Re: [SWCollect] Today's finds
On Sun, 4 Nov 2001, Jim Leonard wrote: Hugh Falk wrote: FYI, of the 3 popular ones you mention, M.U.L.E. is possibly the most significant since it is from the original group of EA's first games. Archon (also from the original batch) ranks right up there with M.U.L.E. as an all-time classic, but it is very very common. Not for PC, in my experience! I found a ton of C64 and Atari Archons before I finally finally found a PC one. While we're talking about Archon, the PC version thereof, does the original version work on a modern computer or not? My disk refuses to boot on a 486, and I don't have an IBM PC/XT to test it on. -- Stephen -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
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True...I was talkign about the title in general...not for a specific platform. However, the common Atari 800 version is the first one produced. The rest came later. Hugh -Original Message- From: Jim Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 1:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Today's finds Hugh Falk wrote: FYI, of the 3 popular ones you mention, M.U.L.E. is possibly the most significant since it is from the original group of EA's first games. Archon (also from the original batch) ranks right up there with M.U.L.E. as an all-time classic, but it is very very common. Not for PC, in my experience! I found a ton of C64 and Atari Archons before I finally finally found a PC one. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
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Lee K. Seitz wrote: Jim Leonard boldly stated: Starflight was also re-released later in their box format, with added support for EGA. The non-Slash version of this is extremely rare (the Slash version is common). This is the version to get since the older Starflight would only support 16 colors if you had Composite CGA or Tandy/PCjr as the game was originally developed before EGA existed. Yes, I'm aware of this as I have this problem. I found a patch or emulator or something (I forget now) that lets you run Starflight in something resembling MCGA, but it's not perfect. And it doesn't really matter since Starflight doesn't handle my 700 MHz machine well. 8) I'm also missing the code wheel, but found a Windows program that performs as one. Thanks to Tommage, I have a real honest EGA version -- he let me copy it. I can email it to you if you like, just let me know. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
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Radio Baseball was a totally text based statistical baseball game (no graphics -- hence radio). This was certainly a different approach for EA in 1986. Also, as far as I know, it was only made for IBM and compatibles. It is a very in-depth game, lots of stats, trades, drafts, injuries, etc. Yes Dragon's Lair (also one of the harder to find Flat Boxes, actually) was sold with both games as one. It is part of EA's Amazing Software line. This is basically a budget line for them. They would distribute successful games from Europe in the USA. There are 4 of these games, which all came in yellow flat boxes that say Amazing Software at the top (Dragon's Lair, Sanxion, Dan Dare, Delta Patrol). I don't know that I'm missing any flat boxes, but if I am, it is probably in this line since I don't have a list of the titles published for it. Hugh -Original Message- From: Karl Kuras [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 10:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Today's finds My curiosity is peaked now... seems to be a trend... what was Radio Baseball (never heard of it). And while looking through your galleyr of flattops, I noticed tha thte C64 version of Dragon's Lair included both DL and Escape from Singhe's Castle. Where they only sold together here in the states? I know in Europe they were marketed seperately and with a considerable delay between the two. Karl Kuras Visit Our House the online comic strip! http://ourhouse.trantornator.com - Original Message - From: Hugh Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 10:13 PM Subject: RE: [SWCollect] Today's finds Now you've got me started, how are you going to stop me? :-)... Robot Rascals is a tougher one to find...but then again some people might not consider it a flat box...I do. It is what I call the Fat Box variation (here's a fatbox pic: http://www.classicgaming.com/gotcha/fatbox.jpg). It has the same dimensions, but is the thickness of about 3 standard flat boxes. Anyone interested can read more on my flat box page (http://www.classicgaming.com/gotcha/eaflats.htm). One of the hardest flat boxes to find for me was another Fat Box -- Radio Baseball (http://www.classicgaming.com/gotcha/gallery/image71.htm). It was one of the last flat box games (1986) and wasn't very popular. It took me 2 years of searching eBay every week to find one, which I won. I think it went for $5. Like I said it wasn't popular. It might be the rarest, but I still don't think it would fetch much on eBay. Funny though, I've had about 5 people contact me searching the web for that game (and running into my site). They always want a copy very badly, so it seems to have a bit of a cult following. Another rare one (I've only seen one...the one I have, but I don't know how rare it actually is) is Word Flyer (http://www.classicgaming.com/gotcha/gallery/image111.htm). This is one of the few Edutainment flat boxes. D-Bug (http://www.classicgaming.com/gotcha/gallery/image21.htm) is another. (I don't consider the very common Music Construction Set to be Edutainment. I don't classify it as a game at all). Other