Re: [swinog] e-mail blacklists / RBL etc..

2003-09-28 Thread Roger Buchwalder
Hello Steven.

Steven Glogger wrote:

hi all

as you've seen in the news, there are some guys DDoS'ing some e-mail
blackslists. it seems that the spammers are trying to kill all those
services.
so in the last few days/weeks these services went down:
- blackholes.compu.net
- monkeys.com
- osirusoft
etc.
i still use these services:
http://ordb.org/
http://www.spamcop.net/bl/
what do you use additionally? good experiences?
we're using these Servers:

http://www.into.ch/spam.php

i've seen also that abuse.easynet.nl is offering such a service, or
dsbl.org. bl.reynolds.net.au?
You should not use xbl. this server will mark almost every e-mail.

greetings

steven

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Re: [swinog] e-mail blacklists / RBL etc..

2003-09-28 Thread julien mabillard
hi,
i dislike public blacklists and prefer build
personal one.

there is an easy way to do it by storing mails identified
as spam by a filter. then use relaydb[1] to extract suspicious
relay (ip adresses), then simply filter the ip on incoming
tcp:25 connections.

as we are full master of the list, we don't depend on
anyone to update the changes.

we can also do blacklisting as well as whitelisting
for smtp relay.

regards.

On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 02:02:28PM +0200, Roger Buchwalder wrote:
 Hello Steven.
 
 
 Steven Glogger wrote:
 
 hi all
 
 as you've seen in the news, there are some guys DDoS'ing some e-mail
 blackslists. it seems that the spammers are trying to kill all those
 services.
 so in the last few days/weeks these services went down:
 - blackholes.compu.net
 - monkeys.com
 - osirusoft
 etc.
 
 i still use these services:
 http://ordb.org/
 http://www.spamcop.net/bl/
 
 what do you use additionally? good experiences?
 we're using these Servers:
 
 http://www.into.ch/spam.php
 
 i've seen also that abuse.easynet.nl is offering such a service, or
 dsbl.org. bl.reynolds.net.au?
 You should not use xbl. this server will mark almost every e-mail.
 
 
 greetings
 
 steven
 
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Re: [swinog] e-mail blacklists / RBL etc..

2003-09-25 Thread Lukas Beeler
* Steven Glogger [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 what do you use additionally? good experiences?

I do not use any DNS-based IP Blacklists, because i think they do
more harm, then they help. 

Have you ever considered using a Content-Filter like spamassassin
(rules based, bayesian optional), or bogofilter (bayesian only)?
They need much more resources than a single DNS Lookup, though. 

However, they tend to cause much less problems, because mail
never bounces, and just goes to spam folder. (Iam aware that you
can do the same with DNS Blacklists, however thats not an usual
configuration).

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