Re: Re[2]: [Biofuel] Martin's Job

2004-12-17 Thread Doug Younker


- Original Message - 
From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 6:30 AM
Subject: Re[2]: [Biofuel] Martin's Job


:
: Us aside, I don't think it's fair to avoid donating to worthy causes,
: especially small ones, which might not have 501(c) tax status or
: whatever it's called, on the grounds that that would be giving money
: to the government, or at least not if that's your only reason for not
: doing so. If they're doing worthwhile work then they're worth
: supporting, promising them something conditional in the future
: doesn't help them, especially not the small ones, they're usually
: cash-strapped, and often the most effective.

Hi,
I have to agree Keith, but I didn't respond to Kim's post because it may
have had come off as a personal attack. At the donation level suggested in
the original post letting personal attitudes toward something totally
unrelated to a worthy cause, get in the way of supporting that cause is
counter productive.
Doug, N0LKK
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Re: Re[2]: [Biofuel] Martin's Job

2004-12-15 Thread Legal Eagle


Send me the adress to my email posted here. I don't particularly care if my 
name is attached to any check-up-on-you list. Of interest would be Martin's 
nationality so I know what currency to use. (I think it's US but I am not 
sure) I already know Keith is in Japan so that is a no brainer. bank drafts 
are easy to come by and easy to cash, so let me know.

Luc
- Original Message - 
From: Gustl Steiner-Zehender [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: B. Nostrand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 12:22 PM
Subject: Re[2]: [Biofuel] Martin's Job



Hallo Folks,

Wednesday, 15 December, 2004, 09:31:17, you wrote:

BN i HAVE HAD some bad experiences with paypal and refuse to use them
BN as well.
BN rbury

PayPal  has  acquired  a  bad  reputation  among  many and from what I
understand for good reason.

Also,  I  don't know how I managed not to include Keith and Journey To
Forever  in  the  mail.   Chalk  it  down  to lack of sleep and health
concerns at the moment.

I believe there are some two thousand odd members of the list which is
why I proposed a dollar a person but there are not two thousand people
posting.  As  in  the  rest of life some of us will apparently have to
carry  the  others  but  it  is  something  to  which  we  ought to be
accustomed.  There  have  been  many carrying me on and off for a long
time,  Keith  and  Martin not the least among them. It is high time we
lived up to what I at least consider our responsibilities.

As  there  has been no response yet from Martin or Keith I am assuming
this  is  OK  with  them  so anyone wanting to contribute to this very
worthy  effort  could  just  drop  me an email at my own address and I
would  respond  with  my mailing address. I will also keep a list with
the name, email and amount of each donor and give it to both Keith and
Martin  so  if  anyone wants to check up on me they could email either
Keith  or  Martin and would know that their donation had been properly
distributed  and  none kept by me or misappropriated in any way.  And,
if   it   would   be   possible  US  currency would be appreciated.  I
believe  that  would  be  the  easiest and most efficient path, but no
donation would be denied.

If  the  list  is  willing we can proceed.  I am hoping that there are
more  than  half  a dozen or so of us willing to help financially with
the  truly  worthy  effort.  It is such a small thing but with so much
potential.

Happy Happy,

Gustl
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without signposts.
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gesehen oder wenigstens nicht erkannt werden.

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hear the music.
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His little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and of love.
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Re: Re[2]: [Biofuel] Martin's Job

2004-12-15 Thread Legal Eagle


Empire has nothing to say about it. Don't make it out to JTF make it out to 
Keith personally (with his approval of course ) :-)

Luc
- Original Message - 
From: Kim  Garth Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 12:49 PM
Subject: Re[2]: [Biofuel] Martin's Job



Greetings,

I am not sure how far along Keith is, but I do know he is in the process 
of becoming a charitable organization that can accept donations on a tax 
free basis.  If anyone was thinking of giving heartily, perhaps we might 
be able to give a little more if we just wait until we can have the tax 
advantage.  I am not sure if Keith could channel the money to Martin or 
not, but I have a problem with giving money to the government and prefer 
to donate in this manner.