rarer ones are: The Last Gladiator, Return to Atlantis (Amiga title), Touchdown Football (EA's first football game, pre-Madden), Ferrari Formula One (another Amiga title). None of these are too rare, though probably harder to find than MULE, Wasteland or Starflight (very popular games). It's just that the latter 3 are harder to buy since they are highly sought after. Pictures of all can be found here: http://www.classicgaming.com/gotcha/gallery/index.htm Hugh -Original Message- From: C.E. Forman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 8:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Today's finds Congrats on the finds, Lee. Hugh, out of curiosity, which EA games are the hardest to come by? I'd always thought of M.U.L.E. as rare, just from my observations of everyone seeming to want it, no one seeming to have it. Robot Rascals is another, I believe they sold a very limited number of copies? Also there's a flipbox package for Wasteland that, from my personal experience, is far more common than the flat version. - Original Message - From: Hugh Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 3:42 PM Subject: RE: [SWCollect] Today's finds Nice finds...Wasteland will usually go on eBay for over $20 (although I've seen it go for less occasionally). I've also seen it go for over $50. That an M.U.L.E. are probably the most sought after EA Flats (although not the most difficult to find by any means). Hugh -Original Message- From: Lee K. Seitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 4:32 PM To: Software Collecting Subject: [SWCollect] Today's finds I'm only hitting the thrift stores very infrequently
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Good to know...thanks. -Original Message- From: Jim Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 12:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Today's finds Hugh Falk wrote: Ferrari Formula One (another Amiga title). Actually, this was ported to PC as well. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
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Hugh Falk boldly stated: Other rarer ones are: The Last Gladiator, Return to Atlantis (Amiga title), Touchdown Football (EA's first football game, pre-Madden), Ferrari Formula One (another Amiga title). None of these are too rare, though probably harder to find than MULE, Wasteland or Starflight (very popular games). It's just that the latter 3 are harder to buy since they are highly sought after. Wow, and I've found both Wasteland (Apple II) and Starflight (PC) in thrift stores for less than $5. Just need to find MULE, I guess. 8) Does anyone have a complete list of which games came in which type of packages? For example, I know Skyfox and Wasteland come in bifolds, Starflight comes in a trifold, and Music Construction Set comes in both a bifold and record sleeve (I think). If this was listed on the GOTCHA pages, I missed it. How many games released in a bi- or trifold and then re-released in a record sleeve? -- Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/ Wanted: Vintage Pac-M*n necktie (The asterisk is to keep from mucking up people's Usenet search results. Replace it with an a, if you didn't know.) -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
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Jim Leonard boldly stated: It's okay; Norton Utilities was released as late as version 8 for DOS that I believe still works on any machine. Either is fine. PCTools 6 coes with a backup program -- THAT is useful because it formats and writes to floppies at the same time which saves a ton of time. Perfect for backing up a propriety-ish MS-DOS system like Tandy, ATT, etc. (Formatting a track lays down zeros, but this program lays down the actual backup data when it formats -- cool trick.) Okay, then let me ask you this question: is it worth getting PC Tools 6 if I already have Copy II PC 6 and Norton Utilities 6? (Of course, I don't think I've verified that Copy II PC works and only have 5.25 HD disks for Norton.) -- Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/ Wanted: Vintage Pac-M*n necktie (The asterisk is to keep from mucking up people's Usenet search results. Replace it with an a, if you didn't know.) -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
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Well I took the liberty of scanning in the Software Classics pages of my EA 87-88 catalog. You can find it here: http://www.classicgaming.com/gotcha/gallery/ea%20software%20classics.jpg In theory, all of these should be available in a record sleeve. However, I'm sure that's not the case. I've never seen M.U.L.E. in a record sleeve and many of the others, but I guess it's possible. The only ones I've seen I mentioned in the previous e-mail. Still this scan is a good basis for investigating it for those who care. I'd be interested in knowing if anyone else has any other record sleeves that I didn't mention. By the way, looking through the EA catalog, I had forgotten how many companies EA had distributed for!: Software Toolworks, Interstel, Datsoft, Sierra On-line (yes, they did: King's Quest I, II, III, Black Cauldron, Leisure Suit Larry, Space Quest, Police Quest, etc.), Game Designers' Workshop, Strategic Studies Group, Bethesda Softworks, and more. Hugh -Original Message- From: Hugh Falk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 9:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] Today's finds H...haven't investigated that one. But many games that were popular in a tri or bi were re-released later in the Software Classics line (or simply repackaged in later years). Off the top of my head: