[svg-developers] Re: A full SVG 1.1 spec editor
As for SVG to PNG converters, Apache Batik does support SVG fonts. If you show me the file with which you've tested it, I could probably find the error. --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, caio ariede [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm searching any editor that support full SVG 1.1 spec, including SVG Fonts and/or glyphs. I tried Inkscape and Sodipodi, but both didn't opened glyphs. If anyone knows any editor that support this, or a SVG-to-PNG converter. I tried some converters (rsvg, apache batik, but seems doesn't support glyphs too). I'm googlin' here, but without results yet. Thanks in advance. -- Caio Ariede http://caioariede.com/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] SVG downlad bar
Hello, I am fairly new to SVG, and I have big projects... At first, I need to do a download bar, which would display the downloading status of large files, and start automatically an animation or sound. Thanks to give me the right direction to start (SVG 1.2, I guess, because SVG 1.1 missed some basic functions) - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [svg-developers] Re: other things you might not have the time for
Cool Jake, Thanks, It's way faster than the recursive thing that my student Eric has been working on. Though the quasi-recursive thing (using SMIL) that I have is fast enough, but not very tree like yet. David From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jake Beard Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 9:58 PM To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Re: other things you might not have the time for David, something that might be of interest to your project: http://www.stumbleupon.com/toolbar/#topic=Animationurl=http%25253A%2525 2F%25252Fwww.gskinner.com%25252Fblog%25252Fassets%25252FInteractiveElm.h tml A really beautiful example of animated tree budding, unfortunately implemented in flash. Jake On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 5:49 AM, ddailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:ddailey%40zoominternet.net wrote: Yes, perfect! thanks David - Original Message - From: Andreas Neumann To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com mailto:svg-developers%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 4:27 AM Subject: [svg-developers] Re: other things you might not have the time for Hi David, not sure I fully understand your requirement. Are you looking for a progressive drawing of a path geometry? If yes, you can do this by animating the stroke-dash of a path. Here are 2 examples: http://www.carto.net/papers/svg/samples/animated_bustrack.shtml and http://pilat.free.fr/english/animer/france.htm Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com mailto:svg-developers%40yahoogroups.com , ddailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will hope Frank finds the time to do the things he's talking about -- they all sound quite worthwhile. I, on the other hand, have been playing a bit more: http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/followpath6.svg You'll need SMIL support and JavaScript in your SVG to see it, but it's only 100 lines of code so it can be comprehended with a large glance. In the long run, a student and I are interested in animating the growth of a tree, but I wanted to get a simple context sensitive theory of budding. I've slowed down the budding so the brambles don't surround the castle too quickly. It might be nice to use a Lindenmeyer system (sort of a Chomskian grammar in parallel) to generate the budding, but for now it's just branch -- branch + branch, and there is no biophysics (other than edge avoidance). Any clever ideas on how to reveal the shape of a Bezier curve gradually -- namely to draw it as it is being traversed by an animation? cheers David [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: A full SVG 1.1 spec editor
Yes. After downloading Batik from SVN it works fine. Thanks. Caio Ariede http://caioariede.com/ On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Frank Bruder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for SVG to PNG converters, Apache Batik does support SVG fonts. If you show me the file with which you've tested it, I could probably find the error. --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com svg-developers%40yahoogroups.com, caio ariede [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm searching any editor that support full SVG 1.1 spec, including SVG Fonts and/or glyphs. I tried Inkscape and Sodipodi, but both didn't opened glyphs. If anyone knows any editor that support this, or a SVG-to-PNG converter. I tried some converters (rsvg, apache batik, but seems doesn't support glyphs too). I'm googlin' here, but without results yet. Thanks in advance. -- Caio Ariede http://caioariede.com/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Generate *non-overlapping* circles?
