RE: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
hi ruedi What do you think of reading this mailing list as RSS feed? Good/bad idea? bad. how do you answer to posts? ,-) for me RSS is not a solution for participating in a mailinglist. if you want to have read only access, it may be an alternative... so you still need the mails ;-) I personally would very much favour this approach for the following reasons: - My inbox remains emptier/smaller ironic yes, you're right, we've got about 654'465'108 mails a year on this mailinglist ;-) makes sense ,-) /ironic - No problems with auto replys which flood the whole list well, as i said: mail will remain, so auto reply's will remain ... - Only headers get downloaded automatically. This saves bandwidth. i dont know, but i think bandwidth is not really a problem with that mailinglist, right? we're not (yet) at nanog's size ,) So, dear administrator, why not give it a try? Google, for example, recommends this software on the server side: http://jmason.org/software/scripts/mailman-archive-to-rss.txt i think you're gladly invited to provide an RSS feed for those people which cannot live without it ;-) cheers -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
Salut, On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 09:17:46AM +0200, Glogger Steven wrote: how do you answer to posts? ,-) Someone wants to create a web forum. :-P Tonnerre pgpeQTcbQTPjA.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
'morning Steven list, On Wed, 2006-05-31 at 09:17 +0200, Glogger Steven wrote: how do you answer to posts? ,-) for me RSS is not a solution for participating in a mailinglist. if you want to have read only access, it may be an alternative... so you still need the mails ;-) what about simply replacing the mailing list by a blog? ;-) We could call it swinog 2.0... Then we would have rss as wished by Ruedi, anti-spam and anti-autoresponder captcha protection, etc. But it would require moderators for the news topics... Have a nice (!= cold rainy) day :) Olivier ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
sounds very complicating... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Olivier Mueller Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 9:44 AM To: swinog@swinog.ch Subject: RE: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed 'morning Steven list, On Wed, 2006-05-31 at 09:17 +0200, Glogger Steven wrote: how do you answer to posts? ,-) for me RSS is not a solution for participating in a mailinglist. if you want to have read only access, it may be an alternative... so you still need the mails ;-) what about simply replacing the mailing list by a blog? ;-) We could call it swinog 2.0... Then we would have rss as wished by Ruedi, anti-spam and anti-autoresponder captcha protection, etc. But it would require moderators for the news topics... Have a nice (!= cold rainy) day :) Olivier ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 09:43:39AM +0200, Olivier Mueller wrote: what about simply replacing the mailing list by a blog? ;-) We could call it swinog 2.0... Then we would have rss as wished by Ruedi, anti-spam and anti-autoresponder captcha protection, etc. What about installing UNIX/procmail ? :) ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
so, something like http://www.mrmouse.ch/swinog-rss/ ? ,-) -steven -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hofer Ruedi Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:56 AM To: swinog@swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed Hi all What do you think of reading this mailing list as RSS feed? Good/bad idea? I personally would very much favour this approach for the following reasons: - My inbox remains emptier/smaller - No problems with auto replys which flood the whole list - Only headers get downloaded automatically. This saves bandwidth. RSS clients are found in Firefox, Thunderbird. That means, users have the necessary tools already installed! So, dear administrator, why not give it a try? Google, for example, recommends this software on the server side: http://jmason.org/software/scripts/mailman-archive-to-rss.txt Cheerio Ruedi Hofer, Energy Water Berne ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
well, i think RSS is quite a standard and there are possibilities to provide the swinog mailinglist also as RSS feed.. but anyway, a forum/blog is the wrong way... mail should be still the way of communication for swinog members ,-) -steven -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Xaver Aerni Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 11:23 AM To: swinog@swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed think to install an RSS Client is in different offices is a Problem. If we make a change is a Forum (or new called Blogg) the beter idea. But you must check what is in the future the best way. I think some people uesing Handshields or Mobiles for reading the list... I don't konw if in future are RSS Reader avable for this products. Greetings Xaver - Original Message - From: Tonnerre LOMBARD [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Glogger Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: swinog@swinog.ch Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
AW: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