One on One, Racing Destruction Set, Music Construction Set, Lords of Conquest and Pinball Construction Set. These are just the ones I have, but I don't specifically look for them since the originals are more desirable to me. FYI, of the 3 popular ones you mention, M.U.L.E. is possibly the most significant since it is from the original group of EA's first games. Archon (also from the original batch) ranks right up there with M.U.L.E. as an all-time classic, but it is very very common. Hugh -Original Message- From: Lee K. Seitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 9:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Today's finds Hugh Falk boldly stated: Other rarer ones are: The Last Gladiator, Return to Atlantis (Amiga title), Touchdown Football (EA's first football game, pre-Madden), Ferrari Formula One (another Amiga title). None of these are too rare, though probably harder to find than MULE, Wasteland or Starflight (very popular games). It's just that the latter 3 are harder to buy since they are highly sought after. Wow, and I've found both Wasteland (Apple II) and Starflight (PC) in thrift stores for less than $5. Just need to find MULE, I guess. 8) Does anyone have a complete list of which games came in which type of packages? For example, I know Skyfox and Wasteland come in bifolds, Starflight comes in a trifold, and Music Construction Set comes in both a bifold and record sleeve (I think). If this was listed on the GOTCHA pages, I missed it. How many games released in a bi- or trifold and then re-released in a record sleeve? -- Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/ Wanted: Vintage Pac-M*n necktie (The asterisk is to keep from mucking up people's Usenet search results. Replace it with an a, if you didn't know.) -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
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Does anyone have a complete list of which games came in which type of packages? For example, I know Skyfox and Wasteland come in bifolds, Starflight comes in a trifold, and Music Construction Set comes in both a bifold and record sleeve (I think). If this was listed on the GOTCHA pages, I missed it. How many games released in a bi- or trifold and then re-released in a record sleeve? I've seen Adventure Construction Set and Seven Cities of Gold in the record sleeve. Starflight was released in a flipbox, which I believe was the only package format for Starflight 2. I've also got two versions of Golden Oldies, the one by Software Toolworks, and an earlier version with Software Country as the company name. Same logo, the Amish buggy. Toolworks is the bifolder, Country is similar but with the manual attached to the folder's inside, and the picture of the disk on the cover is gold instead of yellow. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
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Hugh Falk boldly stated: Well I took the liberty of scanning in the Software Classics pages of my EA 87-88 catalog. You can find it here: http://www.classicgaming.com/gotcha/gallery/ea%20software%20classics.jpg In theory, all of these should be available in a record sleeve. However, I'm sure that's not the case. I have a copy of Marbel Madness (for the PC) in a record sleeve. -- Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/ Wanted: Vintage Pac-M*n necktie (The asterisk is to keep from mucking up people's Usenet search results. Replace it with an a, if you didn't know.) -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
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Lee K. Seitz wrote: packages? For example, I know Skyfox and Wasteland come in bifolds, Starflight comes in a trifold, and Music Construction Set comes in both a bifold and record sleeve (I think). If this was listed on the Starflight was also re-released later in their box format, with added support for EGA. The non-Slash version of this is extremely rare (the Slash version is common). This is the version to get since the older Starflight would only support 16 colors if you had Composite CGA or Tandy/PCjr as the game was originally developed before EGA existed. Starfox was also released as a Slash record sleeve. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
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Lee K. Seitz wrote: Okay, then let me ask you this question: is it worth getting PC Tools 6 if I already have Copy II PC 6 and Norton Utilities 6? (Of course, I don't think I've verified that Copy II PC works and only have 5.25 HD disks for Norton.) Copy II PC 6 only copies disks, it's not a general-purpose tool and doesn't come with PC Tools 6. If you already have Norton 6, you only need to get PC Tools 6 if you want a backup program and file manager (which Norton 6 doesn't have). The backup program in PC Tools 6 is pretty sweet -- no need to format the floppies first *and* it does compression *and* it can format the floppies to have about 10% more space if you don't care about making sure the disks are DOS-readable (uses 1 extra sector per track). Don't use Norton 5 -- it had BUGS that, in rare cases, destroyed data. Also: You'll be hard-pressed to get Copy II PC (any version) working on anything faster than 33 MHz. It relied on exact hardware timing, much more granular than any slowodwn program can give you. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