Hey everyone! I have the need to generate non-overlapping circles, and I'm kind of dreading writing the code that will do it from scratch. In fact, it is even a little more complicated than that. I want to be able to take hierarchical information and generate a sort of random-looking web of nodes. Like this (imagine the middle circle is root): http://img4.pictiger.com/655/17374113.jpg I *think* I can write code that will generate something like this. I just know that it is going to take significant effort, so if anyone here has some ideas or previous experience doing something like this, or anything that might help me do it -- I'd really appreciate it. Right now, my plan is to do the actual graphics generation with dojo, unless someone can give me a better alternative... -Steve - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] google map into svg
is possible load a javascript object as google map into a svg document ? so i can see a google map into a svg graphic. Thanks - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] google map into svg
Lively Kernel does this: http://research.sun.com/projects/lively/index.xhtml Under More Complex Sample Widgets. (note that to get it to work in FF3, you need to go to use firebug to adjust the height on the main svg tag from 100% to 2000px, or however tall you want the main canvas area to be, because height=100% on the svg tag is broken in FF ) Just taking a look at the code, it doesn't look like they're doing what I expected them to do, which is to embed a map using the foreignObject tag. Instead, it looks like they've really gone and built a client which uses the Google Maps API with SVG controls! Very impressive. Jake On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 8:10 AM, radice_simone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is possible load a javascript object as google map into a svg document ? so i can see a google map into a svg graphic. Thanks - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Generate *non-overlapping* circles?
Hi Steve, Looking at the picture you've provided suggests to me the following approach: a) generate a Voronoi diagram [1] (I think this can be done quickly, i.e. in less than O(n^2) ) on a random set of n points; though I've never actually done it -- maybe somebody knows of a link to an SVG that does that already??; b) while generating, keep track of the edges (since these provide the incidence matrix of the graph); c) within each polygon, inscribe a circle -- inscribing a circle inside a convex polygon should be fairly easy it seems Whether the Voronoi diagrams would be representative of the set of all convex tessellations of the plane relevant to your purposes or not, I'm not sure. Alternative pseudo-random tessellations could be considered with domino tilings, rhombic tilings, or other nonperiodic tilings. That's probably how I'd try to do it. Alternative ways of approaching it would be to generate quasi 2-Euclidean graphs (as in [2]) (in which adjacency of nodes is based on a threshold of their 2-D Euclidean positions, followed by elimination of crossing lines); followed by expansion of circles until the radius equals half the distance of the nearest neighbor. Harary, I think, has a theorem of some sort establishing the number of distinct triangulations of a planar region -- one such triangulation could be induced upon a plane filled with n random points and from there the geometric dual would be something like a Voronoi diagram, it seems. holler when you get it done, since it'd be fun to see David [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voronoi_diagram [2] http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/graphs30.svg - Original Message - From: mercurysbane To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 2:37 PM Subject: [svg-developers] Generate *non-overlapping* circles? Hey everyone! I have the need to generate non-overlapping circles, and I'm kind of dreading writing the code that will do it from scratch. In fact, it is even a little more complicated than that. I want to be able to take hierarchical information and generate a sort of random-looking web of nodes. Like this (imagine the middle circle is root): http://img4.pictiger.com/655/17374113.jpg I *think* I can write code that will generate something like this. I just know that it is going to take significant effort, so if anyone here has some ideas or previous experience doing something like this, or anything that might help me do it -- I'd really appreciate it. Right now, my plan is to do the actual graphics generation with dojo, unless someone can give me a better alternative... -Steve [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: google map into svg
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jake Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lively Kernel does this: http://research.sun.com/projects/lively/index.xhtml Under More Complex Sample Widgets. (note that to get it to work in FF3, you need to go to use firebug to adjust the height on the main svg tag from 100% to 2000px, or however tall you want the main canvas area to be, because height=100% on the svg tag is broken in FF ) I don't believe svg height=100% is broken in firefox. The svg height is 100% but the div size is the size of its contents so you have a circular problem to calculate this. We therefore use a fallback size. This is exactly what http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/visudet.html#inline-replaced-width says we should do doesn't it? If you think differently please explain, ideally with references. Best regards Robert - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Generate *non-overlapping* circles?
