robot mowers are smaller than many gas engine powered mowers. I saw a few held up one at a time, and the largest was about the size of the torso of the man that was holding it. Greg H - Original Message - From: robert luis rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 20:59 Subject: Re: [biofuel] Small Engine Fuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have seen that Husquavarna from Sweeden have developed a solar power robot mower that operates from electric, is toatally silent and operated within defined cutting zone. Other than that rabbits will do an excellent job of nibbling grass and genertate excellent manure, and feeding, best regards, dD We have a rabbit, but he's an indoor pet. The straw and waste from his pen go into the compost heap, so he's doing his part . . . I went to Sears today with my in-laws. They have several different varieties of powered mowers, but only two push mowers. Most suburban lawns are really too small for a powered mower. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/CNxFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Small Engine Fuel
There are electric and muscle powered equivalents for almost all the yard work buzz toys. I have compiled a bit of a list at http://www.econogics.com/kickgcan.htm I also have a distinct lack of grass on my suburban plot. However, I keep the electric tractor around anyway for snowblowing, landscaping and rototilling the garden. Great sodbuster, and sure beats the gasoline walkbehinds, with which I also have lots of experience. The battery-tractor with blade does better than gas ATV with blade due to extra weight in the vehicle - less wheel spinning. Picture of tractor at http://www.econogics.com/ev/snowjob.jpg Short run times make suburban yard applications ideal for battery electrics. I am also a proponent of corded electric machines like mowers for those applications where the muscle-powered machines (e.g. reel mowers) are not practical. This year we broke sod on the city land between our property and the road that we are required to maintain. Planting beets and carrots and barrier rows of radish and onion. Waiting to see if bylaw enforcement takes issue. The only rules we could find are that we are to keep down the noxious weeds, no mention that grass is required. We put in small flower beds last year, but the blooms kept getting picked. This year's addition to the main vegetable garden is drip watering hoses and direct connections to the rain barrels. Should beat the heck out of lugging buckets or hand-watering by hose. The drip hoses are supposedly made from recycled tires. The rainbarrels are modified pickle barrels. Grass is slowly giving way to clover and a local ivy-runner type plant I have not yet identified. Darryl McMahon robert luis rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm in the throes of landscaping. . . Living in a subdivision requires me to maintain an artificial environment all around my house. Personally, I don't like grass, but it's very hard to get away with NOT planting a lawn in suburbia, and I think there's something primeval in our desire to plant a few trees in a yard surround by grass. (Deep within our souls, we all love the savannah!) So I have grass in the front of my house, and in a patch on both sides suitable for my boys to play upon, but that's where my strict conformity to the building / landscaping guidelines ends. I've taken a slightly different approach than my neighbors, figuring that if I HAVE to install a certain number of plants in my yard in order to keep the land developer and my neighbors happy, I should select plants that provide food (for my family), shelter for birds (who will share the food, too!) privacy and shade during the summer. My neighbors shake their heads, watching me attack the landscape with a mattock and shovel. I've argued with my wife over my selection of birch and fir trees (which grow wild here) in addition to the apple, pear and plum trees I've planted. (Oh, the controversy!) I want a grape arbor. I want blueberries. Blackberries would be nice, too--as long as we don't let them take over. . . All of this will be in addition to the vegetable garden in the sunny, northwest corner of our lot. This afternoon I had to mow my very lumpy lawn. All of my neighbors have gas powered lawn mowers and gas powered weed trimmers. I own a push mower with reel blades and a battery powered weed trimmer. I let the grass clippings fall back onto the lawn and dutifully compost any additional green material taken from my property--which isn't much at this point, I will have to do some importing to get things going. The ground here is heavy with clay that packs very hard when it's dry and clings to my boots like sucking leeches when it's wet. We have NO topsoil to speak of, and I know it will take some time for us to build up organic activity in the dirt around our house. I hoping my fruit trees survive the ordeal. . . Meanwhile, my neighbors, with their noisome and terribly loud, gas powered equipment, collect all of their grass clippings and dump them on a nearby, empty lot. I can't figure out how they keep their lawns alive, because their soil cannot be any better than mine. They must spend a fortune on fertilizer and weed killer to keep their yards looking green! Right now my arms ache from pushing the mower, shoveling and attacking the poor excuse for dirt around here with my mattock--but it's all good for my heart, right? I wonder how much gasoline gets consumed by all the equipment that replaces human labor in the wealthy parts of the world. I can't help but wonder how much healthier we'd be if the simple act of cutting grass was done with a sharp reel mower, rather than the ubiquitous, stinking, peace-shattering Briggs and Stratton powered engines at work all around me. If we have to use machines like that, how hard would it be to power them with ethanol? These things aren't computer controlled and fuel injected,