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Hugh Falk wrote: I'm sure that's not the case. I've never seen M.U.L.E. in a record sleeve BTW, I've never seen an IBM PC version of M.U.L.E. -- did one exist? I know that a PCjr version existed because I held the diskette with my own hands (before giving it back -- ARGH). There is a big M.U.L.E. community that is trying to get their hands on a copy of the IBM PC (if it exists) and PCjr version to see how it compares to the Atari original in terms of gameplay, graphics, sound, and features. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
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Nice finds...Wasteland will usually go on eBay for over $20 (although I've seen it go for less occasionally). I've also seen it go for over $50. That an M.U.L.E. are probably the most sought after EA Flats (although not the most difficult to find by any means). Hugh -Original Message- From: Lee K. Seitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 4:32 PM To: Software Collecting Subject: [SWCollect] Today's finds I'm only hitting the thrift stores very infrequently these days. I hit one today and found Wasteland and Lords of Conquest (both are EA flats, if you didn't know) for the Apple II. Only cost me $0.50 each! I picked up Wasteland just because of all the talk about it here lately. There was also flats for Bard's Tale and some IIgs golf game, but they were both missing the disks. 8( (Figures, the first strictly IIgs game I see since getting one, and there's no disks.) There was also a barely (if at all) used copy of PC Tools Deluxe version 6. I see from eBay that it's not worth anything, but would it come in handy for problems I might have with an older PC? When and if I ever get any older PCs set up, that is. -- Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/ Wanted: Vintage Pac-M*n necktie (The asterisk is to keep from mucking up people's Usenet search results. Replace it with an a, if you didn't know.) -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
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Lee K. Seitz wrote: There was also a barely (if at all) used copy of PC Tools Deluxe version 6. I see from eBay that it's not worth anything, but would it come in handy for problems I might have with an older PC? When and if I ever get any older PCs set up, that is. It's okay; Norton Utilities was released as late as version 8 for DOS that I believe still works on any machine. Either is fine. PCTools 6 coes with a backup program -- THAT is useful because it formats and writes to floppies at the same time which saves a ton of time. Perfect for backing up a propriety-ish MS-DOS system like Tandy, ATT, etc. (Formatting a track lays down zeros, but this program lays down the actual backup data when it formats -- cool trick.) -- http://www.MobyGames.com/ The world's most comprehensive gaming database project. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
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Congrats on the finds, Lee. Hugh, out of curiosity, which EA games are the hardest to come by? I'd always thought of M.U.L.E. as rare, just from my observations of everyone seeming to want it, no one seeming to have it. Robot Rascals is another, I believe they sold a very limited number of copies? Also there's a flipbox package for Wasteland that, from my personal experience, is far more common than the flat version. - Original Message - From: Hugh Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 3:42 PM Subject: RE: [SWCollect] Today's finds Nice finds...Wasteland will usually go on eBay for over $20 (although I've seen it go for less occasionally). I've also seen it go for over $50. That an M.U.L.E. are probably the most sought after EA Flats (although not the most difficult to find by any means). Hugh -Original Message- From: Lee K. Seitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 4:32 PM To: Software Collecting Subject: [SWCollect] Today's finds I'm only hitting the thrift stores very infrequently these days. I hit one today and found Wasteland and Lords of Conquest (both are EA flats, if you didn't know) for the Apple II. Only cost me $0.50 each! I picked up Wasteland just because of all the talk about it here lately. There was also flats for Bard's Tale and some IIgs golf game, but they were both missing the disks. 8( (Figures, the first strictly IIgs game I see since getting one, and there's no disks.) There was also a barely (if at all) used copy of PC Tools Deluxe version 6. I see from eBay that it's not worth anything, but would it come in handy for problems I might have with an older PC? When and if I ever get any older PCs set up, that is. -- Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/ Wanted: Vintage Pac-M*n necktie (The asterisk is to keep from mucking up people's Usenet search results. Replace it with an a, if you didn't know.) -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
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Now you've got me started, how are you going to stop me? :-)... Robot Rascals is a tougher one to find...but then again some people might not consider it a flat box...I do. It is what I call the Fat Box variation (here's a fatbox pic: http://www.classicgaming.com/gotcha/fatbox.jpg). It has the same dimensions, but is the thickness of about 3 standard flat boxes. Anyone interested can read more on my flat box page (http://www.classicgaming.com/gotcha/eaflats.htm). One of the hardest flat boxes to find for me was another Fat Box -- Radio Baseball (http://www.classicgaming.com/gotcha/gallery/image71.htm). It was one of the last flat box games (1986) and wasn't very popular. It took me 2 years of searching eBay every week to find one, which I won. I think it went for $5. Like I said it wasn't popular. It might be the rarest, but I still don't think it would fetch much on eBay. Funny though, I've had about 5 people