Steven, you're my hero! /ruedi -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Glogger Steven Gesendet: Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2006 11:22 An: swinog@swinog.ch Betreff: RE: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed so, something like http://www.mrmouse.ch/swinog-rss/ ? ,-) -steven -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hofer Ruedi Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:56 AM To: swinog@swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed Hi all What do you think of reading this mailing list as RSS feed? Good/bad idea? I personally would very much favour this approach for the following reasons: - My inbox remains emptier/smaller - No problems with auto replys which flood the whole list - Only headers get downloaded automatically. This saves bandwidth. RSS clients are found in Firefox, Thunderbird. That means, users have the necessary tools already installed! So, dear administrator, why not give it a try? Google, for example, recommends this software on the server side: http://jmason.org/software/scripts/mailman-archive-to-rss.txt Cheerio Ruedi Hofer, Energy Water Berne ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
On the Wed, May 31, 2006 at 09:38:59AM +0200, Tonnerre LOMBARD blubbered: Hi. On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 09:17:46AM +0200, Glogger Steven wrote: how do you answer to posts? ,-) Someone wants to create a web forum. :-P Replacing a mailinglist by a forum is like putting up an Under Construction sign on your website. And I want a webcounter with that forum! =:-) CU, Venty -- Martin Ebnöther, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.semmel.ch/ Videogamer, Techno Musician, Gourmet, R-Typer, Beer drinker, Lefty Symlinker, Playstationeer, Chilihead, Honda driver, Paranoia GM This space for rent. Call 0800-Semmel-Ads ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
On the Wed, May 31, 2006 at 11:29:30AM +0200, Glogger Steven blubbered: Hoi. well, i think RSS is quite a standard and there are possibilities to provide the swinog mailinglist also as RSS feed.. Whom does the RSS feed serve the most? Surely not the active part of the SwiNOG-Community. Those guys can just as well read the mails and answer to random topics they feel the need to. RSS does not give you that possibility, you're readonly. A perfect excuse to just consume and give nothing back (information that is). I don't like that idea. but anyway, a forum/blog is the wrong way... mail should be still the way of communication for swinog members ,-) Mail is as easy and flexible that it's even readable on a cell phone or an old-fart PDA. Just because some of you have a shiny new Ogo or Mulberry (whatchamacallit?) does not mean everyone wants to replace his Palm IIIx now. Finally, HTML-Mails with Flash and JavaScript do go the same way, so don't even think about coming up with THAT! CU, Venty -- Martin Ebnöther, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.semmel.ch/ Videogamer, Techno Musician, Gourmet, R-Typer, Beer drinker, Lefty Symlinker, Playstationeer, Chilihead, Honda driver, Paranoia GM This space for rent. Call 0800-Semmel-Ads ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
Am 31.05.2006 um 12:28 schrieb Martin Ebnoether: On the Wed, May 31, 2006 at 09:38:59AM +0200, Tonnerre LOMBARD blubbered: Hi. On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 09:17:46AM +0200, Glogger Steven wrote: how do you answer to posts? ,-) Someone wants to create a web forum. :-P Replacing a mailinglist by a forum is like putting up an Under Construction sign on your website. No replace, but there are forums which can act as a gateway to mailing-lists, like Phorum using Phorummail, and yes Phorum can provide an RSS feed. And then there's GMANE of course, which does not only a web-based archive and RSS but also an NNTP gateway, for those wanting to use their nice threading News-Reader with killfiles... Cheers, -daniel ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
Salut, On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 11:29:30AM +0200, Glogger Steven wrote: well, i think RSS is quite a standard and there are possibilities to provide the swinog mailinglist also as RSS feed.. Frankly, ICMP is also a standard. Shall we communicate using icmpchat? ( http://icmpchat.sourceforge.net/ ) Tonnerre pgpBcucE9Q14o.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
Whom does the RSS feed serve the most? Surely not the active part of the SwiNOG-Community. Those guys can just as well read the mails and answer to random topics they feel the need to. ack. RSS does not give you that possibility, you're readonly. A perfect excuse to just consume and give nothing back (information that is). I don't like that idea. full ack. Mail is as easy and flexible that it's even readable on a cell phone or an old-fart PDA. Just because some of you have a shiny new Ogo or Mulberry (whatchamacallit?) does not mean everyone wants to replace his Palm IIIx now. another ack. Finally, HTML-Mails with Flash and JavaScript do go the same way, so don't even think about coming up with THAT! final ack. -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
Hi It needs a Flash interface of course, with live XML updates of the articles. SOAP everywhere. You must see other people typing. And it must blink. It has to be enterprise ready [1], otherwise I'm not going to use it! [1] http://thedailywtf.com/forums/thread/64597.aspx Daniel ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