David. You're awesome. Thanks for these excellent ideas and resources. Finally -- a use for my undergrad mathematics degree... ;) Time to knock off the rust. I'll definitely send out the link when I have it working (or alternatively, when I have something to show). -Steve --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, ddailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Steve, Looking at the picture you've provided suggests to me the following approach: a) generate a Voronoi diagram [1] (I think this can be done quickly, i.e. in less than O(n^2) ) on a random set of n points; though I've never actually done it -- maybe somebody knows of a link to an SVG that does that already??; b) while generating, keep track of the edges (since these provide the incidence matrix of the graph); c) within each polygon, inscribe a circle -- inscribing a circle inside a convex polygon should be fairly easy it seems Whether the Voronoi diagrams would be representative of the set of all convex tessellations of the plane relevant to your purposes or not, I'm not sure. Alternative pseudo-random tessellations could be considered with domino tilings, rhombic tilings, or other nonperiodic tilings. That's probably how I'd try to do it. Alternative ways of approaching it would be to generate quasi 2- Euclidean graphs (as in [2]) (in which adjacency of nodes is based on a threshold of their 2-D Euclidean positions, followed by elimination of crossing lines); followed by expansion of circles until the radius equals half the distance of the nearest neighbor. Harary, I think, has a theorem of some sort establishing the number of distinct triangulations of a planar region -- one such triangulation could be induced upon a plane filled with n random points and from there the geometric dual would be something like a Voronoi diagram, it seems. holler when you get it done, since it'd be fun to see David [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voronoi_diagram [2] http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/graphs30.svg - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: google map into svg
Hi Robert, You might be right, I don't have a complete understanding of the spec. It does work in webkit, though, and this might be the source of my confusion. Would I be correct in thinking, then, that something like the following would be the correct way to specify an svg element that takes up the full width and height of the page? div style=width:100%;height:100%; svg width=100% height=100%/svg /div In order to better understand this, I've been playing around with width/height=100% just on divs, without inner svg elements, and have been getting somewhat confusing results: http://msdl.cs.mcgill.ca/people/jake/tests/svgHeight100Percent_3.html http://msdl.cs.mcgill.ca/people/jake/tests/svgHeight100Percent_3.xhtml Why does the one page served up as html show a fullscreen div, while the other xhtml document shows nothing? Are width/height attributes on divs handled so differently between the HTML and XHTML specs? Results are consistent across FF, Opera and Webkit. I'd appreciate it if you could help me understand what's going on here, and let me know what you think is the correct way to specify an SVG element that takes up the whole viewport width and height. Thanks, Jake On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Robert Longson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jake Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lively Kernel does this: http://research.sun.com/projects/lively/index.xhtml Under More Complex Sample Widgets. (note that to get it to work in FF3, you need to go to use firebug to adjust the height on the main svg tag from 100% to 2000px, or however tall you want the main canvas area to be, because height=100% on the svg tag is broken in FF ) I don't believe svg height=100% is broken in firefox. The svg height is 100% but the div size is the size of its contents so you have a circular problem to calculate this. We therefore use a fallback size. This is exactly what http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/visudet.html#inline-replaced-width says we should do doesn't it? If you think differently please explain, ideally with references. Best regards Robert - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: google map into svg
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jake Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Robert, You might be right, I don't have a complete understanding of the spec. It does work in webkit, though, and this might be the source of my confusion. Would I be correct in thinking, then, that something like the following would be the correct way to specify an svg element that takes up the full width and height of the page? div style=width:100%;height:100%; svg width=100% height=100%/svg /div http://www.dv-schmelzer.de/faq/Programmierung/CSS/100_percent_height/100percheight.html In order to better understand this, I've been playing around with width/height=100% just on divs, without inner svg elements, and have been getting somewhat confusing results: http://msdl.cs.mcgill.ca/people/jake/tests/svgHeight100Percent_3.html http://msdl.cs.mcgill.ca/people/jake/tests/svgHeight100Percent_3.xhtml Why does the one page served up as html show a fullscreen div, while the other xhtml document shows nothing? Are width/height attributes on divs handled so differently between the HTML and XHTML specs? No, however you are comparing html quirks mode with xhtml which is always strict mode. Try giving your html a proper doctype and you will see it works the same as xhtml. Best regards Robert - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