Bright Blessings,
Kim

At 11:22 AM 12/15/2004, you wrote:


Also,  I  don't know how I managed not to include Keith and Journey To
Forever  in  the  mail.   Chalk  it  down  to lack of sleep and health
concerns at the moment.

I believe there are some two thousand odd members of the list which is
why I proposed a dollar a person but there are not two thousand people
posting.  As  in  the  rest of life some of us will apparently have to
carry  the  others  but  it  is  something  to  which  we  ought to be
accustomed.  There  have  been  many carrying me on and off for a long
time,  Keith  and  Martin not the least among them. It is high time we
lived up to what I at least consider our responsibilities.

As  there  has been no response yet from Martin or Keith I am assuming
this  is  OK  with  them  so anyone wanting to contribute to this very
worthy  effort  could  just  drop  me an email at my own address and I
would  respond  with  my mailing address. I will also keep a list with
the name, email and amount of each donor and give it to both Keith and
Martin  so  if  anyone wants to check up on me they could email either
Keith  or  Martin and would know that their donation had been properly
distributed  and  none kept by me or misappropriated in any way.  And,
if   it   would   be   possible  US  currency would be appreciated.  I
believe  that  would  be  the  easiest and most efficient path, but no
donation would be denied.

If  the  list  is  willing we can proceed.  I am hoping that there are
more  than  half  a dozen or so of us willing to help financially with
the  truly  worthy  effort.  It is such a small thing but with so much
potential.

Happy Happy,

Gustl
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Re: Re[2]: [Biofuel] Martin's Job

2004-12-15 Thread Kim Garth Travis


the tax deduction.  So sorry I explained it wrong.
Bright Blessings,
Kim

At 12:09 PM 12/15/2004, you wrote:
Why wait ? You can send someone a personal gift any time you want and the 
Empire has nothing to say about it. Don't make it out to JTF make it out 
to Keith personally (with his approval of course ) :-)

Luc
- Original Message - From: Kim  Garth Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 12:49 PM
Subject: Re[2]: [Biofuel] Martin's Job



Greetings,

I am not sure how far along Keith is, but I do know he is in the process 
of becoming a charitable organization that can accept donations on a tax 
free basis.  If anyone was thinking of giving heartily, perhaps we might 
be able to give a little more if we just wait until we can have the tax 
advantage.  I am not sure if Keith could channel the money to Martin or 
not, but I have a problem with giving money to the government and prefer 
to donate in this manner.


Bright Blessings,
Kim

At 11:22 AM 12/15/2004, you wrote:


Also,  I  don't know how I managed not to include Keith and Journey To
Forever  in  the  mail.   Chalk  it  down  to lack of sleep and health
concerns at the moment.

I believe there are some two thousand odd members of the list which is
why I proposed a dollar a person but there are not two thousand people
posting.  As  in  the  rest of life some of us will apparently have to
carry  the  others  but  it  is  something  to  which  we  ought to be
accustomed.  There  have  been  many carrying me on and off for a long
time,  Keith  and  Martin not the least among them. It is high time we
lived up to what I at least consider our responsibilities.

As  there  has been no response yet from Martin or Keith I am assuming
this  is  OK  with  them  so anyone wanting to contribute to this very
worthy  effort  could  just  drop  me an email at my own address and I
would  respond  with  my mailing address. I will also keep a list with
the name, email and amount of each donor and give it to both Keith and
Martin  so  if  anyone wants to check up on me they could email either
Keith  or  Martin and would know that their donation had been properly
distributed  and  none kept by me or misappropriated in any way.  And,
if   it   would   be   possible  US  currency would be appreciated.  I
believe  that  would  be  the  easiest and most efficient path, but no
donation would be denied.

If  the  list  is  willing we can proceed.  I am hoping that there are
more  than  half  a dozen or so of us willing to help financially with
the  truly  worthy  effort.  It is such a small thing but with so much
potential.

Happy Happy,

Gustl
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