contact me searching the web for that game (and running into my site). They always want a copy very badly, so it seems to have a bit of a cult following. Another rare one (I've only seen one...the one I have, but I don't know how rare it actually is) is Word Flyer (http://www.classicgaming.com/gotcha/gallery/image111.htm). This is one of the few Edutainment flat boxes. D-Bug (http://www.classicgaming.com/gotcha/gallery/image21.htm) is another. (I don't consider the very common Music Construction Set to be Edutainment. I don't classify it as a game at all). Other rarer ones are: The Last Gladiator, Return to Atlantis (Amiga title), Touchdown Football (EA's first football game, pre-Madden), Ferrari Formula One (another Amiga title). None of these are too rare, though probably harder to find than MULE, Wasteland or Starflight (very popular games). It's just that the latter 3 are harder to buy since they are highly sought after. Pictures of all can be found here: http://www.classicgaming.com/gotcha/gallery/index.htm Hugh -Original Message- From: C.E. Forman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 8:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Today's finds Congrats on the finds, Lee. Hugh, out of curiosity, which EA games are the hardest to come by? I'd always thought of M.U.L.E. as rare, just from my observations of everyone seeming to want it, no one seeming to have it. Robot Rascals is another, I believe they sold a very limited number of copies? Also there's a flipbox package for Wasteland that, from my personal experience, is far more common than the flat version. - Original Message - From: Hugh Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 3:42 PM Subject: RE: [SWCollect] Today's finds Nice finds...Wasteland will usually go on eBay for over $20 (although I've seen it go for less occasionally). I've also seen it go for over $50. That an M.U.L.E. are probably the most sought after EA Flats (although not the most difficult to find by any means). Hugh -Original Message- From: Lee K. Seitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 4:32 PM To: Software Collecting Subject: [SWCollect] Today's finds I'm only hitting the thrift stores very infrequently these days. I hit one today and found Wasteland and Lords of Conquest (both are EA flats, if you didn't know) for the Apple II. Only cost me $0.50 each! I picked up Wasteland just because of all the talk about it here lately. There was also flats for Bard's Tale and some IIgs golf game, but they were both missing the disks. 8( (Figures, the first strictly IIgs game I see since getting one, and there's no disks.) There was also a barely (if at all) used copy of PC Tools Deluxe version 6. I see from eBay that it's not worth anything, but would it come in handy for problems I might have with an older PC? When and if I ever get any older PCs set up, that is. -- Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/ Wanted: Vintage Pac-M*n necktie (The asterisk is to keep from mucking up people's Usenet search results. Replace it with an a, if you didn't know.) -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
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I just sold a flipbox for C64, and when I bought my Apple II copy I got that version. Seems I'm the only collector who's never seen the flatbox in person. B-) - Original Message - From: Jim Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Today's finds C.E. Forman wrote: Also there's a flipbox package for Wasteland that, from my personal experience, is far more common than the flat version. The flipbox was the PC release only, if memory serves. I don't remember the flipbox for any other platform other than PC, but I could be wrong. Conversely, there was *NEVER* a flatbox release for PC, regardless of what anyone else tells you. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
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Now you've got me started, how are you going to stop me? :-)... Nah, it's interesting. I could stand to brush up on my EA. Robot Rascals is a tougher one to find...but then again some people might not consider it a flat box...I do. It is what I call the Fat Box variation (here's a fatbox pic: http://www.classicgaming.com/gotcha/fatbox.jpg). It has the same dimensions, but is the thickness of about 3 standard flat boxes. Anyone interested can read more on my flat box page (http://www.classicgaming.com/gotcha/eaflats.htm). Yeah, like Bard's Tale II and (as you add) Radio Baseball. I found a Rascals in a used-software store in St. Louis once, sold it or, IIRC, $35. One of the hardest flat boxes to find for me was another Fat Box -- Radio Baseball (http://www.classicgaming.com/gotcha/gallery/image71.htm). It was one of the last flat box games (1986) and wasn't very popular. It took me 2 years of searching eBay every week to find one, which I won. I think it went for $5. Like I said it wasn't popular. It might be the rarest, but I still don't think it would fetch much on eBay. Funny though, I've had about 5 people contact me searching the web for that game (and running into my site). They always want a copy very badly, so it seems to have a bit of a cult following. Didn't I sell you a badly damaged one a couple of years back? Sold one to someone. I found it in TomMage's huge lot of 10,000 games. God, those were the days, driving up early, digging through the hundred or so boxes of stuff. B-) Thanks for the info. I haven't come across any of the others you mention (heard of D-Bug but that's it). Will keep an eye out for them now that I know they're at least uncommon. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
